On 25/02/2020 14:17, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
The only thing you need to understand is that incompetent people lie to
preserve their egos, their status and their jobs.

Ah - your life story again.

He has a brain injury apparently.

On 25/02/2020 17:45, mm0fmf wrote:
On 25/02/2020 14:17, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â*Â* The Natural Philosopher wrote:
The only thing you need to understand is that incompetent people lie to
preserve their egos, their status and their jobs.

Ah - your life story again.

He has a brain injury apparently.

No, I don't.

More lies.

I have at least 4 chronic sub lethal conditions but none of them are
brain injuries


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In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 25/02/2020 17:45, mm0fmf wrote:
On 25/02/2020 14:17, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
The only thing you need to understand is that incompetent people lie to
preserve their egos, their status and their jobs.

Ah - your life story again.

He has a brain injury apparently.

No, I don't.

More lies.

I have at least 4 chronic sub lethal conditions but none of them are
brain injuries

Just a malfunction from birth, then?

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In article 6,
John Not.responding.@dotcom wrote:
The environment Agency claims that dredging rivers does not help to
avoid floods.

I really don't understand - Water does not pile up - unless there are
restrictions to the flow. How often do we see bridges - perhaps with 3
arches - but the two outer ones are slted up or full of debris. This
cannot be acceptable.


I'd love to see some calculations that prove that dredging would have
allowed those rivers to carry all the recent rain away safely.

And if you really did make them that deep, not much use for those who moor
a boat at the bottom of their garden? Or commercial operators on the
river? Others who use them for pleasure, etc?

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On 25/02/2020 11:42, John wrote:
The environment Agency claims that dredging rivers does not help to avoid
floods.

I really don't understand - Water does not pile up - unless there are
restrictions to the flow. How often do we see bridges - perhaps with 3
arches - but the two outer ones are slted up or full of debris. This cannot
be acceptable.

Anyway, whatever the cause the Aire has burst in bank at Snaith and
there's a classic car garage flooded out.

Bill

On 25/02/2020 11:42, John wrote:
The environment Agency claims that dredging rivers does not help to avoid
floods.

I really don't understand - Water does not pile up - unless there are
restrictions to the flow. How often do we see bridges - perhaps with 3
arches - but the two outer ones are slted up or full of debris. This cannot
be acceptable.

The actual claim is that it does not help prevent flooding *under
extreme conditions*. This article, which addresses the same question
after an earlier period of flooding explains the problem in detail:

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ameron-farmers

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One issue is that they attempt to keep water from going down too fast in
case it floods areas that have high priced properties which might be
vulnerable, but if they had not allowed building on flood plains in the
first place they would not be in this mess.
Brian

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"John" Not.responding.@dotcom wrote in message
2.236...
The environment Agency claims that dredging rivers does not help to avoid
floods.

I really don't understand - Water does not pile up - unless there are
restrictions to the flow. How often do we see bridges - perhaps with 3
arches - but the two outer ones are slted up or full of debris. This
cannot
be acceptable.

In message , "Brian Gaff (Sofa 2)"
writes
One issue is that they attempt to keep water from going down too fast in
case it floods areas that have high priced properties which might be
vulnerable, but if they had not allowed building on flood plains in the
first place they would not be in this mess.

Town planners do not like you building on hills unless all other space
has been used.

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On 25/02/2020 11:42, John wrote:
The environment Agency claims that dredging rivers does not help to avoid
floods.

It often just moves the problem by pushing more water in a short time
into another flood plain that has been built on.

Maybe deep concrete lined culverts are the answer but I suspect those
with picturesque riverside properties (during the summer) may object to
this form of river management.


I really don't understand - Water does not pile up - unless there are
restrictions to the flow. How often do we see bridges - perhaps with 3
arches - but the two outer ones are slted up or full of debris. This cannot
be acceptable.



It's often the "flooding" that brings the debris down the river where
often it get trapped under bridges etc. These obstructions are usually
cleared after the high fast flowing water has calmed down.

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