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Printer is a Samsung ML-2240, quite old.
I have for the past 5 years bought compatible cartridges and refilled
when required. Only changed carts when the printing got iffy.
From memory I have never had one stop printing until today.
It was getting low on toner so topped it up reinserted cart and it
wouldnt print.
I can press the button on it and it will print out the printer specs so
the printer itself appears ok.
So, is it likely to be the page count (cartridge chip) that is
preventing it working?
And if I get another cartridge is that likely to cure it by having a new
chip in the cartridge.
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Printer is a Samsung ML-2240, quite old.
I have for the past 5 years bought compatible cartridges and refilled
when required. Only changed carts when the printing got iffy.
From memory I have never had one stop printing until today.
It was getting low on toner so topped it up reinserted cart and it
wouldnt print.
I can press the button on it and it will print out the printer specs so
the printer itself appears ok.
So, is it likely to be the page count (cartridge chip) that is
preventing it working?
And if I get another cartridge is that likely to cure it by having a new
chip in the cartridge.


So, what actually happens when you send a print job from your
computer?
Does the printer spit out blank paper, or does it sit there and do SFA.

Do the print jobs accumulate in the print queue on the computer?
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On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 23:20:03 +0000 (GMT+00:00), Graham. wrote:

So, what actually happens when you send a print job from your
computer?
Does the printer spit out blank paper, or does it sit there and do SFA.

Do the print jobs accumulate in the print queue on the computer?


ie has the lead fallen out or need reseating (either end)?

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On 12/01/2020 23:39, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 23:20:03 +0000 (GMT+00:00), Graham. wrote:

So, what actually happens when you send a print job from your
computer?
Does the printer spit out blank paper, or does it sit there and do SFA.

Do the print jobs accumulate in the print queue on the computer?


ie has the lead fallen out or need reseating (either end)?

When sending a print job it just sits there and the red light (toner 0%)
stays on.
All cables checked. Print jobs just accumulate in queue.
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On 12/01/20 21:33, ss wrote:
Printer is a Samsung ML-2240, quite old.
I have for the past 5 years bought compatible cartridges and refilled
when required. Only changed carts when the printing got iffy.
From memory I have never had one stop printing until today.
It was getting low on toner so topped it up reinserted cart and it
wouldnt print.
I can press the button on it and it will print out the printer specs so
the printer itself appears ok.
So, is it likely to be the page count (cartridge chip) that is
preventing it working?
And if I get another cartridge is that likely to cure it by having a new
chip in the cartridge.


Have you updated the printer driver recently? I have an ML-1640 which
has a chip page counter. I "inactivated" it by short-circuiting a couple
of pins. However, Samsung evidently did a driver update which got round
this. Fortunately, I heard about the update and never installed it.

It might be worth searching online to see if anyone has experienced your
problem and found a way round it (that's how I found out about the chip
short-circuit to reactivate my laser printer).

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On 13/01/2020 08:48, Jeff Layman wrote:
Have you updated the printer driver recently? I have an ML-1640 which
has a chip page counter. I "inactivated" it by short-circuiting a couple
of pins. However, Samsung evidently did a driver update which got round
this. Fortunately, I heard about the update and never installed it.

It might be worth searching online to see if anyone has experienced your
problem and found a way round it (that's how I found out about the chip
short-circuit to reactivate my laser printer).


I am not aware of knowingly updating drivers.
I know of the short circuiting fix but doesnt apply to this model, I
would probably be reluctany to attempt that.

The page it will print off states:
Toner page count/toner 6002/0% toner exhausted.
Initial page count 972
Cartridge capacity: not support
Dot /OPC count : not support/not support
Cartridge s/n : not support
Supplier: toner exhausted.
Manufacturing date: not support
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On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 09:23:37 +0000, ss wrote:

The page it will print off states:
Toner page count/toner 6002/0% toner exhausted.
Initial page count 972
Cartridge capacity: not support
Dot /OPC count : not support/not support
Cartridge s/n : not support
Supplier: toner exhausted.
Manufacturing date: not support


I'd expect to see the cartridge serial number and manufacturing date
even if the page count/capacity is 0%. Is the printer managing to
talk to the chip? Dirty contacts, chip fallen out, dislodged?

As a workaround any options in the printer to ignore "cartridge low"
messages. My HP colour laser has that and when enabled you get a
considerable number of pages before shaking a cartridge doesn't cure
patchy printouts.

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On 13/01/20 09:23, ss wrote:
On 13/01/2020 08:48, Jeff Layman wrote:
Have you updated the printer driver recently? I have an ML-1640 which
has a chip page counter. I "inactivated" it by short-circuiting a couple
of pins. However, Samsung evidently did a driver update which got round
this. Fortunately, I heard about the update and never installed it.

It might be worth searching online to see if anyone has experienced your
problem and found a way round it (that's how I found out about the chip
short-circuit to reactivate my laser printer).


I am not aware of knowingly updating drivers.
I know of the short circuiting fix but doesnt apply to this model, I
would probably be reluctany to attempt that.


I think you'll find it does apply:
https://www.fixyourownprinter.com/forums/laser/72904

Quite a few comments about further fixes, but if you aren't happy
attempting the chip short-circuit it isn't going to help anyway (there
are a few videos on YouTube showing how it is done). Might be worthwhile
checking the printer OS against the list on that page to see whether or
not the fix would work in any case.

The page it will print off states:
Toner page count/toner 6002/0% toner exhausted.
Initial page count 972
Cartridge capacity: not support
Dot /OPC count : not support/not support
Cartridge s/n : not support
Supplier: toner exhausted.
Manufacturing date: not support


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On 13/01/2020 12:26, Jeff Layman wrote:
I think you'll find it does apply:
https://www.fixyourownprinter.com/forums/laser/72904

Quite a few comments about further fixes, but if you aren't happy
attempting the chip short-circuit it isn't going to help anyway (there
are a few videos on YouTube showing how it is done). Might be worthwhile
checking the printer OS against the list on that page to see whether or
not the fix would work in any case.


Mine is os version 1.29.00.83 I am assuming the last 2 digits (83) are
the important nos.

...."Samsung Printer OS type that can not be reset manually:

OS number 1.01.00.82
OS number 1.01.00.83

As a last resort I would attempt to bridge it as by that stage nothing
to lose. As a back up I have £50 of amazon vouchers so may just get a
cheap laser, I only use for b&w text between 400-500 pages a month so
ideally one that is refillable.
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On 13/01/2020 09:05, Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote:
Surely, if it was a page counter it would not self test or it would give you
an error message. Seems daft if it actually prints ok, making one think the
problem is elsewhere?
Brian


I wouldnt think it too difficult for manufacturers to programme it to
print off you need a new cartridge from samsung and will stop you normal
printing until you do.
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On Monday, 13 January 2020 09:27:09 UTC, ss wrote:
On 13/01/2020 09:05, Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote:
Surely, if it was a page counter it would not self test or it would give you
an error message. Seems daft if it actually prints ok, making one think the
problem is elsewhere?
Brian


I wouldnt think it too difficult for manufacturers to programme it to
print off you need a new cartridge from samsung and will stop you normal
printing until you do.


Except it would be a new cartridge from HP nowadays. :-)
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On 13/01/2020 10:41, polygonum_on_google wrote:
On Monday, 13 January 2020 09:27:09 UTC, ss wrote:
On 13/01/2020 09:05, Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote:
Surely, if it was a page counter it would not self test or it would give you
an error message. Seems daft if it actually prints ok, making one think the
problem is elsewhere?
Brian


I wouldnt think it too difficult for manufacturers to programme it to
print off you need a new cartridge from samsung and will stop you normal
printing until you do.


Except it would be a new cartridge from HP nowadays. :-)


Ok had another mess around this morning and it appears when I now
attempt to print there is no documents in the queue! I also connected
the to a laptop and same result exept it states printing finished (never
even started)
I havent messed with anything computer wise and have only
unplugged/plugged in cables and taken the cart in & out a few times.
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On 13/01/2020 10:49, ss wrote:
On 13/01/2020 10:41, polygonum_on_google wrote:
On Monday, 13 January 2020 09:27:09 UTC, ssÂ* wrote:
On 13/01/2020 09:05, Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote:
Surely, if it was a page counter it would not self test or it would
give you
an error message. Seems daft if it actually prints ok, making one
think the
problem is elsewhere?
Â*Â* Brian

I wouldnt think it too difficult for manufacturers to programme it to
print off you need a new cartridge from samsung and will stop you normal
printing until you do.


Except it would be a new cartridge from HP nowadays. :-)


Ok had another mess around this morning and it appears when I now
attempt to print there is no documents in the queue!Â* I also connected
the to a laptop and same result exept it states printing finished (never
even started)
I havent messed with anything computer wise and have only
unplugged/plugged in cables and taken the cart in & out a few times.


Having googled I wemt to services and I cannot see a listing for print
spooler, could this be an issue?
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ss wrote:

it appears when I now attempt to print there is no documents in the queue!


pause the queue before sending a job to print, then resume the queue.
note that pausing documents is da ifferent action from pausing queue


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