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Canon replacement cartridges for my Pixma printer now cost almost as much as
I originally paid for the printer!

There are various cartridge refill kits which I could buy. Are these any
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Canon replacement cartridges for my Pixma printer now cost almost as
much as I originally paid for the printer!


are you surprised?



There are various cartridge refill kits which I could buy. Are these
any good?


Can be.

You risk entirely clogging the ink paths if they aren't though.

Consider a small color laser.



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There are various cartridge refill kits which I could buy. *Are these any
good?

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I've been using refill kits, both black and colour, for about 7 years,
and I've always
been very happy with the results.
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Canon replacement cartridges for my Pixma printer now cost almost as much
as
I originally paid for the printer!

There are various cartridge refill kits which I could buy. Are these any
good?

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I've been using refill kits, both black and colour, for about 7 years,
and I've always
been very happy with the results.

Same here - never had a problem except once when I didn't use the printer
for abour six weeks and the heads dried up. But I believe this could have
happened even if I had been using Canon ink.


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Canon replacement cartridges for my Pixma printer now cost almost as much as
I originally paid for the printer!

There are various cartridge refill kits which I could buy. *Are these any
good?

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I've not had much look with refill kits - a lot of faffing about and
dubious success for the savings involved - and after using mx2 and
then svp for compatible carts, I eventually found these guys up in
Darlington:

http://www.inkredible.co.uk/

They worked out at a quid a cart (for a compatible chipped Canon
MP600) and they've been indistinguishable from the Canon originals, so
personally I wouldn't mess around trying to refill at that price.

I have to say though, I was a bit dubious at first, and what finally
made me take a punt was that my niece is up that way and I thought I
could combine a visit to her with kicking their door down if they
turned out to be conmen!


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Consider a small color laser.


Where the replacement toners cost 4 times the price of the printer.

With my Epson inkjet I have been using third party compatible cartridges
for years without problems. These cost around £1 to £2 each excl.
postage. With prices as low as this why bother with refills?

Original inks and papers may only be important if you want top quality
photos for display or archive. Lesser quality inks may start fading or
changing colour when exposed to sunlight over a (short) period of time.
However, I'm not sure all manufactures of original ink guarantee the
longevity of their product when exposed to sunlight.

A few years back some of the top printer companies used to advertise in
trade papers by including a photo printed with their inks and paper.
These were placed on a notice board at work with half covered up. After
month or so the covering was removed and compared to the part of the
photo exposed to daylight. There was always a marked difference between
the two halves.

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On 01/10/2010 21:18, Michael Chare wrote:
Canon replacement cartridges for my Pixma printer now cost almost as
much as I originally paid for the printer!

There are various cartridge refill kits which I could buy. Are these any
good?


Cheap printers and expensive cartridges are all part of the marketing
strategy because manufacturers can virtually give you the printer and
rely on making their money from ink sales. [Bit like mobile phones, really]

We buy genuine Canon cartridges from the likes of www.7dayshop.com -
where they are a lot cheaper than in the High Street.

They - as do the likes of Lidl from time to time - also sell
'compatible' cartridges, which are a lot cheaper still.

I've never fancied refill kits - I reckon it could get a bit messy!
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On 01/10/2010 21:18, Michael Chare wrote:
Canon replacement cartridges for my Pixma printer now cost almost as
much as I originally paid for the printer!

There are various cartridge refill kits which I could buy. Are these any
good?


Some are good, some are not. Universal kits usually owe more to the
desire of supermarkets to minimise the amount of space required on their
shelves than to the needs of the user.

I recommend a specialist kit, designed to suit a particular cartridge or
a small range of physically similar cartridges. This site sells the
InkTec range, which I fully recommend, and, for the more popular
cartridges, extra ink that can be used with the tools in a kit for even
more savings.

http://www.ink4print.co.uk/

Colin Bignell
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I've not had much look with refill kits - a lot of faffing about and
dubious success for the savings involved - and after using mx2 and
then svp for compatible carts, I eventually found these guys up in
Darlington:

http://www.inkredible.co.uk/


Me too, but got a Dell 1300c instead, and never looked back...
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On 01/10/2010 21:18, Michael Chare wrote:
Canon replacement cartridges for my Pixma printer now cost almost as
much as I originally paid for the printer!

There are various cartridge refill kits which I could buy. Are these any
good?


Some are good, some are not. Universal kits usually owe more to the
desire of supermarkets to minimise the amount of space required on their
shelves than to the needs of the user.

I recommend a specialist kit, designed to suit a particular cartridge or
a small range of physically similar cartridges. This site sells the
InkTec range, which I fully recommend, and, for the more popular
cartridges, extra ink that can be used with the tools in a kit for even
more savings.

http://www.ink4spam.co.uk/

Colin Bignell


Did you really do that?

That is promote your own site as a fake testimonial?
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Canon replacement cartridges for my Pixma printer now cost almost as much as
I originally paid for the printer!

There are various cartridge refill kits which I could buy. Are these any
good?


For a Pixma avoid the very cheap ebay ones. (£5 for 20) but I have had
good results from the ones from large web suppliers priced about 25%
of the originals.
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I've been using refill kits, both black and colour, for about 7 years,
and I've always
been very happy with the results.


Me too, I use the ones from Argos at £7.99 black and £9.99 colour.
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http://www.ink4spam.co.uk/


Colin Bignell


Did you really do that?


That is promote your own site as a fake testimonial?


It would appear so, yes :-/

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On 01/10/2010 21:18, Michael Chare wrote:
Canon replacement cartridges for my Pixma printer now cost almost as
much as I originally paid for the printer!

There are various cartridge refill kits which I could buy. Are these any
good?


Some are good, some are not. Universal kits usually owe more to the
desire of supermarkets to minimise the amount of space required on their
shelves than to the needs of the user.

I recommend a specialist kit, designed to suit a particular cartridge or
a small range of physically similar cartridges. This site sells the
InkTec range, which I fully recommend, and, for the more popular
cartridges, extra ink that can be used with the tools in a kit for even
more savings.

http://www.ink4spam.co.uk/

Colin Bignell


Did you really do that?

That is promote your own site as a fake testimonial?


I sold the business that runs that site some time ago and no longer have
any connection with either business or site, except as a customer. The
testimonial is also quite genuine. I buy and use the refill kits they
sell myself and have never found any as good as them.

These days I am semi-retired and the only business I run is

http://www.norscreenfilters.co.uk/

Colin Bignell


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On 01/10/2010 21:56, mike wrote:
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http://www.inkredible.co.uk/

They worked out at a quid a cart (for a compatible chipped Canon
MP600) and they've been indistinguishable from the Canon originals, so
personally I wouldn't mess around trying to refill at that price.


£19.06 for an HP21 :-(

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It depends. You can refill for quite a few times but at some point
you get a blockage of a jet which sometimes can be cleared and
somtimes not.
If the jets are part of the cartridge, you can just buy a new
cartride. No problem. But if the jets are not part of the cartridge
this could be major.

Incidently I'm not sure if it blocks or if there is some other problem
sometimes.

I've also noticed that the inks supplied are sometimes slightly
different colours or not as dense as the originals.
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Consider a small color laser.


Where the replacement toners cost 4 times the price of the printer.

With my Epson inkjet I have been using third party compatible cartridges
for years without problems. These cost around £1 to £2 each excl.
postage. *With prices as low as this why bother with refills?

Original inks and papers may only be important if you want top quality
photos for display or archive. Lesser quality inks may start fading or
changing colour when exposed to sunlight over a (short) period of time.
However, *I'm not sure all manufactures of original ink guarantee the
longevity of their product when exposed to sunlight.

A few years back some of the top printer companies used to advertise *in
trade papers by including a *photo printed with their inks and paper.
These were placed on a notice board at work with half covered up. After
month or so the covering was removed and compared to the part of the
photo exposed to daylight. There was always a marked difference between
the two halves.

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We have three or four local shops will refill your cartridges on and
exchange basis.
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On 01/10/2010 23:41, fred wrote:
In article , Nightjar
"cpb"@ "insertmysurnamehere@?.? writes
On 01/10/2010 21:18, Michael Chare wrote:
Canon replacement cartridges for my Pixma printer now cost almost as
much as I originally paid for the printer!

There are various cartridge refill kits which I could buy. Are these any
good?


Some are good, some are not. Universal kits usually owe more to the
desire of supermarkets to minimise the amount of space required on their
shelves than to the needs of the user.

I recommend a specialist kit, designed to suit a particular cartridge or
a small range of physically similar cartridges. This site sells the
InkTec range, which I fully recommend, and, for the more popular
cartridges, extra ink that can be used with the tools in a kit for even
more savings.

http://www.ink4spam.co.uk/

Colin Bignell


Did you really do that?

That is promote your own site as a fake testimonial?


I sold the business that runs that site some time ago and no longer have
any connection with either business or site, except as a customer. The
testimonial is also quite genuine. I buy and use the refill kits they
sell myself and have never found any as good as them.

These days I am semi-retired and the only business I run is

http://www.norscreenfilters.co.uk/

Colin Bignell

It certainly didn't sound like your style, you have been very discrete
in mentioning the ink business in the past.

It might have been an idea to declare your former interest though, just
so it was out in the open, as praising a site that is registered to
Bignell Online Ltd was bound to get the antennae twitching.
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On 01/10/2010 21:18, Michael Chare wrote:
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much as I originally paid for the printer!

There are various cartridge refill kits which I could buy. Are these any
good?



Get a cheap BW laser printer and keep the Pixma on Canon original colour
inks for use when colour printing really matters.

Going down the compatibles route with cheap ink and then mixing
different formulations is asking for weird and fustrating jet blockages,
some which may mean in my experience (with Epsons though) scrapping the
printer.

For ink carts 7dayshop's prices aren't that bad, and if you go for a
Brother HL-2035 laser which has cheap consumables (£33.69 for Brother
originals on Amazon) with 1500 page yield, you won't be buying so much
ink, and that £70 laser will almost pay for itself.

Also if it's photo printing you are doing, online companies do very fast
and cheap next day delivery - at very good quality. I wouldn't bother
printing own photos and using up all my ink, unless it truly was an
urgent requirement.

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Consider a small color laser.


Where the replacement toners cost 4 times the price of the printer.

With my Epson inkjet I have been using third party compatible cartridges
for years without problems. These cost around £1 to £2 each excl. postage.
With prices as low as this why bother with refills?

Original inks and papers may only be important if you want top quality
photos for display or archive. Lesser quality inks may start fading or
changing colour when exposed to sunlight over a (short) period of time.
However, I'm not sure all manufactures of original ink guarantee the
longevity of their product when exposed to sunlight.

A few years back some of the top printer companies used to advertise in
trade papers by including a photo printed with their inks and paper.
These were placed on a notice board at work with half covered up. After
month or so the covering was removed and compared to the part of the photo
exposed to daylight. There was always a marked difference between the two
halves.


To which most people's response will be "so what".

How much of your printing do you archive? Very little I would guess.

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There are various cartridge refill kits which I could buy. Are these
any good?


Refilling your own at home is far too messy. I use
http://www.cartridgeworld.co.uk/ and buy their compatibles - 16 quid for a
set of four (3 colour and one black) for an Epson Stylus DX4200. Epson
originals are over 30 quid now.


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I can remember at different times it being cheaper to buy a whole Colour
laser printer with toners than the toners alone.


The cartridges sold with such a printer are usually only 1/3rd full.

So not such a bargain as it might at first appear.

The printers are also usually slow, clunky GDI printers.


Recently I've been forced to accept a change from Xerox Postscript
printers to another make at the place where I work. This is largely
because of ideology. The replacement printers are the same physical size
but they are slow, clunky and rattle through consumables at about 2x the
rate of the printers they replaced.

At home I voted with my wallet and use only Xerox Phasers which are
expensive to buy but have a much lower consumable cost than many others.
I think Kyocera are cheaper for consumables but I have no experience of
the brand. Ink jets seem largely pointless apart from photo quality
printers and large format printing.
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I can remember at different times it being cheaper to buy a whole
Colour laser printer with toners than the toners alone.


These days you have to be careful with this. Printer manufactures now
produce "demo" cartridges included with their printers enough for a
limited number of test pages.


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On 02/10/2010 12:48, Pete Zahut wrote:
Michael Chare wrote:
Canon replacement cartridges for my Pixma printer now cost almost as
much as I originally paid for the printer!

There are various cartridge refill kits which I could buy. Are these
any good?


Refilling your own at home is far too messy.


That depends upon which kit you buy.

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On 02/10/2010 12:48, Pete Zahut wrote:
Michael Chare wrote:
Canon replacement cartridges for my Pixma printer now cost almost as
much as I originally paid for the printer!

There are various cartridge refill kits which I could buy. Are
these any good?


Refilling your own at home is far too messy.


That depends upon which kit you buy.

Colin Bignell


You may well be right Colin. I tried once, got it all over the kitchen
(admittedly I am a bit of a clumsy sod) and was banned on pain of death from
ever trying again by SWMBO :-)

£16 at Cartridgeworld is, BY FAR, the easiest option!




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On 02/10/2010 10:33, harry wrote:
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Canon replacement cartridges for my Pixma printer now cost almost as much as
I originally paid for the printer!

There are various cartridge refill kits which I could buy. Are these any
good?

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Michael

It depends. You can refill for quite a few times but at some point
you get a blockage of a jet which sometimes can be cleared and
somtimes not.


Provided you don't let the cartridge stand empty for more than a day or
two before refilling, you should avoid blocked jets and manage at least
5 refills, with 10-15 being more typical.

If the jets are part of the cartridge, you can just buy a new
cartride. No problem. But if the jets are not part of the cartridge
this could be major.


There are not many kits around for printers where the print head is not
part of the cartridge. They are simply not attractive when compatible
ink cartridges can be made so cheaply to suit such printers.

Incidently I'm not sure if it blocks or if there is some other problem
sometimes.


The heads simply wear out with use. For a few thousand quid you can buy
a machine that will check the nozzle function before you try to refill
the cartridge.

I've also noticed that the inks supplied are sometimes slightly
different colours or not as dense as the originals.


Dye coloured inks are cheaper than pigment coloured inks, so the cheaper
kits will use dye inks, even if the original is a pigment ink. Pigment
inks provide more vibrant colours than dye inks.

The better manufacturers have huge R&D departments that carefully match
colour and ink type to the originals. Indeed, some of them even supply
the ink for OEM cartridges.

Colin Bignell

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On 01/10/2010 22:48, Roger Mills wrote:
On 01/10/2010 21:18, Michael Chare wrote:
Canon replacement cartridges for my Pixma printer now cost almost as
much as I originally paid for the printer!

There are various cartridge refill kits which I could buy. Are these any
good?

Cheap printers and expensive cartridges are all part of the marketing
strategy because manufacturers can virtually give you the printer and
rely on making their money from ink sales. [Bit like mobile phones, really]


Mm... chatting to my daughter away at uni the other day, she told me how
she'd just bought a new Epson printer for about 35 quid and was really
chuffed with herself (ie having done this without having to get Dad's
advice).

Me: "So presumably it's an inkjet then?"
Her: "Eh? it's a printer."
Me: (having established that she'd just installed inkjet cartridges)
"How much are new cartridges then?"
Her: "No idea, I don't need any at the moment"

Hey ho. The answer turned out to be about 45 pounds a set... :-(

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On 2 Oct, 16:46, Lobster wrote:
On 01/10/2010 22:48, Roger Mills wrote:

On 01/10/2010 21:18, Michael Chare wrote:
Canon replacement cartridges for my Pixma printer now cost almost as
much as I originally paid for the printer!


There are various cartridge refill kits which I could buy. Are these any
good?


Cheap printers and expensive cartridges are all part of the marketing
strategy because manufacturers can virtually give you the printer and
rely on making their money from ink sales. [Bit like mobile phones, really]


Mm... chatting to my daughter away at uni the other day, she told me how
she'd just bought a new Epson printer for about 35 quid and was really
chuffed with herself (ie having done this without having to get Dad's
advice).

Me: "So presumably it's an inkjet then?"
Her: "Eh? it's a printer."
Me: (having established that she'd just installed inkjet cartridges)
"How much are new cartridges then?"
Her: "No idea, I don't need any at the moment"

Hey ho. *The answer turned out to be about 45 pounds a set... :-(

David


All part of the learning curve!
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There are various cartridge refill kits which I could buy. Are these any
good?




Depends on what pixma series it is, I have both the 4300 and 4500, been
refilling them for years with no issues. I get my ink from hobbicolors
in the USA as its almost a direct match to the oem canon ink.

You would need a re setting gizmo to reset the carts chips

Have a look here for sound advice.

www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/

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It depends. You can refill for quite a few times but at some point
you get a blockage of a jet which sometimes can be cleared and
somtimes not.
If the jets are part of the cartridge, you can just buy a new
cartride. No problem. But if the jets are not part of the cartridge
this could be major.

Incidently I'm not sure if it blocks or if there is some other problem
sometimes.

I've also noticed that the inks supplied are sometimes slightly
different colours or not as dense as the originals.


I gave up filling inkjets many years ago. I got a laser printer, originally a
mono one. Cartridges are more expensive, but last much longer, particularly
with irregular use. Not much later I added a colour laser, replacing a
standby inkjet. A cyan cartridge ran out (so it said) after a year and a
half. I bought a replacement set (they did cost nearly as much as the
printer) but two years later I haven't fitted them, but will need to soon.

If I'd still used the inkjet I'd have got through more money, and torn even
more of my (scant) hair out trying to get it to print.

Get a laser printer, you know it makes sense!

I'm now looking to replace my B&W laser with a colour multifunction
networked one. Any suggestions?


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Canon replacement cartridges for my Pixma printer now cost almost as
much as I originally paid for the printer!

There are various cartridge refill kits which I could buy. Are these any
good?




Depends on what pixma series it is, I have both the 4300 and 4500, been
refilling them for years with no issues. I get my ink from hobbicolors
in the USA as its almost a direct match to the oem canon ink.

You would need a re setting gizmo to reset the carts chips

Have a look here for sound advice.

www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/

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As you said,just buy the ink in bulk, fill with hypodermic, plug hole
with bluetac. with pixma you can cancel the chip reporting and just
watch ink levels manually.
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Dave Liquorice wrote:

Yep, that was my logic as well for dumping the mono laser and colour
inkjet in favour of a colour laser. The colour laser is fine for most
output and if I want something done properly I send away and get it
done properly...


What colour laser printer did you choose, as a matter of interest?
(I'm about to make such a choice choice.)

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On Tue, 05 Oct 2010 12:58:06 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:

What colour laser printer did you choose, as a matter of interest?


HP Colour LaserJet CP1515n. It's on my LAN so is accessable from all
machines. It does occasionally (once every couple of months)
disappear from the LAN as far as printing is concerned but you can
still talk to it over the LAN to its web interface...

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On 01/10/2010 21:50, Wesley wrote:

I've been using refill kits, both black and colour, for about 7 years,
and I've always
been very happy with the results.

Same here - never had a problem except once when I didn't use the printer
for abour six weeks and the heads dried up. But I believe this could have
happened even if I had been using Canon ink.


Out of nothing but curiosity, are the ink nozzles in the printer or the
cartridge? I once had an Epson photo printer and the nozzles on that are
in the printer and I had to use a full brand new cartridge to unblock
them when I hadn't used it over the summer. I have now switched to HP
printers and in general, I have been pleased with them.
I was in Staples yesterday and there was a woman pushing Kodak printers
and how little the ink costs and how many pages it would print. She
showed me one manufactures cart. that was reputed to print X number of
photos and then the Kodak one, which would print twice the number at a
lower cost per cart.

Has anyone had any experience with Kodak printers?

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Dave wrote:

I tried printing a colour photo onto an A4 glossy photo paper and it
came out matte I couldn't fault the quality though.


Be wary with using inkjet (coated) photo paper on lasers. It may ruin the
fuser. Lasers use heat to fix the toner.

Anyone know a source of laser photo paper?

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