Thought these were outlawed? neighbours have got a firm in changing
soffits/fascias and they're using them, instead of scaffold towers

On 27/11/2019 11:40, Andy Burns wrote:
Thought these were outlawed?Â* neighbours have got a firm in changing
soffits/fascias and they're using them, instead of scaffold towers

It is a myth that ladders have been outlawed. However, their use should
follow the HSE guidelines:

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg455.pdf


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I've seen plenty of people changing gutters etc using ladders on our two
storey houses. The only dicey bit looks like taking down the old cast Iron
stuff. They have a kind of strop system to lower them down.
Brian

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Thought these were outlawed? neighbours have got a firm in changing
soffits/fascias and they're using them, instead of scaffold towers

nightjar wrote:

It is a myth that ladders have been outlawed.

not ladders themselves, but ladder cripples

lansford seem to stop selling them

https://www.ladders-999.co.uk/scaffold-towers/lsd-ladder-staging-scaffold.html

Andy Burns wrote:

nightjar wrote:

It is a myth that ladders have been outlawed.

not ladders themselves, but ladder cripples

The ones they're ising have no guard rails, toe-boards etc.

On Wednesday, 27 November 2019 13:04:09 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:

nightjar wrote:

It is a myth that ladders have been outlawed.

not ladders themselves, but ladder cripples

The ones they're ising have no guard rails, toe-boards etc.

A couple of weeks ago when it was cold I saw a bloke from a company on a ladder up to the 1st floor painting the outside of the bay windows, on the rungs of a ladder in his slippers !

On 27/11/2019 13:51, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 27 November 2019 13:04:09 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:

nightjar wrote:

It is a myth that ladders have been outlawed.

not ladders themselves, but ladder cripples

The ones they're ising have no guard rails, toe-boards etc.

A couple of weeks ago when it was cold I saw a bloke from a company on a ladder up to the 1st floor painting the outside of the bay windows, on the rungs of a ladder in his slippers !


A few weeks ago someone here posted a video taken in India
or somewhere of a bloke fitting an external aircon unit 6 or 8
floors up on a ladder, with another guy on the roof holding
it vertical with a rope.

On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 13:55:22 +0000
Andrew wrote:

On 27/11/2019 13:51, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 27 November 2019 13:04:09 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:

nightjar wrote:

It is a myth that ladders have been outlawed.

not ladders themselves, but ladder cripples

The ones they're ising have no guard rails, toe-boards etc.

A couple of weeks ago when it was cold I saw a bloke from a company
on a ladder up to the 1st floor painting the outside of the bay
windows, on the rungs of a ladder in his slippers !

A few weeks ago someone here posted a video taken in India
or somewhere of a bloke fitting an external aircon unit 6 or 8
floors up on a ladder, with another guy on the roof holding
it vertical with a rope.

I worked on a job in Mexico a few years ago, and was impressed to see
that they had an extension ladder wired to the side bars of a scissor
lift, to get access to the highest part of the outside wall.

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Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:

I've seen plenty of people changing gutters etc using ladders on our two
storey houses

These have tow ladders up at front (and two at back) with a "shelf"
strung between them

On 27/11/2019 11:40, Andy Burns wrote:

Thought these were outlawed?Â* neighbours have got a firm in changing
soffits/fascias and they're using them, instead of scaffold towers

I thought if they have proper rails and guarding etc they are ok. Having
said that, I am sure there are plenty of firms about using stuff that is
technically speaking no longer acceptable...

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John Rumm wrote:

I thought if they have proper rails and guarding etc they are ok

these are just a pair of ladders, a pair of angled brackets and a wide
aluminium plank ... it's their necks I suppose.

"Andy Burns" wrote in message
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nightjar wrote:

It is a myth that ladders have been outlawed.

not ladders themselves, but ladder cripples

lansford seem to stop selling them

https://www.ladders-999.co.uk/scaffold-towers/lsd-ladder-staging-scaffold.html

Rgus lot is still hiring them out, with warnings.
https://www.1sthire.com/item/ladder-cripples/

On 27/11/2019 12:56, Andy Burns wrote:
nightjar wrote:

It is a myth that ladders have been outlawed.

not ladders themselves, but ladder cripples

Never heard them called that.

lansford seem to stop selling them

https://www.ladders-999.co.uk/scaffold-towers/lsd-ladder-staging-scaffold.html

The same principles will apply. There needs to have been a risk
assessment and they need to be used safely.


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On Thu, 28 Nov 2019 03:18:17 +1100, Ray, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:


Rgus lot is still hiring them out, with warnings.
https://www.1sthire.com/item/ladder-cripples/

Are you suspecting you are in Burns killfile, senile Rodent? LOL What a
senile assclown you are!

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On 27/11/2019 11:40, Andy Burns wrote:
Thought these were outlawed?Â* neighbours have got a firm in changing
soffits/fascias and they're using them, instead of scaffold towers

The house opposite had soffits, gutters and fascias to the highest point
of the house replaced the week before last. 2/3 workmen working from 3
ladders - no other equipment. At times it didn't look like safe working.
They only worked on the front of the house and took the best part of 3
days to complete.

When my mother's house had new soffits, facias gutters and downpipes
fitted it took one (long) day to do the front, back and side of house by
two men working from ladders and ladder cripples. This was around 3
years ago.

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nightjar wrote
Andy Burns wrote
nightjar wrote:

It is a myth that ladders have been outlawed.

not ladders themselves, but ladder cripples

Never heard them called that.

Yeah, I had to google it.

lansford seem to stop selling them

https://www.ladders-999.co.uk/scaffold-towers/lsd-ladder-staging-scaffold.html

The same principles will apply. There needs to have been a risk assessment
and they need to be used safely.

Not sure what the story is here. I have noticed that the roofs
usually do have temporary rails around them now and new
houses have temporary 8' high mesh panels at ground level
around the block of land while building but noticed one that
didnt last saturday with the boundary.

On Thu, 28 Nov 2019 07:39:58 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

Never heard them called that.

Yeah, I had to google it.

You did, didn't you, you useless senile idiot? Why didn't you ask the ONLY
person in your life that keeps talking to you, your beloved Alexa? LOL

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around around while you talk it to it.
Poor sad git who has to resort to Usenet and electronic devices for any
interaction as all real people run a mile to get away from from you boring
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