In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Sunday, 27 October 2019 11:36:26 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Cursitor Doom wrote:
The thing a lot of people haven't even thought about is that this
would never have happened pre-Schengen. If we still had inspections
of lorries at every border crossing in Europe like we used to
before the continent went mad then these poor souls would still be
incarnate. The EU is directly responsible for their deaths - and
I'll bet no one in Brussels gives a ****** about them.

Good try. I assume you think the UK is prevented by law from
inspecting anything that arrives at a UK port from the EU?

Perhaps it's because we trust things coming via the EU. There might be a
problem if we insted that everything was checked before it arrives in
the UK. Perhaps the EU are turinging a blind eye to such things because
they know that such immigration is bound for the UK.

Soemthing to do with free trade perhaps.

More like the Doom thing of blaming absolutely anyone else. He should be
in parliament.

Of course since he doesn't pay UK tax, he'd not be worried about the costs
of inspecting everything that comes into the UK.

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On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:05:22 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Sunday, 27 October 2019 11:36:26 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Cursitor Doom wrote:
The thing a lot of people haven't even thought about is that this
would never have happened pre-Schengen. If we still had inspections
of lorries at every border crossing in Europe like we used to
before the continent went mad then these poor souls would still be
incarnate. The EU is directly responsible for their deaths - and
I'll bet no one in Brussels gives a ****** about them.

Good try. I assume you think the UK is prevented by law from
inspecting anything that arrives at a UK port from the EU?

Perhaps it's because we trust things coming via the EU. There might be a
problem if we insted that everything was checked before it arrives in
the UK. Perhaps the EU are turinging a blind eye to such things because
they know that such immigration is bound for the UK.

Soemthing to do with free trade perhaps.

More like the Doom thing of blaming absolutely anyone else. He should be
in parliament.

Now there's an idea.


Of course since he doesn't pay UK tax, he'd not be worried about the costs
of inspecting everything that comes into the UK.

Well TBH the EU weren't interested in checking the lorry before it came into the EU why do you think that was ?
I don't think vietnam is in the EU is it.

In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
More like the Doom thing of blaming absolutely anyone else. He should
be in parliament.

Now there's an idea.


Of course since he doesn't pay UK tax, he'd not be worried about the
costs of inspecting everything that comes into the UK.

Well TBH the EU weren't interested in checking the lorry before it came
into the EU why do you think that was ? I don't think vietnam is in the
EU is it.

I rather doubt they travelled all the way from Vietnam in a refrigerated
container?

But it's a sign of the times. Expecting others to do their work for them.

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To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:05:22 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Sunday, 27 October 2019 11:36:26 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Cursitor Doom wrote:
The thing a lot of people haven't even thought about is that this
would never have happened pre-Schengen. If we still had inspections
of lorries at every border crossing in Europe like we used to
before the continent went mad then these poor souls would still be
incarnate. The EU is directly responsible for their deaths - and
I'll bet no one in Brussels gives a ****** about them.

Good try. I assume you think the UK is prevented by law from
inspecting anything that arrives at a UK port from the EU?

Perhaps it's because we trust things coming via the EU. There might be
a
problem if we insted that everything was checked before it arrives in
the UK. Perhaps the EU are turinging a blind eye to such things because
they know that such immigration is bound for the UK.

Soemthing to do with free trade perhaps.

More like the Doom thing of blaming absolutely anyone else. He should be
in parliament.

Now there's an idea.


Of course since he doesn't pay UK tax, he'd not be worried about the
costs
of inspecting everything that comes into the UK.

Well TBH the EU weren't interested in checking the lorry
before it came into the EU why do you think that was ?

They didnt get into the EU inside that truck. They
wouldnt have survived in that truck for that long.

They were only in that truck where checking from
outside the truck was done with thermal scanning.

On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 15:15:57 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
More like the Doom thing of blaming absolutely anyone else. He should
be in parliament.

Now there's an idea.


Of course since he doesn't pay UK tax, he'd not be worried about the
costs of inspecting everything that comes into the UK.

Well TBH the EU weren't interested in checking the lorry before it came
into the EU why do you think that was ? I don't think vietnam is in the
EU is it.

I rather doubt they travelled all the way from Vietnam in a refrigerated
container?

Well I hope we find out, but where do you think Vietnamese people come from ?



But it's a sign of the times. Expecting others to do their work for them.

Signs can be wrong too.

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Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH senile Ozzietard's latest troll****

Why don't you troll in Ozzie ngs, you abnormal trolling nym-shifting senile
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On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 15:52:57 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:05:22 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Sunday, 27 October 2019 11:36:26 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Cursitor Doom wrote:
The thing a lot of people haven't even thought about is that this
would never have happened pre-Schengen. If we still had inspections
of lorries at every border crossing in Europe like we used to
before the continent went mad then these poor souls would still be
incarnate. The EU is directly responsible for their deaths - and
I'll bet no one in Brussels gives a ****** about them.

Good try. I assume you think the UK is prevented by law from
inspecting anything that arrives at a UK port from the EU?

Perhaps it's because we trust things coming via the EU. There might be
a
problem if we insted that everything was checked before it arrives in
the UK. Perhaps the EU are turinging a blind eye to such things because
they know that such immigration is bound for the UK.

Soemthing to do with free trade perhaps.

More like the Doom thing of blaming absolutely anyone else. He should be
in parliament.

Now there's an idea.


Of course since he doesn't pay UK tax, he'd not be worried about the
costs
of inspecting everything that comes into the UK.

Well TBH the EU weren't interested in checking the lorry
before it came into the EU why do you think that was ?

They didnt get into the EU inside that truck.

I agree I would say they get in the trucks before the trucks enter the EU.

They
wouldnt have survived in that truck for that long.

They didn't survive yuo do know that don;t you.
The reason such trucks are used is to keep stuff from going off, and that
is mainly aimed at meat, humans are made of meat, so they could have been in there weeks kept cold.


They were only in that truck where checking from
outside the truck was done with thermal scanning.

SO why didn't it show them....
Because they were ****ing cold same temperature at the trucks interia and at about -15C that is bloody cold enough to kill.
But they could have died from lack of oxygen or too much CO2.
We won;t know until the autopsy results are released them perhaps we'll have a better idea of when and where they boarded the truck.

"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 15:52:57 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:05:22 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Sunday, 27 October 2019 11:36:26 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Cursitor Doom wrote:
The thing a lot of people haven't even thought about is that
this
would never have happened pre-Schengen. If we still had
inspections
of lorries at every border crossing in Europe like we used to
before the continent went mad then these poor souls would still
be
incarnate. The EU is directly responsible for their deaths - and
I'll bet no one in Brussels gives a ****** about them.

Good try. I assume you think the UK is prevented by law from
inspecting anything that arrives at a UK port from the EU?

Perhaps it's because we trust things coming via the EU. There might
be
a
problem if we insted that everything was checked before it arrives
in
the UK. Perhaps the EU are turinging a blind eye to such things
because
they know that such immigration is bound for the UK.

Soemthing to do with free trade perhaps.

More like the Doom thing of blaming absolutely anyone else. He should
be
in parliament.

Now there's an idea.


Of course since he doesn't pay UK tax, he'd not be worried about the
costs
of inspecting everything that comes into the UK.

Well TBH the EU weren't interested in checking the lorry
before it came into the EU why do you think that was ?

They didnt get into the EU inside that truck.

I agree I would say they get in the trucks before the trucks enter the EU.

Hard to see that either given the relatively short
time that it is possible to still breath inside that
truck with 39 people in it, unless it has some way
of getting fresh air inside it that failed in this case.

They wouldnt have survived in that truck for that long.

The reason such trucks are used is to keep stuff from going
off, and that is mainly aimed at meat, humans are made of
meat, so they could have been in there weeks kept cold.

Irrelevant to how long 39 live humans
can breath in a truck like that.

They were only in that truck where checking from
outside the truck was done with thermal scanning.

SO why didn't it show them....

Because the insulation stops that.

Because they were ****ing cold

You dont know that the fridge was running.

same temperature at the trucks interia

That isnt the reason refrigerated trucks are
used to get illegals thru the port checks.

and at about -15C that is bloody cold enough to kill.

Nope, mate of mine drives a forklift in a cold store
at that temp and does that 5 nights a week most
weeks, sometime 7 nights some weeks on overtime.

But they could have died from lack of oxygen or too much CO2.

Yep, thats much more likely and trivial for the autopsy to work that out.

We won;t know until the autopsy results are released them perhaps
we'll have a better idea of when and where they boarded the truck.

But we do know how long 39 live humans can survive in a truck
that size unless it has an fresh air system that can be turned off
and on and someone managed to forget to turn it on again once
it had got thru the port checks for illegals using thermal imaging.

On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 08:21:41 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH senile asshole's troll****

Get the **** out of humans-only ngs, you senile Ozzie pest!

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On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 17:01:08 UTC, whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 15:52:57 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:05:22 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Sunday, 27 October 2019 11:36:26 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Cursitor Doom wrote:
The thing a lot of people haven't even thought about is that this
would never have happened pre-Schengen. If we still had inspections
of lorries at every border crossing in Europe like we used to
before the continent went mad then these poor souls would still be
incarnate. The EU is directly responsible for their deaths - and
I'll bet no one in Brussels gives a ****** about them.

Good try. I assume you think the UK is prevented by law from
inspecting anything that arrives at a UK port from the EU?

Perhaps it's because we trust things coming via the EU. There might be
a
problem if we insted that everything was checked before it arrives in
the UK. Perhaps the EU are turinging a blind eye to such things because
they know that such immigration is bound for the UK.

Soemthing to do with free trade perhaps.

More like the Doom thing of blaming absolutely anyone else. He should be
in parliament.

Now there's an idea.


Of course since he doesn't pay UK tax, he'd not be worried about the
costs
of inspecting everything that comes into the UK.

Well TBH the EU weren't interested in checking the lorry
before it came into the EU why do you think that was ?

They didnt get into the EU inside that truck.

I agree I would say they get in the trucks before the trucks enter the EU..

They
wouldnt have survived in that truck for that long.

They didn't survive yuo do know that don;t you.
The reason such trucks are used is to keep stuff from going off, and that
is mainly aimed at meat, humans are made of meat, so they could have been in there weeks kept cold.


They were only in that truck where checking from
outside the truck was done with thermal scanning.

SO why didn't it show them....
Because they were ****ing cold same temperature at the trucks interia and at about -15C that is bloody cold enough to kill.
But they could have died from lack of oxygen or too much CO2.
We won;t know until the autopsy results are released them perhaps we'll have a better idea of when and where they boarded the truck.

They go in refrigerated trucks because they are insulated in order to defeat in IR scanners.
The refrigeration is obviously turned off.

On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 21:24:13 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 15:52:57 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:05:22 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Sunday, 27 October 2019 11:36:26 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Cursitor Doom wrote:
The thing a lot of people haven't even thought about is that
this
would never have happened pre-Schengen. If we still had
inspections
of lorries at every border crossing in Europe like we used to
before the continent went mad then these poor souls would still
be
incarnate. The EU is directly responsible for their deaths - and
I'll bet no one in Brussels gives a ****** about them.

Good try. I assume you think the UK is prevented by law from
inspecting anything that arrives at a UK port from the EU?

Perhaps it's because we trust things coming via the EU. There might
be
a
problem if we insted that everything was checked before it arrives
in
the UK. Perhaps the EU are turinging a blind eye to such things
because
they know that such immigration is bound for the UK.

Soemthing to do with free trade perhaps.

More like the Doom thing of blaming absolutely anyone else. He should
be
in parliament.

Now there's an idea.


Of course since he doesn't pay UK tax, he'd not be worried about the
costs
of inspecting everything that comes into the UK.

Well TBH the EU weren't interested in checking the lorry
before it came into the EU why do you think that was ?

They didnt get into the EU inside that truck.

I agree I would say they get in the trucks before the trucks enter the EU.

Hard to see that either given the relatively short
time that it is possible to still breath inside that
truck with 39 people in it, unless it has some way
of getting fresh air inside it that failed in this case.

I;d have assumed it would be quite a long journey in the truck if you're paying £10k+ each. It;s not lioke a 5 min bus ride.
I doubt the driver was bothered and was paid to take the truck and deleiver the truck for a set price.


They wouldnt have survived in that truck for that long.

The reason such trucks are used is to keep stuff from going
off, and that is mainly aimed at meat, humans are made of
meat, so they could have been in there weeks kept cold.

Irrelevant to how long 39 live humans
can breath in a truck like that.

Even when breathing people can die of cold and of other things such as too much CO2



They were only in that truck where checking from
outside the truck was done with thermal scanning.

SO why didn't it show them....

Because the insulation stops that.

Then it's pointless using such a device then isn't it because those trucks are insulated by design.



Because they were ****ing cold

You dont know that the fridge was running.

We don't know if they were running a disco in the back with party poppers either.


same temperature at the trucks interia

That isnt the reason refrigerated trucks are
used to get illegals thru the port checks.

So why are they used if they don;t use the refrigeration option or
have the truck carry things from A to B.
What do yuo think such trucks are used for if they arenlt for refrigeration or transporting things. ?


and at about -15C that is bloody cold enough to kill.

Nope, mate of mine drives a forklift in a cold store
at that temp and does that 5 nights a week most
weeks, sometime 7 nights some weeks on overtime.

So.
I'm betting he doesn;t spend more than 50mins in the cold store anyway
at any one time. My dad had to work in one and he wasn't allowed to be in there for more than 20mins at a time.

I didn't think you had any 'living' mates anyway.




But they could have died from lack of oxygen or too much CO2.

Yep, thats much more likely and trivial for the autopsy to work that out.

Hopefully.


We won;t know until the autopsy results are released them perhaps
we'll have a better idea of when and where they boarded the truck.

But we do know how long 39 live humans can survive in a truck
that size unless it has an fresh air system that can be turned off
and on and someone managed to forget to turn it on again once
it had got thru the port checks for illegals using thermal imaging.

Why does a truck like that need 'fresh air' no air is better for transportation, unless you're etransporting live stock.
Why do you think most produced is packed in nitrogen and not oxygen ?

On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 08:50:11 UTC, harry wrote:
On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 17:01:08 UTC, whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 15:52:57 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:05:22 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Sunday, 27 October 2019 11:36:26 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Cursitor Doom wrote:
The thing a lot of people haven't even thought about is that this
would never have happened pre-Schengen. If we still had inspections
of lorries at every border crossing in Europe like we used to
before the continent went mad then these poor souls would still be
incarnate. The EU is directly responsible for their deaths - and
I'll bet no one in Brussels gives a ****** about them.

Good try. I assume you think the UK is prevented by law from
inspecting anything that arrives at a UK port from the EU?

Perhaps it's because we trust things coming via the EU. There might be
a
problem if we insted that everything was checked before it arrives in
the UK. Perhaps the EU are turinging a blind eye to such things because
they know that such immigration is bound for the UK.

Soemthing to do with free trade perhaps.

More like the Doom thing of blaming absolutely anyone else. He should be
in parliament.

Now there's an idea.


Of course since he doesn't pay UK tax, he'd not be worried about the
costs
of inspecting everything that comes into the UK.

Well TBH the EU weren't interested in checking the lorry
before it came into the EU why do you think that was ?

They didnt get into the EU inside that truck.

I agree I would say they get in the trucks before the trucks enter the EU.

They
wouldnt have survived in that truck for that long.

They didn't survive yuo do know that don;t you.
The reason such trucks are used is to keep stuff from going off, and that
is mainly aimed at meat, humans are made of meat, so they could have been in there weeks kept cold.


They were only in that truck where checking from
outside the truck was done with thermal scanning.

SO why didn't it show them....
Because they were ****ing cold same temperature at the trucks interia and at about -15C that is bloody cold enough to kill.
But they could have died from lack of oxygen or too much CO2.
We won;t know until the autopsy results are released them perhaps we'll have a better idea of when and where they boarded the truck.

They go in refrigerated trucks because they are insulated in order to defeat in IR scanners.
The refrigeration is obviously turned off.

So no one in boarder control is suspicious of a refrigration truck that hasn't been referigerated and no one thinks to open the door to check what is in there, well that makes sense.
Seems loke a truck like that could carry quite a bit of cocaine or herion or any drugs and not be checked...

I feel a dragons den moment coming on.....

On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 12:39:00 UTC, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 08:50:11 UTC, harry wrote:
On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 17:01:08 UTC, whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 15:52:57 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:05:22 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Sunday, 27 October 2019 11:36:26 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Cursitor Doom wrote:
The thing a lot of people haven't even thought about is that this
would never have happened pre-Schengen. If we still had inspections
of lorries at every border crossing in Europe like we used to
before the continent went mad then these poor souls would still be
incarnate. The EU is directly responsible for their deaths - and
I'll bet no one in Brussels gives a ****** about them.

Good try. I assume you think the UK is prevented by law from
inspecting anything that arrives at a UK port from the EU?

Perhaps it's because we trust things coming via the EU. There might be
a
problem if we insted that everything was checked before it arrives in
the UK. Perhaps the EU are turinging a blind eye to such things because
they know that such immigration is bound for the UK.

Soemthing to do with free trade perhaps.

More like the Doom thing of blaming absolutely anyone else. He should be
in parliament.

Now there's an idea.


Of course since he doesn't pay UK tax, he'd not be worried about the
costs
of inspecting everything that comes into the UK.

Well TBH the EU weren't interested in checking the lorry
before it came into the EU why do you think that was ?

They didnt get into the EU inside that truck.

I agree I would say they get in the trucks before the trucks enter the EU.

They
wouldnt have survived in that truck for that long.

They didn't survive yuo do know that don;t you.
The reason such trucks are used is to keep stuff from going off, and that
is mainly aimed at meat, humans are made of meat, so they could have been in there weeks kept cold.


They were only in that truck where checking from
outside the truck was done with thermal scanning.

SO why didn't it show them....
Because they were ****ing cold same temperature at the trucks interia and at about -15C that is bloody cold enough to kill.
But they could have died from lack of oxygen or too much CO2.
We won;t know until the autopsy results are released them perhaps we'll have a better idea of when and where they boarded the truck.

They go in refrigerated trucks because they are insulated in order to defeat in IR scanners.
The refrigeration is obviously turned off.

So no one in boarder control is suspicious of a refrigration truck that hasn't been referigerated and no one thinks to open the door to check what is in there, well that makes sense.
Seems loke a truck like that could carry quite a bit of cocaine or herion or any drugs and not be checked...

I feel a dragons den moment coming on.....

Refrigerated trucks have the refrigeration turned off when they are (supposedly) empty. ie,Returning to base after a delivery has been offloaded.

On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 15:24:35 UTC, harry wrote:
On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 12:39:00 UTC, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 08:50:11 UTC, harry wrote:
On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 17:01:08 UTC, whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 15:52:57 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:05:22 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Sunday, 27 October 2019 11:36:26 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Cursitor Doom wrote:
The thing a lot of people haven't even thought about is that this
would never have happened pre-Schengen. If we still had inspections
of lorries at every border crossing in Europe like we used to
before the continent went mad then these poor souls would still be
incarnate. The EU is directly responsible for their deaths - and
I'll bet no one in Brussels gives a ****** about them.

Good try. I assume you think the UK is prevented by law from
inspecting anything that arrives at a UK port from the EU?

Perhaps it's because we trust things coming via the EU. There might be
a
problem if we insted that everything was checked before it arrives in
the UK. Perhaps the EU are turinging a blind eye to such things because
they know that such immigration is bound for the UK.

Soemthing to do with free trade perhaps.

More like the Doom thing of blaming absolutely anyone else. He should be
in parliament.

Now there's an idea.


Of course since he doesn't pay UK tax, he'd not be worried about the
costs
of inspecting everything that comes into the UK.

Well TBH the EU weren't interested in checking the lorry
before it came into the EU why do you think that was ?

They didnt get into the EU inside that truck.

I agree I would say they get in the trucks before the trucks enter the EU.

They
wouldnt have survived in that truck for that long.

They didn't survive yuo do know that don;t you.
The reason such trucks are used is to keep stuff from going off, and that
is mainly aimed at meat, humans are made of meat, so they could have been in there weeks kept cold.


They were only in that truck where checking from
outside the truck was done with thermal scanning.

SO why didn't it show them....
Because they were ****ing cold same temperature at the trucks interia and at about -15C that is bloody cold enough to kill.
But they could have died from lack of oxygen or too much CO2.
We won;t know until the autopsy results are released them perhaps we'll have a better idea of when and where they boarded the truck.

They go in refrigerated trucks because they are insulated in order to defeat in IR scanners.
The refrigeration is obviously turned off.

So no one in boarder control is suspicious of a refrigration truck that hasn't been referigerated and no one thinks to open the door to check what is in there, well that makes sense.
Seems loke a truck like that could carry quite a bit of cocaine or herion or any drugs and not be checked...

I feel a dragons den moment coming on.....

Refrigerated trucks have the refrigeration turned off when they are (supposedly) empty. ie,Returning to base after a delivery has been offloaded.

I would assume from documents it could be worked out whether it was delivering or returning, and even then, if they are returning with the refrideration off then why can't customs check by opening the doors ?
Another thing as we don't export anyhting or not much, surely a lorry returning empty and unfrigerated would be suspicious and opened.
Or perhaps some backhanders are why this has happened.

"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 21:24:13 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 15:52:57 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:05:22 UTC, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Sunday, 27 October 2019 11:36:26 UTC, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
In article ,
Cursitor Doom wrote:
The thing a lot of people haven't even thought about is that
this
would never have happened pre-Schengen. If we still had
inspections
of lorries at every border crossing in Europe like we used to
before the continent went mad then these poor souls would
still
be
incarnate. The EU is directly responsible for their deaths -
and
I'll bet no one in Brussels gives a ****** about them.

Good try. I assume you think the UK is prevented by law from
inspecting anything that arrives at a UK port from the EU?

Perhaps it's because we trust things coming via the EU. There
might
be
a
problem if we insted that everything was checked before it
arrives
in
the UK. Perhaps the EU are turinging a blind eye to such things
because
they know that such immigration is bound for the UK.

Soemthing to do with free trade perhaps.

More like the Doom thing of blaming absolutely anyone else. He
should
be
in parliament.

Now there's an idea.


Of course since he doesn't pay UK tax, he'd not be worried about
the
costs
of inspecting everything that comes into the UK.

Well TBH the EU weren't interested in checking the lorry
before it came into the EU why do you think that was ?

They didnt get into the EU inside that truck.

I agree I would say they get in the trucks before the trucks enter the
EU.

Hard to see that either given the relatively short
time that it is possible to still breath inside that
truck with 39 people in it, unless it has some way
of getting fresh air inside it that failed in this case.

I;d have assumed it would be quite a long
journey in the truck if you're paying £10k+ each.

More fool you. It only needs to be in fridge truck where
it goes thru the thermal image check, stupid, No point
in the rest of the movement in the schengen area.

They wouldnt have survived in that truck for that long.

The reason such trucks are used is to keep stuff from going
off, and that is mainly aimed at meat, humans are made of
meat, so they could have been in there weeks kept cold.

Irrelevant to how long 39 live humans
can breath in a truck like that.

Even when breathing people can die of cold

But you dont know that the fridge was
running except maybe in the port itself
where the thermal scanning is done.

no point in the rest of your even sillier
****, here goes the chain on the rest of it

On Thu, 31 Oct 2019 04:33:14 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH another 98 lines of senile troll**** unread

--
Norman Wells addressing senile Rot:
"Ah, the voice of scum speaks."
MID:

On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 17:41:03 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 21:24:13 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 15:52:57 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:05:22 UTC, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Sunday, 27 October 2019 11:36:26 UTC, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
In article ,
Cursitor Doom wrote:
The thing a lot of people haven't even thought about is that
this
would never have happened pre-Schengen. If we still had
inspections
of lorries at every border crossing in Europe like we used to
before the continent went mad then these poor souls would
still
be
incarnate. The EU is directly responsible for their deaths -
and
I'll bet no one in Brussels gives a ****** about them.

Good try. I assume you think the UK is prevented by law from
inspecting anything that arrives at a UK port from the EU?

Perhaps it's because we trust things coming via the EU. There
might
be
a
problem if we insted that everything was checked before it
arrives
in
the UK. Perhaps the EU are turinging a blind eye to such things
because
they know that such immigration is bound for the UK.

Soemthing to do with free trade perhaps.

More like the Doom thing of blaming absolutely anyone else. He
should
be
in parliament.

Now there's an idea.


Of course since he doesn't pay UK tax, he'd not be worried about
the
costs
of inspecting everything that comes into the UK.

Well TBH the EU weren't interested in checking the lorry
before it came into the EU why do you think that was ?

They didnt get into the EU inside that truck.

I agree I would say they get in the trucks before the trucks enter the
EU.

Hard to see that either given the relatively short
time that it is possible to still breath inside that
truck with 39 people in it, unless it has some way
of getting fresh air inside it that failed in this case.

I;d have assumed it would be quite a long
journey in the truck if you're paying £10k+ each.

More fool you. It only needs to be in fridge truck where
it goes thru the thermal image check, stupid, No point
in the rest of the movement in the schengen area.

They why don;t customer check these trucks if that the only trucks that can be used for traficking people ?


They wouldnt have survived in that truck for that long.

The reason such trucks are used is to keep stuff from going
off, and that is mainly aimed at meat, humans are made of
meat, so they could have been in there weeks kept cold.

Irrelevant to how long 39 live humans
can breath in a truck like that.

Even when breathing people can die of cold

But you dont know that the fridge was
running except maybe in the port itself
where the thermal scanning is done.

No we don;t but hopefully we'll find out or at least someone will.


no point in the rest of your even sillier
****, here goes the chain on the rest of it

On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 04:30:58 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH troll****

04:30 in Australia? So when did you get out of bed today to start with your
insipid trolling again, you abnormal senile cretin from Australia?

--
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cretin from Oz:
https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/

"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 17:41:03 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 21:24:13 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 15:52:57 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:05:22 UTC, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
In article
,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Sunday, 27 October 2019 11:36:26 UTC, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
In article ,
Cursitor Doom wrote:
The thing a lot of people haven't even thought about is
that
this
would never have happened pre-Schengen. If we still had
inspections
of lorries at every border crossing in Europe like we used
to
before the continent went mad then these poor souls would
still
be
incarnate. The EU is directly responsible for their
deaths -
and
I'll bet no one in Brussels gives a ****** about them.

Good try. I assume you think the UK is prevented by law from
inspecting anything that arrives at a UK port from the EU?

Perhaps it's because we trust things coming via the EU. There
might
be
a
problem if we insted that everything was checked before it
arrives
in
the UK. Perhaps the EU are turinging a blind eye to such
things
because
they know that such immigration is bound for the UK.

Soemthing to do with free trade perhaps.

More like the Doom thing of blaming absolutely anyone else. He
should
be
in parliament.

Now there's an idea.


Of course since he doesn't pay UK tax, he'd not be worried about
the
costs
of inspecting everything that comes into the UK.

Well TBH the EU weren't interested in checking the lorry
before it came into the EU why do you think that was ?

They didnt get into the EU inside that truck.

I agree I would say they get in the trucks before the trucks enter
the
EU.

Hard to see that either given the relatively short
time that it is possible to still breath inside that
truck with 39 people in it, unless it has some way
of getting fresh air inside it that failed in this case.

I;d have assumed it would be quite a long
journey in the truck if you're paying £10k+ each.

More fool you. It only needs to be in fridge truck where
it goes thru the thermal image check, stupid, No point
in the rest of the movement in the schengen area.

They why don;t customer check these trucks if that the
only trucks that can be used for traficking people ?

They arent, stupid.

They wouldnt have survived in that truck for that long.

The reason such trucks are used is to keep stuff from going
off, and that is mainly aimed at meat, humans are made of
meat, so they could have been in there weeks kept cold.

Irrelevant to how long 39 live humans
can breath in a truck like that.

Even when breathing people can die of cold

But you dont know that the fridge was
running except maybe in the port itself
where the thermal scanning is done.

No we don;t but hopefully we'll find out or at least someone will.

Not possible to find that out now unless one
of the perps spills the beans or someone else
who was successfully trafficked by the operation
does, which is rather unlikely.

no point in the rest of your even sillier
****, here goes the chain on the rest of it

On Thursday, 31 October 2019 17:36:32 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 17:41:03 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 21:24:13 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 15:52:57 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:05:22 UTC, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
In article
,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Sunday, 27 October 2019 11:36:26 UTC, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
In article ,
Cursitor Doom wrote:
The thing a lot of people haven't even thought about is
that
this
would never have happened pre-Schengen. If we still had
inspections
of lorries at every border crossing in Europe like we used
to
before the continent went mad then these poor souls would
still
be
incarnate. The EU is directly responsible for their
deaths -
and
I'll bet no one in Brussels gives a ****** about them.

Good try. I assume you think the UK is prevented by law from
inspecting anything that arrives at a UK port from the EU?

Perhaps it's because we trust things coming via the EU. There
might
be
a
problem if we insted that everything was checked before it
arrives
in
the UK. Perhaps the EU are turinging a blind eye to such
things
because
they know that such immigration is bound for the UK.

Soemthing to do with free trade perhaps.

More like the Doom thing of blaming absolutely anyone else. He
should
be
in parliament.

Now there's an idea.


Of course since he doesn't pay UK tax, he'd not be worried about
the
costs
of inspecting everything that comes into the UK.

Well TBH the EU weren't interested in checking the lorry
before it came into the EU why do you think that was ?

They didnt get into the EU inside that truck.

I agree I would say they get in the trucks before the trucks enter
the
EU.

Hard to see that either given the relatively short
time that it is possible to still breath inside that
truck with 39 people in it, unless it has some way
of getting fresh air inside it that failed in this case.

I;d have assumed it would be quite a long
journey in the truck if you're paying £10k+ each.

More fool you. It only needs to be in fridge truck where
it goes thru the thermal image check, stupid, No point
in the rest of the movement in the schengen area.

They why don;t customer check these trucks if that the
only trucks that can be used for traficking people ?

They arent, stupid.

They must be if they let trucks through customers alledgey emptem and don;t check for anything.


They wouldnt have survived in that truck for that long.

The reason such trucks are used is to keep stuff from going
off, and that is mainly aimed at meat, humans are made of
meat, so they could have been in there weeks kept cold.

Irrelevant to how long 39 live humans
can breath in a truck like that.

Even when breathing people can die of cold

But you dont know that the fridge was
running except maybe in the port itself
where the thermal scanning is done.

No we don;t but hopefully we'll find out or at least someone will.

Not possible to find that out now unless one
of the perps spills the beans or someone else
who was successfully trafficked by the operation
does, which is rather unlikely.

it is possible you've just stated that it is possible ****wit.



no point in the rest of your even sillier
****, here goes the chain on the rest of it