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On 19/10/2019 18:21, Jim K... wrote:
Following the installation of a new kitchen & aplliances,
replacement cooker cable, new lighting, switches, sockets etc etc
a friend is being told by the "fitter" that no certification is
required as the electrical works are "minor"..

What chapter & verse(s) should they be using to ensure the
required paperwork is forthcoming? And what would be the correct
paperwork?

If the "fitter" is unable to supply appropriate paperwork, what
avenues are available to the householder to correct the
situation? (Excepting the "deny all knowledge when selling up"
option)

TIA


They should request an electrical installation completion certificate as
a minimum.
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Following the installation of a new kitchen & aplliances,
replacement cooker cable, new lighting, switches, sockets etc etc
a friend is being told by the "fitter" that no certification is
required as the electrical works are "minor"..

What chapter & verse(s) should they be using to ensure the
required paperwork is forthcoming? And what would be the correct
paperwork?

If the "fitter" is unable to supply appropriate paperwork, what
avenues are available to the householder to correct the
situation? (Excepting the "deny all knowledge when selling up"
option)

TIA
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On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 18:33:41 +0100, Tufnell Park wrote:

On 19/10/2019 18:21, Jim K... wrote:
Following the installation of a new kitchen & aplliances,
replacement cooker cable, new lighting, switches, sockets etc etc a
friend is being told by the "fitter" that no certification is
required as the electrical works are "minor"..


They should request an electrical installation completion certificate as
a minimum.


Not if it is minor works, just a minor works certificate is required.
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On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 18:33:41 +0100, Tufnell Park wrote:

On 19/10/2019 18:21, Jim K... wrote:
Following the installation of a new kitchen & aplliances,
replacement cooker cable, new lighting, switches, sockets etc etc a
friend is being told by the "fitter" that no certification is
required as the electrical works are "minor"..


They should request an electrical installation completion certificate as
a minimum.


Not if it is minor works, just a minor works certificate is required.


Does is sound like "minor works"?
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On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 18:33:41 +0100, Tufnell Park wrote:

On 19/10/2019 18:21, Jim K... wrote:
Following the installation of a new kitchen & aplliances,
replacement cooker cable, new lighting, switches, sockets etc etc a
friend is being told by the "fitter" that no certification is
required as the electrical works are "minor"..


They should request an electrical installation completion certificate as
a minimum.


Not if it is minor works, just a minor works certificate is required.


Does is sound like "minor works"?


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On 20/10/2019 14:09, Alan wrote:
On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 18:33:41 +0100, Tufnell Park wrote:

On 19/10/2019 18:21, Jim K... wrote:
Following the installation of a new kitchen & aplliances,
replacement cooker cable, new lighting, switches, sockets etc etc a
friend is being told by the "fitter" that no certification is
required as the electrical works are "minor"..


They should request an electrical installation completion certificate as
a minimum.


Not if it is minor works, just a minor works certificate is required.


More than one minor works certificate will be required:-)

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On 20/10/2019 14:33, Jimk wrote:
Jimk Wrote in message:
Alan Wrote in message:
On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 18:33:41 +0100, Tufnell Park wrote:

On 19/10/2019 18:21, Jim K... wrote:
Following the installation of a new kitchen & aplliances,
replacement cooker cable, new lighting, switches, sockets etc etc a
friend is being told by the "fitter" that no certification is
required as the electrical works are "minor"..

They should request an electrical installation completion certificate as
a minimum.

Not if it is minor works, just a minor works certificate is required.


Does is sound like "minor works"?


...it...


It is possible the fitter is mixing up Part P notification with basic
electrical certificates.

Now it could be a mistake on his part or he could be lying through his
teeth when he says no certification is needed.


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On 20/10/2019 14:33, Jimk wrote:
Jimk Wrote in message:
Alan Wrote in message:
On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 18:33:41 +0100, Tufnell Park wrote:

On 19/10/2019 18:21, Jim K... wrote:
Following the installation of a new kitchen & aplliances,
replacement cooker cable, new lighting, switches, sockets etc etc a
friend is being told by the "fitter" that no certification is
required as the electrical works are "minor"..

They should request an electrical installation completion certificate as
a minimum.

Not if it is minor works, just a minor works certificate is required.


Does is sound like "minor works"?


...it...


It is possible the fitter is mixing up Part P notification with basic
electrical certificates.

Now it could be a mistake on his part or he could be lying through his
teeth when he says no certification is needed.


I have my suspicions ! :-)

Given the list of items what *should* they have paperwork -wise?

What can they realistically do if the "fitter" cannot acquire the
correct paperwork?

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On 20/10/2019 14:33, Jimk wrote:
Jimk Wrote in message:
Alan Wrote in message:
On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 18:33:41 +0100, Tufnell Park wrote:

On 19/10/2019 18:21, Jim K... wrote:
Following the installation of a new kitchen & aplliances,
replacement cooker cable, new lighting, switches, sockets etc etc a
friend is being told by the "fitter" that no certification is
required as the electrical works are "minor"..

They should request an electrical installation completion certificate as
a minimum.

Not if it is minor works, just a minor works certificate is required.


Does is sound like "minor works"?


...it...


It is possible the fitter is mixing up Part P notification with basic
electrical certificates.

Now it could be a mistake on his part or he could be lying through his
teeth when he says no certification is needed.


If all the work was in the kitchen, using existing cirtuits, such as
just a new cable from the cooker isolation switch, might it not just be
minor work? Are kitchens still obligatory Part P?

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On 20/10/2019 18:10, Jimk wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 20/10/2019 14:33, Jimk wrote:
Jimk Wrote in message:
Alan Wrote in message:
On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 18:33:41 +0100, Tufnell Park wrote:

On 19/10/2019 18:21, Jim K... wrote:
Following the installation of a new kitchen & aplliances,
replacement cooker cable, new lighting, switches, sockets etc etc a
friend is being told by the "fitter" that no certification is
required as the electrical works are "minor"..

They should request an electrical installation completion certificate as
a minimum.

Not if it is minor works, just a minor works certificate is required.


Does is sound like "minor works"?

...it...


It is possible the fitter is mixing up Part P notification with basic
electrical certificates.

Now it could be a mistake on his part or he could be lying through his
teeth when he says no certification is needed.


I have my suspicions ! :-)

Given the list of items what *should* they have paperwork -wise?

What can they realistically do if the "fitter" cannot acquire the
correct paperwork?


It depends if they want to cause him trouble.



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On 20/10/2019 14:09, Alan wrote:
On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 18:33:41 +0100, Tufnell Park wrote:

On 19/10/2019 18:21, Jim K... wrote:
Following the installation of a new kitchen & aplliances,
replacement cooker cable, new lighting, switches, sockets etc etc a
friend is being told by the "fitter" that no certification is
required as the electrical works are "minor"..


They should request an electrical installation completion certificate as
a minimum.


Not if it is minor works, just a minor works certificate is required.


More than one minor works certificate will be required:-)


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