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On 13/09/2019 16:34, Stephen Cole wrote:
snip Folk like Brian measure a persons worth in pounds, shillings, and pence. Its a very bleak worldview and I genuinely pity him. I take it you're a bankrupt. |
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![]() "RJH" wrote in message ... On 12/09/2019 09:16, Brian Reay wrote: tim... wrote: "Stephen Cole" wrote in message ... Should Corbyn set it at a rate designed merely to redistribute wealth or should a more progressive level of taxation be applied to the robber baron class hoardings, coupled with the introduction of rent control legislation, in order to burst the massively over-inflated housing bubble and collapse house prices back to nearer the true value of a pile of bricks? Um, let me think? NO tim Hed do better to reform IHT. Well, abolish IHT, introduce LVT . . . Parents whose offspring have shown they are prepared to work etc, and have actually established themselves- bought a property etc should be subject 0 IHT when passing to children. Even the, effective, £1m or so currently in place isnt really high enough, it is easy to exceed that. (Fortunately, there are legal ways to avoid IHT even if you have more the £1m) £1m per child would be more reasonable. Conversely, if the off spring have obviously been sitting around waiting for another hand out, moaning about how tough life is etc, tax it at 100% and give it to the NHS. You have a very cynical view of people. Very, very, few people 'sit around waiting for hand-outs' out of choice. Thats bull****. Plenty wont do some jobs like fruit picking and dealing with fat bergs in sewers and choose to put their hands out for the dole instead. And plenty more refuse to move to where the work is too. No true socialist should complain at that. Reward the hard working, the first case, help the masses and dont reward the lazy in the second case.Of course, those who fall into the second group- remember you need to have bought a property- will scream it is unfair. It's now pretty well established that the combination of property ownership and inheritance is going to polarise the UK in some quite nasty ways over the next 30 years. That hasnt been established at all, just claimed, a different matter entirely. I had the 'opportunity' to take in some daytime TV for a couple of weeks recently. Apart from the obviously fleecing nature of the corporations behind it all, quite nice to see the variety of equity release products being pushed. If the government isn't going to do anything, spend it or give it away while you can. Even sillier than you usually manage and thats saying something. |
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On 13/09/2019 21:32, Fredxx wrote:
On 13/09/2019 16:34, Stephen Cole wrote: Folk like Brian measure a persons worth in pounds, shillings, and pence. Its a very bleak worldview and I genuinely pity him. I take it you're a bankrupt. Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from millionaires. Its a very bleak worldview and we genuinely pity him. -- Spike |
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On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 09:35:34 +1000
"Rod Speed" wrote: And plenty more refuse to move to where the work is too. Moving house is vastly more expensive now than it was forty years ago, thanks to the 'mansion' stamp duty now applying to most housing in large towns and cities. It's also a lot more difficult if you have school-age children. Do the arithmetic: it's worth moving house for a well-paid job, it isn't for anything less and particularly for around minimum wage, which most jobs now are. -- Joe |
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On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 07:39:41 +0000
Spike wrote: Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from millionaires. Not much to boast about these days. Many quite grotty parts of the world have an area of expensive housing, fully occupied. -- Joe |
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On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 09:35:34 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Thats bull****. Plenty wont do some jobs like fruit picking and dealing with fat bergs in sewers and choose to put their hands out for the dole instead. And plenty more refuse to move to where the work is too. You are not in the UK, so you don't know how things are there, you senile trolling piece of Ozzie ****! -- Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 85-year-old trolling senile cretin from Oz: https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ |
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On 14/09/2019 09:24, Joe wrote:
On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 07:39:41 +0000 Spike wrote: Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from millionaires. Not much to boast about these days. Many quite grotty parts of the world have an area of expensive housing, fully occupied. True enough. Many in the expensive areas worked hard to ensure they could afford to live in one of the expensive areas. Socialists expect it to be handed to them on a plate or sit back hoping to inherit ;-) |
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On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 10:11:13 +0100, Brian Reay wrote:
On 14/09/2019 09:24, Joe wrote: On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 07:39:41 +0000 Spike wrote: Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from millionaires. Not much to boast about these days. Many quite grotty parts of the world have an area of expensive housing, fully occupied. True enough. Many in the expensive areas worked hard to ensure they could afford to live in one of the expensive areas. Socialists expect it to be handed to them on a plate or sit back hoping to inherit ;-) You mean that capitalists eschew inheritance of property? That's nice, I suppose they donate it all then? AB |
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RJH wrote: Conversely, if the off spring have obviously been sitting around waiting for another hand out, moaning about how tough life is etc, tax it at 100% and give it to the NHS. You have a very cynical view of people. Very, very, few people 'sit around waiting for hand-outs' out of choice. But they do if your main source of information is the right wing gutter press. -- *What was the best thing before sliced bread? * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Spike wrote: Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from millionaires. Its a very bleak worldview and we genuinely pity him. That's very sad. I'm a millionaire as are most of my neighbours. Must be horrid living in the sticks. -- *You are validating my inherent mistrust of strangers Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Brian Reay wrote: Many in the expensive areas worked hard to ensure they could afford to live in one of the expensive areas. Socialists expect it to be handed to them on a plate or sit back hoping to inherit ;-) Does make one wonder how I'm a millionaire after being a life long socialist. Who inherited very little from my life long Tory parents. ;-) -- *Work like you don't need the money. Love like you've never been hurt. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:48:20 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote: In article , Spike wrote: Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from millionaires. Its a very bleak worldview and we genuinely pity him. That's very sad. I'm a millionaire as are most of my neighbours. Must be horrid living in the sticks. Well done, there are some out there that still appreciate that others can strive as hard and as is nearly always the case, a lot harder to live hand to mouth. It nausiates me to see people being hero worshipped for making millions for effectively moving peoples cash about or gambling, while the poor bloke making things and supporting the whole lot is ignored. AB |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Brian Reay wrote: Many in the expensive areas worked hard to ensure they could afford to live in one of the expensive areas. Socialists expect it to be handed to them on a plate or sit back hoping to inherit ;-) Does make one wonder how I'm a millionaire after being a life long socialist. Who inherited very little from my life long Tory parents. ;-) Caught one ! |
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Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp Esq wrote:
On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:48:20 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: In article , Spike wrote: Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from millionaires. Its a very bleak worldview and we genuinely pity him. That's very sad. I'm a millionaire as are most of my neighbours. Must be horrid living in the sticks. Well done, there are some out there that still appreciate that others can strive as hard and as is nearly always the case, a lot harder to live hand to mouth. It nausiates me to see people being hero worshipped for making millions for effectively moving peoples cash about or gambling, while the poor bloke making things and supporting the whole lot is ignored. AB ROTFL Do you think those who want to tear down the system know or care about the difference? They just want any easy life. |
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On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:20:53 +0000 (UTC), Brian Reay
wrote: Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp Esq wrote: On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:48:20 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: In article , Spike wrote: Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from millionaires. It?s a very bleak worldview and we genuinely pity him. That's very sad. I'm a millionaire as are most of my neighbours. Must be horrid living in the sticks. Well done, there are some out there that still appreciate that others can strive as hard and as is nearly always the case, a lot harder to live hand to mouth. It nausiates me to see people being hero worshipped for making millions for effectively moving peoples cash about or gambling, while the poor bloke making things and supporting the whole lot is ignored. AB ROTFL Do you think those who want to tear down the system know or care about the difference? They just want any easy life. Everyone wants an easy life. Is there some reason why it should not be an aim? I certainly want an easy life, sadly it does not yet appear to be around the corner. "Tearing down the system" sounds a trifle difficult. AB |
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Brian Reay wrote: It nausiates me to see people being hero worshipped for making millions for effectively moving peoples cash about or gambling, while the poor bloke making things and supporting the whole lot is ignored. AB ROTFL Do you think those who want to tear down the system know or care about the difference? They just want any easy life. You've just described the average Brexiteer. -- *I yell because I care Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Joe wrote
Rod Speed wrote And plenty more refuse to move to where the work is too. Moving house is vastly more expensive now than it was forty years ago, BULL**** when you are renting. thanks to the 'mansion' stamp duty now applying to most housing in large towns and cities. None of that involved when you are renting. It's also a lot more difficult if you have school-age children. That's bull**** too. Same as forty years ago. Do the arithmetic: it's worth moving house for a well-paid job, it isn't for anything less and particularly for around minimum wage, which most jobs now are. That's bull**** too. |
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![]() "Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp Esq" wrote in message ... On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:48:20 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: In article , Spike wrote: Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from millionaires. It's a very bleak worldview and we genuinely pity him. That's very sad. I'm a millionaire as are most of my neighbours. Must be horrid living in the sticks. Well done, there are some out there that still appreciate that others can strive as hard and as is nearly always the case, a lot harder to live hand to mouth. It nausiates me to see people being hero worshipped for making millions for effectively moving peoples cash about or gambling, while the poor bloke making things and supporting the whole lot is ignored. The don't support the whole lot and never did. |
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![]() "Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp Esq" wrote in message news ![]() On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:20:53 +0000 (UTC), Brian Reay wrote: Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp Esq wrote: On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:48:20 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: In article , Spike wrote: Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from millionaires. It?s a very bleak worldview and we genuinely pity him. That's very sad. I'm a millionaire as are most of my neighbours. Must be horrid living in the sticks. Well done, there are some out there that still appreciate that others can strive as hard and as is nearly always the case, a lot harder to live hand to mouth. It nausiates me to see people being hero worshipped for making millions for effectively moving peoples cash about or gambling, while the poor bloke making things and supporting the whole lot is ignored. AB ROTFL Do you think those who want to tear down 'the system' know or care about the difference? They just want any easy life. Everyone wants an easy life. Not everyone does. Quite a few prefer a much more interesting life working at a decent job. Is there some reason why it should not be an aim? Yep, someone has to do what needs to be done. I certainly want an easy life, But no one is actually stupid enough to hand it to you. sadly it does not yet appear to be around the corner. Then do the decent thing and hang yourself. |
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On 14/09/2019 10:11, Brian Reay wrote:
On 14/09/2019 09:24, Joe wrote: On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 07:39:41 +0000 Spike wrote: Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from millionaires. Not much to boast about these days. Many quite grotty parts of the world have an area of expensive housing, fully occupied. True enough. Many in the expensive areas worked hard to ensure they could afford to live in one of the expensive areas. Socialists expect it to be handed to them on a plate or sit back hoping to inherit ;-) just like the big farmer.... |
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On Sun, 15 Sep 2019 00:48:38 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH trolling senile Ozzietard's latest troll**** 00:48??? LOL So I was right, you didn't stay up until that time, you ALREADY got out of bed, AGAIN, to continue with your insipid trolling without too long a break! LMAO -- Bod addressing abnormal senile quarreller Rot: "Do you practice arguing with yourself in an empty room?" MID: |
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On Sun, 15 Sep 2019 00:43:34 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: The don't support the whole lot and never did. Hey, senile Rodent, aren't you yet another one of those MANY senile Usenet millionaires who can't do ANYTHING with all their money other than troll on Usenet? YEAR after YEAR? I do remember you told us repeatedly that you got "money to burn"! LOL -- Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 85-year-old trolling senile cretin from Oz: https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ |
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On Sun, 15 Sep 2019 00:25:26 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH troll**** 00:25 am in Australia? Now THAT's a new record, even for you trolling piece of senile Australian ****! LOL -- Kerr-Mudd,John addressing senile Rot: "Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)" MID: |
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On 14/09/2019 16:25, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 14/09/2019 10:11, Brian Reay wrote: On 14/09/2019 09:24, Joe wrote: On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 07:39:41 +0000 Spike wrote: Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from millionaires. Not much to boast about these days. Many quite grotty parts of the world have an area of expensive housing, fully occupied. True enough. Many in the expensive areas worked hard to ensure they could afford to live in one of the expensive areas. Socialists expect it to be handed to them on a plate or sit back hoping to inherit ;-) just like the big farmer.... You seem to envy him Jim, you always mention him. A bit like that callsign you missed out on. I'm no issue with those who inherit, good luck to them. It is hypocrites I've a problem with- Socialists who hold their hand out expecting someone to fill it with money. |
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Rod Speed wrote:
"Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp Esq" wrote in message news ![]() On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:20:53 +0000 (UTC), Brian Reay wrote: Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp Esq wrote: On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:48:20 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: In article , Spike wrote: Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from millionaires. It?s a very bleak worldview and we genuinely pity him. That's very sad. I'm a millionaire as are most of my neighbours. Must be horrid living in the sticks. Well done, there are some out there that still appreciate that others can strive as hard and as is nearly always the case, a lot harder to live hand to mouth. It nausiates me to see people being hero worshipped for making millions for effectively moving peoples cash about or gambling, while the poor bloke making things and supporting the whole lot is ignored. AB ROTFL Do you think those who want to tear down 'the system' know or care about the difference? They just want any easy life. Everyone wants an easy life. Not everyone does. Quite a few prefer a much more interesting life working at a decent job. But that *is* an easy life! It may be hard work, but it is much easier than working in a factory or being on the dole. -- Roger Hayter |
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On 14/09/2019 11:48, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Spike wrote: Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from millionaires. Its a very bleak worldview and we genuinely pity him. That's very sad. I'm a millionaire as are most of my neighbours. Must be horrid living in the sticks. Lots and lots of people are millionaires if you include the values of their property. Bill |
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On 14/09/2019 00:35, Rod Speed wrote:
"RJH" wrote in message ... On 12/09/2019 09:16, Brian Reay wrote: tim... wrote: "Stephen Cole" wrote in message ... Should Corbyn set it at a rate designed merely to redistribute wealth or should a more progressive level of taxation be applied to the robber baron class hoardings, coupled with the introduction of rent control legislation, in order to burst the massively over-inflated housing bubble and collapse house prices back to nearer the true value of a pile of bricks? Um, let me think? NO tim Hed do better to reform IHT. Well, abolish IHT, introduce LVT . . . Parents whose offspring have shown they are prepared to work etc, and have actually established themselves- bought a property etc should be subject 0 IHT when passing to children. Even the, effective, £1m or so currently in place isnt really high enough, it is easy to exceed that. (Fortunately, there are legal ways to avoid IHT even if you have more the £1m) £1m per child would be more reasonable. Conversely, if the off spring have obviously been sitting around waiting for another hand out, moaning about how tough life is etc, tax it at 100% and give it to the NHS. You have a very cynical view of people. Very, very, few people 'sit around waiting for hand-outs' out of choice. Thats bull****. Plenty wont do some jobs like fruit picking and dealing with fat bergs in sewers and choose to put their hands out for the dole instead. Well, that's nonsense. It's not 'won't', it's 'can't'. And that is in large part due to housing . . . And plenty more refuse to move to where the work is too. No true socialist should complain at that. Reward the hard working, the first case, help the masses and dont reward the lazy in the second case.Of course, those who fall into the second group- remember you need to have bought a property- will scream it is unfair. It's now pretty well established that the combination of property ownership and inheritance is going to polarise the UK in some quite nasty ways over the next 30 years. That hasnt been established at all, just claimed, a different matter entirely. Claimed and evidenced. Have a look at the work of Danny Dorling for example. I had the 'opportunity' to take in some daytime TV for a couple of weeks recently. Apart from the obviously fleecing nature of the corporations behind it all, quite nice to see the variety of equity release products being pushed. If the government isn't going to do anything, spend it or give it away while you can. Even sillier than you usually manage and thats saying something. Indeed. -- Cheers, Rob |
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On 14/09/2019 15:25, Rod Speed wrote:
Joe wrote Rod Speed wrote And plenty more refuse to move to where the work is too. Moving house is vastly more expensive now than it was forty years ago, BULL**** when you are renting. Only 36% rent, and about half of those are in social housing. You are more likely to be 'workless' than in work if you own outright than privately rent. Workless: Mortgage 1.3%, own outright 13.1%, private rent 9.7%, council/HA 26.7% thanks to the 'mansion' stamp duty now applying to most housing in large towns and cities. None of that involved when you are renting. It's also a lot more difficult if you have school-age children. That's bull**** too. Same as forty years ago. Do the arithmetic: it's worth moving house for a well-paid job, it isn't for anything less and particularly for around minimum wage, which most jobs now are. That's bull**** too. Transactions costs are notoriously high in the UK. Is there any possibility of you providing an ounce of reasoning? -- Cheers, Rob |
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![]() "Roger Hayter" wrote in message ... Rod Speed wrote: "Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp Esq" wrote in message news ![]() On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:20:53 +0000 (UTC), Brian Reay wrote: Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp Esq wrote: On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:48:20 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: In article , Spike wrote: Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from millionaires. It?s a very bleak worldview and we genuinely pity him. That's very sad. I'm a millionaire as are most of my neighbours. Must be horrid living in the sticks. Well done, there are some out there that still appreciate that others can strive as hard and as is nearly always the case, a lot harder to live hand to mouth. It nausiates me to see people being hero worshipped for making millions for effectively moving peoples cash about or gambling, while the poor bloke making things and supporting the whole lot is ignored. AB ROTFL Do you think those who want to tear down 'the system' know or care about the difference? They just want any easy life. Everyone wants an easy life. Not everyone does. Quite a few prefer a much more interesting life working at a decent job. But that *is* an easy life! It may be hard work, but it is much easier than working in a factory or being on the dole. Much easier for some getting a handout from the state and spending your time doing what you prefer to do like fishing etc. |
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RJH wrote in message
... On 14/09/2019 00:35, Rod Speed wrote: "RJH" wrote in message ... On 12/09/2019 09:16, Brian Reay wrote: tim... wrote: "Stephen Cole" wrote in message ... Should Corbyn set it at a rate designed merely to redistribute wealth or should a more progressive level of taxation be applied to the robber baron class hoardings, coupled with the introduction of rent control legislation, in order to burst the massively over-inflated housing bubble and collapse house prices back to nearer the true value of a pile of bricks? Um, let me think? NO tim Hed do better to reform IHT. Well, abolish IHT, introduce LVT . . . Parents whose offspring have shown they are prepared to work etc, and have actually established themselves- bought a property etc should be subject 0 IHT when passing to children. Even the, effective, £1m or so currently in place isnt really high enough, it is easy to exceed that. (Fortunately, there are legal ways to avoid IHT even if you have more the £1m) £1m per child would be more reasonable. Conversely, if the off spring have obviously been sitting around waiting for another hand out, moaning about how tough life is etc, tax it at 100% and give it to the NHS. You have a very cynical view of people. Very, very, few people 'sit around waiting for hand-outs' out of choice. Thats bull****. Plenty wont do some jobs like fruit picking and dealing with fat bergs in sewers and choose to put their hands out for the dole instead. Well, that's nonsense. It's not 'won't', it's 'can't'. Thats bull**** with the cant with fruit picking and pruning etc. And that is in large part due to housing . . . Even sillier than you usually manage and thats saying something. Mate of mine who ended up here used to drive a small mini bus that was used to pick up the fruit pickers that did the work on his dads operation in the 50s. And plenty more refuse to move to where the work is too. No true socialist should complain at that. Reward the hard working, the first case, help the masses and dont reward the lazy in the second case.Of course, those who fall into the second group- remember you need to have bought a property- will scream it is unfair. It's now pretty well established that the combination of property ownership and inheritance is going to polarise the UK in some quite nasty ways over the next 30 years. That hasnt been established at all, just claimed, a different matter entirely. Claimed and evidenced. Bull**** with the evidenced. Have a look at the work of Danny Dorling for example. Have a look at what actually happens over the next 30 years., I had the 'opportunity' to take in some daytime TV for a couple of weeks recently. Apart from the obviously fleecing nature of the corporations behind it all, quite nice to see the variety of equity release products being pushed. If the government isn't going to do anything, spend it or give it away while you can. Even sillier than you usually manage and thats saying something. Indeed. |
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![]() "RJH" wrote in message ... On 14/09/2019 15:25, Rod Speed wrote: Joe wrote Rod Speed wrote And plenty more refuse to move to where the work is too. Moving house is vastly more expensive now than it was forty years ago, BULL**** when you are renting. Only 36% rent, A FAR higher percentage who are receiving the dole instead of working do. and about half of those are in social housing. You are more likely to be 'workless' than in work if you own outright than privately rent. **** all of those who choose not to work own the property they are living in. Workless: Mortgage 1.3%, own outright 13.1%, Like I said, **** all. private rent 9.7%, council/HA 26.7% Those numbers dont total 100% thanks to the 'mansion' stamp duty now applying to most housing in large towns and cities. None of that involved when you are renting. It's also a lot more difficult if you have school-age children. That's bull**** too. Same as forty years ago. Do the arithmetic: it's worth moving house for a well-paid job, it isn't for anything less and particularly for around minimum wage, which most jobs now are. That's bull**** too. Transactions costs are notoriously high in the UK. Waffle. It doesnt cost that much to move when renting. Is there any possibility of you providing an ounce of reasoning? Thats flagrantly dishonest. |
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On Sun, 15 Sep 2019 08:04:51 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH senile Ozzietard's latest troll**** **** off from normally evolved humans' ngs, you trolling piece of Ozzie ****! -- about senile Rot Speed: "This is like having a conversation with someone with brain damage." MID: |
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On Sun, 15 Sep 2019 08:23:12 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Thats flagrantly dishonest. That's flagrant trolling on your part again, you trolling piece of senile Ozzie ****! -- Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 85-year-old trolling senile cretin from Oz: https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ |
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On Sun, 15 Sep 2019 08:15:39 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Have a look at what actually happens over the next 30 years., He should have a look at your website from 2007 that was dedicated to your abnormal trolling you 85-year-old trolling senile pest! -- Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 85-year-old trolling senile cretin from Oz: https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ |
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On 14/09/2019 12:11, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp Esq wrote:
On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:48:20 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: In article , Spike wrote: Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from millionaires. Its a very bleak worldview and we genuinely pity him. That's very sad. I'm a millionaire as are most of my neighbours. Must be horrid living in the sticks. Well done, there are some out there that still appreciate that others can strive as hard and as is nearly always the case, a lot harder to live hand to mouth. It nausiates me to see people being hero worshipped for making millions for effectively moving peoples cash about or gambling, while the poor bloke making things and supporting the whole lot is ignored. AB In your context, what does "effectively" mean? It seems to mean "not at all, but I feel like saying so". |
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Bill Wright wrote: On 14/09/2019 11:48, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Spike wrote: Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from millionaires. Its a very bleak worldview and we genuinely pity him. That's very sad. I'm a millionaire as are most of my neighbours. Must be horrid living in the sticks. Lots and lots of people are millionaires if you include the values of their property. How else would you calculate it, Bill? -- *Letting a cat out of the bag is easier than putting it back in * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Brian Reay wrote: It is hypocrites I've a problem with- Socialists who hold their hand out expecting someone to fill it with money. It's OK anyone else to do it, then? -- *'ome is where you 'ang your @ * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 14/09/2019 23:41, JNugent wrote:
On 14/09/2019 12:11, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp Esq wrote: On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:48:20 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: In article , ** Spike wrote: Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY is quite concerned about other people's money - he once bragged that he lives only five minutes walk from millionaires. Its a very bleak worldview and we genuinely pity him. That's very sad. I'm a millionaire as are most of my neighbours. Must be horrid living in the sticks. Well done, there are some out there that still appreciate that others can strive as hard and as is nearly always the case, a lot harder to live hand to mouth. It nausiates me to see people being hero worshipped for making millions for effectively moving peoples cash about or gambling, while the poor bloke making things and supporting the whole lot is ignored. AB In your context, what does "effectively" mean? Investment fund manager? It seems to mean "not at all, but I feel like saying so". -- New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in someone else's pocket. |
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