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Just 11 fabulous 5 star reviews. https://www.amazon.co.uk/product-rev...ews-filter-bar Don't know why so many of the big name versions are being sold without battery or charger. -- Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On 11/09/2019 14:43, Mike Halmarack wrote:
Just 11 fabulous 5 star reviews. https://www.amazon.co.uk/product-rev...ews-filter-bar Don't know why so many of the big name versions are being sold without battery or charger. Personally I wouldn't touch it. Now, I only buy stuff where I can share batteries and am confident they will stay available for some time. I run on Makita 14.4 and 18V Nicads and you can still get clone replacements, in fact you can now get NiMH too which charge from the same charger. Just bought my first Lidl 20 volt tool plus battery and charger. Naked with batteries and chargers separate is a sales strategy to suit buyers like me. |
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On 11/09/2019 14:55, newshound wrote:
On 11/09/2019 14:43, Mike Halmarack wrote: Just 11 fabulous 5 star reviews. https://www.amazon.co.uk/product-rev...ews-filter-bar Don't know why so many of the big name versions are being sold without battery or charger. Personally I wouldn't touch it. Now, I only buy stuff where I can share batteries and am confident they will stay available for some time. I run on Makita 14.4 and 18V Nicads and you can still get clone replacements, in fact you can now get NiMH too which charge from the same charger. Just bought my first Lidl 20 volt tool plus battery and charger. Naked with batteries and chargers separate is a sales strategy to suit buyers like me. And as an aside, I *really* don't like the look of the reviews on that product. I would be quite suspicious that they were fake. |
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It's a sponsored ad so the reviews are entirely untrustworthy.
Tim |
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On 11/09/2019 14:57, newshound wrote:
And as an aside, I *really* don't like the look of the reviews on that product. I would be quite suspicious that they were fake. I am sure they are fake. Could be wrong of course... Bill |
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On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 14:55:32 +0100, newshound
wrote: On 11/09/2019 14:43, Mike Halmarack wrote: Just 11 fabulous 5 star reviews. https://www.amazon.co.uk/product-rev...ews-filter-bar Don't know why so many of the big name versions are being sold without battery or charger. Personally I wouldn't touch it. Now, I only buy stuff where I can share batteries and am confident they will stay available for some time. I run on Makita 14.4 and 18V Nicads and you can still get clone replacements, in fact you can now get NiMH too which charge from the same charger. Just bought my first Lidl 20 volt tool plus battery and charger. Naked with batteries and chargers separate is a sales strategy to suit buyers like me. If I were to buy a Makita cordless jigsaw sans battery and charger, what would be my options for the battery and charger? Do you mean that Lidl chargers and batteries would fit the bill? -- Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 07:04:32 -0700 (PDT), "Tim+"
wrote: It's a sponsored ad so the reviews are entirely untrustworthy. Tim That was certainly my impression, especially as each review included a video. Thanks for the input. -- Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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newshound expressed precisely :
Just bought my first Lidl 20 volt tool plus battery and charger. Those come without a battery and charger too. I think the reasoning is, some will already have those for other units in their range, so sell those items separately, then you can buy if needed. |
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On 11/09/2019 15:04, Tim+ wrote:
It's a sponsored ad so the reviews are entirely untrustworthy. Tim The first review is written by one of Amazons 'Top 1000 reviewers' no less: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/profile/amzn1.account.AFBWNS7Z5FDJETF4ZNDKTOGK63QA/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_gw_btm?ie=UTF8 Just read his other reviews - goes to show that Amazon sells lots of Amazing and Awesome products :) |
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On 11/09/2019 17:07, Andrew May wrote:
On 11/09/2019 15:04, Tim+ wrote: It's a sponsored ad so the reviews are entirely untrustworthy. Tim The first review is written by one of Amazons 'Top 1000 reviewers' no less: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/profile/amzn1.account.AFBWNS7Z5FDJETF4ZNDKTOGK63QA/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_gw_btm?ie=UTF8 Just read his other reviews - goes to show that Amazon sells lots of Amazing and Awesome products :) Oh, and he has bought twelve pairs of earbuds of various types since May. All of which he rated five stars. |
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"Andrew May" wrote in message ... On 11/09/2019 17:07, Andrew May wrote: On 11/09/2019 15:04, Tim+ wrote: It's a sponsored ad so the reviews are entirely untrustworthy. Tim The first review is written by one of Amazons 'Top 1000 reviewers' no less: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/profile/amzn1.account.AFBWNS7Z5FDJETF4ZNDKTOGK63QA/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_gw_btm?ie=UTF8 Just read his other reviews - goes to show that Amazon sells lots of Amazing and Awesome products :) Oh, and he has bought twelve pairs of earbuds of various types since May. All of which he rated five stars. Presumably the sellers pay him for the reviews. |
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On 11/09/2019 14:43, Mike Halmarack wrote:
Just 11 fabulous 5 star reviews. https://www.amazon.co.uk/product-rev...ews-filter-bar Don't know why so many of the big name versions are being sold without battery or charger. Because you may already have batteries and a charger with other compatible equipment. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On 11/09/2019 17:07, Andrew May wrote:
On 11/09/2019 15:04, Tim+ wrote: It's a sponsored ad so the reviews are entirely untrustworthy. Tim The first review is written by one of Amazons 'Top 1000 reviewers' no less: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/profile/amzn1.account.AFBWNS7Z5FDJETF4ZNDKTOGK63QA/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_gw_btm?ie=UTF8 Just read his other reviews - goes to show that Amazon sells lots of Amazing and Awesome products :) He seems to review at least 1 product every day on Amazon and on some days half a dozen products. Never less than 5 starts. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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Mike Halmarack wrote:
Don't know why so many of the big name versions are being sold without battery or charger. Because once you "buy in" to a given manufacturer's cordless tools, you don't generally want an extra battery and charger every time you buy another tool to add to the collection ... I chose 18V Makita several years ago, got 3x 3.0Ah batteries and a charger with a drill/impact combo set and have bought several "bare" tools since, only recently when I purchased a 36V tool did I buy a pair of 5.0Ah batteries along with a dual charger. |
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alan_m wrote: On 11/09/2019 14:43, Mike Halmarack wrote: Just 11 fabulous 5 star reviews. https://www.amazon.co.uk/product-rev...ews-filter-bar Don't know why so many of the big name versions are being sold without battery or charger. Because you may already have batteries and a charger with other compatible equipment. as in my case using Ryobi One+: 2 drills, Circular saw, jig saw, stapler & radio. 1 mains charger & one 12v charger (to run off car battery). -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
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Jim K... submitted this idea :
Handily it also means the batteries aren't covered by the usual lidl 3 year guarantee.... Batteries were always excepted anyway.. |
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Harry Bloomfield, Esq. Wrote in
message: newshound expressed precisely : Just bought my first Lidl 20 volt tool plus battery and charger. Those come without a battery and charger too. I think the reasoning is, some will already have those for other units in their range, so sell those items separately, then you can buy if needed. Handily it also means the batteries aren't covered by the usual lidl 3 year guarantee.... -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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Andy Burns Wrote in message:
Mike Halmarack wrote: Don't know why so many of the big name versions are being sold without battery or charger. Because once you "buy in" to a given manufacturer's cordless tools, you don't generally want an extra battery and charger every time you buy another tool to add to the collection ... I chose 18V Makita several years ago, got 3x 3.0Ah batteries and a charger with a drill/impact combo set and have bought several "bare" tools since, only recently when I purchased a 36V tool did I buy a pair of 5.0Ah batteries along with a dual charger. Snap! (But already had 2 chargers) 36v cowhorn strimmer for me! What did you get in 36v? -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 11/09/2019 14:43, Mike Halmarack wrote:
Just 11 fabulous 5 star reviews. https://www.amazon.co.uk/product-rev...ews-filter-bar Look pretty suspect - only 5 reviews and all video? Don't know why so many of the big name versions are being sold without battery or charger. Because once you have bought into a "system" of batteries and chargers, its often nice to be able to add tools at a much lower cost without needing to duplicate batteries and chargers that you already have. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 11/09/2019 15:26, Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 14:55:32 +0100, newshound wrote: On 11/09/2019 14:43, Mike Halmarack wrote: Just 11 fabulous 5 star reviews. https://www.amazon.co.uk/product-rev...ews-filter-bar Don't know why so many of the big name versions are being sold without battery or charger. Personally I wouldn't touch it. Now, I only buy stuff where I can share batteries and am confident they will stay available for some time. I run on Makita 14.4 and 18V Nicads and you can still get clone replacements, in fact you can now get NiMH too which charge from the same charger. Just bought my first Lidl 20 volt tool plus battery and charger. Naked with batteries and chargers separate is a sales strategy to suit buyers like me. If I were to buy a Makita cordless jigsaw sans battery and charger, what would be my options for the battery and charger? You would need to buy some... In many cases when starting with cordless tools you would probably buy the first couple as complete kits with batteries and chargers. Then you could add new tools as required as "bare" tools, and use the existing batteries and chargers you have. Do you mean that Lidl chargers and batteries would fit the bill? No, they will only work for Lidl tools... So pick a brand that has all the tools you might ever need, and start there. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 11/09/2019 20:37, John Rumm wrote:
On 11/09/2019 15:26, Mike Halmarack wrote: On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 14:55:32 +0100, newshound wrote: On 11/09/2019 14:43, Mike Halmarack wrote: Just 11 fabulous 5 star reviews. https://www.amazon.co.uk/product-rev...ews-filter-bar Don't know why so many of the big name versions are being sold without battery or charger. Personally I wouldn't touch it. Now, I only buy stuff where I can share batteries and am confident they will stay available for some time. I run on Makita 14.4 and 18V Nicads and you can still get clone replacements, in fact you can now get NiMH too which charge from the same charger. Just bought my first Lidl 20 volt tool plus battery and charger. Naked with batteries and chargers separate is a sales strategy to suit buyers like me. If I were to buy a Makita cordless jigsaw sans battery and charger, what would be my options for the battery and charger? You would need to buy some... In many cases when starting with cordless tools you would probably buy the first couple as complete kits with batteries and chargers. Then you could add new tools as required as "bare" tools, and use the existing batteries and chargers you have. Do you mean that Lidl chargers and batteries would fit the bill? No, they will only work for Lidl tools... So pick a brand that has all the tools you might ever need, and start there. Correct. My Makitas are now quite old but since they seem to be indestructible it makes more sense just to replace batteries until they finally die. These days I am a light user (but something of a collector of toys). I've mostly been happy with my non-cordless Lidl tools and they are producing an increasing number of cordless tools. Note that they have two different battery options. So when they had a relatively cheap cordless angle grinder (something on my wish list for a while) I bought one, plus charger and a couple of batteries. I passed on a chainsaw on a stick the other day, but might get a cordless jigsaw next time they have one. |
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On 11/09/2019 17:07, Andrew May wrote:
On 11/09/2019 15:04, Tim+ wrote: It's a sponsored ad so the reviews are entirely untrustworthy. Tim The first review is written by one of Amazons 'Top 1000 reviewers' no less: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/profile/amzn1.account.AFBWNS7Z5FDJETF4ZNDKTOGK63QA/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_gw_btm?ie=UTF8 Just read his other reviews - goes to show that Amazon sells lots of Amazing and Awesome products :) Perhaps Amazon are kindly flagging up to us that "Top 1000 reviewers" may well not be what they seem. Fake reviews are becoming more of a problem. But you can usually get the sense of a product by looking at a reasonable number. People who mention a slightly negative aspect are likely to be genuine. |
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On 11/09/2019 20:34, John Rumm wrote:
On 11/09/2019 14:43, Mike Halmarack wrote: Just 11 fabulous 5 star reviews. https://www.amazon.co.uk/product-rev...ews-filter-bar Look pretty suspect - only 5 reviews and all video? I hadn't spotted that and I barely looked at the reviews before deciding I didn't like them, I was mainly commenting that I simply would not buy a no-name cordless because of long term battery support. (I know that most things use sub-c cells and, in the old days, I re-celled a few. But now that there are half a dozen or so "big names" who have been around for a long time, and whose reputation is likely to live or die around batteries, I reckon it is worth sticking with one of them). |
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On 11/09/2019 20:52, newshound wrote:
Correct. My Makitas are now quite old but since they seem to be indestructible it makes more sense just to replace batteries until they finally die. Unfortunately Makita have replaced the battery technology (different physical connection and battery protection circuits) since I purchased my Makita cordless drill some years ago. Original replacement batteries or cloned compatibles seem to be very much more expensive than the latest batteries for their newer cordless tools. However as I already have two of the older style of batteries, with charger, I recently purchased a new cordless Makita impact driver (bare) for not much money. The driver was "old stock" being sold at a discount. I recently borrowed the current models of a Makita cordless SDS drill and angle grinder with 4Ahr batteries. I was impressed with the performance of both and they compared favourably with my older corded models. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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Tim+ wrote:
It's a sponsored ad so the reviews are entirely untrustworthy. Tim As a matter of (genuine) interest, how do you tell that - does it say it somewhere I've missed? -- Roger Hayter |
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On Wednesday, 11 September 2019 14:43:55 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote:
Just 11 fabulous 5 star reviews. https://www.amazon.co.uk/product-rev...ews-filter-bar Positive reviews are worthless, often all fake. Only way to learn anything is look at the -ve reviews. NT |
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Roger Hayter wrote:
Tim+ wrote: It's a sponsored ad so the reviews are entirely untrustworthy. Tim As a matter of (genuine) interest, how do you tell that - does it say it somewhere I've missed? Rather than following that link I just searched amazon for cordless jigsaws. It appeared at the top of the page with sponsored next to it. Amazon is awash with sponsored no-name products all with glowing 5 star reviews. Given that they are never household names you have to ask yourself how theyve all go 5 star reviews so quickly. Simple answer is that the sellers have paid for the ad AND the reviews. Its clearly very lucrative. Tim -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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On Wednesday, 11 September 2019 14:43:55 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote:
Just 11 fabulous 5 star reviews. https://www.amazon.co.uk/product-rev...ews-filter-bar Don't know why so many of the big name versions are being sold without battery or charger. I have several battery power tools - but I don't think I'd bother with a jigsaw. I've got a fairly inexpensive mains one and for my frequency of use, a cordless would be litle to no benefit. Also, would be heavier. Jigsaw is something that is sometimes essential but, much of the time, I try to avoid. |
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On 12/09/2019 05:51, wrote:
On Wednesday, 11 September 2019 14:43:55 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote: Just 11 fabulous 5 star reviews. https://www.amazon.co.uk/product-rev...ews-filter-bar Positive reviews are worthless, often all fake. Only way to learn anything is look at the -ve reviews. They are often fake too. They are also done by people that don't have a clue about how to use the product. Then there are the really odd one like "product doesn't work.. 5 stars" |
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Tim+ wrote:
Roger Hayter wrote: Tim+ wrote: It's a sponsored ad so the reviews are entirely untrustworthy. Tim As a matter of (genuine) interest, how do you tell that - does it say it somewhere I've missed? Rather than following that link I just searched amazon for cordless jigsaws. It appeared at the top of the page with "sponsored" next to it. Amazon is awash with sponsored no-name products all with glowing 5 star reviews. Given that they are never household names you have to ask yourself how they've all go 5 star reviews so quickly. Simple answer is that the sellers have paid for the ad AND the reviews. It's clearly very lucrative. Tim Thanks. While I had noticed the unknown name products I hadn't spotted the "sponsorship" system. -- Roger Hayter |
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On 11/09/2019 19:26, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Jim K... submitted this idea : Handily it also means the batteries aren't covered by the usual *lidl 3 year guarantee.... Batteries were always excepted anyway.. The battery in my HP laptop was out of warranty but they replaced it, no questions asked. This was two weeks ago. I gave them 10 out of 10. I suppose I could have scared them when I told them it was swelling up but still passed diagnostics. They didn't even question why I. Had dismantled the laptop. Funny that they collected it and when it came back they had also replaced the screen, keyboard and top because of hinge issues which I hadn't noticed. |
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On 11/09/2019 15:04, Tim+ wrote:
It's a sponsored ad so the reviews are entirely untrustworthy. Tim I have been offered free products for five star reviews. I have only done one and it deserved five stars. |
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dennis@home submitted this idea :
The battery in my HP laptop was out of warranty but they replaced it, no questions asked. This was two weeks ago. I gave them 10 out of 10. A few years ago now, but I had a problem where I needed just a replacement for a damaged connector on an HP laptop motherboard. HP flew a near complete faulty laptop from the US, free of cost, for me to cannibalise for parts. |
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On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 23:44:30 -0700 (PDT), polygonum_on_google
wrote: On Wednesday, 11 September 2019 14:43:55 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote: Just 11 fabulous 5 star reviews. https://www.amazon.co.uk/product-rev...ews-filter-bar Don't know why so many of the big name versions are being sold without battery or charger. I have several battery power tools - but I don't think I'd bother with a jigsaw. I've got a fairly inexpensive mains one and for my frequency of use, a cordless would be litle to no benefit. Also, would be heavier. Jigsaw is something that is sometimes essential but, much of the time, I try to avoid. Looking back, it seems quite foolhardy that I spent so many years cutting wood with hand saws. I never did like the sound of machines much. I'd think nothing (at the time) of ripping 1 1/2" Oak or Elm boards into 6 or 10 foot planks. I didn't live in a cardboard box...etc. Without a doubt such activities played a major part in producing the physique that I enjoy today, which in its turn lead to the ultimatum that had me retiring and transporting most of my handtools to Canada and leaving them there. In good hands of course. The finishing touch was a garage sale that cleared out the remainder. Now, due to nostalgia and a garage without electricity, I'm trying to convince myself that a good quality, battery powered jigsaw will provide all my sawing wants, without incurring the wrath of my good lady wife if she decides that I'm regressing into my previous state. -- Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On 11/09/2019 17:51, jeikppkywk wrote:
"Andrew May" wrote in message ... On 11/09/2019 17:07, Andrew May wrote: On 11/09/2019 15:04, Tim+ wrote: It's a sponsored ad so the reviews are entirely untrustworthy. Tim The first review is written by one of Amazons 'Top 1000 reviewers' no less: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/profile/amzn1.account.AFBWNS7Z5FDJETF4ZNDKTOGK63QA/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_gw_btm?ie=UTF8 Just read his other reviews - goes to show that Amazon sells lots of Amazing and Awesome products :) Oh, and he has bought twelve pairs of earbuds of various types since May. All of which he rated five stars. Presumably the sellers pay him for the reviews. IS it why people in the UK receive deliveries of pointless silly items that they haven't ordered (or been asked to pay for) ?. |
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On Thursday, 12 September 2019 13:32:59 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote:
Now, due to nostalgia and a garage without electricity, I'm trying to convince myself that a good quality, battery powered jigsaw will provide all my sawing wants, not a hope in hell. The closest you'll get to a universal saw is a handheld mains circular saw. NT |
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On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 07:07:45 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Thursday, 12 September 2019 13:32:59 UTC+1, Mike Halmarack wrote: Now, due to nostalgia and a garage without electricity, I'm trying to convince myself that a good quality, battery powered jigsaw will provide all my sawing wants, not a hope in hell. The closest you'll get to a universal saw is a handheld mains circular saw. NT Strange you should say that. I recently lost my Opinel in the move. I've already found that I can do everything I want these days with a jigsaw, albeit slowly. The difference is that I need a battery powered model, because my garage has no electric supply. -- Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On 11/09/2019 21:23, alan_m wrote:
On 11/09/2019 20:52, newshound wrote: Correct. My Makitas are now quite old but since they seem to be indestructible it makes more sense just to replace batteries until they finally die. Unfortunately Makita have replaced the battery technology (different physical connection and battery protection circuits) since I purchased my Makita cordless drill some years ago. Do you mean the NiCads? Original replacement batteries or cloned compatibles seem to be very much more expensive than the latest batteries for their newer cordless tools. Ebay item 202625450878, two 14.4 3AH NiMH for £24 Ebay item 123820818811, two 18V 3AH NiMH for £28 |
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