Topped the car up with £60 of diesel, went to counter to Applepay and
it wouldn't accept it if more than £30, I have never used it for fuel
before, but where I have spent more than £30 it has been accepted. Is
this a filling station thing?

On 05/09/2019 17:50, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Topped the car up with £60 of diesel, went to counter to Applepay and it
wouldn't accept it if more than £30, I have never used it for fuel
before, but where I have spent more than £30 it has been accepted. Is
this a filling station thing?

An irritating Esso thing certainly, Sainsbury's filling stations take
payments over £30.

My Google pay has done a £1000 at the dentist. I have no idea what the
actual limit from Google/my bank is.

Pancho used his keyboard to write :
An irritating Esso thing certainly, Sainsbury's filling stations take
payments over £30.

No, local Tesco.

On 05/09/2019 19:06, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Pancho used his keyboard to write :
An irritating Esso thing certainly, Sainsbury's filling stations take
payments over £30.

No, local Tesco.

The Esso stations I was thinking of also had a Tesco local attached, so
maybe it is a Tesco thing?

Do Tesco accept £30 aplle pay in normal food stores.

Maybe you can get it raised by your bank then. All I know is what I said in
my last message, but then, I'm a person without a credit history,
apparently!
Brian

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On 05/09/2019 17:50, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Topped the car up with £60 of diesel, went to counter to Applepay and it
wouldn't accept it if more than £30, I have never used it for fuel
before, but where I have spent more than £30 it has been accepted. Is
this a filling station thing?

An irritating Esso thing certainly, Sainsbury's filling stations take
payments over £30.

My Google pay has done a £1000 at the dentist. I have no idea what the
actual limit from Google/my bank is.

On 06/09/2019 08:05, Brian Gaff wrote:
Maybe you can get it raised by your bank then. All I know is what I said in
my last message, but then, I'm a person without a credit history,
apparently!

My android pay is linked to a debit card so there isn't credit risk.

Many older people have limited credit history. I'm not sure of exact
details but AIUI bank accounts opened in the last 10-20 years tend to
expose data to credit reference agencies by default where as accounts
opened before this do not.

Pancho submitted this idea :
My android pay is linked to a debit card so there isn't credit risk.

I have three cards on the Iphone, credit and 2x debits. I tried the
default credit card, which was rejected for Applepay.

I am not sure which actual physical card I used to make the payment. So
worth trying Applepay again, but selecting a debit card?

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Pancho submitted this idea :
My android pay is linked to a debit card so there isn't credit risk.

I have three cards on the Iphone, credit and 2x debits. I tried the
default credit card, which was rejected for Applepay.

I am not sure which actual physical card I used to make the payment. So
worth trying Applepay again, but selecting a debit card?

You didn't say why it wasn't accepted, whether the person
said that or your phone said that when you tried to make
the payment and where you got the story that the problem
was because the transaction was over 30uk pounds

If the person said that, they may have been confused.

Its unlikely that the phone said that, normally with
transactions that are higher than the contactless
limit it just asks for the card PIN and you enter
that on the payment terminal, not on the phone.

Its certainly worth trying the other cards, there
have been some examples of the card issuer
not setting up the card data fields properly
so it doesn't work properly contactless or
with applepay.

On 05/09/2019 17:50, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Topped the car up with £60 of diesel, went to counter to Applepay and it
wouldn't accept it if more than £30, I have never used it for fuel
before, but where I have spent more than £30 it has been accepted. Is
this a filling station thing?

There was something on the radio (R4 I suspect) about this awhile back.
As I recall, there was a £30 limit, which has been removed, but
retailers need to update their terminals.

Having said that, my recollection is that the programme was some time
back - ie probably at least a year.

I don't use Apple pay, so it isn't a problem I've encounter.

I was a bit surprised that 'contactless' was recently accepted in France
without a PIN on first use. My recollection is that last time, I had to
enter a PIN the first time I used it on a trip.

On 05/09/2019 18:21, Brian Reay wrote:

I was a bit surprised that 'contactless' was recently accepted in France
without a PIN on first use. My recollection is that last time, I had to
enter a PIN the first time I used it on a trip.



For me contactless has only requested a pin once. I think what may have
triggered it is two transactions 250 miles apart within 6 hours of each
other.

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alan_m wrote:
On 05/09/2019 18:21, Brian Reay wrote:

I was a bit surprised that 'contactless' was recently accepted in France
without a PIN on first use. My recollection is that last time, I had to
enter a PIN the first time I used it on a trip.



For me contactless has only requested a pin once. I think what may have
triggered it is two transactions 250 miles apart within 6 hours of each
other.


Perhaps that was it, or something similar. Certainly other times it hasnt
been an issue.

I was surprised when we were in the US a few years back that quite a few
places still used the old fashioned imprint and sign gadgets- the ones
where you get a tracing paper like receipt. It wasnt just in the remote
areas either, it applied in places where there would certainly have been
access to Internet/phone etc . Ive not signed a credit card receipt in
the UK in years.

Harry Bloomfield wrote:

Is this a filling station thing?

Yes, most pumps seem to have an improvised sign stuck on them warning
they don't accept ApplePay above the £30 contactless limit.

Andy Burns laid this down on his screen :
Yes, most pumps seem to have an improvised sign stuck on them warning they
don't accept ApplePay above the £30 contactless limit.

I wonder why fuel stations and not other places, when exceeding that
£30 will be quite frequent?

No mine says if you want to pay more you need two transactions. Its much the
same as contactless cards. there are rumours that this will be relaxed
though so a bigger incentive to steal your card or phone.
Brian

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Topped the car up with £60 of diesel, went to counter to Applepay and it
wouldn't accept it if more than £30, I have never used it for fuel before,
but where I have spent more than £30 it has been accepted. Is this a
filling station thing?

Brian Gaff formulated on Friday :
so a bigger incentive to steal your card or phone.

With the phone, they would have to also steal my face or my thumb.

That was the whole point of Applepay, it was secure - needing you to be
present with your thumb or face, so no need for a pin even for the
largest or smallest transactions.

My point was, why are fuel stations not accepting Applepay for £30 ?

Harry Bloomfield wrote:

My point was, why are fuel stations not accepting Applepay for £30 ?

Presumably petrol stations have been (maybe still are) "good" places for
criminals to use stolen plastic for contactless transactions?

Maybe with that track record they find it difficult to persuade the
banks to allow the higher limit without the petrol station bearing the risk?

Andy Burns wrote on 06/09/2019 :
Presumably petrol stations have been (maybe still are) "good" places for
criminals to use stolen plastic for contactless transactions?

Applepay is unlike plastic, the owner has to be present during the
transaction to use their face or their thumb. The phone has to see your
face, or thumb and make the payment within a few seconds - Supposedly
much more secure than chip and a pin.

I have now swapped most of my out and about spend, to Applepay, so I
was just lucky I had my wallet and cards to enable me to pay at all.

Harry Bloomfield wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Presumably petrol stations have been (maybe still are) "good" places
for criminals to use stolen plastic for contactless transactions?

Applepay is unlike plastic, the owner has to be present during the
transaction to use their face or their thumb.

But does the shop till know whether it's talking to a plastic card, or
an iThing?

Harry Bloomfield; "Esq." wrote in message
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Andy Burns wrote on 06/09/2019 :
Presumably petrol stations have been (maybe still are) "good" places for criminals to
use stolen plastic for contactless transactions?

Applepay is unlike plastic, the owner has to be present during the transaction to use
their face or their thumb.

Never heard of bolt cutters ?


michael adams

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Harry Bloomfield wrote:

My point was, why are fuel stations not accepting Applepay for £30 ?

Presumably petrol stations have been (maybe still are) "good" places for
criminals to use stolen plastic for contactless transactions?

They arent really because there is a limit to how much petrol you can use.

Maybe with that track record they find it difficult to persuade the banks
to allow the higher limit without the petrol station bearing the risk?

There is no risk for the petrol station with an applepay transaction
because no stolen iphone can be used to do applepay transactions.

On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 19:39:47 +1000, jeikppkywk, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:

They arent

LOL

Maybe with that track record they find it difficult to persuade the banks
to allow the higher limit without the petrol station bearing the risk?

There is no

LOL

In auto-contradicting mode again, you clinically insane auto-contradicting
85-year-old senile pest?

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On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 8:28:02 AM UTC+1, Andy Burns wrote:
Harry Bloomfield wrote:

My point was, why are fuel stations not accepting Applepay for £30 ?

Presumably petrol stations have been (maybe still are) "good" places for
criminals to use stolen plastic for contactless transactions?

Maybe with that track record they find it difficult to persuade the
banks to allow the higher limit without the petrol station bearing the risk?

A friend had his wallet stolen. The credit card appeared to have been sold to a long distance lorry driver as the transactions all related to diesel purchases across Europe

On Friday, 6 September 2019 08:28:02 UTC+1, Andy Burns wrote:
Harry Bloomfield wrote:

My point was, why are fuel stations not accepting Applepay for £30 ?

Presumably petrol stations have been (maybe still are) "good" places for
criminals to use stolen plastic for contactless transactions?

I was told that common fraud transcactions with cards were fuel and trainers transactions.


Maybe with that track record they find it difficult to persuade the
banks to allow the higher limit without the petrol station bearing the risk?

Brian Gaff wrote

No mine says if you want to pay more you need two transactions. Its much
the same as contactless cards. there are rumours that this will be relaxed

There is no limit with applepay transactions here anymore.

though so a bigger incentive to steal your card or phone.

No point in stealing your iphone, the thief cant do applepay transactions.

Harry Bloomfield; "Esq." wrote in
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Topped the car up with £60 of diesel, went to counter to Applepay and it
wouldn't accept it if more than £30, I have never used it for fuel
before,
but where I have spent more than £30 it has been accepted. Is this a
filling station thing?

On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 19:24:41 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


There is no

LOL

No

LOL

Feeling better again, you pathological, auto-contradicting senile idiot?

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