Hi all,
Ive got four sheds and non have the same lock so its awkward having various keys and padlocks and mind are very secure.
Does anyone have a good idea of how to have either combination locks with the same combination number, padlocks with suited alike keys, or a simple but secure latch or rim lock?
Thanks

On 05/09/2019 13:36, wrote:
Hi all,
Ive got four sheds and non have the same lock so its awkward having various keys and padlocks and mind are very secure.
Does anyone have a good idea of how to have either combination locks with the same combination number, padlocks with suited alike keys, or a simple but secure latch or rim lock?
Thanks

Four sheds! That is some boasting.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B072BXCNF1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

I have one of these, combination is settable.

On Thursday, 5 September 2019 13:48:26 UTC+1, Pancho wrote:
On 05/09/2019 13:36, wrote:
Hi all,
Ive got four sheds and non have the same lock so its awkward having various keys and padlocks and mind are very secure.
Does anyone have a good idea of how to have either combination locks with the same combination number, padlocks with suited alike keys, or a simple but secure latch or rim lock?
Thanks

Four sheds! That is some boasting.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B072BXCNF1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

I have one of these, combination is settable.

Go modern get four of these bluetooth ones only ~£90 each !

https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/padlocks/1218770/

One does have to be a little careful with some combination locks, as a
gentle pull can allow one to feel the tiny click inside as each lever
operates.
Brian

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On 05/09/2019 13:36, wrote:
Hi all,
I've got four sheds and non have the same lock so it's awkward having
various keys and padlocks and mind are very secure.
Does anyone have a good idea of how to have either combination locks with
the same combination number, padlocks with suited alike keys, or a simple
but secure latch or rim lock?
Thanks

Four sheds! That is some boasting.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B072BXCNF1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

I have one of these, combination is settable.

On 06/09/2019 07:49, Brian Gaff wrote:
One does have to be a little careful with some combination locks, as a
gentle pull can allow one to feel the tiny click inside as each lever
operates.
Brian

I remember bike locks circa the 1970s suffering this problem.

Modern combination locks seem much less open to this type of crack. I
tried on the two I have and could not feel anything significant.

On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 10:15:19 +0100, Pancho wrote:

On 06/09/2019 07:49, Brian Gaff wrote:
One does have to be a little careful with some combination locks, as a
gentle pull can allow one to feel the tiny click inside as each lever
operates.
Brian

I remember bike locks circa the 1970s suffering this problem.

Modern combination locks seem much less open to this type of crack. I
tried on the two I have and could not feel anything significant.

My shed has a Squire combination bolt and I can't feel the 'tightest'
cylinder. Actually, this might be because my fingers and thumbs are too big
to rotate one cylinder when I grip hard.
Next door's back gate had a cheap bike lock and that was easy - had to take
it off when a cylider got out of synch. Soon put that right - it was easy to
hold the notch and turn the outer ring.
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On 05/09/2019 13:48, Pancho wrote:
On 05/09/2019 13:36, wrote:
Hi all,
Ive got four sheds and non have the same lock so its awkward having
various keys and padlocks and mind are very secure.
Does anyone have a good idea of how to have either combination locks
with the same combination number, padlocks with suited alike keys, or
a simple but secure latch or rim lock?
Thanks

Four sheds! That is some boasting.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B072BXCNF1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1


I have one of these, combination is settable.

My elderly mother currently requires someone to come around morning and
evening to help with washing and dressing (she had a fall and broke here
arm and shoulder). The NHS provide an upto 6 week "free" rehabilitation
service which is followed up with a means tested social services
provision. She has a key safe by the front door.

Both the NHS and social services supervisors who visited to explain the
services strongly recommended not using your birth year as the a
combination that is easy to remember. Too many people have 19xx as a
four digit combination.

They also indicated that too may people only scramble the last digit on
the rotary type combination locks and all their staff are told to
scramble all digits when replacing a key.

From experience, on some of the press key locks it doesn't matter which
order you press the 4 keys so if your code is 19xy pressing x1y9 will
also gain entry. If a press key lock is used a lot the keys with most
grime on them or the keys with the digits that are most worm will be the
code!


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On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 08:16:08 +0100, alan_m wrote:

From experience, on some of the press key locks it doesn't matter which
order you press the 4 keys so if your code is 19xy pressing x1y9 will
also gain entry.

Yep, quite a lot of the mechanical ones. Only serves to confuse the
users:

Jim: Oy, Fred what's the code for the door?
Fred: 4528.
Jim: You sure, I thought it was 8254?
Les: You're both wrong. It's 2854.

If a press key lock is used a lot the keys with most grime on them or
the keys with the digits that are most worm will be the code!

Or the shiny buttons. Electronic ones have fixed number order but I
have seen, once, an electronic keypad that moved the numbers about
the buttons for each code entry sequence.

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On Saturday, 7 September 2019 21:01:46 UTC+1, Dave Liquorice wrote:

If a press key lock is used a lot the keys with most grime on them or
the keys with the digits that are most worm will be the code!

Press the other keys after locking it


NT

On Saturday, 7 September 2019 21:01:46 UTC+1, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 08:16:08 +0100, alan_m wrote:

From experience, on some of the press key locks it doesn't matter which
order you press the 4 keys so if your code is 19xy pressing x1y9 will
also gain entry.

Yep, quite a lot of the mechanical ones. Only serves to confuse the
users:

Jim: Oy, Fred what's the code for the door?
Fred: 4528.
Jim: You sure, I thought it was 8254?
Les: You're both wrong. It's 2854.

you think there's a problem with 4 locks.

I have 96 4-digit padlocks to give to our studetns in the lab for their cupboards. when they are in groups of 5 they share one padlock, sometimes one memeber will decide to change the combination to make it easier to remember but forget to tell their fellow group members, so come to me saying the combination doesn't work. So in the past I've had to use bolt cutters on them.
I have a large stash of padlocks that have been cut off.

On 05/09/2019 13:36, wrote:
Hi all,
Ive got four sheds and non have the same lock so its awkward having various keys and padlocks and mind are very secure.
Does anyone have a good idea of how to have either combination locks with the same combination number, padlocks with suited alike keys, or a simple but secure latch or rim lock?
Thanks

We have these:

https://www.safe.co.uk/products/abus...yed-alike.html

two padlocks, one on each of two bolts with a single key operating both.
Only one shed though.

Andrew May wrote:

We have these:
https://www.safe.co.uk/products/abus...yed-alike.html

Careful with that Gallium ...

Andy Burns wrote:

Andrew May wrote:

We have these:
https://www.safe.co.uk/products/abus...yed-alike.html

Careful with that Gallium ...

https://youtu.be/jeghGhVdt9s

On 05/09/2019 13:36, wrote:
Hi all,
Ive got four sheds and non have the same lock so its awkward having various keys and padlocks and mind are very secure.
Does anyone have a good idea of how to have either combination locks with the same combination number, padlocks with suited alike keys, or a simple but secure latch or rim lock?
Thanks


You can get sets of padlocks that have the same key.

Bill

On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 14:36:19 +0100, Bill Wright wrote:

On 05/09/2019 13:36, wrote:
Hi all,
Ive got four sheds and non have the same lock so its awkward having
various keys and padlocks and mind are very secure.
Does anyone have a good idea of how to have either combination locks
with the same combination number, padlocks with suited alike keys, or a
simple but secure latch or rim lock?
Thanks


You can get sets of padlocks that have the same key.

I got mine from Ironmongery Direct. Quite a range.

I also have shed alarms. Not cheap, but look for a company called
UltraSecure. They use 3G to ring the house phones (in our case with a
special cadence) and tell us which shed is under attack.


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On 5 Sep 2019 14:59:16 GMT, Bob Eager wrote:

I also have shed alarms. Not cheap, but look for a company called
UltraSecure. They use 3G to ring the house phones (in our case with a
special cadence) and tell us which shed is under attack.

Are these sheds off grid? If so how are they powered?

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On 05/09/2019 13:36, wrote:
Hi all,
Ive got four sheds and non have the same lock so its awkward having various keys and padlocks and mind are very secure.
Does anyone have a good idea of how to have either combination locks with the same combination number, padlocks with suited alike keys, or a simple but secure latch or rim lock?
Thanks

Look for padlocks "Keyed Alike". Screwfix used to have sets of 6, I use
these on yard gate, tack room, hay store, and tool store at our horse
yard. They also came with two or three keys each, so plenty of spares to
share if required.

Whether you want same or different key/code depends on the value of
contents plus risk of compromise.

It was also handy to know the magic term when I had to replace one of
the two locks on my car "top box". Much less hassle than fumbling with
multiple keys.

formulated the question :
Does anyone have a good idea of how to have either combination locks with the
same combination number, padlocks with suited alike keys, or a simple but
secure latch or rim lock?

Something like the Arrone AR/D-195MC range?

You can set the code to suit yourself and all the same.

Or design a powered latch release, released by buttons, located in a
secure location.

Well in the past you used to be able to get packs of padlocks with the same
keys. I recall seeing them arrive in the factory where I worked. Chubb comes
to mind, but I guess others do it as well.
Brian

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Hi all,
I've got four sheds and non have the same lock so it's awkward having
various keys and padlocks and mind are very secure.
Does anyone have a good idea of how to have either combination locks with
the same combination number, padlocks with suited alike keys, or a simple
but secure latch or rim lock?
Thanks

On 05/09/2019 13:36, wrote:
Hi all,
Ive got four sheds and non have the same lock so its awkward having various keys and padlocks and mind are very secure.
Does anyone have a good idea of how to have either combination locks with the same combination number, padlocks with suited alike keys, or a simple but secure latch or rim lock?
Thanks


Are these garden sheds and how sturdy are they? If a thief wants to get
into a shed they will just kick in a panel rather than mess around with
the door and a lock. Alternatively they will just bring a large wreaking
bar. It is a mistake to assume that a thief cares about looking after
the state of your property.

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wrote:
Hi all,
Ive got four sheds and non have the same lock so its awkward having
various keys and padlocks and mind are very secure.
Does anyone have a good idea of how to have either combination locks with
the same combination number, padlocks with suited alike keys, or a simple
but secure latch or rim lock?
Thanks


We had a similar problem and found a set of 3 locks, with common keys, in
one of the DIY sheds, I think Homebase as we had a voucher. They are
Masterlock I think. They had sets with 4 in I believe.

I cant recall how many keys we got, certainly enough for a spare and one
for a neighbour to get into the garden gate if needed.

Quality seems OK. Theyve been outside a couple of years and havent rusted
up etc.

On 05/09/2019 14:37, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 05:36:18 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Hi all,
I’ve got four sheds and non have the same lock so it’s awkward having various keys and padlocks and mind are very secure.
Does anyone have a good idea of how to have either combination locks with the same combination number, padlocks with suited alike keys, or a simple but secure latch or rim lock?
Thanks

No suggestions for padlocks, but remember that if your shed is made of
wooden boarding, the scrotes can just lever off a few panels and gain
access that way, regardless of how well padlocked the door is. The
moral is never keep anything valuable in your shed(s).


And the second moral is to be careful when increasing the level of
security. Installing a single fancy high security lock may have a scrote
thinking "If it requires that much protection, there must be something
worth stealing in there".