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Any tips? This is from one town to another town about a 150 miles away.
How to get it on the van, secure it down etc. And how do you get it through a front door? Thanks -- Adam |
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On 31/08/2019 06:59, ARW wrote:
Any tips? This is from one town to another town about a 150 miles away. How to get it on the van, secure it down etc. And how do you get it through a front door? Thanks https://youtu.be/_NgSBIPJ8KA?t=167 -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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alan_m wrote:
ARW wrote: Any tips? This is from one town to another town about a 150 miles away. How to get it on the van, secure it down etc. And how do you get it through a front door? https://youtu.be/_NgSBIPJ8KA?t=167 https://youtu.be/r5XX9LX2es4 |
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On 31/08/2019 06:59, ARW wrote:
Any tips? This is from one town to another town about a 150 miles away. How to get it on the van, secure it down etc. And how do you get it through a front door? I'm a pessimist so I'd start with prior questions: - will I get sued if I break it? - will I you lose, ahem, "benefits" if I break it? - do I have a good excuse to get out of it? If you're set on the job, the only important lesson I learnt from personal experience as a helper many years ago was that the legs can come off in a somewhat destructive failure mode if you push it. (I couldn't find a suitable funny video of that - just a boring lecture from professionals on that and other things not to do https://www.fantastic-removals.co.uk/blog/how-to-move-a-piano/) -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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On 31/08/2019 06:59, ARW wrote:
Any tips? This is from one town to another town about a 150 miles away. How to get it on the van, secure it down etc. And how do you get it through a front door? Thanks Is it wooden or cast-iron framed? If the latter you need as many people as you can get around it! Getting the piano from my grandparents' house to my parents involved four of us and would have been easier if we could have fitted six around it. Movements to get it out of the front room and to the front door involved standing it one one end to rotate it out of the front room door, but that had to be the wrong end for a later move, so it then had to be moved into the back room and switched onto its other end to be able to manoeuvre it back into the hall and out of the front door. Once at the van, it was a case of lifting one end just in, then lifting the other end and pushing it the rest of the way. Securing it was not a problem - the van had shelves running along both sides and we had to remove the front lip from one to get the piano between them. All it needed was strapping to stop it moving backwards or forwards, as there was nowhere else for it to go really. You do want it wellheld though, there'd be a lot of momentum if you had to emergency brake or, even worse, were in a crash. In our case, we were only moving it about 5 miles and all on slow roads, so a little less of a risk. At the other end of the journey, it was decided that rather than manouvering it (on end) through the porch door and front door and then needing to be on the other end to turn through the living room door, it was easier to get it all the way to the back and come in through the patio door. You can pretty well guarantee that it has very small metal castors, that tend to be siezed and anyway are so small that they sink into any carpet and will not roll or will dig grooves in laminate, so you need an old blanket or similar to slide it on, even when upright. This all plays havoc with the tuning, so once in place, that'll need doing - we actually had the sterotypical blind piano tuner in! All in all, its damned hard work and they are *HEAVY*! SteveW |
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On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 8:43:58 AM UTC+1, Steve Walker wrote:
On 31/08/2019 06:59, ARW wrote: Any tips? This is from one town to another town about a 150 miles away. How to get it on the van, secure it down etc. And how do you get it through a front door? Thanks Is it wooden or cast-iron framed? If the latter you need as many people as you can get around it! Getting the piano from my grandparents' house to my parents involved four of us and would have been easier if we could have fitted six around it. Movements to get it out of the front room and to the front door involved standing it one one end to rotate it out of the front room door, but that had to be the wrong end for a later move, so it then had to be moved into the back room and switched onto its other end to be able to manoeuvre it back into the hall and out of the front door. Once at the van, it was a case of lifting one end just in, then lifting the other end and pushing it the rest of the way. Securing it was not a problem - the van had shelves running along both sides and we had to remove the front lip from one to get the piano between them. All it needed was strapping to stop it moving backwards or forwards, as there was nowhere else for it to go really. You do want it wellheld though, there'd be a lot of momentum if you had to emergency brake or, even worse, were in a crash. In our case, we were only moving it about 5 miles and all on slow roads, so a little less of a risk. At the other end of the journey, it was decided that rather than manouvering it (on end) through the porch door and front door and then needing to be on the other end to turn through the living room door, it was easier to get it all the way to the back and come in through the patio door. You can pretty well guarantee that it has very small metal castors, that tend to be siezed and anyway are so small that they sink into any carpet and will not roll or will dig grooves in laminate, so you need an old blanket or similar to slide it on, even when upright. This all plays havoc with the tuning, so once in place, that'll need doing - we actually had the sterotypical blind piano tuner in! All in all, its damned hard work and they are *HEAVY*! SteveW I bought a piano on Thursday. It was going to be £120 for a professional piano tuner to move it, he did not need help. I would have liked to have seen it. Two of us moved it using borrowed car wheel dollys. https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/awd1...CABEgIex_D_BwE the dollys were great, we could adjust the direction of travel mid doorway. Only left one slight mark on the emulsion as we lifted it on. Steps involved, but no stairs. |
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On 31/08/2019 08:43, Steve Walker wrote:
Movements to get it out of the front room and to the front door involved standing it one one end to rotate it out of the front room door Perhaps something like this would help if upending the piano https://www.toolstation.com/roughneck-dolly/p99817 In the past I've found them to be very useful for heavy loads. for the front/back door thresholds build a platform from scrap lengths of wood and slide the piano on these using a blanket to protect and provide a low friction surface. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On 31/08/2019 06:59, ARW wrote:
Any tips? This is from one town to another town about a 150 miles away. How to get it on the van, secure it down etc. And how do you get it through a front door? Thanks You need a trolley with a single axle so that it can be turned and tilted easily. Use timber ramps or muscles to get over door thresholds. In the van, get it against the front bulkhead and rope it to the side of the van (or use props from the other side onto a carpeted board to spread any load). Obviously, remove any removable bits before you start. Some mates and I once tried to get a piano up some stairs, but we had to give-up about a third of the way up. When the "professionals" turned-up (2 HUGE blokes) they just carried it up as if it was an empty box. Despite being an enthusiastic and can-do DIYer I would pay someone else to damage their back if I had one to move. |
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wrote: On 31/08/2019 06:59, ARW wrote: Any tips? This is from one town to another town about a 150 miles away. How to get it on the van, secure it down etc. And how do you get it through a front door? Thanks You need a trolley with a single axle so that it can be turned and tilted easily. Use timber ramps or muscles to get over door thresholds. In the van, get it against the front bulkhead and rope it to the side of the van (or use props from the other side onto a carpeted board to spread any load). Obviously, remove any removable bits before you start. Some mates and I once tried to get a piano up some stairs, but we had to give-up about a third of the way up. When the "professionals" turned-up (2 HUGE blokes) they just carried it up as if it was an empty box. Despite being an enthusiastic and can-do DIYer I would pay someone else to damage their back if I had one to move. Some years ago I saw a farmer pick up a piano all by himelf. -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
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ARW wrote:
Any tips? This is from one town to another town about a 150 miles away. How to get it on the van, secure it down etc. And how do you get it through a front door? Thanks Don't be such a tight fisted ****. Get the men in. https://www.anyvan.com/av/low-cost-p...SAAEgI1nPD_BwE |
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On Sat, 31 Aug 2019 06:59:15 +0100, ARW
wrote: Any tips? This is from one town to another town about a 150 miles away. How to get it on the van, secure it down etc. And how do you get it through a front door? Thanks There are (or were) professional piano movers. I'm sure you could afford their services. -- Dave W |
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On 31/08/2019 08:42, Robin wrote:
On 31/08/2019 06:59, ARW wrote: Any tips? This is from one town to another town about a 150 miles away. How to get it on the van, secure it down etc. And how do you get it through a front door? I'm a pessimist so I'd start with prior questions: -*** will I get sued if I break it? -*** will I you lose, ahem, "benefits" if I break it? -*** do I have a good excuse to get out of it? If you're set on the job, the only important lesson I learnt from personal experience as a helper many years ago was that the legs can come off in a somewhat destructive failure mode if you push it.* (I couldn't find a suitable funny video of that - just a boring lecture from professionals on that and other things not to do https://www.fantastic-removals.co.uk/blog/how-to-move-a-piano/) It's a three job in two days type of thing. I will not get sued if it goes tits up. 1. I go to Watford to do some work. 2. The next day I drive from Watford to Shrewsbury to pick up a piano with the bloke from Watford from his Mum's old house to bring back to Watford 3. Whilst in Shrewsbury and picking up the piano I do a EICR of her new house in Shrewsbury. And yes Geoff from CET is renting the van so I cannot get out of it:-) -- Adam |
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On 31/08/2019 10:34, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
ARW wrote: Any tips? This is from one town to another town about a 150 miles away. How to get it on the van, secure it down etc. And how do you get it through a front door? Thanks Don't be such a tight fisted ****. Get the men in. https://www.anyvan.com/av/low-cost-p...SAAEgI1nPD_BwE Tight fisted my arse. They will want about £500. This is DIY. And where have you been? Hopefully on holiday or somewhere nice as you have not posted for a while. -- Adam |
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On 31/08/2019 08:43, Steve Walker wrote:
On 31/08/2019 06:59, ARW wrote: Any tips? This is from one town to another town about a 150 miles away. How to get it on the van, secure it down etc. And how do you get it through a front door? Thanks Is it wooden or cast-iron framed? If the latter you need as many people as you can get around it! Getting the piano from my grandparents' house to my parents involved four of us and would have been easier if we could have fitted six around it. Movements to get it out of the front room and to the front door involved standing it one one end to rotate it out of the front room door, but that had to be the wrong end for a later move, so it then had to be moved into the back room and switched onto its other end to be able to manoeuvre it back into the hall and out of the front door. Once at the van, it was a case of lifting one end just in, then lifting the other end and pushing it the rest of the way. Securing it was not a problem - the van had shelves running along both sides and we had to remove the front lip from one to get the piano between them. All it needed was strapping to stop it moving backwards or forwards, as there was nowhere else for it to go really. You do want it wellheld though, there'd be a lot of momentum if you had to emergency brake or, even worse, were in a crash. In our case, we were only moving it about 5 miles and all on slow roads, so a little less of a risk. At the other end of the journey, it was decided that rather than manouvering it (on end) through the porch door and front door and then needing to be on the other end to turn through the living room door, it was easier to get it all the way to the back and come in through the patio door. You can pretty well guarantee that it has very small metal castors, that tend to be siezed and anyway are so small that they sink into any carpet and will not roll or will dig grooves in laminate, so you need an old blanket or similar to slide it on, even when upright. This all plays havoc with the tuning, so once in place, that'll need doing - we actually had the sterotypical blind piano tuner in! All in all, its damned hard work and they are *HEAVY*! So basically it's going to be a ******* of a job then? I like a challenge. -- Adam |
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On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 10:58:52 AM UTC+1, Dave W wrote:
On Sat, 31 Aug 2019 06:59:15 +0100, ARW wrote: Any tips? This is from one town to another town about a 150 miles away. How to get it on the van, secure it down etc. And how do you get it through a front door? Thanks There are (or were) professional piano movers. I'm sure you could afford their services. -- Dave W The professional was going to charge me £120 to move it 30 miles, and he was making the journey anyway to tune it at mine. I'm 53 and lift nothing heavier than a pen at work, I managed my end of the piano. |
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"ARW" wrote in message ... On 31/08/2019 10:34, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: ARW wrote: Any tips? This is from one town to another town about a 150 miles away. How to get it on the van, secure it down etc. And how do you get it through a front door? Thanks Don't be such a tight fisted ****. Get the men in. https://www.anyvan.com/av/low-cost-p...SAAEgI1nPD_BwE Tight fisted my arse. They will want about £500. This is DIY. And where have you been? Hopefully on holiday or somewhere nice as you have not posted for a while. He's been pounding and is now completely blind. |
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On 31/08/2019 10:58, Dave W wrote:
On Sat, 31 Aug 2019 06:59:15 +0100, ARW wrote: Any tips? This is from one town to another town about a 150 miles away. How to get it on the van, secure it down etc. And how do you get it through a front door? Thanks There are (or were) professional piano movers. I'm sure you could afford their services. If it were their only load they would probably want £1 per mile to start with (£300) plus the hourly rate for 2 men for at least 6 hours (£120 minimum) plus VAT (£85) = £505. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On 31/08/2019 11:20, misterroy wrote:
On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 10:58:52 AM UTC+1, Dave W wrote: On Sat, 31 Aug 2019 06:59:15 +0100, ARW wrote: Any tips? This is from one town to another town about a 150 miles away. How to get it on the van, secure it down etc. And how do you get it through a front door? Thanks There are (or were) professional piano movers. I'm sure you could afford their services. -- Dave W The professional was going to charge me £120 to move it 30 miles, and he was making the journey anyway to tune it at mine. I'm 53 and lift nothing heavier than a pen at work, I managed my end of the piano. Ordinary looking uprights with an iron frame can top 200 kg. And AIUI even movers can't always tell just by looking. -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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On 31/08/2019 10:11, charles wrote:
In article , wrote: On 31/08/2019 06:59, ARW wrote: Any tips? This is from one town to another town about a 150 miles away. How to get it on the van, secure it down etc. And how do you get it through a front door? Thanks You need a trolley with a single axle so that it can be turned and tilted easily. Use timber ramps or muscles to get over door thresholds. In the van, get it against the front bulkhead and rope it to the side of the van (or use props from the other side onto a carpeted board to spread any load). Obviously, remove any removable bits before you start. Some mates and I once tried to get a piano up some stairs, but we had to give-up about a third of the way up. When the "professionals" turned-up (2 HUGE blokes) they just carried it up as if it was an empty box. Despite being an enthusiastic and can-do DIYer I would pay someone else to damage their back if I had one to move. Some years ago I saw a farmer pick up a piano all by himelf. But it probably didn't have a cast-iron frame though. |
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On 31/08/2019 10:59, ARW wrote:
On 31/08/2019 08:42, Robin wrote: On 31/08/2019 06:59, ARW wrote: Any tips? This is from one town to another town about a 150 miles away. How to get it on the van, secure it down etc. And how do you get it through a front door? I'm a pessimist so I'd start with prior questions: -*** will I get sued if I break it? -*** will I you lose, ahem, "benefits" if I break it? -*** do I have a good excuse to get out of it? If you're set on the job, the only important lesson I learnt from personal experience as a helper many years ago was that the legs can come off in a somewhat destructive failure mode if you push it.* (I couldn't find a suitable funny video of that - just a boring lecture from professionals on that and other things not to do https://www.fantastic-removals.co.uk/blog/how-to-move-a-piano/) It's a three job in two days type of thing. I will not get sued if it goes tits up. 1. I go to Watford to do some work. 2. The next day I drive from Watford to Shrewsbury to pick up a piano with the bloke from Watford from his Mum's old house to bring back to Watford 3. Whilst in Shrewsbury and picking up the piano I do a EICR of her new house in Shrewsbury. And yes Geoff from CET is renting the van so I cannot get out of it:-) Sheesh! So Day 2 is summat like: drive to Shrewsbury (140-odd miles) do EICR load piano drive Watford (140-odd miles) unload piano [drive Doncaster (150-odd miles)] Extra bodies available at both ends? Enough extra bodies and you could leave Geoff to load while you do the EICR and unload while you... :) -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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On 31/08/2019 12:10, Robin wrote:
On 31/08/2019 10:59, ARW wrote: On 31/08/2019 08:42, Robin wrote: On 31/08/2019 06:59, ARW wrote: Any tips? This is from one town to another town about a 150 miles away. How to get it on the van, secure it down etc. And how do you get it through a front door? I'm a pessimist so I'd start with prior questions: -*** will I get sued if I break it? -*** will I you lose, ahem, "benefits" if I break it? -*** do I have a good excuse to get out of it? If you're set on the job, the only important lesson I learnt from personal experience as a helper many years ago was that the legs can come off in a somewhat destructive failure mode if you push it.* (I couldn't find a suitable funny video of that - just a boring lecture from professionals on that and other things not to do https://www.fantastic-removals.co.uk/blog/how-to-move-a-piano/) It's a three job in two days type of thing. I will not get sued if it goes tits up. 1. I go to Watford to do some work. 2. The next day I drive from Watford to Shrewsbury to pick up a piano with the bloke from Watford from his Mum's old house to bring back to Watford 3. Whilst in Shrewsbury and picking up the piano I do a EICR of her new house in Shrewsbury. And yes Geoff from CET is renting the van so I cannot get out of it:-) Sheesh! So Day 2 is summat like: drive to Shrewsbury (140-odd miles) do EICR load piano drive Watford (140-odd miles) unload piano [drive Doncaster (150-odd miles)] Extra bodies available at both ends?* Enough extra bodies and you could leave Geoff to load while you do the EICR and unload while you... :) That's about it. Plenty of bodies at the Watford end. -- Adam |
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On 31/08/2019 12:50, ARW wrote:
On 31/08/2019 12:10, Robin wrote: On 31/08/2019 10:59, ARW wrote: On 31/08/2019 08:42, Robin wrote: On 31/08/2019 06:59, ARW wrote: Any tips? This is from one town to another town about a 150 miles away. How to get it on the van, secure it down etc. And how do you get it through a front door? I'm a pessimist so I'd start with prior questions: -*** will I get sued if I break it? -*** will I you lose, ahem, "benefits" if I break it? -*** do I have a good excuse to get out of it? If you're set on the job, the only important lesson I learnt from personal experience as a helper many years ago was that the legs can come off in a somewhat destructive failure mode if you push it.* (I couldn't find a suitable funny video of that - just a boring lecture from professionals on that and other things not to do https://www.fantastic-removals.co.uk/blog/how-to-move-a-piano/) It's a three job in two days type of thing. I will not get sued if it goes tits up. 1. I go to Watford to do some work. 2. The next day I drive from Watford to Shrewsbury to pick up a piano with the bloke from Watford from his Mum's old house to bring back to Watford 3. Whilst in Shrewsbury and picking up the piano I do a EICR of her new house in Shrewsbury. And yes Geoff from CET is renting the van so I cannot get out of it:-) Sheesh! So Day 2 is summat like: drive to Shrewsbury (140-odd miles) do EICR load piano drive Watford (140-odd miles) unload piano [drive Doncaster (150-odd miles)] Extra bodies available at both ends?* Enough extra bodies and you could leave Geoff to load while you do the EICR and unload while you... :) That's about it. Plenty of bodies at the Watford end. Find out if it's got an iron frame or where to find cheap bodies in Shrewsbury. Especially if there are steps involved or the van won't have a tail lift. (There's "a challenge" and there's "on the plus side, the toecaps on his boots survived".) -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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On 31/08/2019 13:07, Robin wrote:
On 31/08/2019 12:50, ARW wrote: On 31/08/2019 12:10, Robin wrote: On 31/08/2019 10:59, ARW wrote: On 31/08/2019 08:42, Robin wrote: On 31/08/2019 06:59, ARW wrote: Any tips? This is from one town to another town about a 150 miles away. How to get it on the van, secure it down etc. And how do you get it through a front door? I'm a pessimist so I'd start with prior questions: -*** will I get sued if I break it? -*** will I you lose, ahem, "benefits" if I break it? -*** do I have a good excuse to get out of it? If you're set on the job, the only important lesson I learnt from personal experience as a helper many years ago was that the legs can come off in a somewhat destructive failure mode if you push it.* (I couldn't find a suitable funny video of that - just a boring lecture from professionals on that and other things not to do https://www.fantastic-removals.co.uk/blog/how-to-move-a-piano/) It's a three job in two days type of thing. I will not get sued if it goes tits up. 1. I go to Watford to do some work. 2. The next day I drive from Watford to Shrewsbury to pick up a piano with the bloke from Watford from his Mum's old house to bring back to Watford 3. Whilst in Shrewsbury and picking up the piano I do a EICR of her new house in Shrewsbury. And yes Geoff from CET is renting the van so I cannot get out of it:-) Sheesh! So Day 2 is summat like: drive to Shrewsbury (140-odd miles) do EICR load piano drive Watford (140-odd miles) unload piano [drive Doncaster (150-odd miles)] Extra bodies available at both ends?* Enough extra bodies and you could leave Geoff to load while you do the EICR and unload while you... :) That's about it. Plenty of bodies at the Watford end. Find out if it's got an iron frame or where to find cheap bodies in Shrewsbury.* Especially if there are steps involved or the van won't have a tail lift.* (There's "a challenge" and there's "on the plus side, the toecaps on his boots survived".) Geoff is recruiting for the Shrewsbury side. -- Adam |
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On Sat, 31 Aug 2019 11:07:58 +0100
ARW wrote: On 31/08/2019 10:34, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: ARW wrote: Any tips? This is from one town to another town about a 150 miles away. How to get it on the van, secure it down etc. And how do you get it through a front door? Thanks Don't be such a tight fisted ****. Get the men in. https://www.anyvan.com/av/low-cost-p...SAAEgI1nPD_BwE Tight fisted my arse. They will want about £500. This is DIY. Mr Shifter would do it for peanuts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgzEBLa3PPk |
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On Sat, 31 Aug 2019 11:07:58 +0100, ARW wrote:
Don't be such a tight fisted ****. Get the men in. https://www.anyvan.com/av/low-cost-p...SAAEgI1nPD_BwE Tight fisted my arse. You SHOULD have put a comma after "fisted". BG |
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Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: "ARW" wrote in message ... On 31/08/2019 10:34, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: ARW wrote: Any tips? This is from one town to another town about a 150 miles away. How to get it on the van, secure it down etc. And how do you get it through a front door? Thanks Don't be such a tight fisted ****. Get the men in. https://www.anyvan.com/av/low-cost-p...SAAEgI1nPD_BwE Tight fisted my arse. They will want about 500. This is DIY. And where have you been? Hopefully on holiday or somewhere nice as you have not posted for a while. He's been pounding and is now completely blind. Oh, PLEASE! Spare everyone your senile attempts at "humour", you obnoxious senile pest! tsk -- Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 85-year-old trolling senile cretin from Oz: https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ |
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JARW wrote:
On 31/08/2019 13:07, Robin wrote: On 31/08/2019 12:50, ARW wrote: On 31/08/2019 12:10, Robin wrote: On 31/08/2019 10:59, ARW wrote: On 31/08/2019 08:42, Robin wrote: On 31/08/2019 06:59, ARW wrote: Any tips? This is from one town to another town about a 150 miles away. How to get it on the van, secure it down etc. And how do you get it through a front door? I'm a pessimist so I'd start with prior questions: -*** will I get sued if I break it? -*** will I you lose, ahem, "benefits" if I break it? -*** do I have a good excuse to get out of it? If you're set on the job, the only important lesson I learnt from personal experience as a helper many years ago was that the legs can come off in a somewhat destructive failure mode if you push it.* (I couldn't find a suitable funny video of that - just a boring lecture from professionals on that and other things not to do https://www.fantastic-removals.co.uk/blog/how-to-move-a-piano/) It's a three job in two days type of thing. I will not get sued if it goes tits up. 1. I go to Watford to do some work. 2. The next day I drive from Watford to Shrewsbury to pick up a piano with the bloke from Watford from his Mum's old house to bring back to Watford 3. Whilst in Shrewsbury and picking up the piano I do a EICR of her new house in Shrewsbury. And yes Geoff from CET is renting the van so I cannot get out of it:-) Sheesh! So Day 2 is summat like: drive to Shrewsbury (140-odd miles) do EICR load piano drive Watford (140-odd miles) unload piano [drive Doncaster (150-odd miles)] Extra bodies available at both ends?* Enough extra bodies and you could leave Geoff to load while you do the EICR and unload while you... :) That's about it. Plenty of bodies at the Watford end. Find out if it's got an iron frame or where to find cheap bodies in Shrewsbury.* Especially if there are steps involved or the van won't have a tail lift.* (There's "a challenge" and there's "on the plus side, the toecaps on his boots survived".) Geoff is recruiting for the Shrewsbury side. Dont forget that conventional uprights have many easily removable parts that can lighten it. Lid, top front panel, lower front panel, keyboard lid etc. Few tools, if any required to remove. The main action with all the hammers and levers can also be lifted out by undoing a few fasteners. Tim -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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Angle Grinder.
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Mr Shifter is a real company in Doncaster.
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On 31/08/2019 10:59, ARW wrote:
And yes Geoff from CET is renting the van so I cannot get out of it:-) I wouldn't start from there, I'd get a man in. Presumably an upright, which isn't quite so bad. My ex parents in law inherited a small Bechstein grand, in one of their moves it had to go into a first floor room in a Victorian Terrace in Oxford, apparently the movers took out the sashes and jury rigged some sort of hoist from above, c.f. the systems used in old Amsterdam (and London) warehouses. |
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ARW wrote:
On 31/08/2019 10:34, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: ARW wrote: Any tips? This is from one town to another town about a 150 miles away. How to get it on the van, secure it down etc. And how do you get it through a front door? Thanks Don't be such a tight fisted ****. Get the men in. https://www.anyvan.com/av/low-cost-p...SAAEgI1nPD_BwE Tight fisted my arse. They will want about 500. This is DIY. And where have you been? Hopefully on holiday or somewhere nice as you have not posted for a while. I've not read much worth replying to. The group seems to be infested by that stupid Australian **** and that silly Jock. |
Moving a piano
On Saturday, 31 August 2019 06:59:18 UTC+1, ARW wrote:
Any tips? This is from one town to another town about a 150 miles away. How to get it on the van, secure it down etc. And how do you get it through a front door? I once sold a grand piano on ebay. When the buyers arrived to collect it we lifted it off the ground, tipped it back, and stood it up balancing it on its long edge on a bit of carpet. We then took the legs off and slid it to the front door (on the polished wood floor). Then we grabbed it as best we could and lifted it (still with its back edge down), carried it out. Then we turned it and put it flat on the floor of the van (still without the legs on). We only just managed to lift it with 4 strong men - it was a huge effort. You need at least six to do it without risking hernias. Specialist piano movers use special little trolleys. Robert |
Moving a piano
On Saturday, 31 August 2019 10:59:41 UTC+1, ARW wrote:
On 31/08/2019 08:42, Robin wrote: On 31/08/2019 06:59, ARW wrote: Any tips? This is from one town to another town about a 150 miles away.. How to get it on the van, secure it down etc. And how do you get it through a front door? I'm a pessimist so I'd start with prior questions: -*** will I get sued if I break it? -*** will I you lose, ahem, "benefits" if I break it? -*** do I have a good excuse to get out of it? If you're set on the job, the only important lesson I learnt from personal experience as a helper many years ago was that the legs can come off in a somewhat destructive failure mode if you push it.* (I couldn't find a suitable funny video of that - just a boring lecture from professionals on that and other things not to do https://www.fantastic-removals.co.uk/blog/how-to-move-a-piano/) It's a three job in two days type of thing. I will not get sued if it goes tits up. 1. I go to Watford to do some work. Interestingly the piano I sold (see my previous post) was in my house in Watford :-) R |
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Moving a piano
On Sat, 31 Aug 2019 12:09:46 +0100, Andrew wrote:
But it probably didn't have a cast-iron frame though. SWMBO'd has "collected" two upright pianos here. One timber frame the other cast iron, the timber one is the heavier. That maybe down to the timber framed one being older so has a much better built case, even so it does have about 6 x 4 to 5' long 6x6 ish timbers in it... -- Cheers Dave. |
Moving a piano
On Sat, 31 Aug 2019 11:14:06 +0100, ARW wrote:
All in all, its damned hard work and they are *HEAVY*! F**KING HEAVY. So basically it's going to be a ******* of a job then? Without the right tool and some thought about any routes through doors etc, yes. I like a challenge. But with the right tool it becomes a lot easier. The right tool is a *very strong* single axle dolly about 15" long and 12" wide with large (6") soft (pnumatic), with the tops of the wheels below the top surface of the dolly and inside the 12" width. The one I've seen was made from nothing smaller than 3 x 2. Lift one end of piano, slide dolly underneath as near central as possible lower piano onto dolly and it'll be a POP to move and rotate in it's own diagonal width. The large wheels enable small level variations to be negociated. Single steps over an inch or so will require some form of ramp, this might just be a rectanglura bit of wood laid large dimesion down next to the obstical to reduce the size of each required vertical lift. With a good dolly getting the ******* thing into the van is like to be the hard bit. A ramp to be shallow enough to push the piano up on the dolly is going to require so seriously chucky bits of timber and still need supporting and don't forget the van suspension will "give" quite a bit when the weight gets applied. Picking it up and getting one end in and onto old carpet (backing side up) to slide in might be possible with four blokes. Personally I'd have a word with one of the local farmers and get them to come round with a front loader and some strong strops. Strops under each end, prevented from sliding to the midle some how, front loader picks it up and gets one end into van on the old carper, then blokes shove it in as the front loader slowly lowers. -- Cheers Dave. |
Moving a piano
On 31 Aug 2019 14:45:29 GMT, Tim+ wrote:
Don t forget that conventional uprights have many easily removable parts that can lighten it. Lid, top front panel, lower front panel, keyboard lid etc. Few tools, if any required to remove. The main action with all the hammers and levers can also be lifted out by undoing a few fasteners. Yes, good for lessening the weight whilst dollying about. Taking the main action out is also possible but it does have lots of easy to snag fragile bits. I'd put it back in for transport in the van and put it well out the way when shifting the main part. -- Cheers Dave. |
Moving a piano
On 31/08/2019 17:13, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
ARW wrote: On 31/08/2019 10:34, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: ARW wrote: Any tips? This is from one town to another town about a 150 miles away. How to get it on the van, secure it down etc. And how do you get it through a front door? Thanks Don't be such a tight fisted ****. Get the men in. https://www.anyvan.com/av/low-cost-p...SAAEgI1nPD_BwE Tight fisted my arse. They will want about £500. This is DIY. And where have you been? Hopefully on holiday or somewhere nice as you have not posted for a while. I've not read much worth replying to. The group seems to be infested by that stupid Australian **** and that silly Jock. And Brexit:-( -- Adam |
Moving a piano
ARW wrote:
On 31/08/2019 17:13, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: ARW wrote: On 31/08/2019 10:34, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: ARW wrote: Any tips? This is from one town to another town about a 150 miles away. How to get it on the van, secure it down etc. And how do you get it through a front door? Thanks Don't be such a tight fisted ****. Get the men in. https://www.anyvan.com/av/low-cost-p...SAAEgI1nPD_BwE Tight fisted my arse. They will want about 500. This is DIY. And where have you been? Hopefully on holiday or somewhere nice as you have not posted for a while. I've not read much worth replying to. The group seems to be infested by that stupid Australian **** and that silly Jock. And Brexit:-( Yip, Brexit is now very boring. |
Moving a piano
On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 6:59:45 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
ARW wrote: On 31/08/2019 17:13, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: ARW wrote: On 31/08/2019 10:34, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: ARW wrote: Any tips? This is from one town to another town about a 150 miles away. How to get it on the van, secure it down etc. And how do you get it through a front door? Thanks Don't be such a tight fisted ****. Get the men in. https://www.anyvan.com/av/low-cost-p...SAAEgI1nPD_BwE Tight fisted my arse. They will want about £500. This is DIY. And where have you been? Hopefully on holiday or somewhere nice as you have not posted for a while. I've not read much worth replying to. The group seems to be infested by that stupid Australian **** and that silly Jock. And Brexit:-( Yip, Brexit is now very boring. I thought most pianos where put together by dismantle joints. I know the one we had at home could have the keyboard cover pulled up and off. The front top panelwas held on by toggles as was the bottom panel and the top complete with lid could also be pulled off. |
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