Basically between two villages. No houses, no pubs nothing (apart from a
field on fire).

You know the names of the villages and that is all.

Could the phone operator not work it out?


--
Adam

ARW wrote:
Basically between two villages. No houses, no pubs nothing (apart from a
field on fire).

You know the names of the villages and that is all.

Could the phone operator not work it out?


Optimist! Ive found trying to give positions to emergency services an
incredibly frustrating experience. The main problem being that theyve not
heard of the internet and search engines. Also, it takes an age to get
through to anyone who can understand grid references or any normal system
of identifying position that doesnt involve street names and house
numbers.

€œWhat three words€� seems like a nice idea but I dont hold out much hope of
any operator understanding the idea.
https://what3words.com/daring.lion.race

Tim

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On 7 Aug 2019 21:10:09 GMT, Tim+ wrote:

What three words seems like a nice idea but I don t hold out much
hope of any operator understanding the idea.
https://what3words.com/daring.lion.race

And also relies on you having a useable mobile data connection to
look up the three words for the random bit of burning country side.

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Cheers
Dave.

On 07/08/2019 23:10, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On 7 Aug 2019 21:10:09 GMT, Tim+ wrote:

What three wordsâ seems like a nice idea but I donâ t hold out much
hope of any operator understanding the idea.
https://what3words.com/daring.lion.race

And also relies on you having a useable mobile data connection to
look up the three words for the random bit of burning country side.


Don't worry it will be out by the weekend when storm whatever
arrives

On 07/08/2019 23:10, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On 7 Aug 2019 21:10:09 GMT, Tim+ wrote:

What three wordsâ seems like a nice idea but I donâ t hold out much
hope of any operator understanding the idea.
https://what3words.com/daring.lion.race

And also relies on you having a useable mobile data connection to
look up the three words for the random bit of burning country side.

I suspect a signal strong enough to make a call will be enough to access
what3words.com

"Fredxx" wrote in message
...
On 07/08/2019 23:10, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On 7 Aug 2019 21:10:09 GMT, Tim+ wrote:

What three wordsâ seems like a nice idea but I donâ t hold out much
hope of any operator understanding the idea.
https://what3words.com/daring.lion.race

And also relies on you having a useable mobile data connection to
look up the three words for the random bit of burning country side.

I suspect a signal strong enough to make a call will be enough to access
what3words.com

I have seen a few times when calls were fine but data wasnt working.

On Fri, 9 Aug 2019 10:27:12 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


I suspect a signal strong enough to make a call will be enough to access
what3words.com

I have seen a few times when calls were fine but data wasn¢t working.

Hahahahaaa! Auto-contradicting senile asshole!

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"Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)"
MID:

On 09/08/2019 00:04, Fredxx wrote:
On 07/08/2019 23:10, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On 7 Aug 2019 21:10:09 GMT, Tim+ wrote:

What three wordsâÂ*Â* seems like a nice idea but I donâÂ* t hold out much
hope of any operator understanding the idea.
https://what3words.com/daring.lion.race

And also relies on you having a useable mobile data connection to
look up the three words for the random bit of burning country side.

I suspect a signal strong enough to make a call will be enough to access
what3words.com

You might want to keep mobile data turned off. (Mine costs £2 a day to
turn it on.)

--
Max Demian

On 07/08/2019 22:10, Tim+ wrote:
ARW wrote:
Basically between two villages. No houses, no pubs nothing (apart from a
field on fire).

You know the names of the villages and that is all.

Could the phone operator not work it out?


Optimist! Ive found trying to give positions to emergency services an
incredibly frustrating experience. The main problem being that theyve not
heard of the internet and search engines. Also, it takes an age to get
through to anyone who can understand grid references or any normal system
of identifying position that doesnt involve street names and house
numbers.

€œWhat three words€� seems like a nice idea but I dont hold out much hope of
any operator understanding the idea.
https://what3words.com/daring.lion.race

Tim

I believe that some emergency services are now using it. (It's something
we have been discussing in the context of bridleway users).

The thing is I seem to have no issues, but I imagine if its a sparsely
populated area, the place you are talking to may well be well away and
there is no local knowledge.
Somehow hear in London they tell me where I am if I've rung from a mobile of
recent vintage.
Obviously I've only had to do it recently about twice, but I guess some of
the larger call handling centres being not local is the main issue.
Brian

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On 07/08/2019 22:10, Tim+ wrote:
ARW wrote:
Basically between two villages. No houses, no pubs nothing (apart from a
field on fire).

You know the names of the villages and that is all.

Could the phone operator not work it out?


Optimist! I've found trying to give positions to emergency services an
incredibly frustrating experience. The main problem being that they've
not
heard of the internet and search engines. Also, it takes an age to get
through to anyone who can understand grid references or any normal system
of identifying position that doesn't involve street names and house
numbers.

"What three words" seems like a nice idea but I don't hold out much hope
of
any operator understanding the idea.
https://what3words.com/daring.lion.race

Tim

I believe that some emergency services are now using it. (It's something
we have been discussing in the context of bridleway users).

On Thursday, 8 August 2019 07:53:54 UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote:
Obviously I've only had to do it recently about twice, but I guess some of
the larger call handling centres being not local is the main issue.

London has addresses.

Try being in the country where there aren't even road names (and C roads aren't numbered on maps)

Owain

On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 07:53:47 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

The thing is I seem to have no issues, but I imagine if its a sparsely
populated area, the place you are talking to may well be well away and
there is no local knowledge.
Somehow hear in London they tell me where I am if I've rung from a mobile of
recent vintage.
Obviously I've only had to do it recently about twice, but I guess some of
the larger call handling centres being not local is the main issue.
Brian

Where you are, phone masts are thick in the air, so easy to
triangulate. The OP is talking about being in the wild.
--
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Tim+ wrote:
ARW wrote:
Basically between two villages. No houses, no pubs nothing (apart from a
field on fire).

You know the names of the villages and that is all.

Could the phone operator not work it out?


Optimist! Ive found trying to give positions to emergency services an
incredibly frustrating experience. The main problem being that theyve not
heard of the internet and search engines. Also, it takes an age to get
through to anyone who can understand grid references or any normal system
of identifying position that doesnt involve street names and house
numbers.

€œWhat three words€� seems like a nice idea but I dont hold out much hope of
any operator understanding the idea.
https://what3words.com/daring.lion.race

Tim




We have a perfectly good systems in the UK, the OS Grid System and Lat
Long, which you can access from most phones, car sat navs etc and the
Emergency services use, and are far more well known than things like
what3words.

What3words is and amusing toy, especially if you find the words somehow
link to the location but whereas an appropriate OS grid reference is still
useful, change one word in what3words and .......

On 08/08/2019 08:16, Brian Reay wrote:
Tim+ wrote:
ARW wrote:
Basically between two villages. No houses, no pubs nothing (apart from a
field on fire).

You know the names of the villages and that is all.

Could the phone operator not work it out?


Optimist! Ive found trying to give positions to emergency services an
incredibly frustrating experience. The main problem being that theyve not
heard of the internet and search engines. Also, it takes an age to get
through to anyone who can understand grid references or any normal system
of identifying position that doesnt involve street names and house
numbers.

€œWhat three words€� seems like a nice idea but I dont hold out much hope of
any operator understanding the idea.
https://what3words.com/daring.lion.race

Tim




We have a perfectly good systems in the UK, the OS Grid System and Lat
Long, which you can access from most phones, car sat navs etc and the
Emergency services use, and are far more well known than things like
what3words.

What3words is and amusing toy, especially if you find the words somehow
link to the location but whereas an appropriate OS grid reference is still
useful, change one word in what3words and .......

It is no toy, unless you're a child. It's an easy, effective way to
provide a location within 10m.

Change one number or letter in an OS grid...........

On 08/08/2019 08:16, Brian Reay wrote:
Tim+ wrote:
ARW wrote:
Basically between two villages. No houses, no pubs nothing (apart from a
field on fire).

You know the names of the villages and that is all.

Could the phone operator not work it out?


Optimist! I’ve found trying to give positions to emergency services an
incredibly frustrating experience. The main problem being that they’ve not
heard of the internet and search engines. Also, it takes an age to get
through to anyone who can understand grid references or any normal system
of identifying position that doesn’t involve street names and house
numbers.

“What three words” seems like a nice idea but I don’t hold out much hope of
any operator understanding the idea.
https://what3words.com/daring.lion.race

Tim




We have a perfectly good systems in the UK, the OS Grid System and Lat
Long, which you can access from most phones, car sat navs etc and the
Emergency services use, and are far more well known than things like
what3words.

What3words is and amusing toy, especially if you find the words somehow
link to the location but whereas an appropriate OS grid reference is still
useful, change one word in what3words and .......

It is no toy, unless you're a child. It's an easy, effective way to
provide a location within 10m.

Change one number or letter in an OS grid...........

///monks.adjust.matter is our local tip
///monk.adjust.matter is Powstancow Slaskich, Zernica, Poland

--
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%Profound_observation%

On 09/08/2019 00:46, Graham. wrote:
On 08/08/2019 08:16, Brian Reay wrote:
Tim+ wrote:
ARW wrote:
Basically between two villages. No houses, no pubs nothing (apart from a
field on fire).

You know the names of the villages and that is all.

Could the phone operator not work it out?


Optimist! Ive found trying to give positions to emergency services an
incredibly frustrating experience. The main problem being that theyve not
heard of the internet and search engines. Also, it takes an age to get
through to anyone who can understand grid references or any normal system
of identifying position that doesnt involve street names and house
numbers.

€œWhat three words€� seems like a nice idea but I dont hold out much hope of
any operator understanding the idea.
https://what3words.com/daring.lion.race

Tim




We have a perfectly good systems in the UK, the OS Grid System and Lat
Long, which you can access from most phones, car sat navs etc and the
Emergency services use, and are far more well known than things like
what3words.

What3words is and amusing toy, especially if you find the words somehow
link to the location but whereas an appropriate OS grid reference is still
useful, change one word in what3words and .......

It is no toy, unless you're a child. It's an easy, effective way to
provide a location within 10m.

Change one number or letter in an OS grid...........

///monks.adjust.matter is our local tip
///monk.adjust.matter is Powstancow Slaskich, Zernica, Poland

So what you are confirming is a small slip is going to be very obvious.

"Graham." wrote in message
...
On 08/08/2019 08:16, Brian Reay wrote:
Tim+ wrote:
ARW wrote:
Basically between two villages. No houses, no pubs nothing (apart from
a
field on fire).

You know the names of the villages and that is all.

Could the phone operator not work it out?


Optimist! I've found trying to give positions to emergency services an
incredibly frustrating experience. The main problem being that they've
not
heard of the internet and search engines. Also, it takes an age to get
through to anyone who can understand grid references or any normal
system
of identifying position that doesn't involve street names and house
numbers.

"What three words" seems like a nice idea but I don't hold out much
hope of
any operator understanding the idea.
https://what3words.com/daring.lion.race

Tim




We have a perfectly good systems in the UK, the OS Grid System and Lat
Long, which you can access from most phones, car sat navs etc and the
Emergency services use, and are far more well known than things like
what3words.

What3words is and amusing toy, especially if you find the words somehow
link to the location but whereas an appropriate OS grid reference is
still
useful, change one word in what3words and .......

It is no toy, unless you're a child. It's an easy, effective way to
provide a location within 10m.

Change one number or letter in an OS grid...........

///monks.adjust.matter is our local tip
///monk.adjust.matter is Powstancow Slaskich, Zernica, Poland

Urk, that's very bad design.

On Fri, 09 Aug 2019 00:46:12 +0100, Graham. wrote:

It is no toy, unless you're a child. It's an easy, effective way to
provide a location within 10m.

Change one number or letter in an OS grid...........

///monks.adjust.matter is our local tip ///monk.adjust.matter is
Powstancow Slaskich, Zernica, Poland

That's a deliberate design decision, so that you know it's wrong.

Some emergency services do use it. As it happens, I was reading an
article in Engineering & Technology Magazine just an hour or so ago.
Here's the link to the online copy:

https://tinyurl.com/y6epj4j2



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"Fredxx" wrote in message
...
On 08/08/2019 08:16, Brian Reay wrote:
Tim+ wrote:
ARW wrote:
Basically between two villages. No houses, no pubs nothing (apart from
a
field on fire).

You know the names of the villages and that is all.

Could the phone operator not work it out?


Optimist! Ive found trying to give positions to emergency services an
incredibly frustrating experience. The main problem being that theyve
not
heard of the internet and search engines. Also, it takes an age to get
through to anyone who can understand grid references or any normal
system
of identifying position that doesnt involve street names and house
numbers.

€œWhat three words€� seems like a nice idea but I dont hold out much hope
of
any operator understanding the idea.
https://what3words.com/daring.lion.race

Tim




We have a perfectly good systems in the UK, the OS Grid System and Lat
Long, which you can access from most phones, car sat navs etc and the
Emergency services use, and are far more well known than things like
what3words.

What3words is and amusing toy, especially if you find the words somehow
link to the location but whereas an appropriate OS grid reference is
still
useful, change one word in what3words and .......

It is no toy, unless you're a child. It's an easy, effective way to
provide a location within 10m.

Change one number or letter in an OS grid...........

Pretty ****ed here. When using the browser it uses the isp registered
address.

When using the app, the blue dot jumps around a lot on a very zoomed
in map. Cant see that working well tor technoklutzes in a real emergency.
Makes more sense to just call with the mobile and use the completely
automatic location transmission to 999 etc.

On Fri, 9 Aug 2019 10:34:59 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


It is no toy, unless you're a child. It's an easy, effective way to
provide a location within 10m.

Change one number or letter in an OS grid...........

Pretty ****ed here.

Nobody talked about you, senile asshole!

--
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cretin from Oz:
https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/

Tim+ wrote:
ARW wrote:
Basically between two villages. No houses, no pubs nothing (apart from a
field on fire).

You know the names of the villages and that is all.

Could the phone operator not work it out?


Optimist! I’ve found trying to give positions to emergency services an
incredibly frustrating experience. The main problem being that they’ve not
heard of the internet and search engines. Also, it takes an age to get
through to anyone who can understand grid references or any normal system
of identifying position that doesn’t involve street names and house
numbers.

“What three words” seems like a nice idea but I don’t hold out much hope of
any operator understanding the idea.
https://what3words.com/daring.lion.race

Tim




We have a perfectly good systems in the UK, the OS Grid System and Lat
Long, which you can access from most phones, car sat navs etc and the
Emergency services use, and are far more well known than things like
what3words.

What3words is and amusing toy, especially if you find the words somehow
link to the location but whereas an appropriate OS grid reference is still
useful, change one word in what3words and .......


NGRs seem archaic compared to lat/long in this context. If someone
calls for help they are likely to have access to GPS, not an OS map

I suppose our quaint British NGR is only an algorithm away, but why
complicate things?


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%Profound_observation%

"Tim+" wrote in message
...
ARW wrote:
Basically between two villages. No houses, no pubs nothing (apart from a
field on fire).

You know the names of the villages and that is all.

Could the phone operator not work it out?


Optimist! Ive found trying to give positions to emergency services an
incredibly frustrating experience. The main problem being that theyve not
heard of the internet and search engines. Also, it takes an age to get
through to anyone who can understand grid references or any normal system
of identifying position that doesnt involve street names and house
numbers.

€œWhat three words€� seems like a nice idea but I dont hold out much hope
of
any operator understanding the idea.
https://what3words.com/daring.lion.race

When I had to report a crash on the opposite carriageway of the M1 late at
night, I used the "M1 A 123.4" emergency location sign, but said "Accident
is on the opposite B carriageway, roughly opposite this sign". The operator
wanted to know the f-ing postcode! When I couldn't give one (random
locations on motorways don't have postcodes) she asked what junction or
service station I had last passed. I'd no idea: I was somewhere in the
middle of my journey, a long way from the junctions I'd joined at and was
planning to leave it, so my location was "somewhere in between". I could
give a very rough idea, but no more than that.

I was rather horrified that the police 999 operator couldn't handle the
information on the "M1 A 123.4" sign, because they are there for this very
purpose: giving a location in the event of an emergency. When I got home I
emailed the police force for that area to report the problem because there
was clearly a training issue. I had a reply saying that they'd found the
recording of my call and agreed that I had been very precise and very
unambiguous and had given all the information that the operator *should*
have needed. The control room had identified that more training was
needed...

On a previous occasion I had to give my postcode, and the operator had
difficulty understanding the radio phonetic alphabet, which was an even
worse deficiency of training. She asked me to give the letters their normal
names, and then we had the expected "is that P or B" scenario that the
phonetic alphabet is designed to avoid.

"NY" wrote in message
...
"Tim+" wrote in message
...
ARW wrote:
Basically between two villages. No houses, no pubs nothing (apart from a
field on fire).

You know the names of the villages and that is all.

Could the phone operator not work it out?


Optimist! Ive found trying to give positions to emergency services an
incredibly frustrating experience. The main problem being that theyve
not
heard of the internet and search engines. Also, it takes an age to get
through to anyone who can understand grid references or any normal system
of identifying position that doesnt involve street names and house
numbers.

€œWhat three words€� seems like a nice idea but I dont hold out much hope
of
any operator understanding the idea.
https://what3words.com/daring.lion.race

When I had to report a crash on the opposite carriageway of the M1 late at
night, I used the "M1 A 123.4" emergency location sign, but said "Accident
is on the opposite B carriageway, roughly opposite this sign". The
operator wanted to know the f-ing postcode! When I couldn't give one
(random locations on motorways don't have postcodes) she asked what
junction or service station I had last passed. I'd no idea: I was
somewhere in the middle of my journey, a long way from the junctions I'd
joined at and was planning to leave it, so my location was "somewhere in
between". I could give a very rough idea, but no more than that.

I was rather horrified that the police 999 operator couldn't handle the
information on the "M1 A 123.4" sign, because they are there for this very
purpose: giving a location in the event of an emergency. When I got home I
emailed the police force for that area to report the problem because there
was clearly a training issue. I had a reply saying that they'd found the
recording of my call and agreed that I had been very precise and very
unambiguous and had given all the information that the operator *should*
have needed. The control room had identified that more training was
needed...

On a previous occasion I had to give my postcode, and the operator had
difficulty understanding the radio phonetic alphabet, which was an even
worse deficiency of training.

Not just training. I use it routinely when talking to normal
call centers for internet services etc and I dont recall ever
having anyone not understand what I meant.

And I use the proper names having leant them
for the flying and amateur radio licenses.

She asked me to give the letters their normal names, and then we had the
expected "is that P or B" scenario that the phonetic alphabet is designed
to avoid.

"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...

On a previous occasion I had to give my postcode, and the operator had
difficulty understanding the radio phonetic alphabet, which was an even
worse deficiency of training.

Not just training. I use it routinely when talking to normal
call centers for internet services etc and I dont recall ever
having anyone not understand what I meant.

Yes I commonly use it for spelling out easily-confused words (eg our house
is called Pump Cottage, not Hump Cottage as someone wrote!) and for
postcodes where an error in a letter can either make an invalid postcode or
else one that points to somewhere else. Most call centres now seem to be
able to understand them; my experiences with the 999 operators were some 10
years ago so they may have improved now.

I remember once being stopped by the police for some minor offence - maybe a
brake light bulb that had failed - and being asked my address which I gave
them, spelling out the postcode phonetically. The police officer looked as
if he thought I was taking the **** by using "the police's" phonetic
alphabet to him ;-)

And I use the proper names having leant them
for the flying and amateur radio licenses.

Yes, my pet hate is people using their own words to represent the letters
instead of the standard ones ;-) I wonder when/why the words changed from
the George How Yoke set (as heard in some WWII films) to the Golf Hotel
Yankee ones. Probably to make them less English-centred for people who speak
other languages.

NY expressed precisely :
I remember once being stopped by the police for some minor offence - maybe a
brake light bulb that had failed - and being asked my address which I gave
them, spelling out the postcode phonetically. The police officer looked as if
he thought I was taking the **** by using "the police's" phonetic alphabet to
him ;-)

I always use phonetics when for my email, postcode, name and address,
when its important to get it absolutely correct.

"NY" wrote in message
...
"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...

On a previous occasion I had to give my postcode, and the operator had
difficulty understanding the radio phonetic alphabet, which was an even
worse deficiency of training.

Not just training. I use it routinely when talking to normal
call centers for internet services etc and I dont recall ever
having anyone not understand what I meant.

Yes I commonly use it for spelling out easily-confused words (eg our house
is called Pump Cottage, not Hump Cottage as someone wrote!) and for
postcodes where an error in a letter can either make an invalid postcode
or else one that points to somewhere else. Most call centres now seem to
be able to understand them; my experiences with the 999 operators were
some 10 years ago so they may have improved now.

I remember once being stopped by the police for some minor offence - maybe
a brake light bulb that had failed - and being asked my address which I
gave them, spelling out the postcode phonetically. The police officer
looked as if he thought I was taking the **** by using "the police's"
phonetic alphabet to him ;-)

In the old days, when the cops pulled you over for speeding,
they asked what you name was. When I told him what my
name was, you could see the little wheels in his head
spinning as he decided whether I was taking the ****.

He had the sense to not do anything
until he had seen my then paper license.

And I use the proper names having leant them
for the flying and amateur radio licenses.

Yes, my pet hate is people using their own words to represent the letters
instead of the standard ones ;-) I wonder when/why the words changed from
the George How Yoke set (as heard in some WWII films) to the Golf Hotel
Yankee ones. Probably to make them less English-centred for people who
speak other languages.

It was actually done so that there werent any similar sounding
words but were still commonly used words in english which
helps quite a lot when they are used in very poor quality
communications systems like in light aircraft which have
very high noise levels.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_p...phabet#History

On 08/08/2019 10:59, NY wrote:
"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...

On a previous occasion I had to give my postcode, and the operator
had difficulty understanding the radio phonetic alphabet, which was
an even worse deficiency of training.

Not just training. I use it routinely when talking to normal
call centers for internet services etc and I dont recall ever
having anyone not understand what I meant.

Yes I commonly use it for spelling out easily-confused words (eg our
house is called Pump Cottage, not Hump Cottage as someone wrote!) and
for postcodes where an error in a letter can either make an invalid
postcode or else one that points to somewhere else. Most call centres
now seem to be able to understand them; my experiences with the 999
operators were some 10 years ago so they may have improved now.

I remember once being stopped by the police for some minor offence -
maybe a brake light bulb that had failed - and being asked my address
which I gave them, spelling out the postcode phonetically. The police
officer looked as if he thought I was taking the **** by using "the
police's" phonetic alphabet to him ;-)

And I use the proper names having leant them
for the flying and amateur radio licenses.

Yes, my pet hate is people using their own words to represent the
letters instead of the standard ones ;-)

P for pterodactyl; C for ctenophore; A for aisle.

Most people don't know the official ones, and sometimes the person the
other end thinks that sierra begins with a C.

--
Max Demian

In article , NY writes
"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...

On a previous occasion I had to give my postcode, and the operator
had difficulty understanding the radio phonetic alphabet, which was
an even worse deficiency of training.

Not just training. I use it routinely when talking to normal
call centers for internet services etc and I dont recall ever
having anyone not understand what I meant.

Yes I commonly use it for spelling out easily-confused words (eg our
house is called Pump Cottage, not Hump Cottage as someone wrote!) and
for postcodes where an error in a letter can either make an invalid
postcode or else one that points to somewhere else. Most call centres
now seem to be able to understand them; my experiences with the 999
operators were some 10 years ago so they may have improved now.

I remember once being stopped by the police for some minor offence -
maybe a brake light bulb that had failed - and being asked my address
which I gave them, spelling out the postcode phonetically. The police
officer looked as if he thought I was taking the **** by using "the
police's" phonetic alphabet to him ;-)

And I use the proper names having leant them
for the flying and amateur radio licenses.

Yes, my pet hate is people using their own words to represent the
letters instead of the standard ones ;-) I wonder when/why the words
changed from the George How Yoke set (as heard in some WWII films) to
the Golf Hotel Yankee ones. Probably to make them less English-centred
for people who speak other languages.
NATO
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On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 19:48:03 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


On a previous occasion I had to give my postcode, and the operator had
difficulty understanding the radio phonetic alphabet, which was an even
worse deficiency of training.

Not

LOL Pathological auto-contradicting senile idiot!

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And I use the proper names having leant them
for the flying and amateur radio licenses.

I can remember when it was just amateurs, pilots, police, and travel
agents. Also, to a lesser degree, the twenty-four hour clock.

Of course things can go too far, once a young girl gave me a cryptic
password over the phone, and pronounced "#" as "hashtag"

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"Graham." wrote in message
...


And I use the proper names having leant them
for the flying and amateur radio licenses.

I can remember when it was just amateurs, pilots, police, and travel
agents. Also, to a lesser degree, the twenty-four hour clock.

Of course things can go too far, once a young girl gave me a cryptic
password over the phone, and pronounced "#" as "hashtag"

Yeah, I usually call @ snail, quite a few in computing do.

On Wednesday, 7 August 2019 22:10:13 UTC+1, Tim+ wrote:
ARW wrote:
Basically between two villages. No houses, no pubs nothing (apart from a
field on fire).

You know the names of the villages and that is all.

Could the phone operator not work it out?


Optimist! Ive found trying to give positions to emergency services an
incredibly frustrating experience. The main problem being that theyve not
heard of the internet and search engines. Also, it takes an age to get
through to anyone who can understand grid references or any normal system
of identifying position that doesnt involve street names and house
numbers.

€œWhat three words€� seems like a nice idea but I dont hold out much hope of
any operator understanding the idea.
https://what3words.com/daring.lion.race

The problem is that you usually end up talking to someone that is not local and doesn't know where anything is.
You can only tell them the road number if you know it.

If it's a fire, there's usually smoke to guide. Anything else is a problem.

Google earth has got to be the best way to find a street name.

I used to drive a minibus and on one journey taking people home one lady on the bus looked very unwell. I phoned the emergency services and said I was on the A321 between Twyford, Berkshire
and Wokingham just south of a road called Broad Hinton. I thought this was fairly clear.
But then the operator asked where Twyford was and where Wokingham was. So I ended up having to say that Twyford was about halfway between Reading and Maidenhead and then the same thing for Wokingham. And all the time my passenger was looking more and more distressed.
Can't say I was very impressed at all with the call handling aspect. Once the ambulance services arrived they were of course excellent.

Lawrie

Lawrie Davidson wrote:
I used to drive a minibus and on one journey taking people home one lady
on the bus looked very unwell. I phoned the emergency services and said I
was on the A321 between Twyford, Berkshire
and Wokingham just south of a road called Broad Hinton. I thought this was fairly clear.
But then the operator asked where Twyford was and where Wokingham was. So
I ended up having to say that Twyford was about halfway between Reading
and Maidenhead and then the same thing for Wokingham. And all the time my
passenger was looking more and more distressed.
Can't say I was very impressed at all with the call handling aspect. Once
the ambulance services arrived they were of course excellent.

Lawrie


Matches my experience. There seems to be a complete inability to look
anything up on any sort of online mapping facility.

Tim

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In message , ARW
writes
Basically between two villages. No houses, no pubs nothing (apart from
a field on fire).

You know the names of the villages and that is all.

Could the phone operator not work it out?



Would they be able to work with What Three Words ?

Adrian
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On 07/08/2019 22:13, Adrian wrote:
In message , ARW
writes
Basically between two villages. No houses, no pubs nothing (apart from
a field on fire).

You know the names of the villages and that is all.

Could the phone operator not work it out?



Would they be able to work with What Three Words ?


Field on fire next to the road between Branton and Auckley?





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In message , ARW
writes
On 07/08/2019 22:13, Adrian wrote:
In message , ARW
writes
Basically between two villages. No houses, no pubs nothing (apart
from a field on fire).

You know the names of the villages and that is all.

Could the phone operator not work it out?


Would they be able to work with What Three Words ?


Field on fire next to the road between Branton and Auckley?


https://what3words.com/unpacked.width.outsmart ?


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On 07/08/2019 23:26, Adrian wrote:
In message , ARW
writes
On 07/08/2019 22:13, Adrian wrote:
In message , ARW
writes
Basically between two villages. No houses, no pubs nothing (apart
fromÂ* a field on fire).

You know the names of the villages and that is all.

Could the phone operator not work it out?


Â*Would they be able to work with What Three Words ?


Field on fire next to the road between Branton and Auckley?


https://what3words.com/unpacked.width.outsmart ?


Just tried that link, when I hit the "current location" button it drops
the pin about half a mile north of me.

On 07/08/2019 23:51, newshound wrote:
On 07/08/2019 23:26, Adrian wrote:
In message , ARW
writes
On 07/08/2019 22:13, Adrian wrote:
In message , ARW
writes
Basically between two villages. No houses, no pubs nothing (apart
fromÂ* a field on fire).

You know the names of the villages and that is all.

Could the phone operator not work it out?


Â*Would they be able to work with What Three Words ?


Field on fire next to the road between Branton and Auckley?


https://what3words.com/unpacked.width.outsmart ?


Just tried that link, when I hit the "current location" button it drops
the pin about half a mile north of me.

This is on a desktop, with no GPS of course. OTOH Google Maps on the
same machine finds the right house.

On 07/08/2019 23:51, newshound wrote:
On 07/08/2019 23:26, Adrian wrote:
In message , ARW
writes
On 07/08/2019 22:13, Adrian wrote:
In message , ARW
writes
Basically between two villages. No houses, no pubs nothing (apart
fromÂ* a field on fire).

You know the names of the villages and that is all.

Could the phone operator not work it out?


Â*Would they be able to work with What Three Words ?


Field on fire next to the road between Branton and Auckley?


https://what3words.com/unpacked.width.outsmart ?


Just tried that link, when I hit the "current location" button it drops
the pin about half a mile north of me.

I just tried it and it places me just to the south of York - which is
wrong by about 50 miles and not even in the right Riding of Yorkshire.

We fairly recently discovered that the official gazette of postcodes had
our village hall "officially" located in the middle of a farm field -
which was where the secretary lived back in the 1960's. It has now been
corrected. Firebrigade apparently use some odd building code or other so
it isn't clear whether the wrong official postcode would have been a
problem. Noone lives there and it has no postbox (hence no actual code).

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