Hi,
Our current diy project is refitting the kitchen. We are not making
any major alterations, as the use of space in the kitchen is at its
optimum presently. The following jobs are to be done:
A. Changing the kitchen cabinets
B. Tiling the floor (currently a horrible pink lino)
C. Removing and putting new tiles on the wall (as splashback)
D. Removing Oven and fitting new one
E. Removing Extractor fan and putting new one
F. Changing Sink
G. New Worktop
H. Painting the walls.

This project will be our biggest diy job so far, and I don't really
know where to start (I guess the most difficult part of any job is
where to start). In what sequence would you suggest we start the
project? Did I think of everything that has to be done?

Thanks a lot.
Simulet

On 23 Feb 2004 05:51:39 -0800, (simulet) wrote:

Hi,
Our current diy project is refitting the kitchen. We are not making
any major alterations, as the use of space in the kitchen is at its
optimum presently. The following jobs are to be done:
A. Changing the kitchen cabinets
B. Tiling the floor (currently a horrible pink lino)
C. Removing and putting new tiles on the wall (as splashback)
D. Removing Oven and fitting new one
E. Removing Extractor fan and putting new one
F. Changing Sink
G. New Worktop
H. Painting the walls.

This project will be our biggest diy job so far, and I don't really
know where to start (I guess the most difficult part of any job is
where to start). In what sequence would you suggest we start the
project? Did I think of everything that has to be done?

Thanks a lot.
Simulet

Remove old kitchen furniture and appliances including sink and oven.
Fix up temporary arrangement for these if you can.
Remove old wall tiles and flooring and thoroughly clean.

First fit any electrics and plumbing to positions of use - i.e. wiring
+ boxes and pipework.

Fit new cabinets but not doors.

Fit new extractor fan and oven

Fit worktop with hole cut for sink.

Fit sink.

Fit floor tiles, tiling under cabinets part way.

Fit wall tiles.

Final electrical fit of sockets etc.

Painting.










..andy

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On 23 Feb 2004 05:51:39 -0800, (simulet) wrote:

Hi,
Our current diy project is refitting the kitchen. We are not making
any major alterations, as the use of space in the kitchen is at its
optimum presently. The following jobs are to be done:
A. Changing the kitchen cabinets
B. Tiling the floor (currently a horrible pink lino)
C. Removing and putting new tiles on the wall (as splashback)
D. Removing Oven and fitting new one
E. Removing Extractor fan and putting new one
F. Changing Sink
G. New Worktop
H. Painting the walls.

This project will be our biggest diy job so far, and I don't really
know where to start (I guess the most difficult part of any job is
where to start). In what sequence would you suggest we start the
project? Did I think of everything that has to be done?

Thanks a lot.
Simulet

Remove old kitchen furniture and appliances including sink and oven.
Fix up temporary arrangement for these if you can.
Remove old wall tiles and flooring and thoroughly clean.

First fit any electrics and plumbing to positions of use - i.e. wiring
+ boxes and pipework.

Fit new cabinets but not doors.

Fit new extractor fan and oven

Fit worktop with hole cut for sink.

Fit sink.

Fit floor tiles, tiling under cabinets part way.

Fit wall tiles.

Final electrical fit of sockets etc.

Painting.

I agree with the above but have often tiled the floor first (if solid
concrete) so that units without kick boards can be chosen if desired.
Depends how much area the units will occupy but often not much in it and a
neater job can be done of the tiling then just plonk the units on the tiles.

Rob

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 16:27:36 -0000, "Kalico" wrote:



I agree with the above but have often tiled the floor first (if solid
concrete) so that units without kick boards can be chosen if desired.
Depends how much area the units will occupy but often not much in it and a
neater job can be done of the tiling then just plonk the units on the tiles.

Rob

That's true. However, if base units with kickboards are to be used
then it is only necessary to tile up to just underneath the kickboards
and of course all the way back to the wall where there are free
standing appliances. If the flooring is relatively expensive, then
this can be quite a cost saving.


..andy

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(simulet) wrote:

Hello simulet

s| This project will be our biggest diy job so far, and I don't
s| really know where to start (I guess the most difficult part
s| of any job is where to start). In what sequence would you
s| suggest we start the project? Did I think of everything
s| that has to be done?

Floor tiles LAST, after everything, even painting. Otherwise you can
guarantee something will break them, or you'll drop paint or grout on
them.

As for the rest - it can be done pretty much in any order. I'd prolly
do one side of the room at a time, that should give you enough left
behind to live with if things don't go smoothly and you don't end up
rushing or getting ill-tempered because you need to go down to B&Q to
get a 3/8ths wangle-shaft and you're being shouted at because the
sink's out...

Rushing DIY jobs just messes them up, ime.

--
Simon Avery, Dartmoor, UK
uk.d-i-y FAQ: http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/

Hi,
I understand that kickboards are plinths (!?). Well the hubby wants
to have tiling under the cabinets as well, and I want to have a plinth
(more practical for cleaning).

Thanks for the order, it certainly makes it "easier" to start now.

Do you know how much it costs roughly to have a gas oven removed? I
was looking in the Classified Ads but could not find a person/ company
who could do such stuffs.

Simulet

Andy Hall wrote in message . ..
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 16:27:36 -0000, "Kalico" wrote:



That's true. However, if base units with kickboards are to be used
then it is only necessary to tile up to just underneath the kickboards
and of course all the way back to the wall where there are free
standing appliances. If the flooring is relatively expensive, then
this can be quite a cost saving.


.andy

"Simon Avery" wrote in message
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(simulet) wrote:

Hello simulet

s| This project will be our biggest diy job so far, and I don't
s| really know where to start (I guess the most difficult part
s| of any job is where to start). In what sequence would you
s| suggest we start the project? Did I think of everything
s| that has to be done?

Floor tiles LAST, after everything, even painting. Otherwise you can
guarantee something will break them, or you'll drop paint or grout on
them.


Clearly it depends on the design/ job in hand, and I am assuming ceramic tiles.

I removed my old quarry tiles after losening the old kitchen units and removing
as much of them as we could live without.

Prising up one tile typically losened the tile next to it, so removing just part
of the floor was no really an option.

Such tiles as I did leave behind (under the boiler and one of the walls were the
door had been moved), I had to cut with an angle grinder, a job which filled the
air with a fine dust that settled everywhere.

There was also the problem that the concrete base of the floor had sunk and was
no longer hoizontal.

After laying the new tiles, I always kept my heavy tools at ground level, to
reduce the chances of one of them falling on the floor and damaging a tile.

Generally I followed Andy's sequence. but I painted the ceiling and the walls
much earlier on. No point in flicking paint over new kitchen units, though
emulsion paint washes of easily enough.

One mistake I made was not to temporalily fit at least one of the cabinet doors
to check that the units were true and square before securing the worktop.

As for the rest - it can be done pretty much in any order. I'd prolly
do one side of the room at a time, that should give you enough left
behind to live with if things don't go smoothly and you don't end up
rushing or getting ill-tempered because you need to go down to B&Q to
get a 3/8ths wangle-shaft and you're being shouted at because the
sink's out...

I connected my old sink using old washing machine hoses and isolator valves. For
part of the time it resided outside over the drain. The hoses passed though the
wall via the drain hole.

Michael Chare

"Simon Avery" wrote in message
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(simulet) wrote:

Hello simulet

s| This project will be our biggest diy job so far, and I don't
s| really know where to start (I guess the most difficult part
s| of any job is where to start). In what sequence would you
s| suggest we start the project? Did I think of everything
s| that has to be done?

Floor tiles LAST, after everything, even painting. Otherwise you can
guarantee something will break them, or you'll drop paint or grout on
them.

As for the rest - it can be done pretty much in any order. I'd prolly
do one side of the room at a time, that should give you enough left
behind to live with if things don't go smoothly and you don't end up
rushing or getting ill-tempered because you need to go down to B&Q to
get a 3/8ths wangle-shaft and you're being shouted at because the
sink's out...

Rushing DIY jobs just messes them up, ime.


I'd plan to do any fitting essential to normal domestic life on a Saturday.
Since advent of Sunday Trading legislation 4:05PM on a Sunday is guaranteed
to be the time that a vital drill bit breaks or you discover you don't have
the correct sized spanner for a tap....



--
Richard Sampson

email me at
richard at olifant d-ot co do-t uk

(Simon Avery) wrote in message ...
(simulet) wrote:

s| This project will be our biggest diy job so far, and I don't
s| really know where to start (I guess the most difficult part
s| of any job is where to start). In what sequence would you
s| suggest we start the project? Did I think of everything
s| that has to be done?

Floor tiles LAST, after everything, even painting. Otherwise you can
guarantee something will break them, or you'll drop paint or grout on
them.

To be honest if I'm putting down a permanent-type floor like ceramic
or slate tiles, I put them down first on the grounds that a full
kitchen refurb is going to come round before the next renewal of the
floor covering. Different matter if it was a cheap, thin, vinyl floor
though. Much easier that way, although it may be prohibitively
(and/or painfully) expensive to fit floor covering where you'll never
see it! Our current kitchen features a SWMBO-designed peninsula,
which I can't stand; but it stands on a wall-to-wall covering of
ceramic floor tiles so I know that Next Time it won't to be much grief
to design out the peninsula. Maybe.

David