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Best and cheapest way to make woodshed base.
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writes I am thinking over the pros and cons of concrete versus concrete slabs on mortar. The sub base is loose gravel over MOT type 1 thats been down 16 years. I can use the loose gravel to make concrete with. Obviously with sand as well Area is 3m x 1.8m Seems to come aout around £120 no matter which way I look - anyone got hard info? I've got some 2" council type paving slabs going spare but you will have to fetch:-) (50 miles) -- Tim Lamb |
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On 22/05/2019 19:07, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , The Natural Philosopher writes I am thinking over the pros and cons of concrete versus concrete slabs on mortar. The sub base is loose gravel over MOT type 1 thats been down 16 years. I can use the loose gravel to make concrete with. Obviously with sand as well Area is 3m x 1.8m Seems to come aout around £120 no matter which way I look - anyone got hard info? I've got some 2" council type paving slabs going spare but you will have to fetch:-)Â* (50 miles) migt be worth it, at that...enough? -- All political activity makes complete sense once the proposition that all government is basically a self-legalising protection racket, is fully understood. |
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In message , The Natural Philosopher
writes On 22/05/2019 19:07, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , The Natural Philosopher writes I am thinking over the pros and cons of concrete versus concrete slabs on mortar. The sub base is loose gravel over MOT type 1 thats been down 16 years. I can use the loose gravel to make concrete with. Obviously with sand as well Area is 3m x 1.8m Seems to come aout around £120 no matter which way I look - anyone got hard info? I've got some 2" council type paving slabs going spare but you will have to fetch:-)* (50 miles) migt be worth it, at that...enough? 32. I can probably find a use for any leftover. You know they weigh about 40kg each! -- Tim Lamb |
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In message , The Natural Philosopher writes On 22/05/2019 19:07, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , The Natural Philosopher writes I am thinking over the pros and cons of concrete versus concrete slabs on mortar. The sub base is loose gravel over MOT type 1 thats been down 16 years. I can use the loose gravel to make concrete with. Obviously with sand as well Area is 3m x 1.8m Seems to come aout around £120 no matter which way I look - anyone got hard info? I've got some 2" council type paving slabs going spare but you will have to fetch:-) (50 miles) migt be worth it, at that...enough? 32. I can probably find a use for any leftover. You know they weigh about 40kg each! 10ft X 6 ft area? Think you'll have a few left! ;-) -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 22/05/2019 21:48, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , The Natural Philosopher writes On 22/05/2019 19:07, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , The Natural Philosopher writes I am thinking over the pros and cons of concrete versus concrete slabsÂ* on mortar. The sub base is loose gravel over MOT type 1 thats been down 16 years.Â* I can use the loose gravel to make concrete with. Obviously with sandÂ* as well Area is 3m x 1.8m Seems to come aout around £120 no matter which way I look - anyone gotÂ* hard info? Â*I've got some 2" council type paving slabs going spare but you will haveÂ* to fetch:-)Â* (50 miles) migt be worth it, at that...enough? 32. I can probably find a use for any leftover. You know they weigh about 40kg each! I need 10 if they are 600 x 900. 400 kg. I think the freelander would just about take that. It's probably a bit over the top, but its not a long way. -- The New Left are the people they warned you about. |
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In message , The Natural Philosopher
writes On 22/05/2019 21:48, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , The Natural Philosopher writes On 22/05/2019 19:07, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , The Natural Philosopher writes I am thinking over the pros and cons of concrete versus concrete slabs* on mortar. The sub base is loose gravel over MOT type 1 thats been down 16 years.* I can use the loose gravel to make concrete with. Obviously with sand* as well Area is 3m x 1.8m Seems to come aout around £120 no matter which way I look - anyone got* hard info? *I've got some 2" council type paving slabs going spare but you will have* to fetch:-)* (50 miles) migt be worth it, at that...enough? 32. I can probably find a use for any leftover. You know they weigh about 40kg each! I need 10 if they are 600 x 900. 400 kg. I think the freelander would just about take that. It's probably a bit over the top, but its not a long way. 600x600 or more likely 24" e-mail works. -- Tim Lamb |
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On Thu, 23 May 2019 08:50:50 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote: On 22/05/2019 21:48, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , The Natural Philosopher writes On 22/05/2019 19:07, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , The Natural Philosopher writes I am thinking over the pros and cons of concrete versus concrete slabs* on mortar. The sub base is loose gravel over MOT type 1 thats been down 16 years.* I can use the loose gravel to make concrete with. Obviously with sand* as well Area is 3m x 1.8m Seems to come aout around £120 no matter which way I look - anyone got* hard info? *I've got some 2" council type paving slabs going spare but you will have* to fetch:-)* (50 miles) migt be worth it, at that...enough? 32. I can probably find a use for any leftover. You know they weigh about 40kg each! I need 10 if they are 600 x 900. You only need them under the floor "joists" (assuming that the shed has a timber floor), not the whole area of the shed. |
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On 23/05/2019 10:15, Davidm wrote:
You only need them under the floor "joists" (assuming that the shed has a timber floor), not the whole area of the shed. Wrong assumption. -- How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think. Adolf Hitler |
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On 23/05/2019 08:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 22/05/2019 21:48, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , The Natural Philosopher writes On 22/05/2019 19:07, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , The Natural Philosopher writes I am thinking over the pros and cons of concrete versus concrete slabsÂ* on mortar. The sub base is loose gravel over MOT type 1 thats been down 16 years.Â* I can use the loose gravel to make concrete with. Obviously with sandÂ* as well Area is 3m x 1.8m Seems to come aout around £120 no matter which way I look - anyone gotÂ* hard info? Â*I've got some 2" council type paving slabs going spare but you will haveÂ* to fetch:-)Â* (50 miles) migt be worth it, at that...enough? 32. I can probably find a use for any leftover. You know they weigh about 40kg each! I need 10 if they are 600 x 900. 400 kg. I think the freelander would just about take that. It's probably a bit over the top, but its not a long way. Four people in a five seater car and luggage could easily be more than that and even a fiat 500 can cope with that. No wonder JLR can't sell their cars. |
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The Natural Philosopher Wrote in message:
On 23/05/2019 10:15, Davidm wrote: You only need them under the floor "joists" (assuming that the shed has a timber floor), not the whole area of the shed. Wrong assumption. On whose part? -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 23/05/2019 10:54, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 23/05/2019 10:15, Davidm wrote: You only need them under the floor "joists" (assuming that the shed has a timber floor), not the whole area of the shed. Wrong assumption. Why? It gives air movement underneath & stops rot. -- Dave The Medway Handyman |
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On 23/05/2019 17:36, TMH wrote:
On 23/05/2019 10:54, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 23/05/2019 10:15, Davidm wrote: You only need them under the floor "joists" (assuming that the shed has a timber floor), not the whole area of the shed. Wrong assumption. Why? It gives air movement underneath & stops rot. I suspect that the assumption that the shed has a timber floor is the one being corrected. Hence it needs a base that will also double as an internal floor. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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John Rumm wrote:
I suspect that the assumption that the shed has a timber floor is the one being corrected. Hence it needs a base that will also double as an internal floor. IIRC, it's a "woodshed" not a "wooden shed" |
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On 23/05/2019 16:44, dennis@home wrote:
On 23/05/2019 08:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 22/05/2019 21:48, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , The Natural Philosopher writes On 22/05/2019 19:07, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , The Natural Philosopher writes I am thinking over the pros and cons of concrete versus concrete slabsÂ* on mortar. The sub base is loose gravel over MOT type 1 thats been down 16 years.Â* I can use the loose gravel to make concrete with. Obviously with sandÂ* as well Area is 3m x 1.8m Seems to come aout around £120 no matter which way I look - anyone gotÂ* hard info? Â*I've got some 2" council type paving slabs going spare but you will haveÂ* to fetch:-)Â* (50 miles) migt be worth it, at that...enough? 32. I can probably find a use for any leftover. You know they weigh about 40kg each! I need 10 if they are 600 x 900. 400 kg. I think the freelander would just about take that. It's probably a bit over the top, but its not a long way. Four people in a five seater car and luggage could easily be more than that and even a fiat 500 can cope with that. No wonder JLR can't sell their cars. That weight is not all at one end of the car normally though, but yes, I'm sure a Freelander would take it. SteveW |
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On 23/05/2019 17:36, TMH wrote:
On 23/05/2019 10:54, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 23/05/2019 10:15, Davidm wrote: You only need them under the floor "joists" (assuming that the shed has a timber floor), not the whole area of the shed. Wrong assumption. Why? It gives air movement underneath & stops rot. Concrete doesn't rot. -- "When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him." Jonathan Swift. |
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On 23/05/2019 22:39, Steve Walker wrote:
On 23/05/2019 16:44, dennis@home wrote: On 23/05/2019 08:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 22/05/2019 21:48, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , The Natural Philosopher writes On 22/05/2019 19:07, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , The Natural Philosopher writes I am thinking over the pros and cons of concrete versus concrete slabsÂ* on mortar. The sub base is loose gravel over MOT type 1 thats been down 16 years.Â* I can use the loose gravel to make concrete with. Obviously with sandÂ* as well Area is 3m x 1.8m Seems to come aout around £120 no matter which way I look - anyone gotÂ* hard info? Â*I've got some 2" council type paving slabs going spare but you will haveÂ* to fetch:-)Â* (50 miles) migt be worth it, at that...enough? 32. I can probably find a use for any leftover. You know they weigh about 40kg each! I need 10 if they are 600 x 900. 400 kg. I think the freelander would just about take that. It's probably a bit over the top, but its not a long way. Four people in a five seater car and luggage could easily be more than that and even a fiat 500 can cope with that. No wonder JLR can't sell their cars. That weight is not all at one end of the car normally though, but yes, I'm sure a Freelander would take it. It is slightly obetr its rated limit, but I am sure it would take it SteveW -- "When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him." Jonathan Swift. |
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On 24/05/2019 06:32, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 23/05/2019 22:39, Steve Walker wrote: On 23/05/2019 16:44, dennis@home wrote: On 23/05/2019 08:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 22/05/2019 21:48, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , The Natural Philosopher writes On 22/05/2019 19:07, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , The Natural Philosopher writes I am thinking over the pros and cons of concrete versus concrete slabsÂ* on mortar. The sub base is loose gravel over MOT type 1 thats been down 16 years.Â* I can use the loose gravel to make concrete with. Obviously with sandÂ* as well Area is 3m x 1.8m Seems to come aout around £120 no matter which way I look - anyone gotÂ* hard info? Â*I've got some 2" council type paving slabs going spare but you will haveÂ* to fetch:-)Â* (50 miles) migt be worth it, at that...enough? 32. I can probably find a use for any leftover. You know they weigh about 40kg each! I need 10 if they are 600 x 900. 400 kg. I think the freelander would just about take that. It's probably a bit over the top, but its not a long way. Four people in a five seater car and luggage could easily be more than that and even a fiat 500 can cope with that. No wonder JLR can't sell their cars. That weight is not all at one end of the car normally though, but yes, I'm sure a Freelander would take it. It is slightly obetr its rated limit, but I am sure it would take it SteveW My car can do over 700kg so the LR is poor. |
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writes On 24/05/2019 06:32, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 23/05/2019 22:39, Steve Walker wrote: On 23/05/2019 16:44, dennis@home wrote: On 23/05/2019 08:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 22/05/2019 21:48, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , The Natural Philosopher writes On 22/05/2019 19:07, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , The Natural Philosopher writes I am thinking over the pros and cons of concrete versus concrete slabs* on mortar. The sub base is loose gravel over MOT type 1 thats been down 16 years.* I can use the loose gravel to make concrete with. Obviously with sand* as well Area is 3m x 1.8m Seems to come aout around £120 no matter which way I look - anyone got* hard info? *I've got some 2" council type paving slabs going spare but you will have* to fetch:-)* (50 miles) migt be worth it, at that...enough? 32. I can probably find a use for any leftover. You know they weigh about 40kg each! I need 10 if they are 600 x 900. 400 kg. I think the freelander would just about take that. It's probably a bit over the top, but its not a long way. Four people in a five seater car and luggage could easily be more than that and even a fiat 500 can cope with that. No wonder JLR can't sell their cars. That weight is not all at one end of the car normally though, but yes, I'm sure a Freelander would take it. It is slightly obetr its rated limit, but I am sure it would take it SteveW My car can do over 700kg so the LR is poor. Here to Kentford is 1 hour. 2 trips! -- Tim Lamb |
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On 24/05/2019 10:38, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , "dennis@home" writes On 24/05/2019 06:32, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 23/05/2019 22:39, Steve Walker wrote: On 23/05/2019 16:44, dennis@home wrote: On 23/05/2019 08:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 22/05/2019 21:48, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , The Natural Philosopher writes On 22/05/2019 19:07, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , The Natural PhilosopherÂ* writes I am thinking over the pros and cons of concrete versus concreteÂ* slabsÂ* on mortar. The sub base is loose gravel over MOT type 1 thats been down 16Â* years.Â* I can use the loose gravel to make concrete with. Obviously with sandÂ* as well Area is 3m x 1.8m Seems to come aout around £120 no matter which way I look - anyone gotÂ* hard info? Â*I've got some 2" council type paving slabs going spare but you will haveÂ* to fetch:-)Â* (50 miles) migt be worth it, at that...enough? 32. I can probably find a use for any leftover. You know they weighÂ* about 40kg each! I need 10 if they are 600 x 900. 400 kg. I think the freelander would just about take that. It's probably a bit over the top, but its not a long way. Four people in a five seater car and luggage could easily be more than that and even a fiat 500 can cope with that. No wonder JLR can't sell their cars. That weight is not all at one end of the car normally though, but yes,Â* I'm sure a Freelander would take it. Â*It is slightly obetr its rated limit, but I am sure it would take it SteveW My car can do over 700kg so the LR is poor. Here to Kentford is 1 hour. 2 trips! And probably none of the vicious speed bumps that militate against anything like a full load in London -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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On 24/05/2019 10:38, Tim Lamb wrote:
Here to Kentford is 1 hour. 2 trips! OK Tim how thick are these? If they are 600x600x50 they will be 40kg each.. But are they 35mm thick? -- There is nothing a fleet of dispatchable nuclear power plants cannot do that cannot be done worse and more expensively and with higher carbon emissions and more adverse environmental impact by adding intermittent renewable energy. |
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writes On 24/05/2019 10:38, Tim Lamb wrote: Here to Kentford is 1 hour. 2 trips! OK Tim how thick are these? If they are 600x600x50 they will be 40kg each.. But are they 35mm thick? They are all 50mm or 2". On closer inspection, I see 6 are straw coloured and 600x600 the rest are 24". Photo at http://s828.photobucket.com/user/Tim...5.19%20001.jpg ..html -- Tim Lamb |
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writes In message , The Natural Philosopher writes On 24/05/2019 10:38, Tim Lamb wrote: Here to Kentford is 1 hour. 2 trips! OK Tim how thick are these? If they are 600x600x50 they will be 40kg each.. But are they 35mm thick? They are all 50mm or 2". On closer inspection, I see 6 are straw coloured and 600x600 the rest are 24". Photo at http://s828.photobucket.com/user/TimLamb/media/Slabs%2024.05.19%20001.jpg .html Watch the wrap! -- Tim Lamb |
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