Hi,
This is really a continuation of the plasterbord ceiling
question.

I am about to redecorate a room and the artex ceiling is suffering
from splitting along the perimeter of the plasterboard panels.

I made a fairly strong mix of PVA and tile cement [it was white and
anything else resembling filler has long since formed "marbles"].

I whacked this on with a roller and it seems to be covering the
cracks. I'm tempted to continue with PVA and finishing plaster. Any
thoughts?

Incidentally the original reccomendation of flexible caulk sounded
brilliant, but with Artex :-(

AB

The gods do not deduct from man's allotted span
the hours spent in fishing.

~Babylonian Proverb

On 27/04/2019 09:53, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote:
Hi,
This is really a continuation of the plasterbord ceiling
question.

I am about to redecorate a room and the artex ceiling is suffering
from splitting along the perimeter of the plasterboard panels.

I made a fairly strong mix of PVA and tile cement [it was white and
anything else resembling filler has long since formed "marbles"].

I whacked this on with a roller and it seems to be covering the
cracks. I'm tempted to continue with PVA and finishing plaster. Any
thoughts?

Incidentally the original reccomendation of flexible caulk sounded
brilliant, but with Artex :-(

AB

The gods do not deduct from man's allotted span
the hours spent in fishing.

~Babylonian Proverb


You will never avoid cracks at the 90 degree joint between wall and
ceiling unless you install an aircon system that keeps the room at
a constant humidity and temperature all year round.

As we go from winter (heating on full, dry air) to July (hot and
humid) the ceiling will expand and contract naturally.

The only viable solution is to put up decent coving. This will
act as a 'flexible' joint cover.

Either that or overboard it with decorative panels like the
ones made by Parador (German company) which have a special
decorative edging strip.

Or you could just do it the quick-n-cheap way, by using
something like Polycell Fine Surface filler and push this
into the cracks using your finger.

On 27/04/2019 12:51, Andrew wrote:
You will never avoid cracks at the 90 degree joint between wall and
ceiling unless you install an aircon system that keeps the room at
a constant humidity and temperature all year round.

Utter ********


--
Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have
guns, why should we let them have ideas?

Josef Stalin

On Saturday, 27 April 2019 09:53:08 UTC+1, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote:

Hi,
This is really a continuation of the plasterbord ceiling
question.

I am about to redecorate a room and the artex ceiling is suffering
from splitting along the perimeter of the plasterboard panels.

I made a fairly strong mix of PVA and tile cement [it was white and
anything else resembling filler has long since formed "marbles"].

I whacked this on with a roller and it seems to be covering the
cracks. I'm tempted to continue with PVA and finishing plaster. Any
thoughts?

Incidentally the original reccomendation of flexible caulk sounded
brilliant, but with Artex :-(

AB

You can certainly use that as filler.


NT

On 27/04/2019 12:52, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 27/04/2019 12:51, Andrew wrote:
You will never avoid cracks at the 90 degree joint between wall and
ceiling unless you install an aircon system that keeps the room at
a constant humidity and temperature all year round.

Utter ********



Non-negotiable fact.

We don't all live in 'kit build' 'faux timber framed'
buildings like yours.

On 27/04/2019 13:34, wrote:
On Saturday, 27 April 2019 09:53:08 UTC+1, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote:

Hi,
This is really a continuation of the plasterbord ceiling
question.

I am about to redecorate a room and the artex ceiling is suffering
from splitting along the perimeter of the plasterboard panels.

I made a fairly strong mix of PVA and tile cement [it was white and
anything else resembling filler has long since formed "marbles"].

I whacked this on with a roller and it seems to be covering the
cracks. I'm tempted to continue with PVA and finishing plaster. Any
thoughts?

Incidentally the original reccomendation of flexible caulk sounded
brilliant, but with Artex :-(

AB

You can certainly use that as filler.


NT


You could always buy bag of artex-repair or even the proper stuff
and just mix a stodgier mix and use that as filler.

On 27/04/2019 13:47, Andrew wrote:
On 27/04/2019 12:52, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 27/04/2019 12:51, Andrew wrote:
You will never avoid cracks at the 90 degree joint between wall and
ceiling unless you install an aircon system that keeps the room at
a constant humidity and temperature all year round.

Utter ********



Non-negotiable fact.

We don't all live in 'kit build' 'faux timber framed'
buildings like yours.

non negotiable fact. It doesnt make a blind bit of difference,

And my house is not kit built and is 100% real wood framed.



--
"It is an established fact to 97% confidence limits that left wing
conspirators see right wing conspiracies everywhere"

On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 13:49:17 +0100, Andrew
wrote:

On 27/04/2019 13:34, wrote:
On Saturday, 27 April 2019 09:53:08 UTC+1, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote:

Hi,
This is really a continuation of the plasterbord ceiling
question.

I am about to redecorate a room and the artex ceiling is suffering
from splitting along the perimeter of the plasterboard panels.

I made a fairly strong mix of PVA and tile cement [it was white and
anything else resembling filler has long since formed "marbles"].

I whacked this on with a roller and it seems to be covering the
cracks. I'm tempted to continue with PVA and finishing plaster. Any
thoughts?

Incidentally the original reccomendation of flexible caulk sounded
brilliant, but with Artex :-(

AB

You can certainly use that as filler.


NT


You could always buy bag of artex-repair or even the proper stuff
and just mix a stodgier mix and use that as filler.

Thanks,
I thought the plaster/ PVA mix might work it's way into
the almost hairline crack. I am tempted to give it a go and it would
have the advantage of "smoothing" the Artex a bit.

I have flexible caulk for the ceiling/ wall junction and know exactly
where you are coming from with your humidity/ temperature statement.

It is logical and I cannot understand why every ceiling doesn't crack
along the plasterboard edges.

I also find it difficult to comprehend why a mesh in concrete aids
strength, when it seems more likely that the differing expansion rates
would leave a buckled mesh with cracked concrete adhering in a few
places.

AB

On Saturday, 27 April 2019 16:45:12 UTC+1, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote:
On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 13:49:17 +0100, Andrew
wrote:
On 27/04/2019 13:34, tabbypurr wrote:
On Saturday, 27 April 2019 09:53:08 UTC+1, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote:

Hi,
This is really a continuation of the plasterbord ceiling
question.

I am about to redecorate a room and the artex ceiling is suffering
from splitting along the perimeter of the plasterboard panels.

I made a fairly strong mix of PVA and tile cement [it was white and
anything else resembling filler has long since formed "marbles"].

I whacked this on with a roller and it seems to be covering the
cracks. I'm tempted to continue with PVA and finishing plaster. Any
thoughts?

Incidentally the original reccomendation of flexible caulk sounded
brilliant, but with Artex :-(

AB

You can certainly use that as filler.


NT


You could always buy bag of artex-repair or even the proper stuff
and just mix a stodgier mix and use that as filler.

Thanks,
I thought the plaster/ PVA mix might work it's way into
the almost hairline crack. I am tempted to give it a go and it would
have the advantage of "smoothing" the Artex a bit.

any filler works. People put way too much emphasis on their fear that it will fall out or fail to stop recracking.

I have flexible caulk for the ceiling/ wall junction and know exactly
where you are coming from with your humidity/ temperature statement.

It is logical and I cannot understand why every ceiling doesn't crack
along the plasterboard edges.

I also find it difficult to comprehend why a mesh in concrete aids
strength, when it seems more likely that the differing expansion rates
would leave a buckled mesh with cracked concrete adhering in a few
places.

AB

differing expansion rates only show up if you temperature swing it enough.


NT

On Saturday, 27 April 2019 09:53:08 UTC+1, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote:
Hi,
This is really a continuation of the plasterbord ceiling
question.

I am about to redecorate a room and the artex ceiling is suffering
from splitting along the perimeter of the plasterboard panels.

I made a fairly strong mix of PVA and tile cement [it was white and
anything else resembling filler has long since formed "marbles"].

I whacked this on with a roller and it seems to be covering the
cracks. I'm tempted to continue with PVA and finishing plaster. Any
thoughts?


You need to put scrim over the joints before you put anything on top.
This is a complete fix.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/323047875459?chn=ps

On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 11:46:24 -0700 (PDT), harry
wrote:

On Saturday, 27 April 2019 09:53:08 UTC+1, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote:
Hi,
This is really a continuation of the plasterbord ceiling
question.

I am about to redecorate a room and the artex ceiling is suffering
from splitting along the perimeter of the plasterboard panels.

I made a fairly strong mix of PVA and tile cement [it was white and
anything else resembling filler has long since formed "marbles"].

I whacked this on with a roller and it seems to be covering the
cracks. I'm tempted to continue with PVA and finishing plaster. Any
thoughts?


You need to put scrim over the joints before you put anything on top.
This is a complete fix.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/323047875459?chn=ps

Thanks, but it's a little late to do anything like that now.

If it lasts a few years without looking a mess, I'll be happy though.

AB