I'm putting up a shaving mirror - better to drill through a tile, or
between them?

The latter seems easier and less risky, but less aesthetically pleasing.

Daniele

On 04/02/2019 12:11, D.M. Procida wrote:
I'm putting up a shaving mirror - better to drill through a tile, or
between them?

The latter seems easier and less risky, but less aesthetically pleasing.

Daniele

Get a proper 4mm, 5mm or 6mm diamond core drill and do the job slowly,
with water, and properly...

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On 04/02/2019 12:18, Jim K.. wrote:
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I'm putting up a shaving mirror - better to drill through a tile, or
between them?

The latter seems easier and less risky, but less aesthetically pleasing.

Daniele


Through, between risks splintering & cracking.

Do you do much shaving then?

+1

I tend to use a small masonry (not SDS) bit to start with and then to
re-drill with the final size (usually 6mm for a red plug). Take it
gently and don't let the drill skip-about when starting the hole.

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I'm putting up a shaving mirror - better to drill through a tile, or
between them?

The latter seems easier and less risky, but less aesthetically pleasing.

Daniele


Through, between risks splintering & cracking.

Do you do much shaving then?
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On 04/02/2019 12:11, D.M. Procida wrote:
I'm putting up a shaving mirror - better to drill through a tile, or
between them?

The latter seems easier and less risky, but less aesthetically pleasing.

Daniele

Get a proper 4mm, 5mm or 6mm diamond core drill and do the job slowly,
with water, and properly...


For tiles? Nah, ordinary tile drill, spear shaped head...
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On 04/02/2019 12:18, Jim K.. wrote:
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I'm putting up a shaving mirror - better to drill through a tile, or
between them?

The latter seems easier and less risky, but less aesthetically pleasing.

Daniele


Through, between risks splintering & cracking.

Do you do much shaving then?

+1

I tend to use a small masonry (not SDS) bit to start with and then to
re-drill with the final size (usually 6mm for a red plug). Take it
gently and don't let the drill skip-about when starting the hole.


I use tile drills...
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Get a proper 4mm, 5mm or 6mm diamond core drill and do the job
slowly, with water, and properly...


For tiles? Nah, ordinary tile drill, spear shaped head...

Ensure the plug goes through the tile so that there are no expanding forces
on the ile itself.

Jim K.. wrote:

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I'm putting up a shaving mirror - better to drill through a tile, or
between them?

The latter seems easier and less risky, but less aesthetically pleasing.

Through, between risks splintering & cracking.

Do you do much shaving then?

Enough that a proper mirror will improve my life, I hope.

Daniele

Stick some masking tape over the hole position before drilling, easier to mark out and prevents the drill slipping as it starts.

Richard

On 04/02/2019 12:18, Jim K.. wrote:
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I'm putting up a shaving mirror - better to drill through a tile, or
between them?

The latter seems easier and less risky, but less aesthetically pleasing.

Daniele


Through, between risks splintering & cracking.

Do you do much shaving then?

Use a tile drill, between works OK IME and if you remove it, grout can
mask most of the hole.

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On 04/02/2019 12:11, D.M. Procida wrote:
I'm putting up a shaving mirror - better to drill through a tile, or
between them?

The latter seems easier and less risky, but less aesthetically pleasing.

When putting up clocking/punch card racks in fully tiled factory areas
(dairy/meat industries etc) I quickly found the easiest way with the
limited installation tools provided by the company was to gently
centre-punch the tile surface with a screw to break through the glaze
then use a regular masonry bit NOT on hammer action to simply drill
through the tile, switching hammer action back on if required to drill
into the brick once the tile was safely drilled.

Drilling through the grout I'd think you're more likely chip the tile(s)
as the drill-bit catches the side of the tile.

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I'm putting up a shaving mirror - better to drill through a tile, or
between them?

The latter seems easier and less risky, but less aesthetically pleasing.

Daniele


Through, between risks splintering & cracking.

Do you do much shaving then?

Dont most men? To be fair, nearly all women do too.

Tim



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I tend to use a small masonry (not SDS) bit to start with and then to
re-drill with the final size (usually 6mm for a red plug). Take it
gently and don't let the drill skip-about when starting the hole.


I use tile drills...


Bosch multipurpose drills work extreemly well through tiles
https://www.screwfix.com/p/bosch-mul...set-4pcs/95958

(they can be purchased individually or in larger sets)

Cover the part of the tile to be drilled with masking tape and operate
the drill at a slow speed.

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I tend to use a small masonry (not SDS) bit to start with and then to
re-drill with the final size (usually 6mm for a red plug). Take it
gently and don't let the drill skip-about when starting the hole.


I use tile drills...


Bosch multipurpose drills work extreemly well through tiles
https://www.screwfix.com/p/bosch-mul...set-4pcs/95958

(they can be purchased individually or in larger sets)


I use those to drill the masonry once the tile drill is through.

Cover the part of the tile to be drilled with masking tape and operate
the drill at a slow speed.

With a tile drill I don't bother with all that, just place the
point of the spear on the mark then without starting the drill,
lean on it & you'll hear & feel a slight crunch as the tip breaks
the glaze, then steady & slowly away with the drill (not on
hammer).


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On Monday, 4 February 2019 12:24:40 UTC, wrote:
On 04/02/2019 12:18, Jim K.. wrote:
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I'm putting up a shaving mirror - better to drill through a tile, or
between them?

The latter seems easier and less risky, but less aesthetically pleasing.

Daniele


Through, between risks splintering & cracking.

Do you do much shaving then?

+1

I tend to use a small masonry (not SDS) bit to start with and then to

that's some hardcore shaving


re-drill with the final size (usually 6mm for a red plug). Take it
gently and don't let the drill skip-about when starting the hole.

masking tape solves that. Through the tile is neater than between

Spear bits are easiest, but it can be done with masonry bits.


NT

On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 13:11:39 +0100, D.M. Procida wrote:

I'm putting up a shaving mirror - better to drill through a tile, or
between them?

Where ever they have to go to get the mirror in the right place but
I'd avoid within 1/2" of the grout.

As others have said mark up on masking tape, break the glaze at the
right place with a center punch, screw, WHY... My preferrance for
drill to use would be a Bosch multi drill for the entire hole and
required diameter. Failing that a glass/tile drill to get through the
glaze/tile then a masonary drill for the block/brick behind, again
single pass at the correct size.

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Much depends on the tile and how well its supported and what stresses are on
it. I tend to always use a tape over where I drill and drill a tiny hole
part way through first.
I remember trying to fit a toilet roll holder by drilling between tiles,
the result was that two tiles fell off the wall. Ahem...
Brian

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Daniele

That is what the tape is there for.
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On 04/02/2019 12:18, Jim K.. wrote:
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I'm putting up a shaving mirror - better to drill through a tile, or
between them?

The latter seems easier and less risky, but less aesthetically pleasing.

Daniele


Through, between risks splintering & cracking.

Do you do much shaving then?

+1

I tend to use a small masonry (not SDS) bit to start with and then to
re-drill with the final size (usually 6mm for a red plug). Take it gently
and don't let the drill skip-about when starting the hole.

Keep clearing the hole - to avoid the debris forcing the tile off the wall

On 04/02/19 14:08, alan_m wrote:
On 04/02/2019 12:30, Jim K.. wrote:
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I tend to use a small masonry (not SDS) bit to start with and then to
re-drill with the final size (usually 6mm for a red plug). Take it
gently and don't let the drill skip-about when starting the hole.


I use tile drills...


Bosch multipurpose drills work extreemly well through tiles
https://www.screwfix.com/p/bosch-mul...set-4pcs/95958

+1

This is especially true if the tiles are porcelain. The surface of these
is incredibly hard and I found normal TCT bits would barely scratch the
surface. The Bosch multipurpose bit took it in its stride.

FWIW, I melted and ruined the tip of a diamond core bit by using too
high a speed. :-(

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On 04/02/19 14:08, alan_m wrote:
On 04/02/2019 12:30, Jim K.. wrote:
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I tend to use a small masonry (not SDS) bit to start with and then to
re-drill with the final size (usually 6mm for a red plug). Take it
gently and don't let the drill skip-about when starting the hole.


I use tile drills...


Bosch multipurpose drills work extreemly well through tiles
https://www.screwfix.com/p/bosch-mul...set-4pcs/95958

+1

This is especially true if the tiles are porcelain. The surface of these
is incredibly hard and I found normal TCT bits would barely scratch the
surface. The Bosch multipurpose bit took it in its stride.

FWIW, I melted and ruined the tip of a diamond core bit by using too
high a speed. :-(


I once knackered a Bosch multi bit drilling porcelain tiles, it
list one side of the TCT? section!

I bought some tubular diamond encrusted, wax filled specialist
porcelain bits but only just managed to drill around 5 holes
before it too was knacked...

Why do people fit porcelain?
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On Monday, 4 February 2019 12:11:34 UTC, D.M. Procida wrote:
I'm putting up a shaving mirror - better to drill through a tile, or
between them?

The latter seems easier and less risky, but less aesthetically pleasing.

Daniele

Last time I fixed a mirror on a difficult surface, I used 3M Command tabs. Years and years later, at house move, took it off without any problem.

Of course, the safety of this approach does depend on the mirror's design and the likely stresses in use.

Otherwise, if you do go ahead with drilling, I concur with the through the tile, well away from edges, most replies advise.

On 04/02/2019 12:11, D.M. Procida wrote:
I'm putting up a shaving mirror - better to drill through a tile, or
between them?

The latter seems easier and less risky, but less aesthetically pleasing.

Daniele


Through, drilling at the edge is more likely to chip / crack.

I put some masking tape over the spot, to stop the drill wandering, and
use a newish masonry drill. Take it slow.

I've used this technique for ordinary tiles and it has always worked.
We've just had a new bathroom which has harder tiles and I'm not so sure
about those- I watched the tiler (who was excellent) and cutting was
obviously not easy, even with the proper tools.

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D.M. Procida wrote:

I'm putting up a shaving mirror - better to drill through a tile, or
between them?

The latter seems easier and less risky, but less aesthetically pleasing.

Thanks for the advice, shaving mirror now safely installed.

I need not have been worried about drilling through the tiles. A little
tap with a sharp point broke through the glaze and the rest of the tile
was very soft.

Daniele

On 05/02/2019 23:10, D.M. Procida wrote:
D.M. Procida wrote:

I'm putting up a shaving mirror - better to drill through a tile, or
between them?

The latter seems easier and less risky, but less aesthetically pleasing.

Thanks for the advice, shaving mirror now safely installed.

I need not have been worried about drilling through the tiles. A little
tap with a sharp point broke through the glaze and the rest of the tile
was very soft.


some are. Try quartzite or a real quality hard ceramic..


Daniele



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