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curious January 14th 19 05:00 PM

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Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified. It is to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .

[email protected] January 14th 19 05:09 PM

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On Monday, 14 January 2019 17:00:45 UTC, curious wrote:
Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified. It is to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .


Either degreases. White spirit is more toxic.


NT


Mr Pounder Esquire January 14th 19 05:20 PM

Cleaning alcohol
 
curious wrote:
Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified.
It is to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .


Meths.



Tim Watts[_5_] January 14th 19 06:55 PM

Cleaning alcohol
 
On 14/01/2019 17:20, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
curious wrote:
Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified.
It is to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .


Meths.



Meths is crap for pretty much anything.

IPA is reasonably decent as a weak solvent and readily available.

Carbon TetraChloride was the ******** but you won't get that anymore
('cos it gives you cancer**)

** When I die, it's going to be a toss up between the Coal Tar, CCl4,
funky food colours and the asbestos!

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Email does not work

Andrew Gabriel January 14th 19 07:46 PM

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In article ,
Jethro_uk writes:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 09:09:13 -0800, tabbypurr wrote:

On Monday, 14 January 2019 17:00:45 UTC, curious wrote:
Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified. It
is to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .


Either degreases. White spirit is more toxic.


NT


I would have thought white spirit would leave a residue ?


Other way around - white spirit leaves no residue or smell once it's
evaporated, but being much less volatile, that takes much longer,
and it stinks more until it's evaporated.
Your alcohol will have additives to make it toxic and to colour it,
and these leave residues. (Pure ethanol wouldn't, but you can't buy
that without paying lots of duty.)

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Tim Watts[_5_] January 14th 19 07:50 PM

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On 14/01/2019 19:46, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
Jethro_uk writes:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 09:09:13 -0800, tabbypurr wrote:

On Monday, 14 January 2019 17:00:45 UTC, curious wrote:
Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified. It
is to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .

Either degreases. White spirit is more toxic.


NT


I would have thought white spirit would leave a residue ?


Other way around - white spirit leaves no residue or smell once it's
evaporated, but being much less volatile, that takes much longer,
and it stinks more until it's evaporated.
Your alcohol will have additives to make it toxic and to colour it,
and these leave residues. (Pure ethanol wouldn't, but you can't buy
that without paying lots of duty.)


This is why I like IPA...

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% January 14th 19 08:00 PM

Cleaning alcohol
 
On 2019-01-14 12:50 p.m., Tim Watts wrote:
On 14/01/2019 19:46, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â*Â*Â*Jethro_uk writes:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 09:09:13 -0800, tabbypurr wrote:

On Monday, 14 January 2019 17:00:45 UTC, curiousÂ* wrote:
Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified. It
is to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .

Either degreases. White spirit is more toxic.


NT

I would have thought white spirit would leave a residue ?


Other way around - white spirit leaves no residue or smell once it's
evaporated, but being much less volatile, that takes much longer,
and it stinks more until it's evaporated.
Your alcohol will have additives to make it toxic and to colour it,
and these leave residues. (Pure ethanol wouldn't, but you can't buy
that without paying lots of duty.)


This is why I like IPA...

indiana pale ale is awful

newshound January 14th 19 08:23 PM

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On 14/01/2019 19:50, Tim Watts wrote:
On 14/01/2019 19:46, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â*Â*Â*Jethro_uk writes:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 09:09:13 -0800, tabbypurr wrote:

On Monday, 14 January 2019 17:00:45 UTC, curiousÂ* wrote:
Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified. It
is to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .

Either degreases. White spirit is more toxic.


NT

I would have thought white spirit would leave a residue ?


Other way around - white spirit leaves no residue or smell once it's
evaporated, but being much less volatile, that takes much longer,
and it stinks more until it's evaporated.
Your alcohol will have additives to make it toxic and to colour it,
and these leave residues. (Pure ethanol wouldn't, but you can't buy
that without paying lots of duty.)


Not very much, though, even from purple "meths". The toxic bit is
methanol which is even more volatile than ethanol, the dye is pyridine
but only at a tiny level


This is why I like IPA...


Agreed

The trouble with white spirit is that contains hydrocarbon molecules of
various lengths, and the longer are less volatile. Unless you apply a
little heat it won't evaporate quite as quickly as meths or IPA.

Oh, but white spirit is not significantly toxic.


The Natural Philosopher[_2_] January 14th 19 08:31 PM

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On 14/01/2019 17:10, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 09:09:13 -0800, tabbypurr wrote:

On Monday, 14 January 2019 17:00:45 UTC, curious wrote:
Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified. It
is to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .


Either degreases. White spirit is more toxic.


NT


I would have thought white spirit would leave a residue ?

no, but the pong hangs around

Use gin or vodka...:-)


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oppressors."
- George Orwell

ARW January 14th 19 08:55 PM

Cleaning alcohol
 
On 14/01/2019 18:55, Tim Watts wrote:
On 14/01/2019 17:20, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
curious wrote:
Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified.
It is to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .


Meths.



Meths is crap for pretty much anything.

IPA is reasonably decent as a weak solvent and readily available.

Carbon TetraChloride was the ******** but you won't get that anymore
('cos it gives you cancer**)

** When I die, it's going to be a toss up between the Coal Tar, CCl4,
funky food colours and the asbestos!


I would have thought that meths would have been fine for this job.

I carry meths in the van for cleaning old sockets and switches.

--
Adam

Andrew[_22_] January 14th 19 09:08 PM

Cleaning alcohol
 
On 14/01/2019 19:46, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
Jethro_uk writes:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 09:09:13 -0800, tabbypurr wrote:

On Monday, 14 January 2019 17:00:45 UTC, curious wrote:
Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified. It
is to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .

Either degreases. White spirit is more toxic.


NT


I would have thought white spirit would leave a residue ?


Other way around - white spirit leaves no residue or smell once it's
evaporated, but being much less volatile, that takes much longer,
and it stinks more until it's evaporated.
Your alcohol will have additives to make it toxic and to colour it,
and these leave residues. (Pure ethanol wouldn't, but you can't buy
that without paying lots of duty.)


When I was a haematology techician in the 70's we had 2 litre
'winchester' bottles of pure ethanol in the lab for diagnostic purposes,
presumably tax-free because I remember it was absurdly cheap for 2
litres of 100% alcohol.

Medical students were always trying to get pally with the female
technicians (not many female medical students in those days) to try and
get something to make their party drinks go with a bang.

One day Customs and excise paid us a visit and insisted that we kept
a register of the exact amounts removed for diagnostic purposes and
to *return* the excess back to the container.

Chief technician got quite agitated explaining why we would and could
not do this. Eventually it was escalated up to higher levels to make
them shove off.

Even normal hot weather (no aircon in those days) made it evaporate
pretty quickly, apart from the no-no of contaminating the bulk bottle.

Andrew[_22_] January 14th 19 09:09 PM

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On 14/01/2019 20:55, ARW wrote:
On 14/01/2019 18:55, Tim Watts wrote:
On 14/01/2019 17:20, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
curious wrote:
Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified.
It is to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .

Meths.



Meths is crap for pretty much anything.

IPA is reasonably decent as a weak solvent and readily available.

Carbon TetraChloride was the ******** but you won't get that anymore
('cos it gives you cancer**)

** When I die, it's going to be a toss up between the Coal Tar, CCl4,
funky food colours and the asbestos!


I would have thought that meths would have been fine for this job.

I carry meths in the van for cleaning old sockets and switches.


Indeed. Or just get some iso propyl alcohol which is what is used
to clean your skin before a blood test. Also used for screen wipes.

Graham.[_11_] January 14th 19 09:58 PM

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On 14/01/2019 18:55, Tim Watts wrote:
On 14/01/2019 17:20, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
curious wrote:
Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified.
It is to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .

Meths.



Meths is crap for pretty much anything.

IPA is reasonably decent as a weak solvent and readily available.

Carbon TetraChloride was the ******** but you won't get that anymore
('cos it gives you cancer**)

** When I die, it's going to be a toss up between the Coal Tar, CCl4,
funky food colours and the asbestos!


I would have thought that meths would have been fine for this job.

I carry meths in the van for cleaning old sockets and switches.


I use meths first, if that's not food enough, acetone.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

Rod Speed January 14th 19 10:17 PM

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curious wrote

Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified.
It is to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .


I wouldnt. Alcohol evaporates away very quickly. White spirit doesnt.


Rod Speed January 14th 19 10:27 PM

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wrote in message
...
On Monday, 14 January 2019 17:00:45 UTC, curious wrote:
Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified. It is
to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .


Either degreases. White spirit is more toxic.


And doesnt evaporate anywhere near as well as alcohol.


Rod Speed January 14th 19 10:27 PM

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"Jethro_uk" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 09:09:13 -0800, tabbypurr wrote:

On Monday, 14 January 2019 17:00:45 UTC, curious wrote:
Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified. It
is to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .


Either degreases. White spirit is more toxic.


NT


I would have thought white spirit would leave a residue ?


Yes it does.


dkol January 14th 19 10:44 PM

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"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Jethro_uk writes:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 09:09:13 -0800, tabbypurr wrote:

On Monday, 14 January 2019 17:00:45 UTC, curious wrote:
Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified. It
is to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .

Either degreases. White spirit is more toxic.


NT


I would have thought white spirit would leave a residue ?


Other way around - white spirit leaves no residue or smell once it's
evaporated, but being much less volatile, that takes much longer,
and it stinks more until it's evaporated.
Your alcohol will have additives to make it toxic and to colour it,
and these leave residues.


But those residues are trivial and don't interfere with the
adhesive on the hooks so that is why alcohol is stated.

(Pure ethanol wouldn't, but you can't buy
that without paying lots of duty.)




Rod Speed January 14th 19 11:01 PM

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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 14/01/2019 17:10, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 09:09:13 -0800, tabbypurr wrote:

On Monday, 14 January 2019 17:00:45 UTC, curious wrote:
Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified. It
is to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .

Either degreases. White spirit is more toxic.


NT


I would have thought white spirit would leave a residue ?

no, but the pong hangs around

Use gin or vodka...:-)


Both have a residue.


Rod Speed January 14th 19 11:12 PM

Cleaning alcohol
 


"Graham." wrote in message
...
On 14/01/2019 18:55, Tim Watts wrote:
On 14/01/2019 17:20, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
curious wrote:
Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified.
It is to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .

Meths.



Meths is crap for pretty much anything.

IPA is reasonably decent as a weak solvent and readily available.

Carbon TetraChloride was the ******** but you won't get that anymore
('cos it gives you cancer**)

** When I die, it's going to be a toss up between the Coal Tar, CCl4,
funky food colours and the asbestos!


I would have thought that meths would have been fine for this job.

I carry meths in the van for cleaning old sockets and switches.


I use meths first, if that's not food enough, acetone.


Bit radical drinking acetone.


[email protected] January 15th 19 01:19 AM

Cleaning alcohol
 
On Monday, 14 January 2019 19:46:57 UTC, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
Jethro_uk writes:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 09:09:13 -0800, tabbypurr wrote:
On Monday, 14 January 2019 17:00:45 UTC, curious wrote:


Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified. It
is to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .

Either degreases. White spirit is more toxic.


I would have thought white spirit would leave a residue ?


Other way around - white spirit leaves no residue or smell once it's
evaporated, but being much less volatile, that takes much longer,
and it stinks more until it's evaporated.
Your alcohol will have additives to make it toxic and to colour it,
and these leave residues. (Pure ethanol wouldn't, but you can't buy
that without paying lots of duty.)


You can always freeze vodka. That gets you pretty close.


NT

RJH[_2_] January 15th 19 01:21 AM

Cleaning alcohol
 
On 14/01/2019 21:09, Andrew wrote:
On 14/01/2019 20:55, ARW wrote:
On 14/01/2019 18:55, Tim Watts wrote:
On 14/01/2019 17:20, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
curious wrote:
Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified.
It is to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .

Meths.



Meths is crap for pretty much anything.

IPA is reasonably decent as a weak solvent and readily available.

Carbon TetraChloride was the ******** but you won't get that anymore
('cos it gives you cancer**)

** When I die, it's going to be a toss up between the Coal Tar, CCl4,
funky food colours and the asbestos!


I would have thought that meths would have been fine for this job.

I carry meths in the van for cleaning old sockets and switches.


Indeed. Or just get some iso propyl alcohol which is what is used
to clean your skin before a blood test. Also used for screen wipes.


And for some reason quite a bit cheaper at ebuyer

https://www.ebuyer.com/366815

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Brian Gaff January 15th 19 09:12 AM

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They probably mean IPA. I seem to recall its pretty cheap from CPC or used
to be, its the stuff we used to use to clean tape recorder parts.
Brian

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wrote in message
...
On Monday, 14 January 2019 17:00:45 UTC, curious wrote:
Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified. It is
to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .


Either degreases. White spirit is more toxic.


NT




Rod Speed January 15th 19 09:45 AM

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Brian Gaff wrote

They probably mean IPA.


Nope, metho.

I seem to recall its pretty cheap from CPC or used to be, its the stuff we
used to use to clean tape recorder parts.


Metho works fine for that.

wrote in message
...
On Monday, 14 January 2019 17:00:45 UTC, curious wrote:
Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified. It
is to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .


Either degreases. White spirit is more toxic.


NT




newshound January 15th 19 10:21 AM

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On 15/01/2019 01:19, wrote:
On Monday, 14 January 2019 19:46:57 UTC, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
Jethro_uk writes:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 09:09:13 -0800, tabbypurr wrote:
On Monday, 14 January 2019 17:00:45 UTC, curious wrote:


Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified. It
is to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .

Either degreases. White spirit is more toxic.

I would have thought white spirit would leave a residue ?


Other way around - white spirit leaves no residue or smell once it's
evaporated, but being much less volatile, that takes much longer,
and it stinks more until it's evaporated.
Your alcohol will have additives to make it toxic and to colour it,
and these leave residues. (Pure ethanol wouldn't, but you can't buy
that without paying lots of duty.)


You can always freeze vodka. That gets you pretty close.


NT

So where do you get your duty free vodka?

Adam Funk[_3_] January 15th 19 10:50 AM

Cleaning alcohol
 
On 2019-01-14, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

In article ,
Jethro_uk writes:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 09:09:13 -0800, tabbypurr wrote:

On Monday, 14 January 2019 17:00:45 UTC, curious wrote:
Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified. It
is to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .

Either degreases. White spirit is more toxic.


NT


I would have thought white spirit would leave a residue ?


Other way around - white spirit leaves no residue or smell once it's
evaporated, but being much less volatile, that takes much longer,
and it stinks more until it's evaporated.
Your alcohol will have additives to make it toxic and to colour it,
and these leave residues. (Pure ethanol wouldn't, but you can't buy
that without paying lots of duty.)


Isopropanol from RS Components or a similar supplier?

The Natural Philosopher[_2_] January 15th 19 11:17 AM

Cleaning alcohol
 
On 15/01/2019 10:50, Adam Funk wrote:
On 2019-01-14, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

In article ,
Jethro_uk writes:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 09:09:13 -0800, tabbypurr wrote:

On Monday, 14 January 2019 17:00:45 UTC, curious wrote:
Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified. It
is to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .

Either degreases. White spirit is more toxic.


NT

I would have thought white spirit would leave a residue ?


Other way around - white spirit leaves no residue or smell once it's
evaporated, but being much less volatile, that takes much longer,
and it stinks more until it's evaporated.
Your alcohol will have additives to make it toxic and to colour it,
and these leave residues. (Pure ethanol wouldn't, but you can't buy
that without paying lots of duty.)


Isopropanol from RS Components or a similar supplier?

surgical spirit is ethanol adulterated with methanol but without the
purple dye.

Although it has other alduterants to make it a bit more 'medical'

Isopropyl is always the best bet for degreasing.

Boots lens cleaner for example





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before him."

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Max Demian January 15th 19 11:52 AM

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On 15/01/2019 11:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 15/01/2019 10:50, Adam Funk wrote:
On 2019-01-14, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â*Â*Â*Jethro_uk writes:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 09:09:13 -0800, tabbypurr wrote:
On Monday, 14 January 2019 17:00:45 UTC, curiousÂ* wrote:


Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is
specified. It
is to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .

Either degreases. White spirit is more toxic.


I would have thought white spirit would leave a residue ?

Other way around - white spirit leaves no residue or smell once it's
evaporated, but being much less volatile, that takes much longer,
and it stinks more until it's evaporated.
Your alcohol will have additives to make it toxic and to colour it,
and these leave residues. (Pure ethanol wouldn't, but you can't buy
that without paying lots of duty.)


Isopropanol from RS Components or a similar supplier?

surgical spirit is ethanol adulterated with methanol but without the
purple dye.

Although it has other alduterants to make it a bit more 'medical'

Isopropyl is always the best bet for degreasing.


Why don't winos drink it, as it's less toxic than meths?

--
Max Demian

Andrew Gabriel January 15th 19 12:03 PM

Cleaning alcohol
 
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher writes:
surgical spirit is ethanol adulterated with methanol but without the
purple dye.

Although it has other alduterants to make it a bit more 'medical'


In the UK, surgical spirit also contains oil, and a topical anaesthetic
(usually asprin as methyl salicylate).
The formulation in different countries varies widely though.

Isopropyl is always the best bet for degreasing.

Boots lens cleaner for example


Really? I have several other lens cleaners here, but they all emphasise
alcohol free, although they smell of some organic solvent.

Reminds me, my father went to clean his specs a few weeks ago, but
they were just getting more and more smeary. I looked at the lens
cleaner (which he could no longer read by this stage), and he'd
picked up a bottle a spray-on latex by mistake.
That did take some effort to get off...

--
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[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

[email protected] January 15th 19 12:05 PM

Cleaning alcohol
 
On Tuesday, 15 January 2019 10:21:19 UTC, newshound wrote:
On 15/01/2019 01:19, tabbypurr wrote:
On Monday, 14 January 2019 19:46:57 UTC, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
Jethro_uk writes:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 09:09:13 -0800, tabbypurr wrote:
On Monday, 14 January 2019 17:00:45 UTC, curious wrote:


Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified. It
is to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .

Either degreases. White spirit is more toxic.

I would have thought white spirit would leave a residue ?

Other way around - white spirit leaves no residue or smell once it's
evaporated, but being much less volatile, that takes much longer,
and it stinks more until it's evaporated.
Your alcohol will have additives to make it toxic and to colour it,
and these leave residues. (Pure ethanol wouldn't, but you can't buy
that without paying lots of duty.)


You can always freeze vodka. That gets you pretty close.


NT

So where do you get your duty free vodka?


There's no lack of illegal spirits on sale, but I would not recommend/advise it.

The Natural Philosopher[_2_] January 15th 19 12:56 PM

Cleaning alcohol
 
On 15/01/2019 12:03, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher writes:
surgical spirit is ethanol adulterated with methanol but without the
purple dye.

Although it has other alduterants to make it a bit more 'medical'


In the UK, surgical spirit also contains oil, and a topical anaesthetic
(usually asprin as methyl salicylate).
The formulation in different countries varies widely though.

Isopropyl is always the best bet for degreasing.

Boots lens cleaner for example


Really? I have several other lens cleaners here, but they all emphasise
alcohol free, although they smell of some organic solvent.


Mmm. I just looked at my wiopes and they have 'denatured alcohol' and
water in them..

So meths without the dye, again...



Reminds me, my father went to clean his specs a few weeks ago, but
they were just getting more and more smeary. I looked at the lens
cleaner (which he could no longer read by this stage), and he'd
picked up a bottle a spray-on latex by mistake.
That did take some effort to get off...



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gospel of envy.

Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

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Andy Bennet January 15th 19 01:31 PM

Cleaning alcohol
 
On 14/01/2019 17:00, curious wrote:
Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified. It is to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .


Splash out on a box of lens wipes, these are soaked in IPA and in
individual sealed packets.
I use them all the time for degreasing.
You can get a box of 100 from Savers etc.

dennis@home[_6_] January 15th 19 02:55 PM

Cleaning alcohol
 
On 15/01/2019 10:50, Adam Funk wrote:
On 2019-01-14, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

In article ,
Jethro_uk writes:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 09:09:13 -0800, tabbypurr wrote:

On Monday, 14 January 2019 17:00:45 UTC, curious wrote:
Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified. It
is to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .

Either degreases. White spirit is more toxic.


NT

I would have thought white spirit would leave a residue ?


Other way around - white spirit leaves no residue or smell once it's
evaporated, but being much less volatile, that takes much longer,
and it stinks more until it's evaporated.
Your alcohol will have additives to make it toxic and to colour it,
and these leave residues. (Pure ethanol wouldn't, but you can't buy
that without paying lots of duty.)


Isopropanol from RS Components or a similar supplier?


https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B079YVPZDF

£6.50 for 1l.

Rod Speed January 15th 19 04:50 PM

Cleaning alcohol
 


"newshound" wrote in message
...
On 15/01/2019 01:19, wrote:
On Monday, 14 January 2019 19:46:57 UTC, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
Jethro_uk writes:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 09:09:13 -0800, tabbypurr wrote:
On Monday, 14 January 2019 17:00:45 UTC, curious wrote:


Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified.
It
is to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .

Either degreases. White spirit is more toxic.

I would have thought white spirit would leave a residue ?

Other way around - white spirit leaves no residue or smell once it's
evaporated, but being much less volatile, that takes much longer,
and it stinks more until it's evaporated.
Your alcohol will have additives to make it toxic and to colour it,
and these leave residues. (Pure ethanol wouldn't, but you can't buy
that without paying lots of duty.)


You can always freeze vodka. That gets you pretty close.


So where do you get your duty free vodka?


Down the sly grog shop, silly.


Rod Speed January 15th 19 05:06 PM

Cleaning alcohol
 


wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 15 January 2019 10:21:19 UTC, newshound wrote:
On 15/01/2019 01:19, tabbypurr wrote:
On Monday, 14 January 2019 19:46:57 UTC, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
Jethro_uk writes:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 09:09:13 -0800, tabbypurr wrote:
On Monday, 14 January 2019 17:00:45 UTC, curious wrote:


Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified.
It
is to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .

Either degreases. White spirit is more toxic.

I would have thought white spirit would leave a residue ?

Other way around - white spirit leaves no residue or smell once it's
evaporated, but being much less volatile, that takes much longer,
and it stinks more until it's evaporated.
Your alcohol will have additives to make it toxic and to colour it,
and these leave residues. (Pure ethanol wouldn't, but you can't buy
that without paying lots of duty.)

You can always freeze vodka. That gets you pretty close.


NT

So where do you get your duty free vodka?


There's no lack of illegal spirits on sale, but I would not
recommend/advise it.


Likely fine for cleaning. Risks having some
methanol but thats fine for cleaning.

I do in fact save the first run fraction when I make
mine. Its normally discarded but is fine for cleaning.


Mr Pounder Esquire January 15th 19 05:48 PM

Cleaning alcohol
 
Tim Watts wrote:
On 14/01/2019 17:20, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
curious wrote:
Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified.
It is to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol
.


Meths.



Meths is crap for pretty much anything.

IPA is reasonably decent as a weak solvent and readily available.

Carbon TetraChloride was the ******** but you won't get that anymore
('cos it gives you cancer**)

** When I die, it's going to be a toss up between the Coal Tar, CCl4,
funky food colours and the asbestos!


I have three Commander hooks stuck on to three gloss painted doors. They
have not fallen off in the past 6 years.
I used meths to clean the doors where the hooks were going to be.
That is good enough for me.



ARW January 15th 19 05:55 PM

Cleaning alcohol
 
On 14/01/2019 21:58, Graham. wrote:
On 14/01/2019 18:55, Tim Watts wrote:
On 14/01/2019 17:20, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
curious wrote:
Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified.
It is to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .

Meths.



Meths is crap for pretty much anything.

IPA is reasonably decent as a weak solvent and readily available.

Carbon TetraChloride was the ******** but you won't get that anymore
('cos it gives you cancer**)

** When I die, it's going to be a toss up between the Coal Tar, CCl4,
funky food colours and the asbestos!


I would have thought that meths would have been fine for this job.

I carry meths in the van for cleaning old sockets and switches.


I use meths first, if that's not food enough, acetone.

I also carry nail polish remover:-)

--
Adam

curious January 15th 19 07:04 PM

Cleaning alcohol
 
Sounds good will chase up some meths.

Vir Campestris January 15th 19 08:59 PM

Cleaning alcohol
 
On 14/01/2019 20:00, % wrote:

indiana pale ale is awful


It's supposed to be India, not Indiana. If your brewer doesn't even know
that it's no wonder the beer is crap.

(There are decent ones in the USA now.)

Andy

Vir Campestris January 15th 19 09:01 PM

Cleaning alcohol
 
On 15/01/2019 17:55, ARW wrote:

I also carry nail polish remover:-)


That may contain some oil or such as a moisturiser. Acetone dries the
skin something awful.

Andy

Roger Mills[_2_] January 16th 19 09:15 AM

Cleaning alcohol
 
On 14/01/2019 17:00, curious wrote:
Can white spirit be used to clean tiles where alcohol is specified. It is to fit Command hanging hooks which specify clean with alcohol .


I often use surgical spirit for such things.
--
Cheers,
Roger
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