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On 23/10/2018 15:14, Bill Wright wrote:
On 23/10/2018 01:27, Jim Wilkinson Knife wrote: Yeah, the size of a truck.Â* Nothing like what we have today.Â* So, looking at the Peltier, that should improve in the same way. Why should progress in one technology ensure progress in another. Very poor logic you're using there. Bill No logic whatsoever actually What else from 'our Jim'? -- There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact. Mark Twain |
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On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 15:46:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 23/10/2018 15:14, Bill Wright wrote: On 23/10/2018 01:27, Jim Wilkinson Knife wrote: Yeah, the size of a truck. Nothing like what we have today. So, looking at the Peltier, that should improve in the same way. Why should progress in one technology ensure progress in another. Very poor logic you're using there. Bill No logic whatsoever actually What else from 'our Jim'? At least I can accept the future will change. So stupid are people like you who say "this can't happen", then 10 years later everyone's doing it. I bet you believed Popular Mechanics when they said computers might one day weigh less than 1.5 tons. |
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![]() "Jim Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message news ![]() On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 15:46:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 23/10/2018 15:14, Bill Wright wrote: On 23/10/2018 01:27, Jim Wilkinson Knife wrote: Yeah, the size of a truck. Nothing like what we have today. So, looking at the Peltier, that should improve in the same way. Why should progress in one technology ensure progress in another. Very poor logic you're using there. Bill No logic whatsoever actually What else from 'our Jim'? At least I can accept the future will change. Some technologys don't. Thermocouples havent. So stupid are people like you who say "this can't happen", then 10 years later everyone's doing it. Didn't happen with thermocouples. I bet you believed Popular Mechanics when they said computers might one day weigh less than 1.5 tons. Irrelevant to what actually happened with thermocouples. |
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On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 22:39:08 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:
"Jim Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message news ![]() On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 15:46:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 23/10/2018 15:14, Bill Wright wrote: On 23/10/2018 01:27, Jim Wilkinson Knife wrote: Yeah, the size of a truck. Nothing like what we have today. So, looking at the Peltier, that should improve in the same way. Why should progress in one technology ensure progress in another. Very poor logic you're using there. Bill No logic whatsoever actually What else from 'our Jim'? At least I can accept the future will change. Some technologys don't. Thermocouples havent. So stupid are people like you who say "this can't happen", then 10 years later everyone's doing it. Didn't happen with thermocouples. I bet you believed Popular Mechanics when they said computers might one day weigh less than 1.5 tons. Irrelevant to what actually happened with thermocouples. That's the 10th time you've mentioned those. |
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 08:39:08 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again: At least I can accept the future will change. Some technologys don't. Thermocouples havent. Idiots like the two of you NEVER change! That much is sure! LOL -- Kerr-Mudd,John addressing senile Rot: "Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)" MID: |
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![]() "Jym Wulkinson Kunife" wrote in message news ![]() On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 22:39:08 +0100, Rod Speed wrote: "Jim Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message news ![]() On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 15:46:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 23/10/2018 15:14, Bill Wright wrote: On 23/10/2018 01:27, Jim Wilkinson Knife wrote: Yeah, the size of a truck. Nothing like what we have today. So, looking at the Peltier, that should improve in the same way. Why should progress in one technology ensure progress in another. Very poor logic you're using there. Bill No logic whatsoever actually What else from 'our Jim'? At least I can accept the future will change. Some technologys don't. Thermocouples havent. So stupid are people like you who say "this can't happen", then 10 years later everyone's doing it. Didn't happen with thermocouples. I bet you believed Popular Mechanics when they said computers might one day weigh less than 1.5 tons. Irrelevant to what actually happened with thermocouples. That's the 10th time you've mentioned those. Because that's what Peltiers are, stupid. |
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 09:34:03 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again: I bet you believed Popular Mechanics when they said computers might one day weigh less than 1.5 tons. Irrelevant to what actually happened with thermocouples. That's the 10th time you've mentioned those. Because that's what Peltiers are, stupid. Nope, that's because BOTH of you are pathologically stupid! LOL -- Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp addressing Rot Speed: "You really are a clueless pillock." MID: |
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On 23/10/2018 21:12, Jim Wilkinson Knife wrote:
I bet you believed Popular Mechanics when they said computers might one day weigh less than 1.5 tons. Yes I did. Bill |
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 05:59:40 +0100, Bill Wright, another mentally deficient,
notorious, troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered: I bet you believed Popular Mechanics when they said computers might one day weigh less than 1.5 tons. Yes I did. Bill Wanna bet that you, too, will SOON start sounding as idiotic as the troll you keep feeding? I can see it already happening! Don't you underestimate the power and effect of its stupidity! LOL |
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Peeler wrote:
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 05:59:40 +0100, Bill Wright, another mentally deficient, notorious, troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered: I bet you believed Popular Mechanics when they said computers might one day weigh less than 1.5 tons. Yes I did. Bill Wanna bet that you, too, will SOON start sounding as idiotic as the troll you keep feeding? I can see it already happening! Don't you underestimate the power and effect of its stupidity! LOL He need only look at what he has done to you. An awful warning of what can happen to the pathologically obsessed. -- Roger Hayter |
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 10:52:47 +0100, Roger Hayter wrote:
Yes I did. Bill Wanna bet that you, too, will SOON start sounding as idiotic as the troll you keep feeding? I can see it already happening! Don't you underestimate the power and effect of its stupidity! LOL He need only look at what he has done to you. An awful warning of what can happen to the pathologically obsessed. You seniles aren't in a position to judge things properly ...THAT has become very evident in these groups! |
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![]() "Peeler" wrote in message news ![]() On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 10:52:47 +0100, Roger Hayter wrote: Yes I did. Bill Wanna bet that you, too, will SOON start sounding as idiotic as the troll you keep feeding? I can see it already happening! Don't you underestimate the power and effect of its stupidity! LOL He need only look at what he has done to you. An awful warning of what can happen to the pathologically obsessed. You seniles aren't in a position to judge things properly ...THAT has become very evident in these groups! just what is your problem ? .... |
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 16:28:21 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
You seniles aren't in a position to judge things properly ...THAT has become very evident in these groups! just what is your problem ? .... ....the senile idiot even has to ask! LOL |
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![]() "Peeler" wrote in message news ![]() On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 16:28:21 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: You seniles aren't in a position to judge things properly ...THAT has become very evident in these groups! just what is your problem ? .... ...the senile idiot even has to ask! LOL have you got a mental problem? .... |
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![]() "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... "Peeler" wrote in message news ![]() On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 10:52:47 +0100, Roger Hayter wrote: Yes I did. Bill Wanna bet that you, too, will SOON start sounding as idiotic as the troll you keep feeding? I can see it already happening! Don't you underestimate the power and effect of its stupidity! LOL He need only look at what he has done to you. An awful warning of what can happen to the pathologically obsessed. You seniles aren't in a position to judge things properly ... THAT has become very evident in these groups! just what is your problem ? .... Ear to ear dog **** and nothing better to do with its time. |
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![]() "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... "Peeler" wrote in message news ![]() On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 10:52:47 +0100, Roger Hayter wrote: Yes I did. Bill Wanna bet that you, too, will SOON start sounding as idiotic as the troll you keep feeding? I can see it already happening! Don't you underestimate the power and effect of its stupidity! LOL He need only look at what he has done to you. An awful warning of what can happen to the pathologically obsessed. You seniles aren't in a position to judge things properly ... THAT has become very evident in these groups! just what is your problem ? .... Ear to ear dog **** and nothing better to do with its time. I see that |
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![]() "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... "Peeler" wrote in message news ![]() On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 16:28:21 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: You seniles aren't in a position to judge things properly ...THAT has become very evident in these groups! just what is your problem ? .... ...the senile idiot even has to ask! LOL have you got a mental problem? .... Yep, ear to ear dog **** instead of a brain. |
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 18:42:32 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
just what is your problem ? .... ...the senile idiot even has to ask! LOL have you got a mental problem? .... I'm having fun with you ridiculous idiots! LOL |
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![]() "Peeler" wrote in message news ![]() On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 18:42:32 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: just what is your problem ? .... ...the senile idiot even has to ask! LOL have you got a mental problem? .... I'm having fun with you ridiculous idiots! LOL playing with yourself then?..... |
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 05:57:58 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again: ...the senile idiot even has to ask! LOL have you got a mental problem? .... Yep, ear to ear dog **** instead of a brain. Nope but a broad grin on my face when dealing you ridiculous senile idiots! LOL -- "Anonymous" to trolling senile Rot Speed: "You can **** off as you know less than pig **** you sad little ignorant ****." MID: |
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 20:17:08 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
have you got a mental problem? .... I'm having fun with you ridiculous idiots! LOL playing with yourself then?..... With you ridiculous senile idiots, in fact! LOL |
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 05:40:38 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again: just what is your problem ? .... Ear to ear dog **** and nothing better to do with its time. ....says, of course, the ridiculous cantankerous senile idiot and troll who GETS UP every morning between ONE and FOUR o'clock in the morning, just to be able to continue with his pathetic trolling because NO ONE in RL is obviously talking to him! LOL |
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 19:42:01 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
just what is your problem ? .... Ear to ear dog **** and nothing better to do with its time. I see that Need some more hankies, you bleating seniles? LOL |
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![]() "Peeler" wrote in message news ![]() On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 05:57:58 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot Speed blabbered, again: ...the senile idiot even has to ask! LOL have you got a mental problem? .... Yep, ear to ear dog **** instead of a brain. Nope but a broad grin on my face when dealing you ridiculous senile idiots! LOL mental |
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![]() "Peeler" wrote in message news ![]() On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 20:17:08 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: have you got a mental problem? .... I'm having fun with you ridiculous idiots! LOL playing with yourself then?..... With you ridiculous senile idiots, in fact! LOL your cock then ? .... |
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![]() "Peeler" wrote in message news ![]() On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 05:40:38 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot Speed blabbered, again: just what is your problem ? .... Ear to ear dog **** and nothing better to do with its time. ...says, of course, the ridiculous cantankerous senile idiot and troll who GETS UP every morning between ONE and FOUR o'clock in the morning, just to be able to continue with his pathetic trolling because NO ONE in RL is obviously talking to him! LOL just because you sleep till mid day |
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 05:59:40 +0100, Bill Wright wrote:
On 23/10/2018 21:12, Jim Wilkinson Knife wrote: I bet you believed Popular Mechanics when they said computers might one day weigh less than 1.5 tons. Yes I did. Twit. |
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 21:12:40 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Nope but a broad grin on my face when dealing you ridiculous senile idiots! LOL mental See, you made me laugh AGAIN, you ridiculous senile idiot! Oh, and thanks for the entertainment! LOL |
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 21:13:14 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
I'm having fun with you ridiculous idiots! LOL playing with yourself then?..... With you ridiculous senile idiots, in fact! LOL your cock then ? .... With you ridiculous senile idiots, in fact! LOL |
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 21:14:03 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Ear to ear dog **** and nothing better to do with its time. ...says, of course, the ridiculous cantankerous senile idiot and troll who GETS UP every morning between ONE and FOUR o'clock in the morning, just to be able to continue with his pathetic trolling because NO ONE in RL is obviously talking to him! LOL just because you sleep till mid day You just CAN'T face the truth about the senile troll that you keep sucking off, eh, senile idiot? Must be a senile thing! LOL |
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news ![]() On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 05:59:40 +0100, Bill Wright wrote: On 23/10/2018 21:12, Jim Wilkinson Knife wrote: I bet you believed Popular Mechanics when they said computers might one day weigh less than 1.5 tons. Yes I did. Twit. When computers *were* several tons, the prospect of them being lighter than that must have seemed unbelievable. And he was right to believe that computers would get lighter. They did - and how! Nowadays I have a computer that has a circuit board which is about 3"x2" and just needs power, screen and keyboard/mouse external connections (it's a Raspberry Pi). OK, it's not as fast as a full-size laptop or desktop, but it's bloody good for its size and its power consumption is a lot less. I think it weighs about 50 grammes, so about 30,000 times lighter ;-) The RPi is great for what it does, which in my case is logging weather station data and recording TV programmes, both tasks which require a computer to be left on 24/7. I actually get to turn my Win 7 PC off at night nowadays :-) |
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 22:11:51 +0100, NY, another brain damaged, troll-feeding
senile idiot, driveled: Twit. When computers *were* several tons, the prospect of them being lighter than that must have seemed unbelievable. And he was right to believe that computers would get lighter. They did - and how! FLUSH senile drivel Isn't it great that on Usenet you can pour your heart out to sociopathic idiot, ****** and troll when no one else is there for you, senile idiot? BG |
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![]() "NY" wrote in message ... "Jym Wulkinson Kunife" wrote in message news ![]() On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 05:59:40 +0100, Bill Wright wrote: On 23/10/2018 21:12, Jim Wilkinson Knife wrote: I bet you believed Popular Mechanics when they said computers might one day weigh less than 1.5 tons. Yes I did. Twit. When computers *were* several tons, the prospect of them being lighter than that must have seemed unbelievable. That's a bit iffy given how much they changed from the original valve based ones. And he was right to believe that computers would get lighter. They did - and how! They did indeed. You could actually stand inside a PDP9 with the backplane door swong out and needed to to get that the back of the main control panel to change a bulb. My iphone leaves it for dead computer power wise and is actually smaller than every single one of the plug in logic cards which had a few discrete transistors on each one. Hundreds of those plugged into the main backplane that is a full 6' high and 4' wide. The IBM 360/50 that I ran myself was much bigger again. Nowadays I have a computer that has a circuit board which is about 3"x2" and just needs power, screen and keyboard/mouse external connections (it's a Raspberry Pi). OK, it's not as fast as a full-size laptop or desktop, but it's bloody good for its size and its power consumption is a lot less. I think it weighs about 50 grammes, so about 30,000 times lighter ;-) The RPi is great for what it does, which in my case is logging weather station data and recording TV programmes, both tasks which require a computer to be left on 24/7. I actually get to turn my Win 7 PC off at night nowadays :-) I do it all on my main PC. I used to use the previous PC as the PVR but stopped doing that when the main PC was powerful enough to do it all. Only real downside is that you cant do a full reboot once its doing its evening recordings but I don't need to do a full reboot often enough to matter. |
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 22:11:51 +0100, NY wrote:
"Jym Wulkinson Kunife" wrote in message news ![]() On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 05:59:40 +0100, Bill Wright wrote: On 23/10/2018 21:12, Jim Wilkinson Knife wrote: I bet you believed Popular Mechanics when they said computers might one day weigh less than 1.5 tons. Yes I did. Twit. When computers *were* several tons, the prospect of them being lighter than that must have seemed unbelievable. And he was right to believe that computers would get lighter. They did - and how! My point exactly, they got a LOT lighter than ever previously thought. Nobody ever seems to quite grasp that tomorrow's technology will be way better than what they thought possible. Nowadays I have a computer that has a circuit board which is about 3"x2" and just needs power, screen and keyboard/mouse external connections (it's a Raspberry Pi). OK, it's not as fast as a full-size laptop or desktop, but it's bloody good for its size and its power consumption is a lot less. I think it weighs about 50 grammes, so about 30,000 times lighter ;-) The RPi is great for what it does, which in my case is logging weather station data and recording TV programmes, both tasks which require a computer to be left on 24/7. I actually get to turn my Win 7 PC off at night nowadays :-) I have 6 Windows PCs and leave them all on all the time. They do all sorts of stuff, involving heavy computation. Short of nicking the electricity, they cost a lot to run. |
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 08:47:29 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again: I do it all on my main PC. I used to use the previous PC as the PVR but stopped doing that when the main PC was powerful enough to do it all. Only real downside is that you cant do a full reboot once its doing its evening recordings but I don't need to do a full reboot often enough to matter. You REALLY have nothing else in your "life", right, senile Rot? No wonder, you need to get up between 1 and 4 o'clock in the morning every day to play with your electronic gadgets and troll on Usenet! It's almost unbelievable, but there you are, in all your miserable senile splendour! -- Kerr-Mudd,John addressing senile Rot: "Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)" MID: |
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![]() "Jym Wulkinson Kunife" wrote in message news ![]() On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 22:11:51 +0100, NY wrote: "Jym Wulkinson Kunife" wrote in message news ![]() On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 05:59:40 +0100, Bill Wright wrote: On 23/10/2018 21:12, Jim Wilkinson Knife wrote: I bet you believed Popular Mechanics when they said computers might one day weigh less than 1.5 tons. Yes I did. Twit. When computers *were* several tons, the prospect of them being lighter than that must have seemed unbelievable. And he was right to believe that computers would get lighter. They did - and how! My point exactly, they got a LOT lighter than ever previously thought. Nobody ever seems to quite grasp that tomorrow's technology will be way better than what they thought possible. That isnt true of all technology. It isnt with Peltiers, or knives and forks or plates either. Yes, Corelles are rather better than what we had before, but nothing even remotely like as dramatically as with computers. Nowadays I have a computer that has a circuit board which is about 3"x2" and just needs power, screen and keyboard/mouse external connections (it's a Raspberry Pi). OK, it's not as fast as a full-size laptop or desktop, but it's bloody good for its size and its power consumption is a lot less. I think it weighs about 50 grammes, so about 30,000 times lighter ;-) The RPi is great for what it does, which in my case is logging weather station data and recording TV programmes, both tasks which require a computer to be left on 24/7. I actually get to turn my Win 7 PC off at night nowadays :-) I have 6 Windows PCs and leave them all on all the time. They do all sorts of stuff, involving heavy computation. What exactly ? Short of nicking the electricity, they cost a lot to run. |
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 00:19:11 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:
"Jym Wulkinson Kunife" wrote in message news ![]() On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 22:11:51 +0100, NY wrote: "Jym Wulkinson Kunife" wrote in message news ![]() wrote: On 23/10/2018 21:12, Jim Wilkinson Knife wrote: I bet you believed Popular Mechanics when they said computers might one day weigh less than 1.5 tons. Yes I did. Twit. When computers *were* several tons, the prospect of them being lighter than that must have seemed unbelievable. And he was right to believe that computers would get lighter. They did - and how! My point exactly, they got a LOT lighter than ever previously thought. Nobody ever seems to quite grasp that tomorrow's technology will be way better than what they thought possible. That isnt true of all technology. It isnt with Peltiers, It doesn't have to be a Peltier, just something more modern than a compressor ffs. or knives and forks Those don't need upgrading. or plates either. Although non-breakable ones would be nice here. Yes, Corelles Who? are rather better than what we had before, but nothing even remotely like as dramatically as with computers. Nowadays I have a computer that has a circuit board which is about 3"x2" and just needs power, screen and keyboard/mouse external connections (it's a Raspberry Pi). OK, it's not as fast as a full-size laptop or desktop, but it's bloody good for its size and its power consumption is a lot less. I think it weighs about 50 grammes, so about 30,000 times lighter ;-) The RPi is great for what it does, which in my case is logging weather station data and recording TV programmes, both tasks which require a computer to be left on 24/7. I actually get to turn my Win 7 PC off at night nowadays :-) I have 6 Windows PCs and leave them all on all the time. They do all sorts of stuff, involving heavy computation. What exactly ? Scientific research. Short of nicking the electricity, they cost a lot to run. |
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![]() "Gym Sulkinson Fork" wrote in message news ![]() On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 00:19:11 +0100, Rod Speed wrote: "Jym Wulkinson Kunife" wrote in message news ![]() On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 22:11:51 +0100, NY wrote: "Jym Wulkinson Kunife" wrote in message news ![]() wrote: On 23/10/2018 21:12, Jim Wilkinson Knife wrote: I bet you believed Popular Mechanics when they said computers might one day weigh less than 1.5 tons. Yes I did. Twit. When computers *were* several tons, the prospect of them being lighter than that must have seemed unbelievable. And he was right to believe that computers would get lighter. They did - and how! My point exactly, they got a LOT lighter than ever previously thought. Nobody ever seems to quite grasp that tomorrow's technology will be way better than what they thought possible. That isnt true of all technology. It isnt with Peltiers, It doesn't have to be a Peltier, just something more modern than a compressor ffs. or knives and forks Those don't need upgrading. or plates either. Although non-breakable ones would be nice here. Yes, Corelles Who? are rather better than what we had before, but nothing even remotely like as dramatically as with computers. Nowadays I have a computer that has a circuit board which is about 3"x2" and just needs power, screen and keyboard/mouse external connections (it's a Raspberry Pi). OK, it's not as fast as a full-size laptop or desktop, but it's bloody good for its size and its power consumption is a lot less. I think it weighs about 50 grammes, so about 30,000 times lighter ;-) The RPi is great for what it does, which in my case is logging weather station data and recording TV programmes, both tasks which require a computer to be left on 24/7. I actually get to turn my Win 7 PC off at night nowadays :-) I have 6 Windows PCs and leave them all on all the time. They do all sorts of stuff, involving heavy computation. What exactly ? Scientific research. Oh bull****. Short of nicking the electricity, they cost a lot to run. |
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 10:19:11 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again: FLUSH the two prize idiots' absolutely idiotic drivel unread again -- Richard addressing Rot Speed: "**** you're thick/pathetic excuse for a troll." MID: |
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 12:10:44 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
FLUSH most of the stinking troll **** Oh bull****. That's what you two prize idiots are all about BG -- Bill Wright to Rot Speed: "That confirms my opinion that you are a despicable little ****." MID: |
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