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Default Patching laminate floor after built in cupboards removed...

After removing a floor to ceiling built-in cupboard I have a small
area of bare floor in an otherwise laminated floored room - the
"hole".

The laminate is old, hardwood veneer & I don't have any spares.

I can find similar in style, colour & thickness but with a
different tongue & groove style jointing method.

The long edge of the "hole" has a piece of laminate that was cut
lengthwise to butt up to the cupboard.

Under the laminate is a layer of the plastic sponge underlay.

Any suggestions on how to splice/ brace/ butt / bodge all this
into a reasonable conclusion please?

It will most likely have a table or some such over it but a
reasonable attempt is wanted...

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On 15/10/2018 16:15, Jim K wrote:
After removing a floor to ceiling built-in cupboard I have a small
area of bare floor in an otherwise laminated floored room - the
"hole".

The laminate is old, hardwood veneer & I don't have any spares.

I can find similar in style, colour & thickness but with a
different tongue & groove style jointing method.

The long edge of the "hole" has a piece of laminate that was cut
lengthwise to butt up to the cupboard.

Under the laminate is a layer of the plastic sponge underlay.

Any suggestions on how to splice/ brace/ butt / bodge all this
into a reasonable conclusion please?

It will most likely have a table or some such over it but a
reasonable attempt is wanted...


In circumstances like that I find it usually looks better if you try and
make a feature of the patch, rather than trying to hide it. Unless you
can get some flooring that is almost identical in appearance, its always
going to be be obvious.

So that might include making the hole bigger to match some decorative
feature - say to centralise it or make it a better proportion. Then
perhaps a custom hardwood frame to trim off the edges and transition to
the new patch. The patch could then be contrasting, or perhaps laid at
45 degrees etc. If you are going to have a table there, then shaping the
patch to highlight the table setting might look ok.






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John.

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On 15/10/2018 16:15, Jim K wrote:
After removing a floor to ceiling built-in cupboard I have a small
area of bare floor in an otherwise laminated floored room - the
"hole".

The laminate is old, hardwood veneer & I don't have any spares.

I can find similar in style, colour & thickness but with a
different tongue & groove style jointing method.

The long edge of the "hole" has a piece of laminate that was cut
lengthwise to butt up to the cupboard.

Under the laminate is a layer of the plastic sponge underlay.

Any suggestions on how to splice/ brace/ butt / bodge all this
into a reasonable conclusion please?

It will most likely have a table or some such over it but a
reasonable attempt is wanted...


In circumstances like that I find it usually looks better if you try and
make a feature of the patch, rather than trying to hide it. Unless you
can get some flooring that is almost identical in appearance, its always
going to be be obvious.

So that might include making the hole bigger to match some decorative
feature - say to centralise it or make it a better proportion. Then
perhaps a custom hardwood frame to trim off the edges and transition to
the new patch. The patch could then be contrasting, or perhaps laid at
45 degrees etc. If you are going to have a table there, then shaping the
patch to highlight the table setting might look ok.


Mmm well having found some recent product that matches pretty well
in all except connection method (& given the long side of the
hole is a lengthways cut down older board) what are the
possibilities for butt joining old flooring to new?


Something thin (-metal?) under the butt joint with a good adhesive
liberally applied to the undersides of old & new boards
maybe?
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On 16/10/2018 00:47, Jim K wrote:
John Rumm Wrote in message:
On 15/10/2018 16:15, Jim K wrote:
After removing a floor to ceiling built-in cupboard I have a small
area of bare floor in an otherwise laminated floored room - the
"hole".

The laminate is old, hardwood veneer & I don't have any spares.

I can find similar in style, colour & thickness but with a
different tongue & groove style jointing method.

The long edge of the "hole" has a piece of laminate that was cut
lengthwise to butt up to the cupboard.

Under the laminate is a layer of the plastic sponge underlay.

Any suggestions on how to splice/ brace/ butt / bodge all this
into a reasonable conclusion please?

It will most likely have a table or some such over it but a
reasonable attempt is wanted...


In circumstances like that I find it usually looks better if you try and
make a feature of the patch, rather than trying to hide it. Unless you
can get some flooring that is almost identical in appearance, its always
going to be be obvious.

So that might include making the hole bigger to match some decorative
feature - say to centralise it or make it a better proportion. Then
perhaps a custom hardwood frame to trim off the edges and transition to
the new patch. The patch could then be contrasting, or perhaps laid at
45 degrees etc. If you are going to have a table there, then shaping the
patch to highlight the table setting might look ok.


Mmm well having found some recent product that matches pretty well
in all except connection method (& given the long side of the
hole is a lengthways cut down older board) what are the
possibilities for butt joining old flooring to new?


Can you lift a bit of the existing, or is it glued?

If you can lift it, and its thick enough, you could route/saw a groove
down both mating bits, and use a slip tenon(e.g. a strip of thin ply) to
join them.

Something thin (-metal?) under the butt joint with a good adhesive
liberally applied to the undersides of old & new boards
maybe?


You can get self adhesive membranes designed for laying engineered wood
floors as a floating floor. You slide it under the boards, then peel off
the backing at an angle to reveal the sticky bit under the boards.



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Cheers,

John.

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John Rumm Wrote in message:
On 16/10/2018 00:47, Jim K wrote:
John Rumm Wrote in message:
On 15/10/2018 16:15, Jim K wrote:
After removing a floor to ceiling built-in cupboard I have a small
area of bare floor in an otherwise laminated floored room - the
"hole".

The laminate is old, hardwood veneer & I don't have any spares.

I can find similar in style, colour & thickness but with a
different tongue & groove style jointing method.

The long edge of the "hole" has a piece of laminate that was cut
lengthwise to butt up to the cupboard.

Under the laminate is a layer of the plastic sponge underlay.

Any suggestions on how to splice/ brace/ butt / bodge all this
into a reasonable conclusion please?

It will most likely have a table or some such over it but a
reasonable attempt is wanted...

In circumstances like that I find it usually looks better if you try and
make a feature of the patch, rather than trying to hide it. Unless you
can get some flooring that is almost identical in appearance, its always
going to be be obvious.

So that might include making the hole bigger to match some decorative
feature - say to centralise it or make it a better proportion. Then
perhaps a custom hardwood frame to trim off the edges and transition to
the new patch. The patch could then be contrasting, or perhaps laid at
45 degrees etc. If you are going to have a table there, then shaping the
patch to highlight the table setting might look ok.


Mmm well having found some recent product that matches pretty well
in all except connection method (& given the long side of the
hole is a lengthways cut down older board) what are the
possibilities for butt joining old flooring to new?


Can you lift a bit of the existing, or is it glued?

If you can lift it, and its thick enough, you could route/saw a groove
down both mating bits, and use a slip tenon(e.g. a strip of thin ply) to
join them.


I can lift it an inch maybe but it's not very thick at all - less
than 10mm I'd guestimate.


Something thin (-metal?) under the butt joint with a good adhesive
liberally applied to the undersides of old & new boards
maybe?


You can get self adhesive membranes designed for laying engineered wood
floors as a floating floor. You slide it under the boards, then peel off
the backing at an angle to reveal the sticky bit under the boards.



I'll have a look though I bet they won't sell me 6ft! :-)
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On 16/10/2018 12:05, Jim K wrote:
John Rumm Wrote in message:
On 16/10/2018 00:47, Jim K wrote:
John Rumm Wrote in message:
On 15/10/2018 16:15, Jim K wrote:
After removing a floor to ceiling built-in cupboard I have a small
area of bare floor in an otherwise laminated floored room - the
"hole".

The laminate is old, hardwood veneer & I don't have any spares.

I can find similar in style, colour & thickness but with a
different tongue & groove style jointing method.

The long edge of the "hole" has a piece of laminate that was cut
lengthwise to butt up to the cupboard.

Under the laminate is a layer of the plastic sponge underlay.

Any suggestions on how to splice/ brace/ butt / bodge all this
into a reasonable conclusion please?

It will most likely have a table or some such over it but a
reasonable attempt is wanted...

In circumstances like that I find it usually looks better if you try and
make a feature of the patch, rather than trying to hide it. Unless you
can get some flooring that is almost identical in appearance, its always
going to be be obvious.

So that might include making the hole bigger to match some decorative
feature - say to centralise it or make it a better proportion. Then
perhaps a custom hardwood frame to trim off the edges and transition to
the new patch. The patch could then be contrasting, or perhaps laid at
45 degrees etc. If you are going to have a table there, then shaping the
patch to highlight the table setting might look ok.


Mmm well having found some recent product that matches pretty well
in all except connection method (& given the long side of the
hole is a lengthways cut down older board) what are the
possibilities for butt joining old flooring to new?


Can you lift a bit of the existing, or is it glued?

If you can lift it, and its thick enough, you could route/saw a groove
down both mating bits, and use a slip tenon(e.g. a strip of thin ply) to
join them.


I can lift it an inch maybe but it's not very thick at all - less
than 10mm I'd guestimate.


Something thin (-metal?) under the butt joint with a good adhesive
liberally applied to the undersides of old & new boards
maybe?


You can get self adhesive membranes designed for laying engineered wood
floors as a floating floor. You slide it under the boards, then peel off
the backing at an angle to reveal the sticky bit under the boards.



I'll have a look though I bet they won't sell me 6ft! :-)


Might be a end of roll on ebay...


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John.

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On 15/10/2018 16:15, Jim K wrote:
After removing a floor to ceiling built-in cupboard I have a small
area of bare floor in an otherwise laminated floored room - the
"hole".


Paint the area of the hole matt black then fit a window over it. Put a
little plaque the Ye Welle.

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On 15/10/2018 16:15, Jim K wrote:
After removing a floor to ceiling built-in cupboard I have a small
area of bare floor in an otherwise laminated floored room - the
"hole".


Paint the area of the hole matt black then fit a window over it. Put a
little plaque the Ye Welle.

Bill


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