Shower installed.

Now stressing about boxing the soil pipe run to the toilet.

Simplest is tiling on waterproof ply over treated timber frame. Damp
area and rot issues due to no ventilation?

Can't screw to floor but could glue to ceramic tiles. Anyone done it?
--
Tim Lamb

Tim Lamb wrote:

Shower installed.

Now stressing about boxing the soil pipe run to the toilet.

Simplest is tiling on waterproof ply over treated timber frame. Damp
area and rot issues due to no ventilation?

Can't screw to floor but could glue to ceramic tiles. Anyone done it?

Almost done that. Front of corner toilet frame covered with waterproof
ply (19mm) tiled over. Ply is 6mm off the floor but gap bridged with
stainless steel coving type moulding sealed with tile grout. No sign of
deterioration after four years, which is fortunate because wall mounting
toilet is fixed against it (with bolts from the frame of course). I
think I would be happier with a steel or aluminium frame if the space is
not ventilated.

--

Roger Hayter

Tim Lamb wrote:
Shower installed.

Now stressing about boxing the soil pipe run to the toilet.

Do you really need to box it? Why not just paint it to blend in with
whatever is around it?

--
Chris Green
·

In message , Roger Hayter
writes
Tim Lamb wrote:

Shower installed.

Now stressing about boxing the soil pipe run to the toilet.

Simplest is tiling on waterproof ply over treated timber frame. Damp
area and rot issues due to no ventilation?

Can't screw to floor but could glue to ceramic tiles. Anyone done it?

Almost done that. Front of corner toilet frame covered with waterproof
ply (19mm) tiled over. Ply is 6mm off the floor but gap bridged with
stainless steel coving type moulding sealed with tile grout. No sign of
deterioration after four years, which is fortunate because wall mounting
toilet is fixed against it (with bolts from the frame of course). I
think I would be happier with a steel or aluminium frame if the space is
not ventilated.

Hmm... I've got some aluminium channel.

Any thoughts about securing to the floor? The cistern will bolt to the
boxing and I will follow John's advice on silicone to fix the toilet
base. (underfloor heating pipes).


--
Tim Lamb

In message , Chris Green
writes
Tim Lamb wrote:
Shower installed.

Now stressing about boxing the soil pipe run to the toilet.

Do you really need to box it? Why not just paint it to blend in with
whatever is around it?

Excellent question:-)

My wife suffers from *cleaning syndrome* and an aversion to Spiders.
Cracks and gaps are therefore suspect places. Her strong preference is
for toilets that fit *back to the wall* with no visible plumbing
connections!

When purchasing this particular toilet set, I forgot that, because the
soil pipe enters from the side wall, this feature would require boxing.
Worse, the pipe enters through the left wall and the toilet will be
positioned near the right!


--
Tim Lamb

Tim Lamb wrote:

In message , Roger Hayter
writes
Tim Lamb wrote:

Shower installed.

Now stressing about boxing the soil pipe run to the toilet.

Simplest is tiling on waterproof ply over treated timber frame. Damp
area and rot issues due to no ventilation?

Can't screw to floor but could glue to ceramic tiles. Anyone done it?

Almost done that. Front of corner toilet frame covered with waterproof
ply (19mm) tiled over. Ply is 6mm off the floor but gap bridged with
stainless steel coving type moulding sealed with tile grout. No sign of
deterioration after four years, which is fortunate because wall mounting
toilet is fixed against it (with bolts from the frame of course). I
think I would be happier with a steel or aluminium frame if the space is
not ventilated.

Hmm... I've got some aluminium channel.

Any thoughts about securing to the floor? The cistern will bolt to the
boxing and I will follow John's advice on silicone to fix the toilet
base. (underfloor heating pipes).

Assuming screwing it to the floor is inconvenient you could use one of
the structural adhesives for building now advertised. I used something
made by CT1 called "Power grab and bond" which seems to work well where
it has to fill gaps. I didn't try it with aluminium though it claims to
work.

--

Roger Hayter

On 12/09/2018 21:54, Tim Lamb wrote:
Shower installed.

Now stressing about boxing the soil pipe run to the toilet.

Simplest isÂ* tiling on waterproof ply over treated timber frame. Damp
area and rot issues due to no ventilation?

Ply ought to be fine. If you are really worried, then grab a few boards
of aquapanel from Wickes to clad your boxing with. Seal with a decent
sealant when done. Also seal the internal corners rather than grouting
them. That way it stays water tight with movement / shrinkage.

Can't screw to floor but could glue to ceramic tiles. Anyone done it?

Yup, fix the battens to the floor with either silicone, or one of the
combined modified silane bond and seal compounds. Plumbers Gold from
toolstation is quite good for this - its a little bit stiffer to work
than normal silicone, but it sticks and seals pretty much anything. It
also stands up to aggressive cleaning better than silicone.

--
Cheers,

John.

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John Rumm Wrote in message:
On 12/09/2018 21:54, Tim Lamb wrote:
Shower installed.

Now stressing about boxing the soil pipe run to the toilet.

Simplest is tiling on waterproof ply over treated timber frame. Damp
area and rot issues due to no ventilation?

Ply ought to be fine. If you are really worried, then grab a few boards
of aquapanel from Wickes to clad your boxing with. Seal with a decent
sealant when done. Also seal the internal corners rather than grouting
them. That way it stays water tight with movement / shrinkage.

Can't screw to floor but could glue to ceramic tiles. Anyone done it?

Yup, fix the battens to the floor with either silicone, or one of the
combined modified silane bond and seal compounds. Plumbers Gold from
toolstation is quite good for this - its a little bit stiffer to work
than normal silicone, but it sticks and seals pretty much anything. It
also stands up to aggressive cleaning better than silicone.


+1
Also equivalent are Stixall or the bargain priced late entrant to
the market Sika Multistick - all at Toolsatan .
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Jim K


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In message , Jim K
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John Rumm Wrote in message:
On 12/09/2018 21:54, Tim Lamb wrote:
Shower installed.

Now stressing about boxing the soil pipe run to the toilet.

Simplest is tiling on waterproof ply over treated timber frame. Damp
area and rot issues due to no ventilation?

Ply ought to be fine. If you are really worried, then grab a few boards
of aquapanel from Wickes to clad your boxing with. Seal with a decent
sealant when done. Also seal the internal corners rather than grouting
them. That way it stays water tight with movement / shrinkage.

Can't screw to floor but could glue to ceramic tiles. Anyone done it?

Yup, fix the battens to the floor with either silicone, or one of the
combined modified silane bond and seal compounds. Plumbers Gold from
toolstation is quite good for this - its a little bit stiffer to work
than normal silicone, but it sticks and seals pretty much anything. It
also stands up to aggressive cleaning better than silicone.


+1
Also equivalent are Stixall or the bargain priced late entrant to
the market Sika Multistick - all at Toolsatan .

Stixall I have.
Todays mistake was fitting the flexible supply pipe with the
toilet/cistern assembled. Out of sight plastic thread. Spanner tight but
free movement in the pipe!
Cross threaded coupling nut!! Oh well, if the second attempt leaks there
is always plumbers mait.

--
Tim Lamb