On 24/07/2018 17:38, bert wrote:
In article , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
Â* Andrew wrote:
1. Massive, year on year increases in the national debt, which by
2010 was increasing by £150 billion per year. That's the entire
cost of the 'free' NHS and the 'free' education system being
*borrowed* every year.

Tees hee. Now look at the national debt since your pals the tories gained
power.

Of course, because of the massive budget deficit they inherited.

Not that old chestnut! Until 2007 Camoron said he would match Broon's
spending plans as well as proposing tax cuts. The Tories also wanted
greater deregulation of banks too.

I might suggest you rejoice it was Labour in Power, otherwise the
ConDem' would have inherited an even bigger mess.

First
thing get the deficit under control and budget back into surplus. Then
you can start reducing debt. Unfortunately there are no quick fixes for
this scale of problem at least not without real austerity of the kind
visited on the Greeks by the EU.

Yes, it's a really smart approach for Greece, less so for Germany.
German tax payers pay for Greece's austerity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...e_to_GDP_ratio

"Fredxx" wrote in message
news
On 24/07/2018 17:38, bert wrote:
In article , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
Andrew wrote:
1. Massive, year on year increases in the national debt, which by
2010 was increasing by £150 billion per year. That's the entire
cost of the 'free' NHS and the 'free' education system being
*borrowed* every year.

Tees hee. Now look at the national debt since your pals the tories
gained
power.

Of course, because of the massive budget deficit they inherited.

Not that old chestnut! Until 2007 Camoron said he would match Broon's
spending plans as well as proposing tax cuts.

Thats not what produced the huge budget deficit they inherited.

The Tories also wanted greater deregulation of banks too.

But its less clear that they would have spend that stupid amount
of money buying up those banks that had failed as a result of that.

I might suggest you rejoice it was Labour in Power, otherwise the ConDem'
would have inherited an even bigger mess.

Even sillier than you usually manage, and thats saying something.

First thing get the deficit under control and budget back into surplus.
Then you can start reducing debt. Unfortunately there are no quick fixes
for this scale of problem at least not without real austerity of the kind
visited on the Greeks by the EU.

Yes, it's a really smart approach for Greece, less so for Germany. German
tax payers pay for Greece's austerity.

And so they should given that it was the kraut banks that
were stupid enough to lend Greece insane amounts of
money that there was no possibility of ever being repaid.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...e_to_GDP_ratio

On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 11:16:10 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"Fredxx" wrote in message
news
On 24/07/2018 17:38, bert wrote:
In article , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
Andrew wrote:
1. Massive, year on year increases in the national debt, which by
2010 was increasing by £150 billion per year. That's the entire
cost of the 'free' NHS and the 'free' education system being
*borrowed* every year.

Tees hee. Now look at the national debt since your pals the tories
gained
power.

Of course, because of the massive budget deficit they inherited.

Not that old chestnut! Until 2007 Camoron said he would match Broon's
spending plans as well as proposing tax cuts.

That’s not what produced the huge budget deficit they inherited.

The Tories also wanted greater deregulation of banks too.

But its less clear that they would have spend that stupid amount
of money buying up those banks that had failed as a result of that.

Thick pillock!

AB

"Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in
message ...
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 11:16:10 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"Fredxx" wrote in message
news
On 24/07/2018 17:38, bert wrote:
In article , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
Andrew wrote:
1. Massive, year on year increases in the national debt, which by
2010 was increasing by £150 billion per year. That's the entire
cost of the 'free' NHS and the 'free' education system being
*borrowed* every year.

Tees hee. Now look at the national debt since your pals the tories
gained
power.

Of course, because of the massive budget deficit they inherited.

Not that old chestnut! Until 2007 Camoron said he would match Broon's
spending plans as well as proposing tax cuts.

That's not what produced the huge budget deficit they inherited.

The Tories also wanted greater deregulation of banks too.

But its less clear that they would have spend that stupid amount
of money buying up those banks that had failed as a result of that.

Thick pillock!

Wota stunning line in rational argument you have there, bog trotter.

On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 13:13:57 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in
message ...
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 11:16:10 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"Fredxx" wrote in message
news On 24/07/2018 17:38, bert wrote:
In article , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
Andrew wrote:
1. Massive, year on year increases in the national debt, which by
2010 was increasing by £150 billion per year. That's the entire
cost of the 'free' NHS and the 'free' education system being
*borrowed* every year.

Tees hee. Now look at the national debt since your pals the tories
gained
power.

Of course, because of the massive budget deficit they inherited.

Not that old chestnut! Until 2007 Camoron said he would match Broon's
spending plans as well as proposing tax cuts.

That's not what produced the huge budget deficit they inherited.

The Tories also wanted greater deregulation of banks too.

But its less clear that they would have spend that stupid amount
of money buying up those banks that had failed as a result of that.

Thick pillock!

Wota stunning line in rational argument you have there, bog trotter.

There really isn't an answer to your inane drivel. Do you ever think
bfore you use the keyboard?

AB

"Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in
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On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 13:13:57 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in
message ...
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 11:16:10 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"Fredxx" wrote in message
news On 24/07/2018 17:38, bert wrote:
In article , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
Andrew wrote:
1. Massive, year on year increases in the national debt, which by
2010 was increasing by £150 billion per year. That's the entire
cost of the 'free' NHS and the 'free' education system being
*borrowed* every year.

Tees hee. Now look at the national debt since your pals the tories
gained
power.

Of course, because of the massive budget deficit they inherited.

Not that old chestnut! Until 2007 Camoron said he would match Broon's
spending plans as well as proposing tax cuts.

That's not what produced the huge budget deficit they inherited.

The Tories also wanted greater deregulation of banks too.

But its less clear that they would have spend that stupid amount
of money buying up those banks that had failed as a result of that.

Thick pillock!

Wota stunning line in rational argument you have there, bog trotter.

There really isn't an answer to your inane drivel.
Do you ever think bfore you use the keyboard?

Wota stunning line in rational argument you have there, bog trotter.

On 26/07/2018 04:57, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 13:13:57 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in
message ...
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 11:16:10 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"Fredxx" wrote in message
news On 24/07/2018 17:38, bert wrote:
In article , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
Andrew wrote:
1. Massive, year on year increases in the national debt, which by
2010 was increasing by £150 billion per year. That's the entire
cost of the 'free' NHS and the 'free' education system being
*borrowed* every year.

Tees hee. Now look at the national debt since your pals the tories
gained
power.

Of course, because of the massive budget deficit they inherited.

Not that old chestnut! Until 2007 Camoron said he would match Broon's
spending plans as well as proposing tax cuts.

That's not what produced the huge budget deficit they inherited.

The Tories also wanted greater deregulation of banks too.

But its less clear that they would have spend that stupid amount
of money buying up those banks that had failed as a result of that.

Thick pillock!

Wota stunning line in rational argument you have there, bog trotter.

There really isn't an answer to your inane drivel. Do you ever think
bfore you use the keyboard?

Your thinking is at the same level of Wodney, and that is saying something.

On 26/07/2018 02:16, Rod Speed wrote:


"Fredxx" wrote in message
news
On 24/07/2018 17:38, bert wrote:
In article , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
Â* Andrew wrote:
1. Massive, year on year increases in the national debt, which by
2010 was increasing by £150 billion per year. That's the entire
cost of the 'free' NHS and the 'free' education system being
*borrowed* every year.

Tees hee. Now look at the national debt since your pals the tories
gained
power.

Of course, because of the massive budget deficit they inherited.

Not that old chestnut! Until 2007 Camoron said he would match Broon's
spending plans as well as proposing tax cuts.

Thats not what produced the huge budget deficit they inherited.

No, but if the Tories had their way the deficit would have been even bigger.

The Tories also wanted greater deregulation of banks too.

But its less clear that they would have spend that stupid amount
of money buying up those banks that had failed as a result of that.

It's clear they would have spent more.

I might suggest you rejoice it was Labour in Power, otherwise the
ConDem' would have inherited an even bigger mess.

Even sillier than you usually manage, and thats saying something.

You're too kind.

FirstÂ* thing get the deficit under control and budget back into
surplus. Then you can start reducing debt. Unfortunately there are no
quick fixes for this scale of problem at least not without real
austerity of the kind visited on the Greeks by the EU.

Yes, it's a really smart approach for Greece, less so for Germany.
German tax payers pay for Greece's austerity.

And so they should given that it was the kraut banks that
were stupid enough to lend Greece insane amounts of
money that there was no possibility of ever being repaid.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...e_to_GDP_ratio

I believe it's call further integration of Europe. I expect most of the
Remoaners wanted us to sign up to the Euro too.

Fredxx wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Fredxx wrote
bert wrote
Dave Plowman (News) wrote
Andrew wrote

1. Massive, year on year increases in the national debt, which by
2010 was increasing by £150 billion per year. That's the entire
cost of the 'free' NHS and the 'free' education system being
*borrowed* every year.

Tees hee. Now look at the national debt since your pals the tories
gained power.

Of course, because of the massive budget deficit they inherited.

Not that old chestnut! Until 2007 Camoron said he would match Broon's
spending plans as well as proposing tax cuts.

Thats not what produced the huge budget deficit they inherited.

No, but if the Tories had their way the deficit would have been even
bigger.

Thats a bare faced lie given the austerity they chose to have
when the brown one got the bums rush at the ballot box.

The Tories also wanted greater deregulation of banks too.

But its less clear that they would have spend that stupid amount
of money buying up those banks that had failed as a result of that.

It's clear they would have spent more.

Another labour lie.

I might suggest you rejoice it was Labour in Power, otherwise the
ConDem' would have inherited an even bigger mess.

Even sillier than you usually manage, and thats saying something.

You're too kind.

Dont want to have you bursting into tears in here,
there are enough of the remoaners howling as it is.

First thing get the deficit under control and budget back into
surplus. Then you can start reducing debt. Unfortunately there are no
quick fixes for this scale of problem at least not without real
austerity of the kind visited on the Greeks by the EU.

Yes, it's a really smart approach for Greece, less so for Germany.
German tax payers pay for Greece's austerity.

And so they should given that it was the kraut banks that
were stupid enough to lend Greece insane amounts of
money that there was no possibility of ever being repaid.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...e_to_GDP_ratio

I believe it's call further integration of Europe.

Yeah, the krauts tried that panzers tanks and stukas previously.

So did the frogs, but with horse drawn artillery mostly.

I expect most of the Remoaners wanted us to sign up to the Euro too.

Must have a look back using groups.google

On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 06:51:44 +1000, cantankerous senile geezer Rot Speed
blabbered, again:

FLUSH inane drivel

I expect most of the Remoaners wanted us to sign up to the Euro too.

Must have a look back using groups.google

Yeah, spend your remaining retarded senile days searching Google groups, you
idiotic senile oaf! LOL

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Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp about senile cretin Rot Speed:
"Thick pillock!"
MID:

On 26/07/2018 01:01, Fredxx wrote:
Not that old chestnut!

An unavoidable chestnut which ever way you look at it.

Nobody *ever* belives what a politician says before an election.

When the annual deficit is as much as the entire annual NHS and
education budget, what do you suggest ?. Do nothing and allow
the deficit to *increase* ?, or do the necessary and recognise
that the UK has simply been living beyond its means. On an
individual basis this means cutting back. It's the same with
GOvernment. Get used to it.

And while we were spending £150 Billion every year that we were just
*borrowing* from future generations, the Germans had built up a
surplus (since 2000) of about 2 trillion euros, mostly by exporting
manufactured goods to places like ... Britain.