I thought it might be worth mentioning, as I haven't had this type of
call before.
Phone rang. Synthesised voice said my name and then said this is BT.
Your broadband will be terminated tonight. Press 1 to do something,
press 2 to do something else ( can't remember what the options were).

I hung up. 1471 said "we do not have the caller's identity".

The voice was clear with a faint hint of Dalek. Much easier to
understand than most foreign scammers.

I wonder what would have happened if I had pressed 1.
--
Bill

On 04/07/2018 19:12, Bill wrote:
I thought it might be worth mentioning, as I haven't had this type of
call before.
Phone rang. Synthesised voice said my name and then said this is BT.
Your broadband will be terminated tonight. Press 1 to do something,
press 2 to do something else ( can't remember what the options were).

I hung up. 1471 said "we do not have the caller's identity".

The voice was clear with a faint hint of Dalek. Much easier to
understand than most foreign scammers.

I wonder what would have happened if I had pressed 1.

Presumably automatically connected to a premium rate number or charged a
fixed sum for connecting to it - like the over-the-phone TV competitions.

SteveW

Probably a human being would have been put on. This is a way to save time
because so many people hang up so it only alerts then to a real caller if
you hit one of the buttons.
Key1 for scam 1 or key 2 for scam three, key 4 for voting on your favourite
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"Bill" wrote in message
...
I thought it might be worth mentioning, as I haven't had this type of call
before.
Phone rang. Synthesised voice said my name and then said this is BT. Your
broadband will be terminated tonight. Press 1 to do something, press 2 to
do something else ( can't remember what the options were).

I hung up. 1471 said "we do not have the caller's identity".

The voice was clear with a faint hint of Dalek. Much easier to understand
than most foreign scammers.

I wonder what would have happened if I had pressed 1.
--
Bill

On 04/07/2018 19:12, Bill wrote:
I thought it might be worth mentioning, as I haven't had this type of
call before.
Phone rang. Synthesised voice said my name and then said this is BT.
Your broadband will be terminated tonight. Press 1 to do something,
press 2 to do something else ( can't remember what the options were).

I hung up. 1471 said "we do not have the caller's identity".

The voice was clear with a faint hint of Dalek. Much easier to
understand than most foreign scammers.

I wonder what would have happened if I had pressed 1.

I've had a couple of similar ones just recently -- as you say, they seem
to be a new style. One was from 'Shirley' from 'Internet Service
Provider'. Apparently, my IP address has been compromised and 'we need
to change your IP address and *router*'.

Made me wonder whether, if I responded to it, they would go so far as to
actually send me a nice new compromised router...

On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 7:12:18 PM UTC+1, Bill wrote:
I thought it might be worth mentioning, as I haven't had this type of
call before.
Phone rang. Synthesised voice said my name and then said this is BT.
Your broadband will be terminated tonight. Press 1 to do something,
press 2 to do something else ( can't remember what the options were).

I hung up. 1471 said "we do not have the caller's identity".

The voice was clear with a faint hint of Dalek. Much easier to
understand than most foreign scammers.

I wonder what would have happened if I had pressed 1.
--
Bill

Same call here, something wrong with out BT line. We haven't had a BT line for years. 1471 number not known

On Wed, 04 Jul 2018 19:35:50 +0100, Steve Walker wrote:

On 04/07/2018 19:12, Bill wrote:
I thought it might be worth mentioning, as I haven't had this type of
call before.
Phone rang. Synthesised voice said my name and then said this is BT.
Your broadband will be terminated tonight. Press 1 to do something,
press 2 to do something else ( can't remember what the options were).

I hung up. 1471 said "we do not have the caller's identity".

The voice was clear with a faint hint of Dalek. Much easier to
understand than most foreign scammers.

I wonder what would have happened if I had pressed 1.

Presumably automatically connected to a premium rate number or charged a
fixed sum for connecting to it - like the over-the-phone TV
competitions.

How would that work, then? I think not.

More likely a way of getting you to talk to a scammer's call centre.
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Steve Walker wrote:

Bill wrote:

I wonder what would have happened if I had pressed 1.

Presumably automatically connected to a premium rate number or charged a
fixed sum for connecting to it - like the over-the-phone TV competitions.

Not possible to be charged as a result of an incoming call, other than
0800-REVERSE.

Possibly tells you an special BT 0898 number you can call to "save" your
broadband from disconnection

On 04/07/2018 19:12, Bill wrote:
I thought it might be worth mentioning, as I haven't had this type of
call before.
Phone rang. Synthesised voice said my name and then said this is BT.
Your broadband will be terminated tonight. Press 1 to do something,
press 2 to do something else ( can't remember what the options were).

I hung up. 1471 said "we do not have the caller's identity".

The voice was clear with a faint hint of Dalek. Much easier to
understand than most foreign scammers.

I wonder what would have happened if I had pressed 1.


I usually ignore such calls, but I recently had one where the caller
wanted me to visit a website which would have allowed him to take
control of my PC. The caller claimed to be from BT, a company which I no
longer have a relationship with


--
Michael Chare

On 04/07/2018 23:39, Michael Chare wrote:

I usually ignore such calls, but I recently had one where the caller
wanted me to visit a website which would have allowed him to take
control of my PC. The caller claimed to be from BT, a company which I no
longer have a relationship with

Even "genuine" BT marketing calls are not from BT but from their 3rd
party marketing partners. These people have no knowledge about what you
may already have from BT.

It's much like dealing with the foot in the door energy selling scum
that used to visit.
"I'm from YOUR energy supplier"
"Hmm?"
"How would you like some cheaper energy?"
"Yes?"
"Who is your current supplier?"
"You have just told me that you are from MY energy supplier so you
should know - good-bye"

I have very strict policy of not buying from any cold caller, email
spammer or giving to any doorstep charity collector who often have
homemade laminated identity badges to try an con the gullible that they
are collecting for a good cause rather than for themselves. I've also
noticed in the past year some very dubious charity collectors outside of
some supermarkets who will be wearing hi-vis jackets and shaking a
day-glo coloured bucket. They all seem to be collecting for some
"generic" children's charity.


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"alan_m" wrote in message
...
On 04/07/2018 23:39, Michael Chare wrote:

I usually ignore such calls, but I recently had one where the caller
wanted me to visit a website which would have allowed him to take control
of my PC. The caller claimed to be from BT, a company which I no longer
have a relationship with

Even "genuine" BT marketing calls are not from BT but from their 3rd party
marketing partners. These people have no knowledge about what you may
already have from BT.

It's much like dealing with the foot in the door energy selling scum that
used to visit.
"I'm from YOUR energy supplier"
"Hmm?"
"How would you like some cheaper energy?"
"Yes?"
"Who is your current supplier?"
"You have just told me that you are from MY energy supplier so you should
know - good-bye"

I have very strict policy of not buying from any cold caller, email
spammer

I dont and had my current electricity supplier pay
me $300 to change to them, no contract and they
are the cheapest of the energy suppliers for me.

or giving to any doorstep charity collector who often have homemade
laminated identity badges to try an con the gullible that they are
collecting for a good cause rather than for themselves.

Yeah, I dont get many of those at all, and never give them anything.

I've also noticed in the past year some very dubious charity collectors
outside of some supermarkets who will be wearing hi-vis jackets and
shaking a day-glo coloured bucket. They all seem to be collecting for some
"generic" children's charity.

We dont get those, just the usual charitys and the salvos etc over Xmas
etc.

Bill presented the following explanation :
The voice was clear with a faint hint of Dalek. Much easier to understand
than most foreign scammers.

I wonder what would have happened if I had pressed 1.

You would have been exterminated lol

On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 18:03:48 +1000, cantankerous geezer Rot Speed blabbered,
again:


I have very strict policy of not buying from any cold caller, email
spammer

I don¢t and had my current electricity supplier pay
me $300 to change to them, no contract and they
are the cheapest of the energy suppliers for me.

Who gives a **** what electricity supplier you use in Australia, senile
Ozzietard?

or giving to any doorstep charity collector who often have homemade
laminated identity badges to try an con the gullible that they are
collecting for a good cause rather than for themselves.

Yeah, I don¢t get many of those at all, and never give them anything.

Good boy! pat pat

I've also noticed in the past year some very dubious charity collectors
outside of some supermarkets who will be wearing hi-vis jackets and
shaking a day-glo coloured bucket. They all seem to be collecting for some
"generic" children's charity.

We don¢t get those, just the usual charitys and the salvos etc over Xmas
etc.

That's what everyone wanted to hear from you, senile Rot! VBG

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In message ,
Kipper at sea writes
On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 7:12:18 PM UTC+1, Bill wrote:
I thought it might be worth mentioning, as I haven't had this type of
call before.
Phone rang. Synthesised voice said my name and then said this is BT.
Your broadband will be terminated tonight. Press 1 to do something,
press 2 to do something else ( can't remember what the options were).

I hung up. 1471 said "we do not have the caller's identity".

The voice was clear with a faint hint of Dalek. Much easier to
understand than most foreign scammers.

I wonder what would have happened if I had pressed 1.
--
Bill

Same call here, something wrong with out BT line. We haven't had a BT
line for years. 1471 number not known

Well, my broadband was not terminated last night, if this gets through.

What was impressive about the scam was the quality of the synthesised
voice and that it used my name. It must be synthesising each call.

I'm probably way out of date with the technology as I have no interest
in Siri or her friends.
--
Bill

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Bill
wrote:

I'm probably way out of date with the technology as I have no interest in
Siri or her friends.

Me too neither. I've also stopped picking up mail on my iPhone as it's
insecure.

It is in fact much more secure than anything else you can use due to the
sandboxing.

Tim Streater wrote:
When writing my email client, I observed this phenomenon while
debugging the app, and so arranged that if you are only previewing the
mail, URLs to download images are disabled. That way it's your choice
whether the images are downloaded. Unfortunately, Apple's Mail app on
the iPhone doesn't seem to care and in fact doesn't even seem to
prevent spam in any way.

https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-prev...images-1172549

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Jeff
wrote:

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
...
In article , Bill
wrote:

I'm probably way out of date with the technology as I have no interest
in Siri or her friends.

Me too neither. I've also stopped picking up mail on my iPhone as it's
insecure.

It is in fact much more secure than anything else you can use due to the
sandboxing.

Spammers have this trick whereby they send you a mail containing URLs
which request the download of a 1px x 1px image, and they encode your
email address in the URL. That way, when their email is displayed on
your device, the email tells the spammers that you have at least opened
the mail, and that, therefore, the email address they have for you is
live and in use. Meaning that they send you more of the same.

When writing my email client, I observed this phenomenon while
debugging the app, and so arranged that if you are only previewing the
mail, URLs to download images are disabled. That way it's your choice
whether the images are downloaded. Unfortunately, Apple's Mail app on
the iPhone doesn't seem to care and in fact doesn't even seem to
prevent spam in any way.

But you are free to use any app you like on your iphone for email and
so you can run yours on it if you want to avoid responding like that.

Of course, it's not only spammers who use this trick. Your favourite
advertisers probably do too. But the net result is I'm back to just
using the desktop for reading email, and only with my own email client.

Makes more sense to have your own app on your iphone instead.

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Jeff
wrote:

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
...
In article , Jeff
wrote:

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
et...
In article , Bill
wrote:

I'm probably way out of date with the technology as I have no interest
in Siri or her friends.

Me too neither. I've also stopped picking up mail on my iPhone as it's
insecure.

It is in fact much more secure than anything else you can use due to the
sandboxing.

Spammers have this trick whereby they send you a mail containing URLs
which request the download of a 1px x 1px image, and they encode your
email address in the URL. That way, when their email is displayed on
your device, the email tells the spammers that you have at least opened
the mail, and that, therefore, the email address they have for you is
live and in use. Meaning that they send you more of the same.

When writing my email client, I observed this phenomenon while
debugging the app, and so arranged that if you are only previewing the
mail, URLs to download images are disabled. That way it's your choice
whether the images are downloaded. Unfortunately, Apple's Mail app on
the iPhone doesn't seem to care and in fact doesn't even seem to
prevent spam in any way.

But you are free to use any app you like on your iphone for email and
so you can run yours on it if you want to avoid responding like that.

Mine is a desktop app.

But can very easily be an iphone app.

Of course, it's not only spammers who use this trick. Your favourite
advertisers probably do too. But the net result is I'm back to just
using the desktop for reading email, and only with my own email client.

Makes more sense to have your own app on your iphone instead.

I'm coming instead to the conclusion that having an iPhone makes no
sense.

More fool you. It is in fact by far the most secure smartphone around.

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Jeff
wrote:

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
...

Mine is a desktop app.

But can very easily be an iphone app.

I'd have to redo it and I really can't be bothered.

Of course, it's not only spammers who use this trick. Your favourite
advertisers probably do too. But the net result is I'm back to just
using the desktop for reading email, and only with my own email
client.

Makes more sense to have your own app on your iphone instead.

I'm coming instead to the conclusion that having an iPhone makes no
sense.

More fool you. It is in fact by far the most secure smartphone around.

Too small.

Not the + ones.

And I've had it six months and have yet to take a picture.

Sure, but it can be handy when the **** hits the fan and
some fool runs into you and tries to bugger off after that.

And handy for very basic stuff like shelf prices when
shopping around instead to taking notes etc.

On 05/07/18 20:15, Tim Streater wrote:
I'm coming instead to the conclusion that having an iPhone makes no
sense.
Yep.

I refuse to use apple anything

After a year of OSX Tiger....

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(or environmental activism) is becoming a general ideology about humans,
about their freedom, about the relationship between the individual and
the state, and about the manipulation of people under the guise of a
'noble' idea. It is not an honest pursuit of 'sustainable development,'
a matter of elementary environmental protection, or a search for
rational mechanisms designed to achieve a healthy environment. Yet
things do occur that make you shake your head and remind yourself that
you live neither in Joseph Stalins Communist era, nor in the Orwellian
utopia of 1984.€�

Vaclav Klaus

On 05/07/18 20:18, Jeff wrote:


"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Jeff
wrote:

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Jeff
wrote:

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Bill
wrote:

I'm probably way out of date with the technology as I have no
interest in Siri or her friends.

Me too neither. I've also stopped picking up mail on my iPhone as
it's
insecure.

It is in fact much more secure than anything else you can use due
to the sandboxing.

Spammers have this trick whereby they send you a mail containing URLs
which request the download of a 1px x 1px image, and they encode your
email address in the URL. That way, when their email is displayed on
your device, the email tells the spammers that you have at least opened
the mail, and that, therefore, the email address they have for you is
live and in use. Meaning that they send you more of the same.

When writing my email client, I observed this phenomenon while
debugging the app, and so arranged that if you are only previewing the
mail, URLs to download images are disabled. That way it's your choice
whether the images are downloaded. Unfortunately, Apple's Mail app on
the iPhone doesn't seem to care and in fact doesn't even seem to
prevent spam in any way.

But you are free to use any app you like on your iphone for email and
so you can run yours on it if you want to avoid responding like that.

Mine is a desktop app.

But can very easily be an iphone app.

Of course, it's not only spammers who use this trick. Your favourite
advertisers probably do too. But the net result is I'm back to just
using the desktop for reading email, and only with my own email client.

Makes more sense to have your own app on your iphone instead.

I'm coming instead to the conclusion that having an iPhone makes no
sense.

More fool you. It is in fact by far the most secure smartphone around.

Anyone who leaves anything on a smartphone that can be stolen and rooted
is a ****ing idiot


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€œit should be clear by now to everyone that activist environmentalism
(or environmental activism) is becoming a general ideology about humans,
about their freedom, about the relationship between the individual and
the state, and about the manipulation of people under the guise of a
'noble' idea. It is not an honest pursuit of 'sustainable development,'
a matter of elementary environmental protection, or a search for
rational mechanisms designed to achieve a healthy environment. Yet
things do occur that make you shake your head and remind yourself that
you live neither in Joseph Stalins Communist era, nor in the Orwellian
utopia of 1984.€�

Vaclav Klaus

On 05/07/18 21:18, Jeff wrote:


"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Jeff
wrote:

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .

Mine is a desktop app.

But can very easily be an iphone app.

I'd have to redo it and I really can't be bothered.

Of course, it's not only spammers who use this trick. Your favourite
advertisers probably do too. But the net result is I'm back to just
using the desktop for reading email, and only with my own email
client.

Makes more sense to have your own app on your iphone instead.

I'm coming instead to the conclusion that having an iPhone makes no
sense.

More fool you. It is in fact by far the most secure smartphone around.

Too small.

Not the + ones.

And I've had it six months and have yet to take a picture.

Sure, but it can be handy when the **** hits the fan and
some fool runs into you and tries to bugger off after that.

And handy for very basic stuff like shelf prices when
shopping around instead to taking notes etc.


Mine seems to be on drugs. Its supposed to be my house


http://vps.templar.co.uk/chez%20moi/1326750.jpg


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"Saki"

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
news
On 05/07/18 20:18, Jeff wrote:


"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Jeff
wrote:

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Jeff

wrote:

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Bill
wrote:

I'm probably way out of date with the technology as I have no
interest in Siri or her friends.

Me too neither. I've also stopped picking up mail on my iPhone as
it's
insecure.

It is in fact much more secure than anything else you can use due to
the sandboxing.

Spammers have this trick whereby they send you a mail containing URLs
which request the download of a 1px x 1px image, and they encode your
email address in the URL. That way, when their email is displayed on
your device, the email tells the spammers that you have at least
opened
the mail, and that, therefore, the email address they have for you is
live and in use. Meaning that they send you more of the same.

When writing my email client, I observed this phenomenon while
debugging the app, and so arranged that if you are only previewing the
mail, URLs to download images are disabled. That way it's your choice
whether the images are downloaded. Unfortunately, Apple's Mail app on
the iPhone doesn't seem to care and in fact doesn't even seem to
prevent spam in any way.

But you are free to use any app you like on your iphone for email and
so you can run yours on it if you want to avoid responding like that.

Mine is a desktop app.

But can very easily be an iphone app.

Of course, it's not only spammers who use this trick. Your favourite
advertisers probably do too. But the net result is I'm back to just
using the desktop for reading email, and only with my own email
client.

Makes more sense to have your own app on your iphone instead.

I'm coming instead to the conclusion that having an iPhone makes no
sense.

More fool you. It is in fact by far the most secure smartphone around.

Anyone who leaves anything on a smartphone that can be stolen and rooted
is a ****ing idiot

You can't do that with iphones and you can watch the thief trying to
do that and see where he is and get the cops to **** him over too.

And he wont be able to get anything off it either. Even the FBI can't.

On 05/07/18 21:55, Jeff wrote:

Anyone who leaves anything on a smartphone that can be stolen and
rooted is a ****ing idiot

You can't do that with iphones and you can watch the thief trying to
do that and see where he is and get the cops to **** him over too.

And he wont be able to get anything off it either. Even the FBI can't.

Oh dear.

Go back and read the story again


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"Think about Gay Marriage."

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
news
On 05/07/18 21:55, Jeff wrote:

Anyone who leaves anything on a smartphone that can be stolen and rooted
is a ****ing idiot

You can't do that with iphones and you can watch the thief trying to
do that and see where he is and get the cops to **** him over too.

And he wont be able to get anything off it either. Even the FBI can't.

Oh dear.

Go back and read the story again

Dont need to, that exploit is gone now.