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Wonder what our St George's flag waving hoards who voted Brexit to 'get
our jobs back' make of the English team having all of four people they likely consider to 'be like them'? -- *(on a baby-size shirt) "Party -- my crib -- two a.m Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 25/06/18 10:27, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Wonder what our St George's flag waving hoards who voted Brexit to 'get our jobs back' make of the English team having all of four people they likely consider to 'be like them'? Dave, why would you assume any English patriot is a racist? Skin colour and cultural affiliation are orthogonal factors unless you are some pureblood weirdo who thinks that in order to be English you have to trace ancestry back 20 generations on this isle (and the right bit of this isle obviously). |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... Wonder what our St George's flag waving hoards who voted Brexit to 'get our jobs back' make of the English team having all of four people they likely consider to 'be like them'? Such a shame as well. As going by Google images at least it seems Scotland would have been to field a full eleven out of eleven. Only sadly, they didn't qualify. While on the subject of "The Three Lions" the Platagenet crest from Anjou in France, before the Three Lions there was the White Hart of Richard 11. I've only just noticed that all the angels on the right hand panel of the Wilton Dyptich are all turned out in team colours. https://eclecticlight.co/2015/11/01/...-gordon-et-al/ michael adams .... |
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In article ,
Tim Watts wrote: On 25/06/18 10:27, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Wonder what our St George's flag waving hoards who voted Brexit to 'get our jobs back' make of the English team having all of four people they likely consider to 'be like them'? Dave, why would you assume any English patriot is a racist? What makes you say I do from that post? Although the 'my country right or wrong' brand of patriotism often does go hand in hand with racism. Skin colour and cultural affiliation are orthogonal factors unless you are some pureblood weirdo who thinks that in order to be English you have to trace ancestry back 20 generations on this isle (and the right bit of this isle obviously). You don't really see the irony of voting Brexit to 'get our jobs back' while cheering on a team made mainly of those who have 'taken jobs from the English'? -- *A fool and his money can throw one hell of a party. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 25/06/2018 14:32, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Tim Watts wrote: On 25/06/18 10:27, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Wonder what our St George's flag waving hoards who voted Brexit to 'get our jobs back' make of the English team having all of four people they likely consider to 'be like them'? Dave, why would you assume any English patriot is a racist? What makes you say I do from that post? Although the 'my country right or wrong' brand of patriotism often does go hand in hand with racism. Skin colour and cultural affiliation are orthogonal factors unless you are some pureblood weirdo who thinks that in order to be English you have to trace ancestry back 20 generations on this isle (and the right bit of this isle obviously). You don't really see the irony of voting Brexit to 'get our jobs back' while cheering on a team made mainly of those who have 'taken jobs from the English'? As usual, every time you mention Brexit you utterly fail: http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...l-players-born |
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On 25/06/18 14:32, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Tim Watts wrote: On 25/06/18 10:27, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Wonder what our St George's flag waving hoards who voted Brexit to 'get our jobs back' make of the English team having all of four people they likely consider to 'be like them'? Dave, why would you assume any English patriot is a racist? What makes you say I do from that post? Although the 'my country right or wrong' brand of patriotism often does go hand in hand with racism. It seemed to be the subtext of the above. But if that was not intended, then... Skin colour and cultural affiliation are orthogonal factors unless you are some pureblood weirdo who thinks that in order to be English you have to trace ancestry back 20 generations on this isle (and the right bit of this isle obviously). You don't really see the irony of voting Brexit to 'get our jobs back' while cheering on a team made mainly of those who have 'taken jobs from the English'? As I don't follow football, you'll have to help me out he 1) Are the all the players in the squad English? Well, British citizens and mostly living in England? 2a) If so, no problem. 2b) If not, then yes, I see the irony, and secondly I think they should be. What *is* the point of a regional team that doesn't actually represent the region? Note ethnic origin is not relevant here, but if you are going to buy in say a French player for England, then it's all rather silly calling it "the England team" IMHO :) |
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On 25/06/18 14:49, Fredxx wrote:
On 25/06/2018 14:32, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: You don't really see the irony of voting Brexit to 'get our jobs back' while cheering on a team made mainly of those who have 'taken jobs from the English'? As usual, every time you mention Brexit you utterly fail: http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...l-players-born That's what I assumed... Interesting the North West has such strong representation... |
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On 25/06/2018 13:26, Tim Watts wrote:
On 25/06/18 10:27, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Wonder what our St George's flag waving hoards who voted Brexit to 'get our jobs back' make of the English team having all of four people they likely consider to 'be like them'? Dave, why would you assume any English patriot is a racist? Skin colour and cultural affiliation are orthogonal factors unless you are some pureblood weirdo who thinks that in order to be English you have to trace ancestry back 20 generations on this isle (and the right bit of this isle obviously). Only 20 generations! What a white settler! For the absence of doubt, yes that is a joke. |
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In article ,
Fredxx wrote: On 25/06/2018 14:32, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Tim Watts wrote: On 25/06/18 10:27, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Wonder what our St George's flag waving hoards who voted Brexit to 'get our jobs back' make of the English team having all of four people they likely consider to 'be like them'? Dave, why would you assume any English patriot is a racist? What makes you say I do from that post? Although the 'my country right or wrong' brand of patriotism often does go hand in hand with racism. Skin colour and cultural affiliation are orthogonal factors unless you are some pureblood weirdo who thinks that in order to be English you have to trace ancestry back 20 generations on this isle (and the right bit of this isle obviously). You don't really see the irony of voting Brexit to 'get our jobs back' while cheering on a team made mainly of those who have 'taken jobs from the English'? As usual, every time you mention Brexit you utterly fail: http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...l-players-born Now give the details of the current squad. -- *Growing old is inevitable, growing up is optional Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 25/06/18 15:10, soup wrote:
On 25/06/2018 13:26, Tim Watts wrote: On 25/06/18 10:27, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Wonder what our St George's flag waving hoards who voted Brexit to 'get our jobs back' make of the English team having all of four people they likely consider to 'be like them'? Dave, why would you assume any English patriot is a racist? Skin colour and cultural affiliation are orthogonal factors unless you are some pureblood weirdo who thinks that in order to be English you have to trace ancestry back 20 generations on this isle (and the right bit of this isle obviously). Only 20 generations! What a white settler! For the absence of doubt, yes that is a joke. :- |
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On 6/25/2018 3:15 PM, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 10:27:02 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Wonder what our St George's flag waving hoards who voted Brexit to 'get our jobs back' make of the English team having all of four people they likely consider to 'be like them'? I was more intrigued that there were Panamanian players "Cooper" and "Davis" :) What sort of surname did you expect? |
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On 25/06/2018 14:52, Tim Watts wrote:
On 25/06/18 14:49, Fredxx wrote: On 25/06/2018 14:32, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: You don't really see the irony of voting Brexit to 'get our jobs back' while cheering on a team made mainly of those who have 'taken jobs from the English'? As usual, every time you mention Brexit you utterly fail: http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...l-players-born That's what I assumed... Interesting the North West has such strong representation... About as big as Yorkshire's:-) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-44495550 -- Adam |
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On 25/06/2018 16:13, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 15:49:44 +0100, S Viemeister wrote: On 6/25/2018 3:15 PM, Jethro_uk wrote: On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 10:27:02 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Wonder what our St George's flag waving hoards who voted Brexit to 'get our jobs back' make of the English team having all of four people they likely consider to 'be like them'? I was more intrigued that there were Panamanian players "Cooper" and "Davis" :) What sort of surname did you expect? Well given they had team mates Escobar, Torres, Rodriguez, Murillo, Penedo ... *******o? -- Adam |
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On 25/06/2018 10:27, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Wonder what our St George's flag waving hoards who voted Brexit to 'get our jobs back' make of the English team having all of four people they likely consider to 'be like them'? When I first started to watch football back in the late 1970s one of the popular chants was "We have got more Wogs than you". -- Adam |
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On 6/25/2018 4:13 PM, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 15:49:44 +0100, S Viemeister wrote: On 6/25/2018 3:15 PM, Jethro_uk wrote: On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 10:27:02 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Wonder what our St George's flag waving hoards who voted Brexit to 'get our jobs back' make of the English team having all of four people they likely consider to 'be like them'? I was more intrigued that there were Panamanian players "Cooper" and "Davis" :) What sort of surname did you expect? Well given they had team mates Escobar, Torres, Rodriguez, Murillo, Penedo ... Considering the history of Panama, I'm surprised there were not _more_ Anglo-type names. |
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On 25/06/2018 15:14, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Fredxx wrote: On 25/06/2018 14:32, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Tim Watts wrote: On 25/06/18 10:27, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Wonder what our St George's flag waving hoards who voted Brexit to 'get our jobs back' make of the English team having all of four people they likely consider to 'be like them'? Dave, why would you assume any English patriot is a racist? What makes you say I do from that post? Although the 'my country right or wrong' brand of patriotism often does go hand in hand with racism. Skin colour and cultural affiliation are orthogonal factors unless you are some pureblood weirdo who thinks that in order to be English you have to trace ancestry back 20 generations on this isle (and the right bit of this isle obviously). You don't really see the irony of voting Brexit to 'get our jobs back' while cheering on a team made mainly of those who have 'taken jobs from the English'? As usual, every time you mention Brexit you utterly fail: http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...l-players-born Now give the details of the current squad. I have no idea what you are trying to prove. I repeat, as usual, every time you mention Brexit you utterly fail: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-44495550 |
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On 25/06/2018 13:26, Tim Watts wrote:
On 25/06/18 10:27, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Wonder what our St George's flag waving hoards who voted Brexit to 'get our jobs back' make of the English team having all of four people they likely consider to 'be like them'? Dave, why would you assume any English patriot is a racist? Probably based on what they say here. |
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On 25/06/18 17:44, dennis@home wrote:
On 25/06/2018 13:26, Tim Watts wrote: On 25/06/18 10:27, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Wonder what our St George's flag waving hoards who voted Brexit to 'get our jobs back' make of the English team having all of four people they likely consider to 'be like them'? Dave, why would you assume any English patriot is a racist? Probably based on what they say here. I'm an English patriot. |
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ARW Wrote in message:
On 25/06/2018 16:13, Jethro_uk wrote: On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 15:49:44 +0100, S Viemeister wrote: On 6/25/2018 3:15 PM, Jethro_uk wrote: On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 10:27:02 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Wonder what our St George's flag waving hoards who voted Brexit to 'get our jobs back' make of the English team having all of four people they likely consider to 'be like them'? I was more intrigued that there were Panamanian players "Cooper" and "Davis" :) What sort of surname did you expect? Well given they had team mates Escobar, Torres, Rodriguez, Murillo, Penedo ... *******o? Peth-eth-eth-eth-eth ? -- -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 25/06/2018 15:10, soup wrote:
On 25/06/2018 13:26, Tim Watts wrote: On 25/06/18 10:27, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Wonder what our St George's flag waving hoards who voted Brexit to 'get our jobs back' make of the English team having all of four people they likely consider to 'be like them'? Dave, why would you assume any English patriot is a racist? Skin colour and cultural affiliation are orthogonal factors unless you are some pureblood weirdo who thinks that in order to be English you have to trace ancestry back 20 generations on this isle (and the right bit of this isle obviously). Only 20 generations! What a white settler! For the absence of doubt, yes that is a joke. Only 15 generations ago and my Scottish ancestors went bankrupt and moved to Liverpool. -- Adam |
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Jethro_uk wrote
Dave Plowman (News) wrote Wonder what our St George's flag waving hoards who voted Brexit to 'get our jobs back' make of the English team having all of four people they likely consider to 'be like them'? I was more intrigued that there were Panamanian players "Cooper" and "Davis" :) No reason to be given the history of Panama. Same with Argentina, lot of welsh names there because a lot of welsh ended up there in the 18th century etc. Scots all over the old empire mostly enthusiastically ****ing the locals. |
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On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 06:06:02 +1000, cantankerous geezer Rot Speed blabbered,
again: Wonder what our St George's flag waving hoards who voted Brexit to 'get our jobs back' make of the English team having all of four people they likely consider to 'be like them'? I was more intrigued that there were Panamanian players "Cooper" and "Davis" :) No reason to be given the history of Panama. Same with Argentina, lot of welsh names there because a lot of welsh ended up there in the 18th century etc. Scots all over the old empire mostly enthusiastically ****ing the locals. Mr Know-it-all knows it all, AGAIN!!! LMAO -- pamela about Rot Speed: "His off the cuff expertise demonstrates how little he knows..." MID: |
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In article , Tim Watts
writes On 25/06/18 14:32, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Tim Watts wrote: On 25/06/18 10:27, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Wonder what our St George's flag waving hoards who voted Brexit to 'get our jobs back' make of the English team having all of four people they likely consider to 'be like them'? Dave, why would you assume any English patriot is a racist? What makes you say I do from that post? Although the 'my country right or wrong' brand of patriotism often does go hand in hand with racism. It seemed to be the subtext of the above. But if that was not intended, then... Skin colour and cultural affiliation are orthogonal factors unless you are some pureblood weirdo who thinks that in order to be English you have to trace ancestry back 20 generations on this isle (and the right bit of this isle obviously). You don't really see the irony of voting Brexit to 'get our jobs back' while cheering on a team made mainly of those who have 'taken jobs from the English'? As I don't follow football, you'll have to help me out he 1) Are the all the players in the squad English? Well, British citizens and mostly living in England? For football the UK is divided into its component parts of England Wales Scotland and NI, a jealousy guarded division. To keep it simple - Born in England or with one or more grandparents born in England. Every country looks at any tenuous association to claim a decent player. Jack Charlton was a prime example when Ireland's manager. Went round the English leagues finding players with an Irish connection who stood little or no chance of getting into the England team so persuaded them to play for Ireland. There are restrictions. You cannot simply transfer between countries as you can between clubs. 2a) If so, no problem. 2b) If not, then yes, I see the irony, and secondly I think they should be. What *is* the point of a regional team that doesn't actually represent the region? Note ethnic origin is not relevant here, but if you are going to buy in say a French player for England, then it's all rather silly calling it "the England team" IMHO :) Can't be done. -- bert |
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In article , S Viemeister
writes On 6/25/2018 3:15 PM, Jethro_uk wrote: On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 10:27:02 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Wonder what our St George's flag waving hoards who voted Brexit to 'get our jobs back' make of the English team having all of four people they likely consider to 'be like them'? I was more intrigued that there were Panamanian players "Cooper" and "Davis" :) What sort of surname did you expect? Lot's of people of Scottish descent in Panama I should imagine. It's where they invested heavily and rashly went broke and had to beg the English to bale them out in the Act of Union. We've been baling them out ever since. -- bert |
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In article , Tim Watts
writes On 25/06/18 10:27, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Wonder what our St George's flag waving hoards who voted Brexit to 'get our jobs back' make of the English team having all of four people they likely consider to 'be like them'? Dave, why would you assume any English patriot is a racist? Because like most lefties he's a closet racist himself and thinks everyone is the same. Skin colour and cultural affiliation are orthogonal factors unless you are some pureblood weirdo who thinks that in order to be English you have to trace ancestry back 20 generations on this isle (and the right bit of this isle obviously). -- bert |
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"ARW" wrote in message ... On 25/06/2018 15:10, soup wrote: On 25/06/2018 13:26, Tim Watts wrote: On 25/06/18 10:27, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Wonder what our St George's flag waving hoards who voted Brexit to 'get our jobs back' make of the English team having all of four people they likely consider to 'be like them'? Dave, why would you assume any English patriot is a racist? Skin colour and cultural affiliation are orthogonal factors unless you are some pureblood weirdo who thinks that in order to be English you have to trace ancestry back 20 generations on this isle (and the right bit of this isle obviously). Only 20 generations! What a white settler! For the absence of doubt, yes that is a joke. Only 15 generations ago and my Scottish ancestors went bankrupt and moved to Liverpool. Your last name isnt scottish tho ? Maybe they changed their name to escape the bailiffs and the debtors prison. |
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On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 07:26:00 +1000, cantankerous geezer Rot Speed blabbered,
again: Only 15 generations ago and my Scottish ancestors went bankrupt and moved to Liverpool. Your last name isnt scottish tho ? Maybe they changed their name to escape the bailiffs and the debtors prison. You senile idiot just HAVE to open your senile gob, regardless of what senile **** comes out of it, eh, senile Rot? -- Richard addressing Rot Speed: "**** you're thick/pathetic excuse for a troll." MID: |
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On 25/06/2018 21:06, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 16:59:41 +0100, ARW wrote: On 25/06/2018 16:13, Jethro_uk wrote: On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 15:49:44 +0100, S Viemeister wrote: On 6/25/2018 3:15 PM, Jethro_uk wrote: On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 10:27:02 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Wonder what our St George's flag waving hoards who voted Brexit to 'get our jobs back' make of the English team having all of four people they likely consider to 'be like them'? I was more intrigued that there were Panamanian players "Cooper" and "Davis" :) What sort of surname did you expect? Well given they had team mates Escobar, Torres, Rodriguez, Murillo, Penedo ... *******o? You want soft toilet paper you go to Hotel GayBoy ... I have the full DVD collection. 1980s comedy was funny. -- Adam |
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On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 13:26:22 +0100, Tim Watts wrote:
Dave, why would you assume any English patriot is a racist? Because he's a Lefty and that's how his addled mind works. If you're going around with that mindset, always on the lookout for racism, then sooner or later you're going to find it, and probably *lots* of it - everywhere - whether it actually exists or not! -- This message may be freely reproduced without limit or charge only via the Usenet protocol. Reproduction in whole or part through other protocols, whether for profit or not, is conditional upon a charge of GBP10.00 per reproduction. Publication in this manner via non-Usenet protocols constitutes acceptance of this condition. |
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On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 18:08:57 +0100, Tim Watts wrote:
I'm an English patriot. Dennis the Dunce and Dave Plowperson: the Batman & Robin of political correctness. What a team! :-D -- This message may be freely reproduced without limit or charge only via the Usenet protocol. Reproduction in whole or part through other protocols, whether for profit or not, is conditional upon a charge of GBP10.00 per reproduction. Publication in this manner via non-Usenet protocols constitutes acceptance of this condition. |
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On 26/06/2018 21:18, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 18:08:57 +0100, Tim Watts wrote: I'm an English patriot. Dennis the Dunce and Dave Plowperson: the Batman & Robin of political correctness. What a team! :-D Does anyone else know how difficult it is to only use PC words and terms when you get into an argument or a fight with someone of a different ethnicity? -- Adam |
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ARW wrote
Cursitor Doom wrote Tim Watts wrote I'm an English patriot. Dennis the Dunce and Dave Plowperson: the Batman & Robin of political correctness. What a team! :-D Does anyone else know how difficult it is to only use PC words and terms when you get into an argument or a fight with someone of a different ethnicity? I dont even bother. PC has always been completely stupid. |
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 07:03:27 +1000, cantankerous geezer Rot Speed blabbered,
again: Does anyone else know how difficult it is to only use PC words and terms when you get into an argument or a fight with someone of a different ethnicity? I donąt even bother. No ****, Rot! -- Sqwertz to Rot Speed: "This is just a hunch, but I'm betting you're kinda an argumentative asshole. MID: |
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Tim Streater wrote: In article , Cursitor Doom wrote: On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 13:26:22 +0100, Tim Watts wrote: Dave, why would you assume any English patriot is a racist? Because he's a Lefty and that's how his addled mind works. If you're going around with that mindset, always on the lookout for racism, then sooner or later you're going to find it, and probably *lots* of it - everywhere - whether it actually exists or not! A bit like those social workers in - where was it? - Cleveland in the 80s who, having been told about some daft bugger's "theory" about anal dilation, went out and - surprise, surprise - found it. If only your anus were less dilated. To reduce the crap you spout. -- *I stayed up all night to see where the sun went. Then it dawned on me.* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Monday, 25 June 2018 13:26:28 UTC+1, Tim Watts wrote:
On 25/06/18 10:27, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Wonder what our St George's flag waving hoards who voted Brexit to 'get our jobs back' make of the English team having all of four people they likely consider to 'be like them'? Dave, why would you assume any English patriot is a racist? Skin colour and cultural affiliation are orthogonal factors unless you are some pureblood weirdo who thinks that in order to be English you have to trace ancestry back 20 generations on this isle (and the right bit of this isle obviously). He's totally brain dead,that's why. |
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On Monday, 25 June 2018 14:41:58 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Tim Watts wrote: On 25/06/18 10:27, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Wonder what our St George's flag waving hoards who voted Brexit to 'get our jobs back' make of the English team having all of four people they likely consider to 'be like them'? Dave, why would you assume any English patriot is a racist? What makes you say I do from that post? Although the 'my country right or wrong' brand of patriotism often does go hand in hand with racism. Skin colour and cultural affiliation are orthogonal factors unless you are some pureblood weirdo who thinks that in order to be English you have to trace ancestry back 20 generations on this isle (and the right bit of this isle obviously). You don't really see the irony of voting Brexit to 'get our jobs back' while cheering on a team made mainly of those who have 'taken jobs from the English'? -- *A fool and his money can throw one hell of a party. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. Football is for idiots. One lot of Africans playing another lot AFAICS |
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On 27/06/2018 06:46, harry wrote:
Football is for idiots. One lot of Africans playing another lot AFAICS Why don't you say what you really mean as you know perfectly well that they aren't all Africans! |
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On Wednesday, 27 June 2018 09:38:49 UTC+1, dennis@home wrote:
On 27/06/2018 06:46, harry wrote: Football is for idiots. One lot of Africans playing another lot AFAICS Why don't you say what you really mean as you know perfectly well that they aren't all Africans! Why call a football team say Manchester United when nobody is from Manchester & most are from Senegal or similar? |
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Dave is depressingly politically obsessive. What a pity it's got **** all to do with do it yourself.
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On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 09:29:48 -0700, Cynic wrote:
Dave is depressingly politically obsessive. What a pity it's got **** all to do with do it yourself. "Two prisoners looked out from behind the bars of their prison cell. One saw mud, the other saw stars." - Plowman's firmly in the mud-seer camp. -- This message may be freely reproduced without limit or charge only via the Usenet protocol. Reproduction in whole or part through other protocols, whether for profit or not, is conditional upon a charge of GBP10.00 per reproduction. Publication in this manner via non-Usenet protocols constitutes acceptance of this condition. |
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