A shallow trap would leave room for a shelf and bin beneath. Any reason why not?

Thanks,

Peter

"Peter" wrote in message
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A shallow trap would leave room for a shelf and bin beneath. Any reason why not?

Thanks,

Peter

Sink waste traps often have a removeable element which can be
unscrewed so at to physically scoop out any blockage. A quick google
image search suggests bath waste "traps" typically don't offer
this feature.



michael adams

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What about using a bottle trap?

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A shallow trap would leave room for a shelf and bin beneath. Any reason
why not?

Thanks,

Peter

Sink waste traps often have a removeable element which can be unscrewed
so at to physically scoop out any blockage. A quick google image search
suggests bath waste "traps" typically don't offer this feature.

I think they used to inthe days of copper waste fittings

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Some do, but the problem is if he fits a shelf close to it, how on earth
will he get the gunk out of it?

I unfortunately have a different problem the trap on my sink is plastic and
has what I can only describe as a large cup shaped bit screwed on over both
in and out of the trap. The thing has not been off for years and I have a
nasty feeling it never will again. I can't budge it by hand though it has
no way of gripping it except for a kind of few raised ridges. I think if I
used a strap wrench on it I'd break it off at the plug hole or the pipe that
goes out through the wall!
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A shallow trap would leave room for a shelf and bin beneath. Any reason
why not?

Thanks,

Peter

Sink waste traps often have a removeable element which can be
unscrewed so at to physically scoop out any blockage. A quick google
image search suggests bath waste "traps" typically don't offer
this feature.



michael adams

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On 04/06/2018 18:56, michael adams wrote:
"Peter" wrote in message
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A shallow trap would leave room for a shelf and bin beneath. Any reason why not?

Thanks,

Peter

Sink waste traps often have a removeable element which can be
unscrewed so at to physically scoop out any blockage. A quick google
image search suggests bath waste "traps" typically don't offer
this feature.



michael adams

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Yes but as long as you can remove the (shallow) trap easily enough if it
becomes blocked, why not? In the "old days" of lead, the screwed fitting
at the lowest point was the thing you could be reasonably certain of
being able to get undone, with the attachment to the sink and the waste
pipe quite possibly being set solid with boss white or whatever.

With modern fittings, it should be easy enough to disconnect a bath type
trap at each end. Especially if you have a wet and dry vacuum cleaner
ready to mop up the leaks.

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On 04/06/2018 18:02, Peter wrote:
A shallow trap would leave room for a shelf and bin beneath. Any reason why not?

Thanks,

Peter


There is a far easier solution for this. I have done this for my kitchen
sink, my utility room sink and even the en-suite room sink.

I get my waste traps from FRANKE which allows you to put the waste traps
at the BACK or the SIDE of the cupboard so one can reclaim the room
within the cabinet as its no longer in the middle.

In our case, the kitchen sink cabinet is used for our recycling bins.

The utility sink cupboard has very tall washing powder containers within it.

The en-suite cupboard is in fact built over the sloping stairs ceiling
so it has staircase shelving within so the waste trap is at the side of
the cupboard. There was no room for a conventional U trap or I would
have had to cut through the stairs ceiling. I did have to use a 32mm to
40mm ring adapter though with LS-X.

Google for Franke Siphon 1 or siphon II oe Siphon III

or go straight he

https://www.franke.com/gb/en/ks/prod...36_detail.html

ALthough it appears to be for a kitchen sink with multiple bowls and
outlets for dishwashers and washing machines, these can be blanked off
with the supplied blanking discs.

The kit has a long "elbow" which you attach to the sink waste and direct
the water to where you want the 'U' trap to go.

Hope you find this helpful,

Stephen.

On 04/06/18 18:56, michael adams wrote:
"Peter" wrote in message
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A shallow trap would leave room for a shelf and bin beneath. Any reason why not?

Thanks,

Peter

Sink waste traps often have a removeable element which can be
unscrewed so at to physically scoop out any blockage. A quick google
image search suggests bath waste "traps" typically don't offer
this feature.


shwoer ones do but often suck dry leaving pongs


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On 04/06/2018 21:09, Stephen wrote:
On 04/06/2018 18:02, Peter wrote:
A shallow trap would leave room for a shelf and bin beneath. Any
reason why not?

Thanks,

Peter


There is a far easier solution for this. I have done this for my kitchen
sink, my utility room sink and even the en-suite room sink.

I get my waste traps from FRANKE which allows you to put the waste traps
at the BACK or the SIDE of the cupboard so one can reclaim the room
within the cabinet as its no longer in the middle.


Thanks for that - good idea, some prices/pics:

https://www.plumbworld.co.uk/kitchen...tes-19567-0000


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On Tuesday, 5 June 2018 08:33:54 UTC+1, RJH wrote:
On 04/06/2018 21:09, Stephen wrote:
On 04/06/2018 18:02, Peter wrote:
A shallow trap would leave room for a shelf and bin beneath. Any
reason why not?

Thanks,

Peter


There is a far easier solution for this. I have done this for my kitchen
sink, my utility room sink and even the en-suite room sink.

I get my waste traps from FRANKE which allows you to put the waste traps
at the BACK or the SIDE of the cupboard so one can reclaim the room
within the cabinet as its no longer in the middle.


Thanks for that - good idea, some prices/pics:

https://www.plumbworld.co.uk/kitchen...tes-19567-0000


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And (rather surprisingly!) B&Q do similar kits for half the price, off-the-shelf. I successfully used a B&Q one in my kitchen 10 years ago:

https://www.diy.com/departments/pack...1306786_BQ.prd

https://www.diy.com/departments/flop...m/53511_BQ.prd

On 04/06/18 18:02, Peter wrote:
A shallow trap would leave room for a shelf and bin beneath. Any reason why not?

Thanks,

Peter



All that matters is you have the correct depth of water seal.

If you google for Building Approved Documents and look for the one
detailing drainage, that will tell you.

But an alternative solution would be a bottle trap that could be
unscrewed and dropped through a hole in the shelf.

On 04/06/18 21:09, Stephen wrote:
There is a far easier solution for this. I have done this for my kitchen
sink, my utility room sink and even the en-suite room sink.

I get my waste traps from FRANKE which allows you to put the waste traps
at the BACK or the SIDE of the cupboard so one can reclaim the room
within the cabinet as its no longer in the middle.


Good point - the OP could fit a running trap (inline with the pipework)
downstream of the sink and put a simple bend on the sink outlet.

Not sure about the horizontal pipe - it will get smelly.

On Monday, 4 June 2018 18:02:28 UTC+1, Peter wrote:
A shallow trap would leave room for a shelf and bin beneath. Any reason why not?

Thanks,

Peter

Thanks for useful info. Seems like there are at least three possible ways around it.

Peter

On Wed, 6 Jun 2018 03:22:39 -0700 (PDT), Peter wrote:

On Monday, 4 June 2018 18:02:28 UTC+1, Peter wrote:
A shallow trap would leave room for a shelf and bin beneath. Any reason why not?

Thanks,

Peter

Thanks for useful info. Seems like there are at least three possible ways around it.

Peter

Four?
http://hepvo.com/
I fitted one to a 1½ sink taht would have had 2 traps (why?!) and more or
less occupied all of the easily reachable top shelf.
Had to start forward, go through 180 deg. and put one end of the trap just
into the wall.
It freed up almost all of the shelf and worked well for about 8 years - then
frequent v. hot fat...! A replacement is still OK.
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