I am trying to find a reasonably priced single oven with a digital
temerature readout. None of the sites I have visited boast of one.
Anybody any useful recent experience?

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Pinnerite wrote:
I am trying to find a reasonably priced single oven with a digital
temerature readout. None of the sites I have visited boast of one.
Anybody any useful recent experience?

Do you mean one which reads the true temperature as measured by a sensor,
rather than just a digital display of what it's meant to be?

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Pinnerite wrote:
I am trying to find a reasonably priced single oven with a digital
temerature readout. None of the sites I have visited boast of one.
Anybody any useful recent experience?

Do you mean one which reads the true temperature as measured by a sensor,
rather than just a digital display of what it's meant to be?


Yes


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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Pinnerite wrote:
I am trying to find a reasonably priced single oven with a digital
temerature readout. None of the sites I have visited boast of one.
Anybody any useful recent experience?

Do you mean one which reads the true temperature as measured by a sensor,
rather than just a digital display of what it's meant to be?


Yes



Have you found any irrespective of price?

I understood all ovens vary re temperature & control thereof,
that's why you keep checking dishes in ovens & over time learn to
adapt recipes to "your" oven etc?

Eg someone with a cooler than average oven would describe it as a
"slow oven" and maybe set the temperature higher to allow for
this fact in certain culinary circumstances.
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Pinnerite wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Pinnerite wrote:
I am trying to find a reasonably priced single oven with a digital
temerature readout. None of the sites I have visited boast of one.
Anybody any useful recent experience?

Do you mean one which reads the true temperature as measured by a sensor,
rather than just a digital display of what it's meant to be?


Yes


I think any sensible manufacturer would not offer this as it would
clearly show the variations in temperature as the control system cut in
and out causing some customers to be dissatisfied and letters of complaint.
I can't imagine other than a very high end oven employing a 3 term PID
controller when a gradual variation +/- a few degrees from a simple bang
bang controller would make no discernible difference in cooking performance.

On 30/05/2018 08:34, Bob Minchin wrote:
Pinnerite wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Â*Â*Â* Pinnerite wrote:
I am trying to find a reasonably priced single oven with a digital
temerature readout. None of the sites I have visited boast of one.
Anybody any useful recent experience?

Do you mean one which reads the true temperature as measured by a
sensor,
rather than just a digital display of what it's meant to be?


Yes


I think any sensible manufacturer would not offer this as it would
clearly show the variations in temperature as the control system cut in
and out causing some customers to be dissatisfied and letters of complaint.
I can't imagine other than a very high end oven employing a 3 term PID
controller when a gradual variation +/- a few degrees from a simple bang
bang controller would make no discernible difference in cooking
performance.

I've simply got a couple of "floating" thermocouples in my double oven
wired up to a standard display. It is interesting how rapidly the air
temperature drops when the door is opened, and how relatively slow it is
to recover. I regularly use an IR thermometer to check the temperature
of the linings, and sometimes use a probe in the joint. Several decades
ago Cannon had an oven which came with a built-in probe and display.

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On 30/05/2018 09:24, newshound wrote:
On 30/05/2018 08:34, Bob Minchin wrote:
Pinnerite wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Â*Â*Â* Pinnerite wrote:
I am trying to find a reasonably priced single oven with a digital
temerature readout. None of the sites I have visited boast of one.
Anybody any useful recent experience?

Do you mean one which reads the true temperature as measured by a
sensor,
rather than just a digital display of what it's meant to be?


Yes


I think any sensible manufacturer would not offer this as it would
clearly show the variations in temperature as the control system cut
in and out causing some customers to be dissatisfied and letters of
complaint.
I can't imagine other than a very high end oven employing a 3 term PID
controller when a gradual variation +/- a few degrees from a simple
bang bang controller would make no discernible difference in cooking
performance.

I've simply got a couple of "floating" thermocouples in my double oven
wired up to a standard display. It is interesting how rapidly the air
temperature drops when the door is opened, and how relatively slow it is
to recover. I regularly use an IR thermometer to check the temperature
of the linings, and sometimes use a probe in the joint. Several decades
ago Cannon had an oven which came with a built-in probe and display.

Not a conventional oven, but many years ago my parents had a Sharp
microwave with a temperature probe. You could set a temperature and a
time and it would heat to that temperature and then hold that
temperature for the set time.

SteveW

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Pinnerite wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Pinnerite wrote:
I am trying to find a reasonably priced single oven with a digital
temerature readout. None of the sites I have visited boast of one.
Anybody any useful recent experience?

Do you mean one which reads the true temperature as measured by a
sensor,
rather than just a digital display of what it's meant to be?


Yes


I think any sensible manufacturer would not offer this as it would clearly
show the variations in temperature as the control system cut in and out
causing some customers to be dissatisfied and letters of complaint.

And yet they have done with fridges.

I can't imagine other than a very high end oven employing a 3 term PID
controller when a gradual variation +/- a few degrees from a simple bang
bang controller would make no discernible difference in cooking
performance.

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Pinnerite wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Pinnerite wrote:
I am trying to find a reasonably priced single oven with a digital
temerature readout. None of the sites I have visited boast of one.
Anybody any useful recent experience?

Do you mean one which reads the true temperature as measured by a
sensor,
rather than just a digital display of what it's meant to be?


Yes


I think any sensible manufacturer would not offer this as it would
clearly show the variations in temperature as the control system cut
in and out causing some customers to be dissatisfied and letters of
complaint.

And yet they have done with fridges.

I can't imagine other than a very high end oven employing a 3 term PID
controller when a gradual variation +/- a few degrees from a simple
bang bang controller would make no discernible difference in cooking
performance.


Yes, I agree they have put them in refrigeration. However my freezer
never seems to change even if the door has been opened so I assume they
take the measurement on or near the evaporator. There is also a fairly
clever processor in there that runs the auto defrost interval that is
varied according to how often the door is opened so it could also slug
the temperature readout to stop it changing when the door is opened.

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Pinnerite wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Pinnerite wrote:
I am trying to find a reasonably priced single oven with a digital
temerature readout. None of the sites I have visited boast of one.
Anybody any useful recent experience?

Do you mean one which reads the true temperature as measured by a
sensor,
rather than just a digital display of what it's meant to be?


Yes


I think any sensible manufacturer would not offer this as it would clearly
show the variations in temperature as the control system cut in and out
causing some customers to be dissatisfied and letters of complaint.

And yet they have done with fridges.

Isn't it a damn sight easier to hold a temperature 15C away from room temperature than 180C away?

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On Tuesday, 29 May 2018 16:04:21 UTC+1, Pinnerite wrote:
I am trying to find a reasonably priced single oven with a digital
temerature readout. None of the sites I have visited boast of one.
Anybody any useful recent experience?

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Buy one of these probes that ensure meat is cooked through.

https://www.thermometerspecialist.co...n-thermometers

On Tuesday, 29 May 2018 16:04:21 UTC+1, Pinnerite wrote:
I am trying to find a reasonably priced single oven with a digital
temerature readout. None of the sites I have visited boast of one.
Anybody any useful recent experience?

why would any have one? Add your own if you must.

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Pinnerite wrote

I am trying to find a reasonably priced single oven with
a digital temerature readout. None of the sites I have
visited boast of one.Anybody any useful recent experience?

why would any have one?

For the same reason some high end fridges have them.

Add your own if you must.

Rather crude compared with one with it built in.

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On Tuesday, 29 May 2018 16:04:21 UTC+1, Pinnerite wrote:
I am trying to find a reasonably priced single oven with a digital
temerature readout. None of the sites I have visited boast of one.
Anybody any useful recent experience?

why would any have one? Add your own if you must.

Somewhere I have one which hooks over a shelf wire and can be seen
through the door. My caterer chooses to fly by the seat of her pants
based on previous experience.

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On Tuesday, 29 May 2018 16:04:21 UTC+1, Pinnerite wrote:
I am trying to find a reasonably priced single oven with a digital
temerature readout. None of the sites I have visited boast of one.
Anybody any useful recent experience?

why would any have one? Add your own if you must.

Somewhere I have one which hooks over a shelf wire and can be seen
through the door. My caterer ....

Is that the wife?

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On Tuesday, 29 May 2018 16:04:21 UTC+1, Pinnerite wrote:
I am trying to find a reasonably priced single oven with a digital
temerature readout. None of the sites I have visited boast of one.
Anybody any useful recent experience?

why would any have one? Add your own if you must.

Somewhere I have one which hooks over a shelf wire and can be seen
through the door. My caterer ....

Is that the wife?

Yes:-)


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On Wednesday, 30 May 2018 00:56:03 UTC+1, wrote:
On Tuesday, 29 May 2018 16:04:21 UTC+1, Pinnerite wrote:
I am trying to find a reasonably priced single oven with a digital
temerature readout. None of the sites I have visited boast of one.
Anybody any useful recent experience?

why would any have one? Add your own if you must.

I did that temporarily and found the set temp was close enough within +/- 10C so didn't bother again.

I used the themoncouple sensor from a simialr to this one.
https://www.rapidonline.com/atp-dm-6...imeter-90-6561

On Tue, 29 May 2018 16:04:18 +0100, Pinnerite wrote:

I am trying to find a reasonably priced single oven with a digital
temerature readout. None of the sites I have visited boast of one.
Anybody any useful recent experience?

Depends on your definition of 'reasonable' Bosch Serie 8 ovens are so equipped
but it is the set temperature rather than the measured with 5 deg C resolution.
There is also indication of warmup and when the temperature has reached the
actual setpoint

A large (70 litre) single pyrolytic oven was about 750 quid, a smaller (45
litre) single combination oven something nearer 500.

You'd might possibly get actual temperature measurement on an oven intended for
commercial kitchens, the only time I've actually seen it is on an environmental
test chamber (circa 1m^3) which doubled as a beer fridge and also when required
a warming oven for pasties and pies.
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On Wed, 30 May 2018 09:14:31 +0100, The Other Mike wrote:

On Tue, 29 May 2018 16:04:18 +0100, Pinnerite wrote:

I am trying to find a reasonably priced single oven with a digital
temerature readout. None of the sites I have visited boast of one.
Anybody any useful recent experience?

Depends on your definition of 'reasonable' Bosch Serie 8 ovens are so equipped
but it is the set temperature rather than the measured with 5 deg C resolution.
There is also indication of warmup and when the temperature has reached the
actual setpoint

A large (70 litre) single pyrolytic oven was about 750 quid, a smaller (45
litre) single combination oven something nearer 500.

You'd might possibly get actual temperature measurement on an oven intended for
commercial kitchens, the only time I've actually seen it is on an environmental
test chamber (circa 1m^3) which doubled as a beer fridge and also when required
a warming oven for pasties and pies.

Nice to see putting the expensive equipment to good use.

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