Many years ago I made a temporary trailer cover from one of those cheap
blue plastic woven sheets, some plastic "bang together" green eyelets and
a length of bungee cord. Oh, and Gaffer Tape reinforced corners.
The bungee cord snapped the other day and the cover was more or less
destroyed by being dragged along the road until we noticed this (nobody
flashed us up to warn us - did they assume this was some kind of prototype
road cleaning device?).
I need a new trailer cover. I could produce a similar version if I can
find all the bits in the mountain of crap but I am looking at alternatives
which might also make the trailer more secure.
The first thought is a piece of marine ply with wooden bits (batten?) to
fit inside the trailer and possibly a hinge/padlock arrangement.
Anyone done this kind of thing or made/bought another type of cover?

Trailer is approximately 1250 mm long by 1050 mm wide external
measurements.

I do have a lot of spare bits of wood, just not marine ply. One
alternative would be painted WBP, which seems to last well as outside
fencing on building sites.

Cheers


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On 15/05/2018 12:42, David wrote:

I do have a lot of spare bits of wood, just not marine ply. One
alternative would be painted WBP, which seems to last well as outside
fencing on building sites.

Is the trailer stored under cover?

On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:42:35 +0000, David wrote:

Many years ago I made a temporary trailer cover from one of those cheap
blue plastic woven sheets, some plastic "bang together" green eyelets
and a length of bungee cord. Oh, and Gaffer Tape reinforced corners.
The bungee cord snapped the other day and the cover was more or less
destroyed by being dragged along the road until we noticed this (nobody
flashed us up to warn us - did they assume this was some kind of
prototype road cleaning device?).
I need a new trailer cover. I could produce a similar version if I can
find all the bits in the mountain of crap but I am looking at
alternatives which might also make the trailer more secure.
The first thought is a piece of marine ply with wooden bits (batten?) to
fit inside the trailer and possibly a hinge/padlock arrangement.
Anyone done this kind of thing or made/bought another type of cover?

Trailer is approximately 1250 mm long by 1050 mm wide external
measurements.

I do have a lot of spare bits of wood, just not marine ply. One
alternative would be painted WBP, which seems to last well as outside
fencing on building sites.

Supplemental - if I go for a wood cover then I could need something to
securely clamp it.
Conveniently there is channel all the way round the side and a hook would
fit neatly into it.
So what I might need is something which is apparently called a "toggle
latch".
https://www.protex.com/toggle-latches
However these seem to be designed to work with a "toggle" (I assume) not
just hooking over a side channel. I can screw things to the galvanised
trailer but would prefer not to if possible.

From looking it seems that most applications have the catch on the side of
the trailer pulling the cover down, instead of on the cover pulling the
side up (IYSWIM).

Cheers


Dave R

P.S. is WBP the same as shuttering ply?

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On Tuesday, 15 May 2018 13:19:43 UTC+1, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote:

P.S. is WBP the same as shuttering ply?

no, shuttering is very rough stuff with lots of voids


NT

David presented the following explanation :
I do have a lot of spare bits of wood, just not marine ply. One
alternative would be painted WBP, which seems to last well as outside
fencing on building sites.

By all means make a wooded cover for security, but it would be not that
watertight and in time might rot. As an alternative and maybe as well
as...

If you find one of those companies which repairs and supplies the
curtains for curtain sider lorries and scrounge a bit of surplus
material from them? It is very easy to work with, you just heat weld it
at joints corners. A heat gun, plus a metal roller is all that is
needed to seal joints. Once done, they are extremely robust.

On Tue, 15 May 2018 13:03:09 +0100, GB wrote:

On 15/05/2018 12:42, David wrote:

I do have a lot of spare bits of wood, just not marine ply. One
alternative would be painted WBP, which seems to last well as outside
fencing on building sites.

Is the trailer stored under cover?

When the Gods smile upon it, potentially. For now (and most of its life)
it lives outside in the sun and rain.


Cheers


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On Tue, 15 May 2018 15:33:19 +0100, Harry Bloomfield wrote:

David presented the following explanation :
I do have a lot of spare bits of wood, just not marine ply. One
alternative would be painted WBP, which seems to last well as outside
fencing on building sites.

By all means make a wooded cover for security, but it would be not that
watertight and in time might rot. As an alternative and maybe as well
as...

If you find one of those companies which repairs and supplies the
curtains for curtain sider lorries and scrounge a bit of surplus
material from them? It is very easy to work with, you just heat weld it
at joints corners. A heat gun, plus a metal roller is all that is needed
to seal joints. Once done, they are extremely robust.

Good idea.
Should be some within striking distance.
Back in the day, lorries had "tilts" which covered the open tops.
Not many of those around these days.


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On Tue, 15 May 2018 15:33:19 +0100, Harry Bloomfield wrote:

David presented the following explanation :
I do have a lot of spare bits of wood, just not marine ply. One
alternative would be painted WBP, which seems to last well as outside
fencing on building sites.

By all means make a wooded cover for security, but it would be not that
watertight and in time might rot. As an alternative and maybe as well
as...

If you find one of those companies which repairs and supplies the
curtains for curtain sider lorries and scrounge a bit of surplus
material from them? It is very easy to work with, you just heat weld it
at joints corners. A heat gun, plus a metal roller is all that is needed
to seal joints. Once done, they are extremely robust.

Not sure why it wouldn't be water tight.

Please elucidate. :-)

Cheers



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On 15/05/2018 15:33, David wrote:
On Tue, 15 May 2018 13:03:09 +0100, GB wrote:

On 15/05/2018 12:42, David wrote:

I do have a lot of spare bits of wood, just not marine ply. One
alternative would be painted WBP, which seems to last well as outside
fencing on building sites.

Is the trailer stored under cover?

When the Gods smile upon it, potentially. For now (and most of its life)
it lives outside in the sun and rain.

I suggest marine ply, then.



Cheers


Dave R

David wrote:
Many years ago I made a temporary trailer cover from one of those cheap
blue plastic woven sheets, some plastic "bang together" green eyelets and
a length of bungee cord. Oh, and Gaffer Tape reinforced corners.

I need a new trailer cover. I could produce a similar version if I can
find all the bits in the mountain of crap but I am looking at alternatives
which might also make the trailer more secure.
The first thought is a piece of marine ply with wooden bits (batten?) to
fit inside the trailer and possibly a hinge/padlock arrangement.
Anyone done this kind of thing or made/bought another type of cover?

Trailer is approximately 1250 mm long by 1050 mm wide external
measurements.

1st thought is a rigid cover like that doesnt allow any chance of of
squeezing something a little higher than normal whereas a flexible cover
with bungees or similar can be stretched a little, and in doing so can
apply a bit of downward pressure that holds a load in place.
A timber top wont and any load under it may need additional securing
measures to stop it sliding about.

GH

On Tue, 15 May 2018 17:26:17 +0100, GB wrote:

On 15/05/2018 15:33, David wrote:
On Tue, 15 May 2018 13:03:09 +0100, GB wrote:

On 15/05/2018 12:42, David wrote:

I do have a lot of spare bits of wood, just not marine ply. One
alternative would be painted WBP, which seems to last well as outside
fencing on building sites.

Is the trailer stored under cover?

When the Gods smile upon it, potentially. For now (and most of its
life)
it lives outside in the sun and rain.

I suggest marine ply, then.

Could always keep the trailer cover under cover, of course.

It will take up a lot less space than the trailer.

Cheers



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You can also get old advertising hoarding posters. The ones made of a thick plastic sheet and then clip in to the signs and pulled tight. I know someone who used to buy them for tarps so if interested I could find out where he got them.

On 15/05/2018 13:19, David wrote:
On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:42:35 +0000, David wrote:

Many years ago I made a temporary trailer cover from one of those cheap
blue plastic woven sheets, some plastic "bang together" green eyelets
and a length of bungee cord. Oh, and Gaffer Tape reinforced corners.
The bungee cord snapped the other day and the cover was more or less
destroyed by being dragged along the road until we noticed this (nobody
flashed us up to warn us - did they assume this was some kind of
prototype road cleaning device?).
I need a new trailer cover. I could produce a similar version if I can
find all the bits in the mountain of crap but I am looking at
alternatives which might also make the trailer more secure.
The first thought is a piece of marine ply with wooden bits (batten?) to
fit inside the trailer and possibly a hinge/padlock arrangement.
Anyone done this kind of thing or made/bought another type of cover?

Trailer is approximately 1250 mm long by 1050 mm wide external
measurements.

I do have a lot of spare bits of wood, just not marine ply. One
alternative would be painted WBP, which seems to last well as outside
fencing on building sites.

Supplemental - if I go for a wood cover then I could need something to
securely clamp it.
Conveniently there is channel all the way round the side and a hook would
fit neatly into it.
So what I might need is something which is apparently called a "toggle
latch".
https://www.protex.com/toggle-latches
However these seem to be designed to work with a "toggle" (I assume) not
just hooking over a side channel. I can screw things to the galvanised
trailer but would prefer not to if possible.

I went for drilling and bolting hinges on.

The lid was just bigger than the trailer, with battens that fitted over
the trailer. On one side it was hinged to the trailer with lift-off
hinges (the battens prevented it being slid off when the lid was shut.
On the other side were hasps and padlocks. Ideal for leaving for a short
while at motorway services and the like.

Another thing I did was to make wooden panels. Three bolted together and
had threaded rods in the bottom edge to bolt down to the top edge of the
trailer and the fourth slid onto hinges on the rear, drop-down panel. A
couple of toggle latches held it into a box shape, giving 18" extension
sides that could be fitted or removed in about 15 minutes. A duplicate
set of hinges and hasps on the sides allowed the lid to go onto that if
needed. Once the lid was on, the rear panel could not be opened, even if
the latches were opened.

Unfortunately, some scrote nicked it from my parents' when they'd
borrowed it to collect a Christmas tree.

I haven't made replacement sides or top for my current trailer, as my
father has bought his own trailer and I made sides and top for that. So
I use my own trailer for dirty stuff, such as taking rbbish to the tip
and I nip round and borrow his for moving clean stuff or where I need
the extra height or a lid.

SteveW

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On 15/05/2018 13:19, David wrote:
On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:42:35 +0000, David wrote:

Many years ago I made a temporary trailer cover from one of those cheap
blue plastic woven sheets, some plastic "bang together" green eyelets
and a length of bungee cord. Oh, and Gaffer Tape reinforced corners.
The bungee cord snapped the other day and the cover was more or less
destroyed by being dragged along the road until we noticed this (nobody
flashed us up to warn us - did they assume this was some kind of
prototype road cleaning device?).
I need a new trailer cover. I could produce a similar version if I can
find all the bits in the mountain of crap but I am looking at
alternatives which might also make the trailer more secure.
The first thought is a piece of marine ply with wooden bits (batten?) to
fit inside the trailer and possibly a hinge/padlock arrangement.
Anyone done this kind of thing or made/bought another type of cover?

Trailer is approximately 1250 mm long by 1050 mm wide external
measurements.

I do have a lot of spare bits of wood, just not marine ply. One
alternative would be painted WBP, which seems to last well as outside
fencing on building sites.

Supplemental - if I go for a wood cover then I could need something to
securely clamp it.
Conveniently there is channel all the way round the side and a hook would
fit neatly into it.
So what I might need is something which is apparently called a "toggle
latch".
https://www.protex.com/toggle-latches
However these seem to be designed to work with a "toggle" (I assume) not
just hooking over a side channel. I can screw things to the galvanised
trailer but would prefer not to if possible.

I went for drilling and bolting hinges on.

The lid was just bigger than the trailer, with battens that fitted over
the trailer. On one side it was hinged to the trailer with lift-off hinges
(the battens prevented it being slid off when the lid was shut. On the
other side were hasps and padlocks. Ideal for leaving for a short while at
motorway services and the like.

What tradies use here is a full metal cover with a peaked thing down
the middle of the trailer with the hinges for metal doors down that.
http://www.smutrailers.com/untitled1.html

Unless its for big stuff like sound systems or motorbikes etc when its
usually a full metal body with hinged metal vertical doors at the back.
https://www.trailersuperstore.com/sh...cargo-trailer/

Another thing I did was to make wooden panels. Three bolted together and
had threaded rods in the bottom edge to bolt down to the top edge of the
trailer and the fourth slid onto hinges on the rear, drop-down panel. A
couple of toggle latches held it into a box shape, giving 18" extension
sides that could be fitted or removed in about 15 minutes. A duplicate set
of hinges and hasps on the sides allowed the lid to go onto that if
needed. Once the lid was on, the rear panel could not be opened, even if
the latches were opened.

Unfortunately, some scrote nicked it from my parents' when they'd borrowed
it to collect a Christmas tree.

I chain my to the house with a high tensile chain. Corse that
wont stop someone with a battery powered angle grinder
but the noise from cutting that off and the thing on the
towing hitch that stops it being put on the tow bar would
see me sic the alsatian on them before they managed to
cut it and would result in tears before bed time for them.

I haven't made replacement sides or top for my current trailer, as my
father has bought his own trailer and I made sides and top for that. So I
use my own trailer for dirty stuff, such as taking rbbish to the tip and I
nip round and borrow his for moving clean stuff or where I need the extra
height or a lid.

On Tue, 15 May 2018 23:36:26 +0100, Steve Walker wrote:

On 15/05/2018 13:19, David wrote:
On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:42:35 +0000, David wrote:

Many years ago I made a temporary trailer cover from one of those
cheap blue plastic woven sheets, some plastic "bang together" green
eyelets and a length of bungee cord. Oh, and Gaffer Tape reinforced
corners. The bungee cord snapped the other day and the cover was more
or less destroyed by being dragged along the road until we noticed
this (nobody flashed us up to warn us - did they assume this was some
kind of prototype road cleaning device?).
I need a new trailer cover. I could produce a similar version if I can
find all the bits in the mountain of crap but I am looking at
alternatives which might also make the trailer more secure.
The first thought is a piece of marine ply with wooden bits (batten?)
to fit inside the trailer and possibly a hinge/padlock arrangement.
Anyone done this kind of thing or made/bought another type of cover?

Trailer is approximately 1250 mm long by 1050 mm wide external
measurements.

I do have a lot of spare bits of wood, just not marine ply. One
alternative would be painted WBP, which seems to last well as outside
fencing on building sites.

Supplemental - if I go for a wood cover then I could need something to
securely clamp it.
Conveniently there is channel all the way round the side and a hook
would fit neatly into it.
So what I might need is something which is apparently called a "toggle
latch".
https://www.protex.com/toggle-latches
However these seem to be designed to work with a "toggle" (I assume)
not just hooking over a side channel. I can screw things to the
galvanised trailer but would prefer not to if possible.

I went for drilling and bolting hinges on.

The lid was just bigger than the trailer, with battens that fitted over
the trailer. On one side it was hinged to the trailer with lift-off
hinges (the battens prevented it being slid off when the lid was shut.
On the other side were hasps and padlocks. Ideal for leaving for a short
while at motorway services and the like.

Another thing I did was to make wooden panels. Three bolted together and
had threaded rods in the bottom edge to bolt down to the top edge of the
trailer and the fourth slid onto hinges on the rear, drop-down panel. A
couple of toggle latches held it into a box shape, giving 18" extension
sides that could be fitted or removed in about 15 minutes. A duplicate
set of hinges and hasps on the sides allowed the lid to go onto that if
needed. Once the lid was on, the rear panel could not be opened, even if
the latches were opened.

Unfortunately, some scrote nicked it from my parents' when they'd
borrowed it to collect a Christmas tree.

I haven't made replacement sides or top for my current trailer, as my
father has bought his own trailer and I made sides and top for that. So
I use my own trailer for dirty stuff, such as taking rbbish to the tip
and I nip round and borrow his for moving clean stuff or where I need
the extra height or a lid.

SteveW

Thanks - very informative. :-)


Cheers


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On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 3:44:49 PM UTC+1, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote:
On Tue, 15 May 2018 15:33:19 +0100, Harry Bloomfield wrote:

David presented the following explanation :
I do have a lot of spare bits of wood, just not marine ply. One
alternative would be painted WBP, which seems to last well as outside
fencing on building sites.

By all means make a wooded cover for security, but it would be not that
watertight and in time might rot. As an alternative and maybe as well
as...

If you find one of those companies which repairs and supplies the
curtains for curtain sider lorries and scrounge a bit of surplus
material from them? It is very easy to work with, you just heat weld it
at joints corners. A heat gun, plus a metal roller is all that is needed
to seal joints. Once done, they are extremely robust.

Not sure why it wouldn't be water tight.

Please elucidate. :-)

Cheers



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The water will gather on top of the marine ply, pool in the centre, and eventually destroy it unless you put a slope on it. Then you'll have to provide a drip edge and find some way to protect it.

Google boat canopies. Chances are you will find one locally and he will be more than happy to make you up a waterproof cover

On 15 May 2018 11:42:35 GMT, David wrote:

snip

Anyone done this kind of thing or made/bought another type of cover?

Trailer is approximately 1250 mm long by 1050 mm wide external
measurements.

I do have a lot of spare bits of wood, just not marine ply. One
alternative would be painted WBP, which seems to last well as outside
fencing on building sites.

FWIW, I built a 1/2 tonne 6'6" x 4' x 4' high box trailer with full
height tailgate / ramp years ago (off an Indespension chassis) and
paneled it out with 1/2" WBP ply. I treated the ply inside and out
with Cuprinol, and primed, undercoated and top-coated the outside with
quality paints.

The original 'lid'' was more 1/2" ply made in two pieces with battens
across inside to both give it support and to hold it in place and then
a PVC top cover hooked down with elastics in the traditional way.

When I got a van I sold the trailer to a mate and some time later,
bought it off him again and cut it down to 18" high general goods
trailer. Along the line it had been left with water in it and so I cut
all the side panels down to make use of the good bits of ply and re
treated them inside and painted the outsides again.

Currently it' got the same two part lift off lid and a basic PVC top
cover and some extra tarp over the lot to keep more of the weather
off.

I don't generally use it with the lid or cover on as most stuff I
carry is too high (the last thing being a 600cc motorbike). [1]

The smaller trailer has a bespoke H/D full depth cover but again, it's
not typically left on when in use.

Cheers, T i m

[1] I typically fit eyebolts to the inside 4 corners and often the
middle of the long edges of all my trailers as that makes holding
things (like motorbikes) down much easier.

On 16/05/2018 15:41, fred wrote:
On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 3:44:49 PM UTC+1, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote:
On Tue, 15 May 2018 15:33:19 +0100, Harry Bloomfield wrote:

David presented the following explanation :
I do have a lot of spare bits of wood, just not marine ply. One
alternative would be painted WBP, which seems to last well as outside
fencing on building sites.

By all means make a wooded cover for security, but it would be not that
watertight and in time might rot. As an alternative and maybe as well
as...

If you find one of those companies which repairs and supplies the
curtains for curtain sider lorries and scrounge a bit of surplus
material from them? It is very easy to work with, you just heat weld it
at joints corners. A heat gun, plus a metal roller is all that is needed
to seal joints. Once done, they are extremely robust.

Not sure why it wouldn't be water tight.

Please elucidate. :-)

Cheers



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The water will gather on top of the marine ply, pool in the centre, and eventually destroy it unless you put a slope on it. Then you'll have to provide a drip edge and find some way to protect it.

Parked up trailers usually slope considerably, so no water will pool -
even one with a jockey wheel or stand takes some effort to get exactly
level.

SteveW

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On 16/05/2018 15:41, fred wrote:
On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 3:44:49 PM UTC+1, David WE Roberts (Google)
wrote:
On Tue, 15 May 2018 15:33:19 +0100, Harry Bloomfield wrote:

David presented the following explanation :
I do have a lot of spare bits of wood, just not marine ply. One
alternative would be painted WBP, which seems to last well as outside
fencing on building sites.

By all means make a wooded cover for security, but it would be not that
watertight and in time might rot. As an alternative and maybe as well
as...

If you find one of those companies which repairs and supplies the
curtains for curtain sider lorries and scrounge a bit of surplus
material from them? It is very easy to work with, you just heat weld it
at joints corners. A heat gun, plus a metal roller is all that is
needed
to seal joints. Once done, they are extremely robust.

Not sure why it wouldn't be water tight.

Please elucidate. :-)

Cheers



Dave R


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The water will gather on top of the marine ply, pool in the centre, and
eventually destroy it unless you put a slope on it. Then you'll have to
provide a drip edge and find some way to protect it.

Parked up trailers usually slope considerably,

You dont see too many with no jockey wheel here now.

so no water will pool

Dunno, even with those, some usually does.
-
even one with a jockey wheel or stand takes some effort to get exactly
level.

But since few covers are domed and most sag a bit, there will still be some
pool.

On 16/05/2018 16:45, T i m wrote:
On 15 May 2018 11:42:35 GMT, David wrote:

snip

Anyone done this kind of thing or made/bought another type of cover?

Trailer is approximately 1250 mm long by 1050 mm wide external
measurements.

I do have a lot of spare bits of wood, just not marine ply. One
alternative would be painted WBP, which seems to last well as outside
fencing on building sites.

FWIW, I built a 1/2 tonne 6'6" x 4' x 4' high box trailer with full
height tailgate / ramp years ago (off an Indespension chassis) and
paneled it out with 1/2" WBP ply. I treated the ply inside and out
with Cuprinol, and primed, undercoated and top-coated the outside with
quality paints.

The original 'lid'' was more 1/2" ply made in two pieces with battens
across inside to both give it support and to hold it in place and then
a PVC top cover hooked down with elastics in the traditional way.

When I got a van I sold the trailer to a mate and some time later,
bought it off him again and cut it down to 18" high general goods
trailer. Along the line it had been left with water in it and so I cut
all the side panels down to make use of the good bits of ply and re
treated them inside and painted the outsides again.

Currently it' got the same two part lift off lid and a basic PVC top
cover and some extra tarp over the lot to keep more of the weather
off.

I don't generally use it with the lid or cover on as most stuff I
carry is too high (the last thing being a 600cc motorbike). [1]

The smaller trailer has a bespoke H/D full depth cover but again, it's
not typically left on when in use.

Cheers, T i m

[1] I typically fit eyebolts to the inside 4 corners and often the
middle of the long edges of all my trailers as that makes holding
things (like motorbikes) down much easier.

+1.

I used the type that fit into seat-belt sockets to add a structure to a
horse trailer some years ago, and still have some spares, together with
a tap for fitting them to box section and the appropriate nuts for
fitting to sheet or angle iron. Readily available from eBay with various
shank lengths, used by rally/racing car builders for fitting full
harness seat belts. Last time I used them was to add securing points for
a 100 litre sprayer to the back of my ATV.

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On Wed, 16 May 2018 21:40:39 +0100, newshound
wrote:

snip

[1] I typically fit eyebolts to the inside 4 corners and often the
middle of the long edges of all my trailers as that makes holding
things (like motorbikes) down much easier.

+1.

I used the type that fit into seat-belt sockets

You mean the slightly dome headed bolts with a shoulder (often used
with a crinkle washer allowing the belt and fitting to rotate)?

to add a structure to a
horse trailer some years ago, and still have some spares, together with
a tap for fitting them to box section and the appropriate nuts for
fitting to sheet or angle iron. Readily available from eBay with various
shank lengths, used by rally/racing car builders for fitting full
harness seat belts. Last time I used them was to add securing points for
a 100 litre sprayer to the back of my ATV.

So, do you use webbing and the seat-belt type ends (rather than a
ratchet strap etc)?

Cheers, T i m