On 29/01/2018 19:14, TheChief wrote:

A very long sig.

Bill

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Hi all

Just returned from Edinburgh where my daughter has a flat.
There are some under cabinet lights in the kitchen which don't
work and I was wondering whether they are even fit for
purpose.

To set the scene, there is a wall switch which controls power to
two double surface mount sockets. Into these sockets are plugged
transformers from 240v AC to 20v DC.
The output from these is via twin bell wire routed behind the
kitchen cupboards to airfare mount down lighters.

The cupboards that these lights fix to are immediately to either
side of a gas hob, which means they get seriously
steamed.

Unfortunately I only took my mains tester in my tool kit, so
couldn't check the transformer output. Either way, there was
power to the double sockets ok, but no bulbs operating.

The questions a
Are these appropriate fittings for this location?
Will anything survive this close to a serious hob?
What type of lighting would the group recommend if I can thread
better cable up behind the cupboard?

I have changed from fluorescent tubes to LEDs in my kitchen as the
fluorescents didn't last long. But my fittings are much further
from the hob, so the lighting type is arguably less
sensitive.

Any constructive comments appreciated.

Phil


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I don't get the other replies here, cannot they see your message?
I think further investigation is in order here. are they halogen lamps?
Maybe the previous user just got fed up with changing them every few weeks.
Might be time for a redesign if the lamps are being fried both inside and
out.
Brian

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Hi all

Just returned from Edinburgh where my daughter has a flat.
There are some under cabinet lights in the kitchen which don't
work and I was wondering whether they are even fit for
purpose.

To set the scene, there is a wall switch which controls power to
two double surface mount sockets. Into these sockets are plugged
transformers from 240v AC to 20v DC.
The output from these is via twin bell wire routed behind the
kitchen cupboards to airfare mount down lighters.

The cupboards that these lights fix to are immediately to either
side of a gas hob, which means they get seriously
steamed.

Unfortunately I only took my mains tester in my tool kit, so
couldn't check the transformer output. Either way, there was
power to the double sockets ok, but no bulbs operating.

The questions a
Are these appropriate fittings for this location?
Will anything survive this close to a serious hob?
What type of lighting would the group recommend if I can thread
better cable up behind the cupboard?

I have changed from fluorescent tubes to LEDs in my kitchen as the
fluorescents didn't last long. But my fittings are much further
from the hob, so the lighting type is arguably less
sensitive.

Any constructive comments appreciated.

Phil


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Bill Wright Wrote in message:
On 29/01/2018 19:14, TheChief wrote:

A very long sig.

Bill


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On 29/01/2018 19:39, Brian Gaff wrote:
I don't get the other replies here, cannot they see your message?

The OPs whole message was after the sig separator... so viewable
(although often dimmed), but more tricky to reply to since many news
readers will strip the sig on reply.




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John Rumm Wrote in message:
On 29/01/2018 19:39, Brian Gaff wrote:
I don't get the other replies here, cannot they see your message?

The OPs whole message was after the sig separator... so viewable
(although often dimmed), but more tricky to reply to since many news
readers will strip the sig on reply.




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Not sure how that happened. My news reader is usually reliable.

Is it necessary to repost?
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John Rumm Wrote in message:
On 29/01/2018 19:39, Brian Gaff wrote:
I don't get the other replies here, cannot they see your message?

The OPs whole message was after the sig separator... so viewable
(although often dimmed), but more tricky to reply to since many news
readers will strip the sig on reply.




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John.

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Not sure how that happened. My news reader is usually reliable.

Is it necessary to repost?

Comes up in a trendy blue on Turnpike:-)

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On Monday, 29 January 2018 19:14:05 UTC, TheChief wrote:

Hi all

Just returned from Edinburgh where my daughter has a flat.
There are some under cabinet lights in the kitchen which don't
work and I was wondering whether they are even fit for
purpose.

To set the scene, there is a wall switch which controls power to
two double surface mount sockets. Into these sockets are plugged
transformers from 240v AC to 20v DC.
The output from these is via twin bell wire routed behind the
kitchen cupboards to airfare mount down lighters.

The cupboards that these lights fix to are immediately to either
side of a gas hob, which means they get seriously
steamed.

Unfortunately I only took my mains tester in my tool kit, so
couldn't check the transformer output. Either way, there was
power to the double sockets ok, but no bulbs operating.

The questions a
Are these appropriate fittings for this location?
Will anything survive this close to a serious hob?
What type of lighting would the group recommend if I can thread
better cable up behind the cupboard?

I have changed from fluorescent tubes to LEDs in my kitchen as the
fluorescents didn't last long. But my fittings are much further
from the hob, so the lighting type is arguably less
sensitive.

Any constructive comments appreciated.

Phil

forgot to say what type of bulbs


NT

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TheChief wrote:
I have changed from fluorescent tubes to LEDs in my kitchen as the
fluorescents didn't last long.

You should have bought decent quality florries.

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Wrote in message:
On Monday, 29 January 2018 19:14:05 UTC, TheChief wrote:

Hi all

Just returned from Edinburgh where my daughter has a flat.
There are some under cabinet lights in the kitchen which don't
work and I was wondering whether they are even fit for
purpose.

To set the scene, there is a wall switch which controls power to
two double surface mount sockets. Into these sockets are plugged
transformers from 240v AC to 20v DC.
The output from these is via twin bell wire routed behind the
kitchen cupboards to airfare mount down lighters.

The cupboards that these lights fix to are immediately to either
side of a gas hob, which means they get seriously
steamed.

Unfortunately I only took my mains tester in my tool kit, so
couldn't check the transformer output. Either way, there was
power to the double sockets ok, but no bulbs operating.

The questions a
Are these appropriate fittings for this location?
Will anything survive this close to a serious hob?
What type of lighting would the group recommend if I can thread
better cable up behind the cupboard?

I have changed from fluorescent tubes to LEDs in my kitchen as the
fluorescents didn't last long. But my fittings are much further
from the hob, so the lighting type is arguably less
sensitive.

Any constructive comments appreciated.

Phil

forgot to say what type of bulbs


NT


Shurely Halogen?
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On 29/01/2018 20:22, TheChief wrote:

Not sure how that happened. My news reader is usually reliable.

Is it necessary to repost?

Na, I am sure we will manage ;-)




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Well mine obviously does not.
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o.uk...
On 29/01/2018 19:39, Brian Gaff wrote:
I don't get the other replies here, cannot they see your message?

The OPs whole message was after the sig separator... so viewable (although
often dimmed), but more tricky to reply to since many news readers will
strip the sig on reply.




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Cheers,

John.

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A friend of mine has renamed these hellogen lamps as they are hell to keep
going and cost a fortune.

Brian

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In article ,
TheChief wrote:
I have changed from fluorescent tubes to LEDs in my kitchen as the
fluorescents didn't last long.

You should have bought decent quality florries.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 19:14:02 +0000, TheChief wrote:

Hi all

Just returned from Edinburgh where my daughter has a flat.
There are some under cabinet lights in the kitchen which don't
work and I was wondering whether they are even fit for purpose.

To set the scene, there is a wall switch which controls power to
two double surface mount sockets. Into these sockets are plugged
transformers from 240v AC to 20v DC.
The output from these is via twin bell wire routed behind the
kitchen cupboards to airfare mount down lighters.

The cupboards that these lights fix to are immediately to either
side of a gas hob, which means they get seriously steamed.

Unfortunately I only took my mains tester in my tool kit, so
couldn't check the transformer output. Either way, there was power to
the double sockets ok, but no bulbs operating.

The questions a
Are these appropriate fittings for this location?
Will anything survive this close to a serious hob?
What type of lighting would the group recommend if I can thread
better cable up behind the cupboard?

I have changed from fluorescent tubes to LEDs in my kitchen as the
fluorescents didn't last long. But my fittings are much further from
the hob, so the lighting type is arguably less sensitive.

Any constructive comments appreciated.

Phil

My first thought would be to research heat resistant fittings, as this
seems to be the main problem.


Cheers


Dave R


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