I'm getting noises from a domain owner that this is a difficult process.

Can anyone outline the procedure?

Fredxx wrote:

I'm getting noises from a domain owner that this is a difficult process.

piece of ****

Can anyone outline the procedure?

Find IPSTAG of exiting registrar e.g. for whatever.co.uk, the tag is
"BPC-CA"

https://www.nominet.uk/whois/?query=whatever.co.uk#whois-results

choose a new hosting company, ask them for their IPSTAG

Contact the existing registrar, tell them to change the domain's IPSTAG
to that of the new hosting company, you may be able to do this online
with the existing provider

Then go through the new host's "import" procedure, you'll may have to
pay to extend the domain by a couple of years, about £10

Change the DNS servers to the new provider (or a.n.other if you prefer)

change the MX records for email to the new provider (or a.n.other if you
prefer)

Change the A record for www.whatever.co.uk to the new provider (or
a.n.other if you prefer)

Please note that unless both providers and the person doing the changes
knows exactly what they're doing, there might be a brief "gap" where
email or web, or both aren't working.

As a last resort if existing provider doesn't co-operate, you can go
through Nominet direct but then it will cost about £100, but the
existing provider should not use a dispute (e.g. over payment) as a
reason not to re-tag the domain.

On Mon, 8 Jan 2018 12:35:55 +0000, Fredxx wrote:


I'm getting noises from a domain owner that this is a difficult process.

Can anyone outline the procedure?

FWIW I did it myself with help from the good people here (moving the
web and multiple email addresses) and whilst it was fairly confusing
(if you aren't familiar with it), it all seemed to work out in the
end. ;-)

e.g. There are differences between say a .co.uk and a .com (how much
control you have over them) and sometimes you don't know (without the
skills probably) if stuff is actually happening or not (till it does
or does not etc).

Moving email accounts can be a bit 'manual' but reasonably easy to do
(especially if you want to keep it easy and don't need 100%
continuity).

I think the relative difficulty can depend on the complexity (is the
web side a simple passive HTML jobby or include databases / back
office stuff) and the quantity of data to be moved (bandwidth issues).

Luckily whilst part of the reason for moving was to go from a fairly
large and unreliable(?) email host with support that was abroad we
went to a smaller with UK support, just as they were moving support to
Bulgaria. ;-)

As it happens, they were both very accessible (Support Ticket, Online
Chat, phone) and knowledgeable (no matter who you spoke to).

I think it's one of those things that once you have done it 10 times
with different circumstances, ISPs, user interface panels and the
like, it will come as second nature. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

On 08/01/18 12:35, Fredxx wrote:

I'm getting noises from a domain owner that this is a difficult process.

Can anyone outline the procedure?

It is in principle easy enough, but its tedious.

With the people I use - thats 123 reg - you simply register the domain
Then they send a message to whoever holds the domain asking for it to be
released.

The owner must then sign in blood to release it.

Ther are usually a LOT of emails and logging into websites involved and
it can take some days to complete - specially if its US based like .com
or .org

Allow a week for UK domains and two weeks for US





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always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them"

Margaret Thatcher

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Allow a week for UK domains

A week? I'd be in touch with support if it wasn't all up and running at
the new provider in a couple of hours, assuming the DNS TTL had been
reduced in advance of making the change.

On 08/01/18 16:49, Andy Burns wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Allow a week for UK domains

A week?Â* I'd be in touch with support if it wasn't all up and running at
the new provider in a couple of hours, assuming the DNS TTL had been
reduced in advance of making the change.

you are talking about something else. That is in terms of changing a
machine on an existing domain not changing the domain owner altogether.
Yes. I can set up a new server and do changeover in an hour as you
descrivbe, but in te case of a friend whio had a registered .com domain
that someone else had registered for him, it took nearly 10 days to
contact the friend who had done it, and arrange for the whole domain to
come under my friends PERSONAL ownership and control.


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Karl Marx said religion is the opium of the people.
But Marxism is the crack cocaine.

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

you are talking about something else.

I'm talking about changing the domain registrar, the dns host, web host
and email host all in succession ...

Certainly .com domains tend to take longer, or need manual nudges, but
the O/P specified a .uk domain.

On Mon, 8 Jan 2018 17:20:28 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

you are talking about something else.

I'm talking about changing the domain registrar, the dns host, web host
and email host all in succession ...

Certainly .com domains tend to take longer, or need manual nudges, but
the O/P specified a .uk domain.

And with no suggestion that any extra delays would be incurred by
having to get additional information or permissions from another
party. shrug

They told me things like 'up to 5 days' but it was generally done
within hours (2 x .com and 1 x .co.uk).

Cheers, T i m

On Mon, 8 Jan 2018 16:25:17 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:


Allow a week for UK domains

I moved a co.uk domain from Plusnet to 1and1 in less than two hours
from start to finish, completely online, a couple of years ago.