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Hi all,
As there seem to be a few appliance questions around, it prompted me to get the panels thoughts / opinions / advice on a portable cleaner for my 87 year old Mum for use on the stairs (specifically potentially). Whilst she is actually pretty strong and reasonably agile, something lighter and easier to hold / use than a corded cleaner would be appreciated. I think she already has cleaners upstairs and down but nothing that is easy (for her) to use on the stairs (Inc the Henry etc). The stairs are fully carpeted and the treads fairly big / broad, in case that makes any difference. [1] We have a Dyson V6 Animal but only really use that on the floor in the kitchen or for the car(s). FWIW that can be both hand held or upright use whereas I believe there are two different tools in the Gtech range and similar re 'others'. The inlaws have a Vax cordless upright and they seem to consider it ok. A couple of mates have had the Dysons but now swear by the Gtechs (but generally the full 'Air Ram' rather than the 'Power floor' models? So, this is really just for the stairs but something that could also be used as an upright could also be good. Cheers, T i m [1] Are the Gtech Air Ram models suitable for stair use as she would then probably use that as an 'all-rounder' (assuming it would be better than say a Dyson V6 etc). p.s. Can you get stairs for the Gtechs (when it is out of warranty) as easily as you generally can for the Dysons? |
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T i m wrote:
thoughts / opinions / advice on a portable cleaner for my 87 year old Mum for use on the stairs (specifically potentially). Whilst she is actually pretty strong and reasonably agile, something lighter and easier to hold / use than a corded cleaner would be appreciated. Parents have the Gtech Air Ram and Multi, seem to get on OK with them as lighter than their old vacuums ... |
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On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 13:23:43 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote: T i m wrote: thoughts / opinions / advice on a portable cleaner for my 87 year old Mum for use on the stairs (specifically potentially). Whilst she is actually pretty strong and reasonably agile, something lighter and easier to hold / use than a corded cleaner would be appreciated. Parents have the Gtech Air Ram and Multi, seem to get on OK with them as lighter than their old vacuums ... Would you know if they use the Air Ram on the stairs Andy, or just the Multi? Cheers, T i m |
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On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 13:01:30 +0000, T i m wrote:
As there seem to be a few appliance questions around, it prompted me to get the panels thoughts / opinions / advice on a portable cleaner for my 87 year old Mum for use on the stairs (specifically potentially). Whilst she is actually pretty strong and reasonably agile, something lighter and easier to hold / use than a corded cleaner would be appreciated. I haven't tried it, but thinking of getting a Bosch one. Not cheap, mins, although there are a number of models. p.s. Can you get stairs for the Gtechs (when it is out of warranty) as easily as you generally can for the Dysons? ITYM spares? Bosch are good for that - the occasional spare has a prohibitive price but I've successfully got spares (quickly) from Bosch for washing machine, tumble dryer, dishwasher, food mixer... -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me Β£1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 13:01:30 +0000, T i m wrote:
Hi all, As there seem to be a few appliance questions around, it prompted me to get the panels thoughts / opinions / advice on a portable cleaner for my 87 year old Mum for use on the stairs (specifically potentially). Whilst she is actually pretty strong and reasonably agile, something lighter and easier to hold / use than a corded cleaner would be appreciated. I think she already has cleaners upstairs and down but nothing that is easy (for her) to use on the stairs (Inc the Henry etc). The stairs are fully carpeted and the treads fairly big / broad, in case that makes any difference. [1] We have a Dyson V6 Animal but only really use that on the floor in the kitchen or for the car(s). FWIW that can be both hand held or upright use whereas I believe there are two different tools in the Gtech range and similar re 'others'. The inlaws have a Vax cordless upright and they seem to consider it ok. A couple of mates have had the Dysons but now swear by the Gtechs (but generally the full 'Air Ram' rather than the 'Power floor' models? So, this is really just for the stairs but something that could also be used as an upright could also be good. Cheers, T i m [1] Are the Gtech Air Ram models suitable for stair use as she would then probably use that as an 'all-rounder' (assuming it would be better than say a Dyson V6 etc). p.s. Can you get stairs for the Gtechs (when it is out of warranty) as easily as you generally can for the Dysons? We have the Dyson portable, and it works very well although we have mainly hard floors. When we bought it we had a try of one at John Lewis and asked about the GTech. The sales person said that they didn't stock it any more due to reliability problems. That was a few years back so things may well have changed. A battery powered portable like the Dyson is ideal for doing stairs. Lighter than an electric drill and very easy to handle. It does have a limited battery life so it might not do a whole house in one go, but we are very pleased with it for our purposes. Ours is a DC59 and it has a long powered extension with a carpet beater brush and a couple of short nozzles for doing stairs, furniture etc. I thing the Dyson or the GTech would do for whole house use including the stairs; the best test would be if she stopped using the bigger machines after having the battery powered one for a bit. Either way, the battery powered one is ideal for stairs and is highly recommended in your Mum's case. For a good price on Dyson machines, ring them direct and negotiate. They seem to offer discounts without much effort. HTH Dave R -- AMD FX-6300 in GA-990X-Gaming SLI-CF running Windows 7 Pro x64 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 13:01:30 +0000, T i m wrote:
We have a Dyson V6 Animal but only really use that on the floor in the kitchen or for the car(s). Why not loan it to your Mum to see how she gets on with it? We have a V6 and stairs is one of the places that it does make easier than either man handling the DC04 or using the tool extension hose from the DC04, It does OK as an upright but doesn't clean anywhere near as deeply as the DC04, not surprising with the DC04 having over a 1kW motor to drive the beater bar and suck. My bug bear with the V6 in upright mode is that it's too short and I have to stoop to use it. If the tube extension was around 9" longer that wouldn't be an issue. The cannister is also small and fills quickly. The V6 could never replace the DC04 as the main cleaner, at least not if you want cleanish carpets. You can clean an area with the V6 and immediatly again with the DC04 and the DC04 will collect at least as much dust as the v6 if not more. We are rural so more dirt probably comes in on shoes etc than an urban dwelling where the only outside ground a pair of shoes has contact with is a few yards of relatively clean drive from car to front door... -- Cheers Dave. |
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On 28/12/17 18:28, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 13:01:30 +0000, T i m wrote: We have a Dyson V6 Animal but only really use that on the floor in the kitchen or for the car(s). Why not loan it to your Mum to see how she gets on with it? We have a V6 and stairs is one of the places that it does make easier than either man handling the DC04 or using the tool extension hose from the DC04, It does OK as an upright but doesn't clean anywhere near as deeply as the DC04, not surprising with the DC04 having over a 1kW motor to drive the beater bar and suck. My bug bear with the V6 in upright mode is that it's too short and I have to stoop to use it. If the tube extension was around 9" longer that wouldn't be an issue. The cannister is also small and fills quickly. The V6 could never replace the DC04 as the main cleaner, at least not if you want cleanish carpets. You can clean an area with the V6 and immediatly again with the DC04 and the DC04 will collect at least as much dust as the v6 if not more. We are rural so more dirt probably comes in on shoes etc than an urban dwelling where the only outside ground a pair of shoes has contact with is a few yards of relatively clean drive from car to front door... GETA****INGHENRY Twice the vaccuum: half the price. -- Any fool can believe in principles - and most of them do! |
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A friend of mine who is not very strong swears by a Bosch Athlet model she got from Costco for about Β£160. It's a battery upright that's relatively light, runs for quite a long time on a charge and apparently has the Which? seal of approval.
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On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 18:28:53 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote: On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 13:01:30 +0000, T i m wrote: We have a Dyson V6 Animal but only really use that on the floor in the kitchen or for the car(s). Why not loan it to your Mum to see how she gets on with it? We may well but daughter was hoping to get her something 'known' as a surprise. ;-) We have a V6 and stairs is one of the places that it does make easier than either man handling the DC04 or using the tool extension hose from the DC04, Ok. It does OK as an upright but doesn't clean anywhere near as deeply as the DC04, not surprising with the DC04 having over a 1kW motor to drive the beater bar and suck. Understood. She has a DC04 as well. My bug bear with the V6 in upright mode is that it's too short and I have to stoop to use it. If the tube extension was around 9" longer that wouldn't be an issue. Agreed, being 6' 2" doesn't help either. ;-( The cannister is also small and fills quickly. Agreed. However, she doesn't have kids or muddy boots going up and down all the time so it's really something she might use 'little and often'. (Which also suits a battery device of course). The V6 could never replace the DC04 as the main cleaner, at least not if you want cleanish carpets. You can clean an area with the V6 and immediatly again with the DC04 and the DC04 will collect at least as much dust as the v6 if not more. Not tried that but you could be right. Again, we have washed a carpet after giving it a good going over with the DC04 and the water goes black very quickly! ;-( We are rural so more dirt probably comes in on shoes etc than an urban dwelling where the only outside ground a pair of shoes has contact with is a few yards of relatively clean drive from car to front door... ;-) Unfortunately Mum lives pretty close to a main road and so she does get quite a bit of dirt in from there. Also, we tend to walk round there and she walks to the shops so it's not quite as straightforward as you might think. ;-) We might take our V6 round there and give it a go when she's at my sisters and take it from there. Cheers, T i m |
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On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 11:18:43 -0800 (PST), Murmansk
wrote: A friend of mine who is not very strong swears by a Bosch Athlet model she got from Costco for about £160. It's a battery upright that's relatively light, runs for quite a long time on a charge and apparently has the Which? seal of approval. Thanks for that. Do you know if they use it on the stairs? Cheers, T i m |
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On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 11:18:43 -0800, Murmansk wrote:
A friend of mine who is not very strong swears by a Bosch Athlet model she got from Costco for about Β£160. It's a battery upright that's relatively light, runs for quite a long time on a charge and apparently has the Which? seal of approval. That was the model I was thinking of. If not near a Costco, ao.com have them for Β£155. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me Β£1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On 28/12/2017 19:24, T i m wrote:
Cheers, T i m Not the answer you wanted, but DW suggests spending the money on a cleaner, thus creating employment here rather than China. An extension hose for the downstairs cleaner would provide "proper" cleaning power whilst being lightweight. |
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On 28/12/2017 19:18, Murmansk wrote:
A friend of mine who is not very strong swears by a Bosch Athlet model she got from Costco for about Β£160. It's a battery upright that's relatively light, runs for quite a long time on a charge My mother got one for Christmas (12 months ago) and it really sucks! It's only been used a few times and probably will be discarded soon as not fit for purpose. It doesn't seem to "glide" on fairly deep pile carpeted surfaces making it relatively hard work for my aged mother compared with a cheap and nasty corded small vacuum cleaner (the ones that have a 1.3KW motor but most of the power goes in generating heat). and apparently has the Which? seal of approval. Possibly not tested against the criteria on easy to use by those who now have some form of physical impairment -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 18:30:24 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote: On 28/12/17 18:28, Dave Liquorice wrote: On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 13:01:30 +0000, T i m wrote: We have a Dyson V6 Animal but only really use that on the floor in the kitchen or for the car(s). Why not loan it to your Mum to see how she gets on with it? We have a V6 and stairs is one of the places that it does make easier than either man handling the DC04 or using the tool extension hose from the DC04, GETA****INGHENRY Twice the vaccuum: half the price. They are good, but does a ****ing Henry meet the criteria of the OP who wants a portable cleaner for his aged mother? By portable they probably means something lightweight and cordless. Or did you mean this version http://www.argos.co.uk/product/3837926 G.Harman |
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 08:52:32 +0000, GB
wrote: On 28/12/2017 19:24, T i m wrote: Cheers, T i m Not the answer you wanted, but DW suggests spending the money on a cleaner, thus creating employment here rather than China. An extension hose for the downstairs cleaner would provide "proper" cleaning power whilst being lightweight. And a trip hazard, For an 87 year old a trip and fall can cause injuries that a younger person will find uncomfortable and a nuisance, for the elderly it can often remove any vestige of independent mobility they may have and the final miserable end arrives quite quickly after. For someone of that age if they or a relative have the finance a homehelp for a couple of hours each week can be a good investment to keeping them in their own home as long as possible, £25-40 a week is a lot cheaper than what sitting vegetating in a care home costs. G.Harman |
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 10:17:50 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 29/12/17 10:14, wrote: On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 18:30:24 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 28/12/17 18:28, Dave Liquorice wrote: On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 13:01:30 +0000, T i m wrote: We have a Dyson V6 Animal but only really use that on the floor in the kitchen or for the car(s). Why not loan it to your Mum to see how she gets on with it? We have a V6 and stairs is one of the places that it does make easier than either man handling the DC04 or using the tool extension hose from the DC04, GETA****INGHENRY Twice the vaccuum: half the price. They are good, but does a ****ing Henry meet the criteria of the OP who wants a portable cleaner for his aged mother? Where above does it say that? Henry IS portable By portable they probably means something lightweight and cordless. So uou assume. With no evidencxe to justify. Sigh. The OP: ---------------------------------------------------------------- As there seem to be a few appliance questions around, it prompted me to get the panels thoughts / opinions / advice on a portable cleaner for my 87 year old Mum for use on the stairs (specifically potentially). Whilst she is actually pretty strong and reasonably agile, something lighter and easier to hold / use than a corded cleaner would be appreciated. ---------------------------------------------------------------- -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me Β£1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 10:17:50 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote: GETA****INGHENRY Twice the vaccuum: half the price. They are good, but does a ****ing Henry meet the criteria of the OP who wants a portable cleaner for his aged mother? Where above does it say that? As I referred to the OP you could be sensible and look at the beginning of the thread before going off. Here it is here to save you the trouble of going back "As there seem to be a few appliance questions around, it prompted me to get the panels thoughts / opinions / advice on a portable cleaner for my 87 year old Mum for use on the stairs (specifically potentially). Whilst she is actually pretty strong and reasonably agile, something lighter and easier to hold / use than a corded cleaner would be appreciated." Henry IS portable By portable they probably means something lightweight and cordless. So uou assume. With no evidencxe to justify. repeating what he wrote again incase it still hasn't sunk in "something lighter and easier to hold / use than a corded cleaner would be appreciated." Reading that seem what I wrote a reasonable interpretation of his requirement, You by answering that a Henry is portable did not, They are not cordless or lightweight. Yes technically they are portable but most of those reading will understand that a further degree of ease of handling would be required than suggesting a domesticated version of a cleaner with its roots in industrial cleaning would be a suitable machine for an 87 year old to lug up and clean on stairs. Now go and sober up and/or stop being argumentative for the sake of it and just accept that you misinterpreted this one, further bluster will make you look sillier. Why the bad temper? Your wife sent you a New Year Greeting Card Yard saying "I'm having a Happy New Year at you expense" or something. G.Harman |
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In article ,
wrote: On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 18:30:24 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 28/12/17 18:28, Dave Liquorice wrote: On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 13:01:30 +0000, T i m wrote: We have a Dyson V6 Animal but only really use that on the floor in the kitchen or for the car(s). Why not loan it to your Mum to see how she gets on with it? We have a V6 and stairs is one of the places that it does make easier than either man handling the DC04 or using the tool extension hose from the DC04, GETA****INGHENRY Twice the vaccuum: half the price. They are good, but does a ****ing Henry meet the criteria of the OP who wants a portable cleaner for his aged mother? By portable they probably means something lightweight and cordless. even SWMBO finds lugging Henry upstairs a bit too much. and she's not yet 75! -- from KT24 in Surrey, England |
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In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 29/12/17 10:14, wrote: On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 18:30:24 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 28/12/17 18:28, Dave Liquorice wrote: On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 13:01:30 +0000, T i m wrote: We have a Dyson V6 Animal but only really use that on the floor in the kitchen or for the car(s). Why not loan it to your Mum to see how she gets on with it? We have a V6 and stairs is one of the places that it does make easier than either man handling the DC04 or using the tool extension hose from the DC04, GETA****INGHENRY Twice the vaccuum: half the price. They are good, but does a ****ing Henry meet the criteria of the OP who wants a portable cleaner for his aged mother? Where above does it say that? Henry IS portable but heavy. -- from KT24 in Surrey, England |
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On 29/12/17 10:57, charles wrote:
In article , wrote: On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 18:30:24 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 28/12/17 18:28, Dave Liquorice wrote: On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 13:01:30 +0000, T i m wrote: We have a Dyson V6 Animal but only really use that on the floor in the kitchen or for the car(s). Why not loan it to your Mum to see how she gets on with it? We have a V6 and stairs is one of the places that it does make easier than either man handling the DC04 or using the tool extension hose from the DC04, GETA****INGHENRY Twice the vaccuum: half the price. They are good, but does a ****ing Henry meet the criteria of the OP who wants a portable cleaner for his aged mother? By portable they probably means something lightweight and cordless. even SWMBO finds lugging Henry upstairs a bit too much. and she's not yet 75! Jesus. I am 67 with 5 heart ops and I can still do it! -- it should be clear by now to everyone that activist environmentalism (or environmental activism) is becoming a general ideology about humans, about their freedom, about the relationship between the individual and the state, and about the manipulation of people under the guise of a 'noble' idea. It is not an honest pursuit of 'sustainable development,' a matter of elementary environmental protection, or a search for rational mechanisms designed to achieve a healthy environment. Yet things do occur that make you shake your head and remind yourself that you live neither in Joseph Stalins Communist era, nor in the Orwellian utopia of 1984. Vaclav Klaus |
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On 29/12/17 10:58, charles wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 29/12/17 10:14, wrote: On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 18:30:24 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 28/12/17 18:28, Dave Liquorice wrote: On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 13:01:30 +0000, T i m wrote: We have a Dyson V6 Animal but only really use that on the floor in the kitchen or for the car(s). Why not loan it to your Mum to see how she gets on with it? We have a V6 and stairs is one of the places that it does make easier than either man handling the DC04 or using the tool extension hose from the DC04, GETA****INGHENRY Twice the vaccuum: half the price. They are good, but does a ****ing Henry meet the criteria of the OP who wants a portable cleaner for his aged mother? Where above does it say that? Henry IS portable but heavy. 25kg is heavy. Henry is around 8kg packed and ready to go A christmas turkey weighs that much FFS .. -- it should be clear by now to everyone that activist environmentalism (or environmental activism) is becoming a general ideology about humans, about their freedom, about the relationship between the individual and the state, and about the manipulation of people under the guise of a 'noble' idea. It is not an honest pursuit of 'sustainable development,' a matter of elementary environmental protection, or a search for rational mechanisms designed to achieve a healthy environment. Yet things do occur that make you shake your head and remind yourself that you live neither in Joseph Stalins Communist era, nor in the Orwellian utopia of 1984. Vaclav Klaus |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 29/12/17 10:52, wrote: "something lighter and easier to hold / use than a corded cleaner would be appreciated." the actual head and hose on a henry is a lot lighter than any cordless And it stretches a long way. It only goes about halfway up our stairs. It then needs to be carried upstairs to deal with the upper half of the stairs. -- from KT24 in Surrey, England |
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 10:58:31 +0000 (GMT), charles
wrote: In article , The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 29/12/17 10:14, wrote: On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 18:30:24 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 28/12/17 18:28, Dave Liquorice wrote: On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 13:01:30 +0000, T i m wrote: We have a Dyson V6 Animal but only really use that on the floor in the kitchen or for the car(s). Why not loan it to your Mum to see how she gets on with it? We have a V6 and stairs is one of the places that it does make easier than either man handling the DC04 or using the tool extension hose from the DC04, GETA****INGHENRY Twice the vaccuum: half the price. They are good, but does a ****ing Henry meet the criteria of the OP who wants a portable cleaner for his aged mother? Where above does it say that? Henry IS portable but heavy. And not cordless ... and won't sit on the stairs ... Cheers, T i m |
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In article , The Natural Philosopher
wrote: On 29/12/17 10:57, charles wrote: In article , wrote: On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 18:30:24 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 28/12/17 18:28, Dave Liquorice wrote: On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 13:01:30 +0000, T i m wrote: We have a Dyson V6 Animal but only really use that on the floor in the kitchen or for the car(s). Why not loan it to your Mum to see how she gets on with it? We have a V6 and stairs is one of the places that it does make easier than either man handling the DC04 or using the tool extension hose from the DC04, GETA****INGHENRY Twice the vaccuum: half the price. They are good, but does a ****ing Henry meet the criteria of the OP who wants a portable cleaner for his aged mother? By portable they probably means something lightweight and cordless. even SWMBO finds lugging Henry upstairs a bit too much. and she's not yet 75! Jesus. I am 67 with 5 heart ops and I can still do it! I can still do it - att 77. -- from KT24 in Surrey, England |
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 15:23:53 +0000 (GMT), charles
wrote: snip Jesus. I am 67 with 5 heart ops and I can still do it! I can still do it - att 77. Maybe TNP would like to be my Mums cleaner then? ;-) There is often a big difference between a moderately strong 87 year old lady who happens also to be fairly hard of hearing and can be a bit unstable on her feet having to do something she must do and her doing the same but easier and with less chance of falling down the stairs whilst she's doing it and even a similarly aged person who happens to be stronger and may not have any balance issues. Basically, we are looking into anything that allows her the freedom to look after herself as much as possible whilst minimising the chance of finding her cold at the bottom of the stairs with a (her) Henry on her head. ;-( The question was 'what would the panel recommend for such a role', not who can personally (still) use a Henry on their stairs. ;-) Cheers, T i m |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote: They are good, but does a ****ing Henry meet the criteria of the OP who wants a portable cleaner for his aged mother? Where above does it say that? Henry IS portable Pain in the butt to use on a stair carpet - same as any which uses a hose. As you'd know if you'd ever cleaned a stair carpet. An all in one lightweight cordless unit is best - possibly used in conjunction with a stiff brush. I can still carry a mains unit with hose for stairs - but my little Aldi cordless is great for a quick spruce up. Just to remove bits that show on the carpet, rather than a deep clean. It is also very easy to empty. -- *Modulation in all things * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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charles wrote: In article , The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 29/12/17 10:52, wrote: "something lighter and easier to hold / use than a corded cleaner would be appreciated." the actual head and hose on a henry is a lot lighter than any cordless And it stretches a long way. It only goes about halfway up our stairs. It then needs to be carried upstairs to deal with the upper half of the stairs. Turnip likely lives in a Hobbit house. -- *If you remember the '60s, you weren't really there Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 15:23:17 +0000 (GMT), charles
wrote: In article , The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 29/12/17 10:52, wrote: "something lighter and easier to hold / use than a corded cleaner would be appreciated." the actual head and hose on a henry is a lot lighter than any cordless And it stretches a long way. It only goes about halfway up our stairs. It then needs to be carried upstairs to deal with the upper half of the stairs. And (as has been mentioned elsewhere), if the hose length was doubled it would still present a (trip) hazard and there is still the chance of Henry coming down the stairs like the rock in Raiders of the Lost Ark and taking Mum with it. ;-( And then there is the effort involved in actually moving a brush over a carpet (potentially stuck down with high suction or being twisted out of your hand by the hose) versus using a live head on the end of something hand portable that is all rigid in one thing. Cheers, T i m |
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"T i m" wrote in message ... On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 10:26:43 +0000, wrote: On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 08:52:32 +0000, GB wrote: On 28/12/2017 19:24, T i m wrote: Cheers, T i m Not the answer you wanted, but DW suggests spending the money on a cleaner, thus creating employment here rather than China. An extension hose for the downstairs cleaner would provide "proper" cleaning power whilst being lightweight. And a trip hazard, Yup, something I've just said elsewhere. It's interesting to see that whilst Mum is still fully compo mentis (and can only appear otherwise because her poor hearing tends to isolate her from some of the incidental stuff), she can be quite unstable at times, stumbling over the smallest of things (possibly linked to the poor hearing)? For an 87 year old a trip and fall can cause injuries that a younger person will find uncomfortable and a nuisance, And nasty tears to the ever thinning skin, especially on her hands. On the back of the hands presumably. I don't get that at all, only get it on the bottom half of the arms. for the elderly it can often remove any vestige of independent mobility they may have and the final miserable end arrives quite quickly after. Quite, something we are keen to avoid at any cost. For someone of that age if they or a relative have the finance a homehelp for a couple of hours each week can be a good investment to keeping them in their own home as long as possible, £25-40 a week is a lot cheaper than what sitting vegetating in a care home costs. Luckily, Mum seems way off that stage atm and is really enjoying going out and about with friends and family. The problem we have it stopping her over-extending because of the very points you raise (a small fall or cut could be very bad at her age). An elderly family friend missed the step whilst getting off a coach, fell, banged his head and died right there. ;-( So, we know the Dyson models and believe one might be useable by Mum, initially just for use on the stairs but may also be ok for her to 'have a quick run round' between us doing a more thorough job with a corded cleaner. Depending on what our daughter thinks, she may be happy to let her Gran try ours before getting her one as a gift (which I think is her plan). |
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On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 07:56:53 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote: snip For an 87 year old a trip and fall can cause injuries that a younger person will find uncomfortable and a nuisance, And nasty tears to the ever thinning skin, especially on her hands. On the back of the hands presumably. Yes. She only has to catch it on the slightest thing now and it can tear (and takes a while to heal). Even my sisters dog or our daughters rabbits (claws) have caught her (by mistake). I don't get that at all, only get it on the bottom half of the arms. I think she's ok there? Cheers, T i m |
Dyson / Gtech / other (portable cleaner)?
T i m wrote:
Would you know if they use the Air Ram on the stairs Andy, or just the Multi? She says just the Multi. |
Dyson / Gtech / other (portable cleaner)?
On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 10:29:25 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote: T i m wrote: Would you know if they use the Air Ram on the stairs Andy, or just the Multi? She says just the Multi. Thanks for that Andy. Noted. Cheers, T i m |
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On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 18:30:24 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
GETA****INGHENRY Twice the vaccuum: half the price. Had one, heap of crap by comparison to the DC04. No "beats, as it sweeps, as it cleans" action meaning it didn't clean as deeply, suction dropped off as bag clogged, harder to push the head around on any thing but hard or very short pile carpet, hose had a tendancy to fight back. The only good thing about was the £30 we got for it when we had a garage sale. -- Cheers Dave. |
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On 31/12/2017 10:45, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 18:30:24 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: GETA****INGHENRY Twice the vaccuum: half the price. Had one, heap of crap by comparison to the DC04. No "beats, as it sweeps, as it cleans" action meaning it didn't clean as deeply, I have a Henry brush that beats as it sweeps. Driven by the air flow generated by the vacuum. It works well albeit with a downside that large objects sucked up can jam it which can be overcome by first going around the room a quickly sucking up large rubbish without the brush attached. suction dropped off as bag clogged, harder to push the head around on any thing but hard or very short pile carpet, hose had a tendancy to fight back. Depends on the bags used and the brush head fitted. In my Henry I use the Numatic Hepa-Flo bags which are a type of cloth like construction which maintains suction until extreme heavy with dust/rubbish https://www.amazon.co.uk/Numatic-NVM.../dp/B001D4V4FM. The only good thing about was the Β£30 we got for it when we had a garage sale. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On Thursday, 28 December 2017 18:30:27 UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 28/12/17 18:28, Dave Liquorice wrote: On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 13:01:30 +0000, T i m wrote: We have a Dyson V6 Animal but only really use that on the floor in the kitchen or for the car(s). Why not loan it to your Mum to see how she gets on with it? We have a V6 and stairs is one of the places that it does make easier than either man handling the DC04 or using the tool extension hose from the DC04, It does OK as an upright but doesn't clean anywhere near as deeply as the DC04, not surprising with the DC04 having over a 1kW motor to drive the beater bar and suck. My bug bear with the V6 in upright mode is that it's too short and I have to stoop to use it. If the tube extension was around 9" longer that wouldn't be an issue. The cannister is also small and fills quickly. The V6 could never replace the DC04 as the main cleaner, at least not if you want cleanish carpets. You can clean an area with the V6 and immediatly again with the DC04 and the DC04 will collect at least as much dust as the v6 if not more. We are rural so more dirt probably comes in on shoes etc than an urban dwelling where the only outside ground a pair of shoes has contact with is a few yards of relatively clean drive from car to front door... GETA****INGHENRY Twice the vaccuum: half the price. Lots more hassle though. The workman here after covering our windows ceils with brickdust asked to borrow our dyson portable as they said it was better than their henry was. I think convinece is the key here it takes longer to set up the Henry than it does to clean with the dyson. |
Dyson / Gtech / other (portable cleaner)?
On 03/01/18 13:49, whisky-dave wrote:
I think convinece is the key here it takes longer to set up the Henry than it does to clean with the dyson. I am copmpletely at a loss as to what you have to 'set up' with a Henry... -- "Anyone who believes that the laws of physics are mere social conventions is invited to try transgressing those conventions from the windows of my apartment. (I live on the twenty-first floor.) " Alan Sokal |
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