I, fairly often, get failed email messages for messages I have never
sent, to addresses I have no knowledge of. what is the explanation for
this please?

On 03/12/2017 08:26, Broadback wrote:
I, fairly often, get failed email messages for messages I have never
sent, to addresses I have no knowledge of. what is the explanation for
this please?

https://www.lifewire.com/ignore-deli...ssages-1174019


Do a virus and malware scan as well.

Yep sounds like you have been infected.

"Broadback" wrote in message
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I, fairly often, get failed email messages for messages I have never sent,
to addresses I have no knowledge of. what is the explanation for this
please?

Your system has been ****ed over and is sending those.

Somebody has spoofed the return address on an eemail as yours.
The reasons for doing this could be some kind of scam or just a complete
cock up. Personally I just delete them as if you reply to the original
sender that is conirming you exist and hence your address gets on a list of
live addresses and is sold, or worse, so I just ignore and delete these
days.
Brian

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"Broadback" wrote in message
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I, fairly often, get failed email messages for messages I have never sent,
to addresses I have no knowledge of. what is the explanation for this
please?

Not always the case. Sometimes its just a bit of social engineering to find
out active emails.
Most systems should bounce emails with at least a clue in the header. If
your IP address or computer name shows up then yes, maybe you have been
botted but I've yet to find this is the case. In most cases its just an
error or some kind of way to harvest email addresses that work.

Obviously you should check.
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Yep sounds like you have been infected.

On 03/12/2017 09:31, wrote:
Yep sounds like you have been infected.


Or, as the link Dex posted indicates, very probably not.

I've had bounce messages on and off for years on various accounts and
*always* as a result of the address being spoofed.

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On 03-Dec-17 9:35 AM, Brian Gaff wrote:
Somebody has spoofed the return address on an eemail as yours.
The reasons for doing this could be some kind of scam or just a complete
cock up. Personally I just delete them as if you reply to the original
sender that is conirming you exist and hence your address gets on a list of
live addresses and is sold, or worse, so I just ignore and delete these
days.
Brian

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"Broadback" wrote in message
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I, fairly often, get failed email messages for messages I have never sent,
to addresses I have no knowledge of. what is the explanation for this
please?


It's DIGITAL ...no reason needed .......

Rod Speed submitted this idea :
Your system has been ****ed over and is sending those.

Or someone is able to log into the ISP's server with your details, to
send them from there. You are just receiving the bounce from those
which have a dud address. Worth changing your login details on the
server, plus doing a virus check on your own system in case that is
sending them.

Bounced messages usually have the text of the bounced message, as an
attachment.

On 03/12/17 08:26, Broadback wrote:
I, fairly often, get failed email messages for messages I have never
sent, to addresses I have no knowledge of. what is the explanation for
this please?

Someone is sending mail marked with your return/from address.

Possibly from your account.

Top people who dont exist.



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On 03/12/2017 08:26, Broadback wrote:
I, fairly often, get failed email messages for messages I have never
sent, to addresses I have no knowledge of. what is the explanation for
this please?

The failed message will often have the original sender's IP address.

If it does, best check it to make sure its some Russian IP address
rather than one connected to you.

In the past I've had literally thousands of bounced emails when someone
unpleasant was trying to add credibility to their spam.

On 03/12/17 08:26, Broadback wrote:
I, fairly often, get failed email messages for messages I have never
sent, to addresses I have no knowledge of. what is the explanation for
this please?

Just to be clear and despite what others have said:

There is no reason to think you have been hacked or infected in any way.
Normally it is simply a question of spammers falsifying the 'from' field
in the emails they send out, by using any old email address they have
among the thousands they have harvested. So they are only pretending
their spam comes from you. There isn't much you can do about it.
TW

On 03/12/2017 11:01, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Rod Speed submitted this idea :
Your system has been ****ed over and is sending those.

Or someone is able to log into the ISP's server with your details, to
send them from there. You are just receiving the bounce from those which
have a dud address. Worth changing your login details on the server,


Seems to me a bit excessive if the headers show the emails were sent
from a different server


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On 03/12/17 11:58, TimW wrote:
On 03/12/17 08:26, Broadback wrote:
I, fairly often, get failed email messages for messages I have never
sent, to addresses I have no knowledge of. what is the explanation for
this please?

Just to be clear and despite what others have said:

There is no reason to think you have been hacked or infected in any way.

That depends.

In my friend-with-BT-mail's case, his account had been compromised, and
we finally discovered what had been done - the reply-to AND mail
forwarding had been set to a spurious outlook.com address.


Not that BT was the slightest help in identifying which one


Normally it is simply a question of spammers falsifying the 'from' field
in the emails they send out, by using any old email address they have
among the thousands they have harvested. So they are only pretending
their spam comes from you. There isn't much you can do about it.
TW

But do check to see that accounts have not been compromised byt looking
at te IP addtess of the original sender


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On 03/12/17 12:07, Robin wrote:
On 03/12/2017 11:01, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Rod Speed submitted this idea :
Your system has been ****ed over and is sending those.

Or someone is able to log into the ISP's server with your details, to
send them from there. You are just receiving the bounce from those
which have a dud address. Worth changing your login details on the
server,


Seems to me a bit excessive if the headers show the emails were sent
from a different server


Well the IF is a big IF



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On 03-Dec-17 9:35 AM, Brian Gaff wrote:
Somebody has spoofed the return address on an eemail as yours.
The reasons for doing this could be some kind of scam or just a complete
cock up. Personally I just delete them as if you reply to the original
sender that is conirming you exist and hence your address gets on a list of
live addresses and is sold, or worse, so I just ignore and delete these
days.
Brian

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AVG. They persist in telling me how long I have been using their free
version, threatening all sorts of mayhem on the unprotected bits and
offering discounted upgrades that I assume will morph into an
auto-renewal subscription:-(

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On 03/12/2017 12:12, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 03/12/17 12:07, Robin wrote:
On 03/12/2017 11:01, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Rod Speed submitted this idea :
Your system has been ****ed over and is sending those.

Or someone is able to log into the ISP's server with your details, to
send them from there. You are just receiving the bounce from those
which have a dud address. Worth changing your login details on the
server,


Seems to me a bit excessive if the headers show the emails were sent
from a different server


Well the IF is a big IF





YMMV but I can check the headers in a bounce message a lot faster than I
can change my login details.

And as I said before, I've never had a bounce message that wasn't the
result of a spoofed address.


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On 03/12/17 13:09, Robin wrote:
On 03/12/2017 12:12, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 03/12/17 12:07, Robin wrote:
On 03/12/2017 11:01, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Rod Speed submitted this idea :
Your system has been ****ed over and is sending those.

Or someone is able to log into the ISP's server with your details,
to send them from there. You are just receiving the bounce from
those which have a dud address. Worth changing your login details on
the server,


Seems to me a bit excessive if the headers show the emails were sent
from a different server


Well the IF is a big IF





YMMV but I can check the headers in a bounce message a lot faster than I
can change my login details.

And as I said before, I've never had a bounce message that wasn't the
result of a spoofed address.


Well I have, but I agree, the majority are arbitrary spoof messages
often picked up from people I have sent email to, whose computers have
been infected and whose MS mail address books have been exported to the
DarkNet



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On 03/12/2017 08:26, Broadback wrote:
I, fairly often, get failed email messages for messages I have never
sent, to addresses I have no knowledge of. what is the explanation for
this please?

Your email address (and likely millions of others) is being used as the
source address for a spam campaign. By using a selection of addresses it
makes it harder to block based on simple metrics like sender address.
Its also "good" (for the spammer) since if they are using compromised
PCs to run the campaign, the bounces are not going back to the real
senders which may alert them to a problem.

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On 03/12/2017 13:07, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , john west
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On 03-Dec-17 9:35 AM, Brian Gaff wrote:
Somebody has spoofed the return address on an eemail as yours.
Â* The reasons for doing this could be some kind of scam or just a
complete
cock up. Personally I just delete them as if you reply to the original
sender that is conirming you exist and hence your address gets on a
list of
live addresses and is sold, or worse, so I just ignore and delete these
days.
Â* Brian

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Umm. I use CCleaner but find the upgrade *clickbait* page annoying. Also
AVG. They persist in telling me how long I have been using their free
version, threatening all sorts of mayhem on the unprotected bits and
offering discounted upgrades that I assume will morph into an
auto-renewal subscription:-(

They've been bought by Avast, I hear, who are pushing their AV hard.

Used to find CC ok.

On 03/12/2017 09:31, wrote:
Yep sounds like you have been infected.


Usually if that is the case your ISP will block your email account and
you will not be able to send or receive any emails.

My guess it's the normal crap and the reply/from address has been
spoofed by some spammer. My email program catches quite a few of these
each month and routes them directly to my spam older.

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On 03/12/2017 09:56, john west wrote:


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Malwarebytes now installs as the full premium edition with a 15 day free
trial. After 15 days it reverts to the free version and disables the
"premium" functions. The free version is still worth having/using and
has the same functionality as the free version previously distributed.


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On 03/12/17 16:52, alan_m wrote:
On 03/12/2017 09:56, john west wrote:


use well established, and well regarded free:Â*Â* Malwarebytes and CCleaner

Malwarebytes now installs as the full premium edition with a 15 day free
trial.Â* After 15 days it reverts to the free version and disables the
"premium" functions. The free version is still worth having/using and
has the same functionality as the free version previously distributed.


How quaint, having to install a malware trap...


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