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Lamp batten with switch £1.50
Lamp batten without switch £2.50 Eh!? and to make things even worse: Lamp batten (w/o switch) plus flex and ceiling rose £2.50 I went to Wickes (didn't save anything 1.59 - I could have bought the B&Q switched version and just left the switch permanently on!) And boy are these things a bugger to fit - standing on a chair with your arms at full stretch :-( tim |
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On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 20:19:40 +0100, tim... wrote:
Lamp batten with switch £1.50 Lamp batten without switch £2.50 Eh!? and to make things even worse: Lamp batten (w/o switch) plus flex and ceiling rose £2.50 I went to Wickes (didn't save anything 1.59 - I could have bought the B&Q switched version and just left the switch permanently on!) And boy are these things a bugger to fit - standing on a chair with your arms at full stretch :-( I know it doesn't help much with the original fitting, but I have fitted these, which makes subsequent work easier. https://goo.gl/pH7mu7 -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On Wednesday, 13 September 2017 21:55:22 UTC+1, Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 20:19:40 +0100, tim... wrote: I know it doesn't help much with the original fitting, but I have fitted these, which makes subsequent work easier. https://goo.gl/pH7mu7 I used these with my last light fighting. https://www.rapidonline.com/elkay-13...y-plug-21-1155 https://www.rapidonline.com/elkay-13...socket-21-1185 |
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 03:04:47 -0700, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 13 September 2017 21:55:22 UTC+1, Bob Eager wrote: On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 20:19:40 +0100, tim... wrote: I know it doesn't help much with the original fitting, but I have fitted these, which makes subsequent work easier. https://goo.gl/pH7mu7 I used these with my last light fighting. https://www.rapidonline.com/elkay-13...uded-terminal- block-3-way-plug-21-1155 https://www.rapidonline.com/elkay-13...uded-terminal- block-3-way-socket-21-1185 Yes, but they don't by themselves take the weight of a ceiling fitting. (and they are DISCONTINUED) As it happens, I've used some of those for concealed strip lighting in an enormous wall unit. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On Friday, 15 September 2017 14:52:46 UTC+1, Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 03:04:47 -0700, whisky-dave wrote: On Wednesday, 13 September 2017 21:55:22 UTC+1, Bob Eager wrote: On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 20:19:40 +0100, tim... wrote: I know it doesn't help much with the original fitting, but I have fitted these, which makes subsequent work easier. https://goo.gl/pH7mu7 I used these with my last light fighting. https://www.rapidonline.com/elkay-13...uded-terminal- block-3-way-plug-21-1155 https://www.rapidonline.com/elkay-13...uded-terminal- block-3-way-socket-21-1185 Yes, but they don't by themselves take the weight of a ceiling fitting. For what I was doing they didn't need to as my light fitting was teh cieling fitting and already had a termnial block inside. (and they are DISCONTINUED) By rapid which was an extra advantage for me as I had 3 'sets' at work. But I would have thought there might be other suppliers. As it happens, I've used some of those for concealed strip lighting in an enormous wall unit. |
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In message , tim...
writes And boy are these things a bugger to fit - standing on a chair with your arms at full stretch :-( One of the most useful tools in my armoury is a small step ladder. Only two steps plus platform and handrail, but perfect for all those just out of reach jobs like light bulbs and fittings, curtain rails and just reaching up. I use it almost daily, and because it is light, I can grab and carry it with one hand, where I probably wouldn't bother with a larger ladder. About the size of an ironing board when closed, and kept with the ironing board. Indispensable. Seriously. -- Graeme |
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On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 22:21:57 +0100, Graeme wrote:
In message , tim... writes And boy are these things a bugger to fit - standing on a chair with your arms at full stretch :-( One of the most useful tools in my armoury is a small step ladder. Only two steps plus platform and handrail, but perfect for all those just out of reach jobs like light bulbs and fittings, curtain rails and just reaching up. I use it almost daily, and because it is light, I can grab and carry it with one hand, where I probably wouldn't bother with a larger ladder. About the size of an ironing board when closed, and kept with the ironing board. Indispensable. Seriously. Yes. We keep a similar thing in the utility room. In the workshop I have a library stool, for those high shelves! -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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writes All true, but I have discovered that a "jump-up", aka "work platform" is even more useful. I do have a platform which is useful for painting ceilings and stuff, but, not being a fan of ladders in general, I really like the small step ladder with raised handrail. I suppose it gives me a feeling of security. Yes, I know I'm only a couple of feet off floor level, and no, I don't lean against the rail as such, but I just know the rail is there. Daft, I know. -- Graeme |
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On 13/09/2017 22:38, Graeme wrote:
I do have a platform which is useful for painting ceilings and stuff, but, not being a fan of ladders in general, I really like the small step ladder with raised handrail.Â* I suppose it gives me a feeling of security.Â* Yes, I know I'm only a couple of feet off floor level, and no, I don't lean against the rail as such, but I just know the rail is there.Â* Daft, I know. Same here, I think it's a case of the handrail providing a nearby fixed point of reference rather than actually needing to lean on it. -- Mike Clarke |
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On 13/09/2017 22:28, Huge wrote:
All true, but I have discovered that a "jump-up", aka "work platform" is even more useful. Unless you have high ceilings. I have a couple of these and they are too short for comfortable ceiling work (by around 150mm) -- mailto: news {at} admac {dot] myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 21:28:33 +0000, Huge wrote:
On 2017-09-13, Graeme wrote: In message , tim... writes And boy are these things a bugger to fit - standing on a chair with your arms at full stretch :-( One of the most useful tools in my armoury is a small step ladder. Only two steps plus platform and handrail, but perfect for all those just out of reach jobs like light bulbs and fittings, curtain rails and just reaching up. I use it almost daily, and because it is light, I can grab and carry it with one hand, where I probably wouldn't bother with a larger ladder. About the size of an ironing board when closed, and kept with the ironing board. Indispensable. Seriously. All true, but I have discovered that a "jump-up", aka "work platform" is even more useful. Bought one on a whim recently from Screwfix; http://www.screwfix.com/p/work-platf...um-900mm/6409p It wasn't bloody £35, either. They must have been on offer, or something. I have no idea how I ever managed without one. That's the 900mm one. The 600mm one is 25 quid. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On 13 Sep 2017 21:28:33 GMT, Huge wrote:
All true, but I have discovered that a "jump-up", aka "work platform" is even more useful. Bought one on a whim recently from Screwfix; http://www.screwfix.com/p/work-platf...um-900mm/6409p It wasn't bloody £35, either. They must have been on offer, or something. I have no idea how I ever managed without one. Mine were free when I took early retirement by walking out and the ******s I had been tuped to did not know we had a lock up store in another location. I'm glad I got two as the missus has invariably commandeered one as a plant stand in her green house when she has filled all the shelves,occasionally things get fractious when I find she has used both. I've found having two supporting a staging board is useful when painting a ceiling as you can reach quite a large area before having to move them. G.Harman |
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On 13/09/2017 22:28, Huge wrote:
All true, but I have discovered that a "jump-up", aka "work platform" is even more useful. Bought one on a whim recently from Screwfix; http://www.screwfix.com/p/work-platf...um-900mm/6409p It wasn't bloody £35, either. They must have been on offer, or something. I have no idea how I ever managed without one. They do a 600mm version for 24.99 |
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You need a taller chair.
Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! "tim..." wrote in message news Lamp batten with switch £1.50 Lamp batten without switch £2.50 Eh!? and to make things even worse: Lamp batten (w/o switch) plus flex and ceiling rose £2.50 I went to Wickes (didn't save anything 1.59 - I could have bought the B&Q switched version and just left the switch permanently on!) And boy are these things a bugger to fit - standing on a chair with your arms at full stretch :-( tim |
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message news You need a taller chair. but then it wouldn't fit under the table when I sat on it :-( (I did look around the room to see if there was anything I could place on the chair to raise me up a little bit, but I decided that was likely to be a short trip to ending up in a pile on the floor) tim |
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On 14/09/2017 13:38, tim... wrote:
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message news You need a taller chair. but then it wouldn't fit under the table when I sat on it :-( So stand on the table instead :-( -- Mike Clarke |
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"Mike Clarke" wrote in message news On 14/09/2017 13:38, tim... wrote: "Brian Gaff" wrote in message news You need a taller chair. but then it wouldn't fit under the table when I sat on it :-( So stand on the table instead :-( Yeah, thats what I did when I needed to do that to a pendant light. |
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On 14/09/2017 13:38, tim... wrote:
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message news You need a taller chair. but then it wouldn't fit under the table when I sat on it :-( It depends on the chair, here is one I made earlier: http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Library_chair (although if standing on the very top I tend to feel more secure when there is a substantial bookcase in front to steady against, just in case!) (I did look around the room to see if there was anything I could place on the chair to raise me up a little bit, but I decided that was likely to be a short trip to ending up in a pile on the floor) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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You know it is funny as many many years ago, Tandy sold a 5 amp variable
voltage power supply, both in kit form and ready built. the kit cost five pounds more than the built one. This is just one way that hobby electronics was killed! Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! "tim..." wrote in message news Lamp batten with switch £1.50 Lamp batten without switch £2.50 Eh!? and to make things even worse: Lamp batten (w/o switch) plus flex and ceiling rose £2.50 I went to Wickes (didn't save anything 1.59 - I could have bought the B&Q switched version and just left the switch permanently on!) And boy are these things a bugger to fit - standing on a chair with your arms at full stretch :-( tim |
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On 14/09/2017 08:31, Brian Gaff wrote:
You know it is funny as many many years ago, Tandy sold a 5 amp variable voltage power supply, both in kit form and ready built. the kit cost five pounds more than the built one. This is just one way that hobby electronics was killed! It was almost always the case that building something electronics from scratch wasn't that cost effective compared to buying the finished item unless you worked in the industry and components could be "borrowed" from the company stock -- mailto: news {at} admac {dot] myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On 14/09/17 09:25, alan_m wrote:
On 14/09/2017 08:31, Brian Gaff wrote: You know it is funny as many many years ago, Tandy sold a 5 amp variable voltage power supply, both in kit form and ready built. the kit cost five pounds more than the built one. This is just one way that hobby electronics was killed! It was almost always the case that building something electronics from scratch wasn't that cost effective compared to buying the finished item unless you worked in the industry and components could be "borrowed" from the company stock johnny cash - one piece at a time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWHniL8MyMM -- Adrian C |
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On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 20:19:40 +0100
"tim..." wrote: Lamp batten with switch £1.50 Lamp batten without switch £2.50 Eh!? and to make things even worse: Lamp batten (w/o switch) plus flex and ceiling rose £2.50 ITYM "pendant lamp holder" - a batten fixture screws to e.g. the back of a cupboard. I went to Wickes (didn't save anything 1.59 - I could have bought the B&Q switched version and just left the switch permanently on!) And boy are these things a bugger to fit - standing on a chair with your arms at full stretch :-( http://www.wickes.co.uk/Youngman-5-T...adder/p/170002 |
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