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Hi guys, I bought one of those small compressors recently. Specs are 9CFM/50Litre/116psi. Uses a single phase motor that runs off a standard 13A wall socket. Very useful to have compressed air for all sorts of purposes and certainly makes life easier when inflating tractor tyres and such like. The only problem is it's *very* noisy. 97dB it says on the side and I can well believe it. Worst thing is it cuts off at 116psi and goes totally silent until the pressure drops to 110 whereupon it immediately restarts. Given that this interval can be quite long, especially when it's not actually providing any air, that sudden burst into life again is enough to make anyone **** themselves. Given that it's only about the size of wheelbarrow (bit narrower in fact) I'd like to knock up an acoustic cover for it to deaden the racket it makes. Any suggestions as to suitable sound-deadening materials would be most welcome! ta. |
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On 12-Aug-17 1:30 AM, Chris wrote:
Hi guys, I bought one of those small compressors recently. Specs are 9CFM/50Litre/116psi. Uses a single phase motor that runs off a standard 13A wall socket. Very useful to have compressed air for all sorts of purposes and certainly makes life easier when inflating tractor tyres and such like. The only problem is it's *very* noisy. 97dB it says on the side and I can well believe it. Worst thing is it cuts off at 116psi and goes totally silent until the pressure drops to 110 whereupon it immediately restarts. Given that this interval can be quite long, especially when it's not actually providing any air, that sudden burst into life again is enough to make anyone **** themselves. That is why I sold my reciprocating compressor and bought a Hydrovane. However, they are mostly three phase and not cheap. Given that it's only about the size of wheelbarrow (bit narrower in fact) I'd like to knock up an acoustic cover for it to deaden the racket it makes. Any suggestions as to suitable sound-deadening materials would be most welcome! You need lots of mass. If practical, build it a brick or concrete enclosure, preferably well away from anything else, and run fixed air lines to the places you need the air. -- -- Colin Bignell |
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I'd like to knock up an acoustic cover for it to deaden the racket it makes. Any suggestions as to suitable sound-deadening materials would be most welcome! The stuff made to quieten boat engines works well. I bought big offcuts from a boat jumble many years ago and have used them for loads of things. It's a layer of something heavy (plastic, impregnated fibreglass sheet or lead sheet) on a layer of foam. Expensive new, fairly cheap for offcuts. Basically, make a lined plywood box with a baffle around the air intake/outlet. If the machine needs cooling make it in the form of a chimney. A PC in a ventilated box I made to silence for studio use ran cooler than in free air. It was very heavy, though. There are cheaper versions. Look for marine soundproofing. -- Bill |
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On 12/08/17 01:30, Chris wrote:
Hi guys, I bought one of those small compressors recently. Specs are 9CFM/50Litre/116psi. Uses a single phase motor that runs off a standard 13A wall socket. Very useful to have compressed air for all sorts of purposes and certainly makes life easier when inflating tractor tyres and such like. The only problem is it's *very* noisy. 97dB it says on the side and I can well believe it. Worst thing is it cuts off at 116psi and goes totally silent until the pressure drops to 110 whereupon it immediately restarts. Given that this interval can be quite long, especially when it's not actually providing any air, that sudden burst into life again is enough to make anyone **** themselves. Given that it's only about the size of wheelbarrow (bit narrower in fact) I'd like to knock up an acoustic cover for it to deaden the racket it makes. Any suggestions as to suitable sound-deadening materials would be most welcome! ta. Decoupling it from the ground may also help limit the sound transmission. Nick |
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In one place which used to be near residential properties they actually
buried it in a waterproof hole and put a big slab of concrete on the top! Yes they obviously had some cooling on it. Never saw it up close. I rather winder why we seem unable to make quiet equipment. Even lawn mowers vary from barely audible to soundling like a wrecking machine. Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! "Nick Odell" wrote in message news On 12/08/17 01:30, Chris wrote: Hi guys, I bought one of those small compressors recently. Specs are 9CFM/50Litre/116psi. Uses a single phase motor that runs off a standard 13A wall socket. Very useful to have compressed air for all sorts of purposes and certainly makes life easier when inflating tractor tyres and such like. The only problem is it's *very* noisy. 97dB it says on the side and I can well believe it. Worst thing is it cuts off at 116psi and goes totally silent until the pressure drops to 110 whereupon it immediately restarts. Given that this interval can be quite long, especially when it's not actually providing any air, that sudden burst into life again is enough to make anyone **** themselves. Given that it's only about the size of wheelbarrow (bit narrower in fact) I'd like to knock up an acoustic cover for it to deaden the racket it makes. Any suggestions as to suitable sound-deadening materials would be most welcome! ta. Decoupling it from the ground may also help limit the sound transmission. Nick |
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On 12-Aug-17 11:55 AM, Brian Gaff wrote:
In one place which used to be near residential properties they actually buried it in a waterproof hole and put a big slab of concrete on the top! Yes they obviously had some cooling on it. Never saw it up close. I rather winder why we seem unable to make quiet equipment. Even lawn mowers vary from barely audible to soundling like a wrecking machine. We can make quiet equipment, but usually not for the same price. You can buy a small but noisy reciprocating air compressor for under £100. An equivalent Hydrovane compressor, with a 62db noise rating, costs the best part of two grand. -- -- Colin Bignell |
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On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 16:58:29 +0100, Nightjar
wrote: On 12-Aug-17 11:55 AM, Brian Gaff wrote: In one place which used to be near residential properties they actually buried it in a waterproof hole and put a big slab of concrete on the top! Yes they obviously had some cooling on it. Never saw it up close. I rather winder why we seem unable to make quiet equipment. Even lawn mowers vary from barely audible to soundling like a wrecking machine. We can make quiet equipment, but usually not for the same price. You can buy a small but noisy reciprocating air compressor for under £100. An equivalent Hydrovane compressor, with a 62db noise rating, costs the best part of two grand. I'd have to wear ear defenders to be near that! ;-) I've got one of these: http://www.axminster.co.uk/bambi-bb2...pressor-340648 (40db) and (depending on your needs etc) saved all the time, effort, cost and inflexibility of arranging some sort of noise management to go around a conventional jobby. You can stand by it when it's running and whilst you can hear it is on, you can still easily talk over it. I also have a twin cylinder 50l compressor that I've not bothered to run since I got the Bambi. The Bambi is one of those (few) things that I would go straight out and replace if I ever had to. ;-) Cheers, T i m |
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On 12-Aug-17 6:22 PM, T i m wrote:
On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 16:58:29 +0100, Nightjar wrote: On 12-Aug-17 11:55 AM, Brian Gaff wrote: In one place which used to be near residential properties they actually buried it in a waterproof hole and put a big slab of concrete on the top! Yes they obviously had some cooling on it. Never saw it up close. I rather winder why we seem unable to make quiet equipment. Even lawn mowers vary from barely audible to soundling like a wrecking machine. We can make quiet equipment, but usually not for the same price. You can buy a small but noisy reciprocating air compressor for under £100. An equivalent Hydrovane compressor, with a 62db noise rating, costs the best part of two grand. I'd have to wear ear defenders to be near that! ;-) 60db is conversation in a quiet room. I used a couple of Hydrovanes in my factories and they were not in the least intrusive. I've got one of these: http://www.axminster.co.uk/bambi-bb2...pressor-340648 (40db) and (depending on your needs etc) saved all the time, effort, cost and inflexibility of arranging some sort of noise management to go around a conventional jobby. That isn't comparing like for like though. 1 cfm at 8 bar at a 50% duty cycle, as compared to 4.2 cfm at 10 bar and continuous rated. http://www.accltd.com/products.asp?recnumber=2257 You can stand by it when it's running and whilst you can hear it is on, you can still easily talk over it. I also have a twin cylinder 50l compressor that I've not bothered to run since I got the Bambi. The Bambi is one of those (few) things that I would go straight out and replace if I ever had to. ;-) -- -- Colin Bignell |
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On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 19:50:25 +0100, Nightjar
wrote: On 12-Aug-17 6:22 PM, T i m wrote: On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 16:58:29 +0100, Nightjar wrote: On 12-Aug-17 11:55 AM, Brian Gaff wrote: In one place which used to be near residential properties they actually buried it in a waterproof hole and put a big slab of concrete on the top! Yes they obviously had some cooling on it. Never saw it up close. I rather winder why we seem unable to make quiet equipment. Even lawn mowers vary from barely audible to soundling like a wrecking machine. We can make quiet equipment, but usually not for the same price. You can buy a small but noisy reciprocating air compressor for under £100. An equivalent Hydrovane compressor, with a 62db noise rating, costs the best part of two grand. I'd have to wear ear defenders to be near that! ;-) 60db is conversation in a quiet room. Still not 40db though eh? ;-) I used a couple of Hydrovanes in my factories and they were not in the least intrusive. Hence the smiley on my first post. ;-) I've got one of these: http://www.axminster.co.uk/bambi-bb2...pressor-340648 (40db) and (depending on your needs etc) saved all the time, effort, cost and inflexibility of arranging some sort of noise management to go around a conventional jobby. That isn't comparing like for like though. 1 cfm at 8 bar at a 50% duty cycle, as compared to 4.2 cfm at 10 bar and continuous rated. http://www.accltd.com/products.asp?recnumber=2257 Nice, as you say, 'at a price' ... and hence my '(depending on your needs etc)' bit. For mine the capacity is adequate for most things for most of the time (especially considering what I paid for mine (25 quid)). ;-) Cheers, T i m |
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On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 18:22:02 +0100, T i m wrote:
(40db) and (depending on your needs etc) saved all the time, effort, cost and inflexibility of arranging some sort of noise management to go around a conventional jobby. You can stand by it when it's running and whilst you can hear it is on, you can still easily talk over it. Maybe that's *too* quiet. The person you're speaking with will hear you break wind if that happens with only 40dB of background noise. -- This message may be freely reproduced without limit or charge only via the Usenet protocol. Reproduction in whole or part through other protocols, whether for profit or not, is conditional upon a charge of GBP10.00 per reproduction. Publication in this manner via non-Usenet protocols constitutes acceptance of this condition. |
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On 12/08/2017 01:30, Chris wrote:
Hi guys, I bought one of those small compressors recently. Specs are 9CFM/50Litre/116psi. Uses a single phase motor that runs off a standard 13A wall socket. Very useful to have compressed air for all sorts of purposes and certainly makes life easier when inflating tractor tyres and such like. The only problem is it's *very* noisy. 97dB it says on the side and I can well believe it. Worst thing is it cuts off at 116psi and goes totally silent until the pressure drops to 110 whereupon it immediately restarts. Given that this interval can be quite long, especially when it's not actually providing any air, that sudden burst into life again is enough to make anyone **** themselves. Given that it's only about the size of wheelbarrow (bit narrower in fact) I'd like to knock up an acoustic cover for it to deaden the racket it makes. Any suggestions as to suitable sound-deadening materials would be most welcome! ta. I've used some stuff that's basically a sheet of lead on rubber with adhesive on one side. Intended for automotive use. Effective. Bill |
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On 12-Aug-17 8:46 PM, T i m wrote:
On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 19:50:25 +0100, Nightjar wrote: .... That isn't comparing like for like though. 1 cfm at 8 bar at a 50% duty cycle, as compared to 4.2 cfm at 10 bar and continuous rated. http://www.accltd.com/products.asp?recnumber=2257 Nice, as you say, 'at a price' ... and hence my '(depending on your needs etc)' bit. For mine the capacity is adequate for most things for most of the time (especially considering what I paid for mine (25 quid)). ;-) The OP was speaking of inflating tractor tyres. I know which I would prefer to have for that job. :-) -- -- Colin Bignell |
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