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Explain why Danielle Corns got 10 months if there wasn't some
political
pressure from the PM?

No question that was a politically-directed sentence outrageously
harsh
for someone of that age with no previous offences.

Given the riot was political, the sentences were then also based on
politics. The Lib-Dems have a lot to answer for. Ironically her
actions weren't based on politics, where the sentencing was 10
seconds
of her stupidity. She even dropped the trainers.

Rodders like to think the Sentencing Council doesn't have a
statutory
requirement to consult with Parliament.

The Sentencing Council wasnt involved at all in the ****ing over of
those arseholes.

So where did the magistrates get their instructions from?

From this man?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/...tes-sentencing


You really think the UK judiciary is independent?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/...-system-emails




Your experiences down under are very different. When were you last in
the UK?

on this planet? would be more appropriate.

Well, wherever he is he's certainly blinkered to the existence of
published email instructions for magistrates.

Didnt come from the PM as you claimed, you pathetic excuse
for a bull**** artist.

Are you suggesting the civil servant in question acted without authority?

I am saying you lied thru your ****ing teeth when you claimed that
the PM ordered the magistrates to **** over arseholes like that one.

Are you suggesting the civil servant in question acted without authority?

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On 09/08/2017 03:55, Rod Speed wrote:


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On 08/08/2017 23:38, Rod Speed wrote:


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news On 08/08/2017 06:33, Richard wrote:
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On 07/08/2017 22:39, Rod Speed wrote:


"Fredxxx" wrote in message
news On 06/08/2017 22:52, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 06 Aug 2017 19:28:02 +0100, Fredxxx wrote:


Explain why Danielle Corns got 10 months if there wasn't some
political
pressure from the PM?

No question that was a politically-directed sentence outrageously
harsh
for someone of that age with no previous offences.

Given the riot was political, the sentences were then also based
on
politics. The Lib-Dems have a lot to answer for. Ironically her
actions weren't based on politics, where the sentencing was 10
seconds
of her stupidity. She even dropped the trainers.

Rodders like to think the Sentencing Council doesn't have a
statutory
requirement to consult with Parliament.

The Sentencing Council wasnt involved at all in the ****ing over
of
those arseholes.

So where did the magistrates get their instructions from?

From this man?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/...tes-sentencing


You really think the UK judiciary is independent?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/...-system-emails




Your experiences down under are very different. When were you last
in
the UK?

on this planet? would be more appropriate.

Well, wherever he is he's certainly blinkered to the existence of
published email instructions for magistrates.

Didnt come from the PM as you claimed, you pathetic excuse
for a bull**** artist.

Are you suggesting the civil servant in question acted without
authority?

I am saying you lied thru your ****ing teeth when you claimed that
the PM ordered the magistrates to **** over arseholes like that one.

Are you suggesting the civil servant in question acted without authority?

Nope, that he was doing his ****ing job. Thats what he is there for.

On 12/08/2017 01:15, Rod Speed wrote:


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On 09/08/2017 03:55, Rod Speed wrote:


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news On 08/08/2017 23:38, Rod Speed wrote:


"Fredxxx" wrote in message
news On 08/08/2017 06:33, Richard wrote:
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On 07/08/2017 22:39, Rod Speed wrote:


"Fredxxx" wrote in message
news On 06/08/2017 22:52, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 06 Aug 2017 19:28:02 +0100, Fredxxx wrote:


Explain why Danielle Corns got 10 months if there wasn't some
political
pressure from the PM?

No question that was a politically-directed sentence
outrageously
harsh
for someone of that age with no previous offences.

Given the riot was political, the sentences were then also
based on
politics. The Lib-Dems have a lot to answer for. Ironically her
actions weren't based on politics, where the sentencing was 10
seconds
of her stupidity. She even dropped the trainers.

Rodders like to think the Sentencing Council doesn't have a
statutory
requirement to consult with Parliament.

The Sentencing Council wasnt involved at all in the ****ing
over of
those arseholes.

So where did the magistrates get their instructions from?

From this man?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/...tes-sentencing



You really think the UK judiciary is independent?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/...-system-emails





Your experiences down under are very different. When were you
last in
the UK?

on this planet? would be more appropriate.

Well, wherever he is he's certainly blinkered to the existence of
published email instructions for magistrates.

Didnt come from the PM as you claimed, you pathetic excuse
for a bull**** artist.

Are you suggesting the civil servant in question acted without
authority?

I am saying you lied thru your ****ing teeth when you claimed that
the PM ordered the magistrates to **** over arseholes like that one.

Are you suggesting the civil servant in question acted without authority?

Nope, that he was doing his ****ing job. Thats what he is there for.

Oh good, we have got that far. And who does the civil servant take
instruction from?

"Fredxxx" wrote in message
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On 12/08/2017 01:15, Rod Speed wrote:


"Fredxxx" wrote in message
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On 09/08/2017 03:55, Rod Speed wrote:


"Fredxxx" wrote in message
news On 08/08/2017 23:38, Rod Speed wrote:


"Fredxxx" wrote in message
news On 08/08/2017 06:33, Richard wrote:
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On 07/08/2017 22:39, Rod Speed wrote:


"Fredxxx" wrote in message
news On 06/08/2017 22:52, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 06 Aug 2017 19:28:02 +0100, Fredxxx wrote:


Explain why Danielle Corns got 10 months if there wasn't some
political
pressure from the PM?

No question that was a politically-directed sentence
outrageously
harsh
for someone of that age with no previous offences.

Given the riot was political, the sentences were then also
based on
politics. The Lib-Dems have a lot to answer for. Ironically her
actions weren't based on politics, where the sentencing was 10
seconds
of her stupidity. She even dropped the trainers.

Rodders like to think the Sentencing Council doesn't have a
statutory
requirement to consult with Parliament.

The Sentencing Council wasnt involved at all in the ****ing
over of
those arseholes.

So where did the magistrates get their instructions from?

From this man?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/...tes-sentencing



You really think the UK judiciary is independent?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/...-system-emails





Your experiences down under are very different. When were you
last in
the UK?

on this planet? would be more appropriate.

Well, wherever he is he's certainly blinkered to the existence of
published email instructions for magistrates.

Didnt come from the PM as you claimed, you pathetic excuse
for a bull**** artist.

Are you suggesting the civil servant in question acted without
authority?

I am saying you lied thru your ****ing teeth when you claimed that
the PM ordered the magistrates to **** over arseholes like that one.

Are you suggesting the civil servant in question acted without
authority?

Nope, that he was doing his ****ing job. Thats what he is there for.

Oh good, we have got that far. And who does the civil servant take
instruction from?

Not from the PM when he's civil servant running the judicial system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_powers

On 12/08/2017 04:54, Rod Speed wrote:


"Fredxxx" wrote in message
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On 12/08/2017 01:15, Rod Speed wrote:


"Fredxxx" wrote in message
news On 09/08/2017 03:55, Rod Speed wrote:


"Fredxxx" wrote in message
news On 08/08/2017 23:38, Rod Speed wrote:


"Fredxxx" wrote in message
news On 08/08/2017 06:33, Richard wrote:
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On 07/08/2017 22:39, Rod Speed wrote:


"Fredxxx" wrote in message
news On 06/08/2017 22:52, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 06 Aug 2017 19:28:02 +0100, Fredxxx wrote:


Explain why Danielle Corns got 10 months if there wasn't some
political
pressure from the PM?

No question that was a politically-directed sentence
outrageously
harsh
for someone of that age with no previous offences.

Given the riot was political, the sentences were then also
based on
politics. The Lib-Dems have a lot to answer for. Ironically her
actions weren't based on politics, where the sentencing was 10
seconds
of her stupidity. She even dropped the trainers.

Rodders like to think the Sentencing Council doesn't have a
statutory
requirement to consult with Parliament.

The Sentencing Council wasnt involved at all in the ****ing
over of
those arseholes.

So where did the magistrates get their instructions from?

From this man?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/...tes-sentencing




You really think the UK judiciary is independent?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/...-system-emails






Your experiences down under are very different. When were you
last in
the UK?

on this planet? would be more appropriate.

Well, wherever he is he's certainly blinkered to the existence of
published email instructions for magistrates.

Didnt come from the PM as you claimed, you pathetic excuse
for a bull**** artist.

Are you suggesting the civil servant in question acted without
authority?

I am saying you lied thru your ****ing teeth when you claimed that
the PM ordered the magistrates to **** over arseholes like that one.

Are you suggesting the civil servant in question acted without
authority?

Nope, that he was doing his ****ing job. Thats what he is there for.

Oh good, we have got that far. And who does the civil servant take
instruction from?

Not from the PM when he's civil servant running the judicial system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_powers


In which case you would have read there is a Ministry of Justice and the
Lord Chancellor currently serves in the position of Secretary of State
for Justice.

Next you'll be claiming the Principal Secretary of State for Justice is
not a Cabinet position.

Unlike other countries, the UK has blurred lines between the judiciary
and politicians.

You have already denied the Sentencing Council sets tariffs and that is
is obliged to consult with Parliament. What are you next going to deny?