While we're on the subject, I need a surface mount thermostatic mixer
shower for my new showeroom.

Pipes through wall - no - they'd end up in a bedroom!

I'm after the original (70s-80s) type where they'd surface mount and
you'd take chromed surface pipe into them.

Can't seem to locate any. Been through Aqualiser's entire catalogue and
they seem to assumed the pipes go into the wall.

Anyone seen what I'm talking about?

On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 22:57:41 +0100, Tim Watts wrote:

While we're on the subject, I need a surface mount thermostatic mixer
shower for my new showeroom.

Pipes through wall - no - they'd end up in a bedroom!

I'm after the original (70s-80s) type where they'd surface mount and
you'd take chromed surface pipe into them.

Can't seem to locate any. Been through Aqualiser's entire catalogue and
they seem to assumed the pipes go into the wall.

Anyone seen what I'm talking about?

I was interested in this because I will soon have a similar problem.

This is merely an example, but it seems a good workaround:

https://goo.gl/qDxBhn



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On 30/07/17 23:36, Bob Eager wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 22:57:41 +0100, Tim Watts wrote:

While we're on the subject, I need a surface mount thermostatic mixer
shower for my new showeroom.

Pipes through wall - no - they'd end up in a bedroom!

I'm after the original (70s-80s) type where they'd surface mount and
you'd take chromed surface pipe into them.

Can't seem to locate any. Been through Aqualiser's entire catalogue and
they seem to assumed the pipes go into the wall.

Anyone seen what I'm talking about?

I was interested in this because I will soon have a similar problem.

This is merely an example, but it seems a good workaround:

https://goo.gl/qDxBhn




Sir, you are a genius!

Bookmarked - just what I needed.

In fact the pipes won't be much exposed - shower will be in the corner -
pipes just need to go down, right a few inches and through a stub wall
edge whereby they'll be under the basin.

Tim Watts wrote:
On 30/07/17 23:36, Bob Eager wrote:

https://goo.gl/qDxBhn

Sir, you are a genius!

Bookmarked - just what I needed.

The last set I bought were a damn sight less than £30! (More like a
fiver IIRC.)

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On Mon, 31 Jul 2017 20:46:10 +0100, Scott M wrote:

Tim Watts wrote:
On 30/07/17 23:36, Bob Eager wrote:

https://goo.gl/qDxBhn

Sir, you are a genius!

Bookmarked - just what I needed.

The last set I bought were a damn sight less than £30! (More like a
fiver IIRC.)

You snipped the bit where I said they were just an example.



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On 30/07/2017 22:57, Tim Watts wrote:
While we're on the subject, I need a surface mount thermostatic mixer
shower for my new showeroom.

Pipes through wall - no - they'd end up in a bedroom!

If the wall is thick enough, then they can be "in" rather than through.
I did a retrofit for a Aunt's bathroom like that once where I needed a
3" deep excavation in a 4" block wall. With a light touch on the SDS I
managed it without going right through to the landing on the other side
of the wall!

Have you tiled it already?

I'm after the original (70s-80s) type where they'd surface mount and
you'd take chromed surface pipe into them.

Can't seem to locate any. Been through Aqualiser's entire catalogue and
they seem to assumed the pipes go into the wall.

Anyone seen what I'm talking about?

One easy option would be a bar mixer, where you could mount surface
right angle 1/2" BSP female sockets on the wall to take the stubs from
the mixer:

https://www.toolstation.com/shop/p78384?table=no

(the bar mixers usually come with BSP nipples with one 3/4" male end for
fitting into the nuts on the back of the valve body, and then a 1/2"
male end for going into the wall sockets. The smaller end if typically
offset from the centre of the 3/4" end, so you can do some fine
adjustment of the height and spacing by tweaking the rotation (they are
normally taper fittings and so can be sealed in a number of rotational
positions with enough PTFE)

See this vid from the 2 min point. (its for a bath mixer - but the
fitting is the same as for a shower bar mixer)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuroyXJ97VY



(the only bit that will need a bit of thought is whether you can use the
chromed cowl bits for hiding the joint)

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On 31/07/17 02:23, John Rumm wrote:
On 30/07/2017 22:57, Tim Watts wrote:
While we're on the subject, I need a surface mount thermostatic mixer
shower for my new showeroom.

Pipes through wall - no - they'd end up in a bedroom!

If the wall is thick enough, then they can be "in" rather than through.
I did a retrofit for a Aunt's bathroom like that once where I needed a
3" deep excavation in a 4" block wall. With a light touch on the SDS I
managed it without going right through to the landing on the other side
of the wall!

Have you tiled it already?

No - but it's rock hard brick and I am not a fan of buried pipes.


I'm after the original (70s-80s) type where they'd surface mount and
you'd take chromed surface pipe into them.

Can't seem to locate any. Been through Aqualiser's entire catalogue and
they seem to assumed the pipes go into the wall.

Anyone seen what I'm talking about?

One easy option would be a bar mixer, where you could mount surface
right angle 1/2" BSP female sockets on the wall to take the stubs from
the mixer:

https://www.toolstation.com/shop/p78384?table=no

Ah - yes. Similar solution to the Triton link.

(the bar mixers usually come with BSP nipples with one 3/4" male end for
fitting into the nuts on the back of the valve body, and then a 1/2"
male end for going into the wall sockets. The smaller end if typically
offset from the centre of the 3/4" end, so you can do some fine
adjustment of the height and spacing by tweaking the rotation (they are
normally taper fittings and so can be sealed in a number of rotational
positions with enough PTFE)

I like bar mixers so this seems to be the way forward (with the Triton
adaptors for neatness).

See this vid from the 2 min point. (its for a bath mixer - but the
fitting is the same as for a shower bar mixer)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuroyXJ97VY



(the only bit that will need a bit of thought is whether you can use the
chromed cowl bits for hiding the joint)


Thanks

On 31/07/2017 12:04, Tim Watts wrote:
On 31/07/17 02:23, John Rumm wrote:
On 30/07/2017 22:57, Tim Watts wrote:
While we're on the subject, I need a surface mount thermostatic mixer
shower for my new showeroom.

Pipes through wall - no - they'd end up in a bedroom!

If the wall is thick enough, then they can be "in" rather than
through. I did a retrofit for a Aunt's bathroom like that once where I
needed a 3" deep excavation in a 4" block wall. With a light touch on
the SDS I managed it without going right through to the landing on the
other side of the wall!

Have you tiled it already?

No - but it's rock hard brick and I am not a fan of buried pipes.

While also not a fan of buried pipes, there are times where they are the
least bad option IMHO.

A wall chaser would sort the bricks (or if you can collect the dust,
dare I say an angle grinder!)

Last time I buried pipes for a shower, I buried PEX barrier pipe,
included some thin insulation round them to allow for some expansion and
contraction room, and then plastered them in before tiling. That way
there were no joints in the wall except where they joined the shower valve.



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On 30/07/2017 22:57, Tim Watts wrote:
While we're on the subject, I need a surface mount thermostatic mixer
shower for my new showeroom.

Pipes through wall - no - they'd end up in a bedroom!

I'm after the original (70s-80s) type where they'd surface mount and
you'd take chromed surface pipe into them.

Can't seem to locate any. Been through Aqualiser's entire catalogue and
they seem to assumed the pipes go into the wall.

Anyone seen what I'm talking about?

I bought one about a year ago and most of those I considered had inlet
pipe connectors that could be angles back through the wall or straight
up/down for surface plumbing.

Mike

On 31/07/17 11:00, Tim+ wrote:
https://www.victorianplumbing.co.uk/...sed-thermostat
ic-shower-valve-chrome?campaign=googlebase&pagetype=shopping&gclid
=Cj0KCQjwqvvLBRDIARIsAMYuvBEfRjFoliwuENXRACG2e2UfK X2Jm0rtrBZAa44nL
qrhWaTN6MwZmXUaAg5SEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds


Thanks! That was exactly the thing I was looking for in the first place
- will put it alongside the Triton bars for evaluation.