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On 24/07/2017 18:26, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/23/jeremy...-debt-6799943/ There will be some very disappointed young Labour voters :-) Not to hear a number of comments on 'phone-in shows. The student reps think the sun shines out of his ... |
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On 24/07/17 18:26, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/23/jeremy...-debt-6799943/ There will be some very disappointed young Labour voters :-) teach em never to trust a **** with a beard. -- Of what good are dead warriors? €¦ Warriors are those who desire battle more than peace. Those who seek battle despite peace. Those who thump their spears on the ground and talk of honor. Those who leap high the battle dance and dream of glory €¦ The good of dead warriors, Mother, is that they are dead. Sheri S Tepper: The Awakeners. |
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The Natural Philosopher submitted this idea :
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"Sam" wrote in message o.uk... On 24/07/2017 18:26, Harry Bloomfield wrote: http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/23/jeremy...-debt-6799943/ There will be some very disappointed young Labour voters :-) Not to hear a number of comments on 'phone-in shows. The student reps think the sun shines out of his ... it's the political dead period they will be no interviews for weeks tim |
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Harry Bloomfield wrote: http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/23/jeremy...-debt-6799943/ There will be some very disappointed young Labour voters :-) I take it then Tory voters are very happy virtually the entire Tory manifesto was dropped after their 'victory'? But of course why worry about what a government does when you can have a go at the opposition? You've obviously learnt this works from Trump. -- *Okay, who stopped the payment on my reality check? * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 24/07/2017 23:59, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Harry Bloomfield wrote: http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/23/jeremy...-debt-6799943/ There will be some very disappointed young Labour voters :-) I take it then Tory voters are very happy virtually the entire Tory manifesto was dropped after their 'victory'? At least the Torys were forced by the result to drop many manifesto pledges. Labour seem to be promising things, then dropping them as soon as the cost is questioned. SteveW |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Harry Bloomfield wrote: http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/23/jeremy...-debt-6799943/ There will be some very disappointed young Labour voters :-) I take it then Tory voters are very happy virtually the entire Tory manifesto was dropped after their 'victory'? But of course why worry about what a government does when you can have a go at the opposition? You've obviously learnt this works from Trump. Obviously May took the advice of some clueless ****wit. Heaven knows why, shirley some other person should have warned her that she was on a suicide course. Never mind, these clueless ****wits will get adequately compensated. That's what it's all about after all, money. Principles? You must be ****ing joking. Even *I* (anyone) could have produced a better manifesto. Come in Steptoe, lets take advantage of the situation. We'll talk ********, any ********, it's better than the Tories, and it surely was. We'll tell the kids that they need not pay any University fees, we'll wriggle out of it later. The complete process is corrupt. Pity the kids can't see it. |
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On Tuesday, 25 July 2017 00:30:59 UTC+1, bm wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Harry Bloomfield wrote: http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/23/jeremy...-debt-6799943/ There will be some very disappointed young Labour voters :-) I take it then Tory voters are very happy virtually the entire Tory manifesto was dropped after their 'victory'? But of course why worry about what a government does when you can have a go at the opposition? You've obviously learnt this works from Trump. Obviously May took the advice of some clueless ****wit. Heaven knows why, shirley some other person should have warned her that she was on a suicide course. Never mind, these clueless ****wits will get adequately compensated. That's what it's all about after all, money. Principles? You must be ****ing joking. Even *I* (anyone) could have produced a better manifesto. Come in Steptoe, lets take advantage of the situation. We'll talk ********, any ********, it's better than the Tories, and it surely was. We'll tell the kids that they need not pay any University fees, we'll wriggle out of it later. The complete process is corrupt. Pity the kids can't see it. I find it odd that people seem to just believe what they want to be true. NT |
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wrote in message ... On Tuesday, 25 July 2017 00:30:59 UTC+1, bm wrote: "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Harry Bloomfield wrote: http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/23/jeremy...-debt-6799943/ There will be some very disappointed young Labour voters :-) I take it then Tory voters are very happy virtually the entire Tory manifesto was dropped after their 'victory'? But of course why worry about what a government does when you can have a go at the opposition? You've obviously learnt this works from Trump. Obviously May took the advice of some clueless ****wit. Heaven knows why, shirley some other person should have warned her that she was on a suicide course. Never mind, these clueless ****wits will get adequately compensated. That's what it's all about after all, money. Principles? You must be ****ing joking. Even *I* (anyone) could have produced a better manifesto. Come in Steptoe, lets take advantage of the situation. We'll talk ********, any ********, it's better than the Tories, and it surely was. We'll tell the kids that they need not pay any University fees, we'll wriggle out of it later. The complete process is corrupt. Pity the kids can't see it. I find it odd that people seem to just believe what they want to be true. It's called progress, the secondary school morons are taught all about this ****, aren't they? LMFAO. What was WWI and WWII? Was that when they didn't have VR? |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
news On 24/07/17 18:26, Harry Bloomfield wrote: http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/23/jeremy...-debt-6799943/ There will be some very disappointed young Labour voters :-) teach em never to trust a **** with a beard. The ex didn't sport a Brazilian? |
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... On Tuesday, 25 July 2017 00:30:59 UTC+1, bm wrote: "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Harry Bloomfield wrote: http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/23/jeremy...-debt-6799943/ There will be some very disappointed young Labour voters :-) I take it then Tory voters are very happy virtually the entire Tory manifesto was dropped after their 'victory'? But of course why worry about what a government does when you can have a go at the opposition? You've obviously learnt this works from Trump. Obviously May took the advice of some clueless ****wit. Heaven knows why, shirley some other person should have warned her that she was on a suicide course. Never mind, these clueless ****wits will get adequately compensated. That's what it's all about after all, money. Principles? You must be ****ing joking. Even *I* (anyone) could have produced a better manifesto. Come in Steptoe, lets take advantage of the situation. We'll talk ********, any ********, it's better than the Tories, and it surely was. We'll tell the kids that they need not pay any University fees, we'll wriggle out of it later. The complete process is corrupt. Pity the kids can't see it. I find it odd that people seem to just believe what they want to be true. Big business in just that scenario. Think churches, mosques, synagogues, temples... |
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On 24/07/17 21:21, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
The Natural Philosopher submitted this idea : teach em never to trust a **** with a beard. lol Jesus? no evidence he was bearded -- "I guess a rattlesnake ain't risponsible fer bein' a rattlesnake, but ah puts mah heel on um jess the same if'n I catches him around mah chillun". |
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Well he did not promise. He as far as I recall, said that he could sort it
for new students. I mean that was what I thought I heard. He could also change the level of income needed to make people have to pay it back as well. but in this world, in the end, if you spend money, its got to come from somewhere. Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! "Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message news http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/23/jeremy...-debt-6799943/ There will be some very disappointed young Labour voters :-) |
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On 24/07/2017 21:21, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
The Natural Philosopher submitted this idea : teach em never to trust a **** with a beard. lol Jesus? Especially him. If there was a chappy called "Jesus" wandering about the middle east 2000 years ago he was talking ********. |
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Harry Bloomfield writes: http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/23/jeremy...-debt-6799943/ There will be some very disappointed young Labour voters :-) Last time a government anything like current Labour was in power was late 1970's. Those old enough to have direct memory of how that worked at the time, and what inflation well over 10% looks like, will be at least aged 60 now. Eventually you get to the point where enough voters haven't experienced it for the country to try it again - we're probably very close now. In the late 1970s, it was the unions who eventually threw Labour out, when Labour ran out of money to pay public sector workers, with inflation running at over 12%. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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writes Last time a government anything like current Labour was in power was late 1970's. Those old enough to have direct memory of how that worked at the time, and what inflation well over 10% looks like, will be at least aged 60 now. I remember 1979 very well. I left an employer who provided staff mortgages fixed at 3%, and found myself suddenly paying 15%. 1979 was the year base rate hit 17%. Amazing to think there are youngsters now who have only known a base rate of 0.5%, for the last 8 years. -- Graeme |
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On 24/07/2017 21:21, Harry Bloomfield wrote: The Natural Philosopher submitted this idea : teach em never to trust a **** with a beard. lol Jesus? Especially him. If there was a chappy called "Jesus" wandering about the middle east 2000 years ago he was talking ********. Maybe Corbyn in a previous life? |
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On 25/07/17 08:51, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article , Harry Bloomfield writes: http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/23/jeremy...-debt-6799943/ There will be some very disappointed young Labour voters :-) Last time a government anything like current Labour was in power was late 1970's. Those old enough to have direct memory of how that worked at the time, and what inflation well over 10% looks like, will be at least aged 60 now. late 40s - I can remember all of that... Eventually you get to the point where enough voters haven't experienced it for the country to try it again - we're probably very close now. In the late 1970s, it was the unions who eventually threw Labour out, when Labour ran out of money to pay public sector workers, with inflation running at over 12%. |
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On 25/07/2017 00:12, Steve Walker wrote:
On 24/07/2017 23:59, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Harry Bloomfield wrote: http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/23/jeremy...-debt-6799943/ There will be some very disappointed young Labour voters :-) I take it then Tory voters are very happy virtually the entire Tory manifesto was dropped after their 'victory'? At least the Torys were forced by the result to drop many manifesto pledges. Labour seem to be promising things, then dropping them as soon as the cost is questioned. I think you meant to say "as soon as a 10 year old goes over Dianne Abbott's calculations". |
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Steve Walker wrote: On 24/07/2017 23:59, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Harry Bloomfield wrote: http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/23/jeremy...-debt-6799943/ There will be some very disappointed young Labour voters :-) I take it then Tory voters are very happy virtually the entire Tory manifesto was dropped after their 'victory'? At least the Torys were forced by the result to drop many manifesto pledges. Labour seem to be promising things, then dropping them as soon as the cost is questioned. Ah - right. A government, with all the resources of the civil service behind them, can't actually produce a manifesto which is viable. But you expect the opposition to stick to theirs to the letter (as you interpret that letter) -- *Time is what keeps everything from happening at once. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Andrew Gabriel wrote: In article , Harry Bloomfield writes: http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/23/jeremy...-debt-6799943/ There will be some very disappointed young Labour voters :-) Last time a government anything like current Labour was in power was late 1970's. Those old enough to have direct memory of how that worked at the time, and what inflation well over 10% looks like, will be at least aged 60 now. Eventually you get to the point where enough voters haven't experienced it for the country to try it again - we're probably very close now. And oddly, on a pretty modest salary, managed to buy the house I'm living in now. With no help from parents or anyone. In the late 1970s, it was the unions who eventually threw Labour out, when Labour ran out of money to pay public sector workers, with inflation running at over 12%. Far better today, then. Buying a house impossible for many, Rents sky high. And lots and lots of jobs around with zero security or prospects. Just what the Tories wanted. -- *Errors have been made. Others will be blamed. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 25/07/2017 09:30, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
soup formulated on Tuesday : On 24/07/2017 21:21, Harry Bloomfield wrote: The Natural Philosopher submitted this idea : teach em never to trust a **** with a beard. lol Jesus? Especially him. If there was a chappy called "Jesus" wandering about the middle east 2000 years ago he was talking ********. Maybe Corbyn in a previous life? You could be on to something . Beard ----------------- check Talks ******** -------- check Thinks he's god --------Check. Yup definitely,of to do research on the Jesus-Corbyn connection. |
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"soup" wrote in message news On 25/07/2017 09:30, Harry Bloomfield wrote: soup formulated on Tuesday : On 24/07/2017 21:21, Harry Bloomfield wrote: The Natural Philosopher submitted this idea : teach em never to trust a **** with a beard. lol Jesus? Especially him. If there was a chappy called "Jesus" wandering about the middle east 2000 years ago he was talking ********. Maybe Corbyn in a previous life? You could be on to something . Beard ----------------- check Talks ******** -------- check Thinks he's god --------Check. Yup definitely,of to do research on the Jesus-Corbyn connection. I like it |
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On 25/07/2017 09:31, Tim Watts wrote:
On 25/07/17 08:51, Andrew Gabriel wrote: In article , Harry Bloomfield writes: http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/23/jeremy...-debt-6799943/ There will be some very disappointed young Labour voters :-) Last time a government anything like current Labour was in power was late 1970's. Those old enough to have direct memory of how that worked at the time, and what inflation well over 10% looks like, will be at least aged 60 now. late 40s - I can remember all of that... yup, same here. (observing even if not participating) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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soup has brought this to us :
You could be on to something . Beard ----------------- check Talks ******** -------- check Thinks he's god --------Check. Yup definitely,of to do research on the Jesus-Corbyn connection. Where there any reports of Corbyn doing a trick with bread and fish? |
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soup wrote:
On 25/07/2017 09:30, Harry Bloomfield wrote: soup formulated on Tuesday : On 24/07/2017 21:21, Harry Bloomfield wrote: The Natural Philosopher submitted this idea : teach em never to trust a **** with a beard. lol Jesus? Especially him. If there was a chappy called "Jesus" wandering about the middle east 2000 years ago he was talking ********. Maybe Corbyn in a previous life? You could be on to something . Beard ----------------- check Talks ******** -------- check Thinks he's god --------Check. Yup definitely,of to do research on the Jesus-Corbyn connection. Initials J.C. ----- check |
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On 25/07/2017 11:06, soup wrote:
On 25/07/2017 09:30, Harry Bloomfield wrote: soup formulated on Tuesday : On 24/07/2017 21:21, Harry Bloomfield wrote: The Natural Philosopher submitted this idea : teach em never to trust a **** with a beard. lol Jesus? Especially him. If there was a chappy called "Jesus" wandering about the middle east 2000 years ago he was talking ********. Maybe Corbyn in a previous life? You could be on to something . Beard ----------------- check Talks ******** -------- check Thinks he's god --------Check. You missed the "Everyone under 20 and/or with an IQ 70 thinks that he is God - check" Yup definitely,of to do research on the Jesus-Corbyn connection. |
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On 25/07/2017 10:52, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Andrew Gabriel wrote: In article , Harry Bloomfield writes: http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/23/jeremy...-debt-6799943/ There will be some very disappointed young Labour voters :-) Last time a government anything like current Labour was in power was late 1970's. Those old enough to have direct memory of how that worked at the time, and what inflation well over 10% looks like, will be at least aged 60 now. Eventually you get to the point where enough voters haven't experienced it for the country to try it again - we're probably very close now. And oddly, on a pretty modest salary, managed to buy the house I'm living in now. With no help from parents or anyone. In the late 1970s, it was the unions who eventually threw Labour out, when Labour ran out of money to pay public sector workers, with inflation running at over 12%. Far better today, then. Buying a house impossible for many, Rents sky high. Rents/house prices are still very affordable if you move away from London/south of England. And lots and lots of jobs around with zero security or prospects. From my experience, if you are skilled, work hard and are good at what you do then you are very rarely out of a job. |
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On 25/07/17 10:25, JoeJoe wrote:
On 25/07/2017 00:12, Steve Walker wrote: On 24/07/2017 23:59, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Harry Bloomfield wrote: http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/23/jeremy...-debt-6799943/ There will be some very disappointed young Labour voters :-) I take it then Tory voters are very happy virtually the entire Tory manifesto was dropped after their 'victory'? At least the Torys were forced by the result to drop many manifesto pledges. Labour seem to be promising things, then dropping them as soon as the cost is questioned. I think you meant to say "as soon as a 10 year old goes over Dianne Abbott's calculations". That would be a state educated 10 year old. In private school, that would be a 5 year old. -- "If you dont read the news paper, you are un-informed. If you read the news paper, you are mis-informed." Mark Twain |
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On 25/07/17 11:06, soup wrote:
On 25/07/2017 09:30, Harry Bloomfield wrote: soup formulated on Tuesday : On 24/07/2017 21:21, Harry Bloomfield wrote: The Natural Philosopher submitted this idea : teach em never to trust a **** with a beard. lol Jesus? Especially him. If there was a chappy called "Jesus" wandering about the middle east 2000 years ago he was talking ********. Maybe Corbyn in a previous life? You could be on to something . Beard ----------------- check Talks ******** -------- check Thinks he's god --------Check. Yup definitely,of to do research on the Jesus-Corbyn connection. THEY EVEN HAVE THE SAME INITIALS. I wish he would try walking on water from dover to calais though. -- "If you dont read the news paper, you are un-informed. If you read the news paper, you are mis-informed." Mark Twain |
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On 25/07/2017 12:58, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 25/07/17 11:06, soup wrote: On 25/07/2017 09:30, Harry Bloomfield wrote: soup formulated on Tuesday : On 24/07/2017 21:21, Harry Bloomfield wrote: The Natural Philosopher submitted this idea : teach em never to trust a **** with a beard. lol Jesus? Especially him. If there was a chappy called "Jesus" wandering about the middle east 2000 years ago he was talking ********. Maybe Corbyn in a previous life? You could be on to something . Beard ----------------- check Talks ******** -------- check Thinks he's god --------Check. Yup definitely,of to do research on the Jesus-Corbyn connection. THEY EVEN HAVE THE SAME INITIALS. I wish he would try walking on water from dover to calais though. Starting in the middle. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Steve Walker wrote: On 24/07/2017 23:59, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Harry Bloomfield wrote: http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/23/jeremy...-debt-6799943/ There will be some very disappointed young Labour voters :-) I take it then Tory voters are very happy virtually the entire Tory manifesto was dropped after their 'victory'? At least the Torys were forced by the result to drop many manifesto pledges. Labour seem to be promising things, then dropping them as soon as the cost is questioned. Ah - right. A government, with all the resources of the civil service behind them, can't actually produce a manifesto which is viable. but it (the Tory manifesto) was viable it was just not the political consensus. The policies aren't being dropped because there is no money to pay for them. They are being dropped because, without a natural majority, they lack the backing of Parliament tim |
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"soup" wrote in message news On 25/07/2017 09:30, Harry Bloomfield wrote: soup formulated on Tuesday : On 24/07/2017 21:21, Harry Bloomfield wrote: The Natural Philosopher submitted this idea : teach em never to trust a **** with a beard. lol Jesus? Especially him. If there was a chappy called "Jesus" wandering about the middle east 2000 years ago he was talking ********. Maybe Corbyn in a previous life? You could be on to something . Beard ----------------- check Talks ******** -------- check Thinks he's god --------Check. Yup definitely,of to do research on the Jesus-Corbyn connection. and you never see them in the same room together |
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On Monday, 24 July 2017 18:26:20 UTC+1, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/23/jeremy...-debt-6799943/ There will be some very disappointed young Labour voters :-) They (the metro) got it wrong that is not what he said. I saw what he did say via a friend from FB last night, he;d said he;d refund all 2017-2018 fee, and would lok at what could be done with present debts either by lowering teh intereest rate or increasing teh loan time i.e longer payback time. |
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On 25/07/2017 12:03, JoeJoe wrote:
And lots and lots of jobs around with zero security or prospects. Also what many seem to fail to grasp is that if you legislate away the ability to have "gig economy" type jobs, then the jobs don't suddenly become more secure contracts of employment, they just vanish altogether as the business models become non-viable. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On Tuesday, 25 July 2017 08:36:18 UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote:
Well he did not promise. He as far as I recall, said that he could sort it for new students. Yes you heard right for NEW students. That's 2017-2018 not those new since the other JC was nailed to a cross. I mean that was what I thought I heard. You were correct because some use vision to deceive others. He could also change the level of income needed to make people have to pay it back as well. but in this world, in the end, if you spend money, its got to come from somewhere. Lowering teh intrest rates on loans would only lower the profits of those lending 6.1% is quite high I'd have thought, it should be linked to bank lending rates, rather than how much profit a loan company wants to make. |
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On Tuesday, 25 July 2017 11:56:54 UTC+1, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
soup has brought this to us : You could be on to something . Beard ----------------- check Talks ******** -------- check Thinks he's god --------Check. Yup definitely,of to do research on the Jesus-Corbyn connection. Where there any reports of Corbyn doing a trick with bread and fish? Last time I tried a trick like that I got arrested for indecency ;-) of course there's those that have met Jesus some have seen paintings of him, others have seen photos of him and some have seen him in 3d HD surround sound. But does anyone really know what Jesus really looked like ? is it realy likely that someone with white skin and blue eyes be born in Bethlehem ? |
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