Its a cultural thing though , is it not? we have a tradition of the washing
machine being in the kitchen, and other countries tend to have utility
rooms for this sort of thing. Indeed we used to build houses with a scullery
for all sorts of things, including the water boiling copper and the tin
bath.
grin.


Brian

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"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Brian Gaff
wrote:

Its a cultural thing though , is it not? we have a tradition of the washing machine
being in the kitchen, and other countries tend to have utility rooms for this sort of
thing. Indeed we used to build houses with a scullery for all sorts of things,
including the water boiling copper and the tin bath.

And the mangle. Don't forget the mangle. Apart from the gas cooker, it
was the only kitchen appliance that we had when I was a child.

Show-off.




michael adams

....

Tim Streater was thinking very hard :
And the mangle. Don't forget the mangle. Apart from the gas cooker, it
was the only kitchen appliance that we had when I was a child.

Wasn't the mangle something which was normally used in a backyard?

My parents first washing machine, a single tub English Electric, had a
powered mangle on top.

In message , Harry Bloomfield
writes

My parents first washing machine, a single tub English Electric, had a
powered mangle on top.


So did ours - powered by my mum. That was a Goblin (the machine, not
mum).
--
Graeme

In message , Tim Streater
writes
In article , Graeme
wrote:

So did ours - powered by my mum. That was a Goblin (the machine, not
mum).

Ours was usually powered by me. And was used in the kitchen. IIRC, it
folded away under the kitchen table.

Yes, ours was a hellava palaver. The thing had to be pulled out to the
middle of the kitchen floor, then filled via a length of pipe which was
(partially) attached to a sink tap, with the other end in the upright
drum. Pipe removed, powder and clothes added, agitator agitated. No
heating of water. Clothes then transferred to sink for rinsing, then
back to the Goblin, to use the mangle which folded flat when not in use.

Water reused, process repeated, then came the exciting part - emptying
the drum. Pipe on the side of the machine, which was lowered to drain
into a washing up bowl on the floor, by gravity. The kitchen was
*always* flooded, every Monday. The lid was placed behind the machine,
below the mangle, to catch the washing as it was fed through. Washing
then taken out to the line, pegged and propped, job done. Unless the
line snapped, of course.
--
Graeme

Graeme wrote:

Yes, ours was a hellava palaver. The thing had to be pulled out to the
middle of the kitchen floor, then filled via a length of pipe which was
(partially) attached to a sink tap, with the other end in the upright
drum. Pipe removed, powder and clothes added, agitator agitated. No
heating of water. Clothes then transferred to sink for rinsing, then
back to the Goblin, to use the mangle which folded flat when not in use.

IIRC we did rinsing in the machine, though perhaps having its own
emptying pump made this option more attractive.

The mangle was stored in a cubby hole under the drum, and when
mounted could pivot between positions 90 deg apart. There was a
little see-saw metal tray which made sure that, so long as you
selected the right roller direction, water drained back into the
tub. Otherwise...

We did still have the manual mangle, and kept the gas boiler for
occasional use - still had it when North Sea Gas came in.

The arrival of a spin drier was a big advance.

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Plant amazing Acers.

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .

Sorry I was referring to the mangle being powered by me. Clothes
washing was done by hand.

Is that a brass band I hear, starting up in background ?


michael adams

....

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 12:42:38 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , Graeme
wrote:

In message , Harry Bloomfield
writes

My parents first washing machine, a single tub English Electric, had a
powered mangle on top.

So did ours - powered by my mum. That was a Goblin (the machine, not
mum).

Ours was usually powered by me. And was used in the kitchen. IIRC, it
folded away under the kitchen table.

Likewise and , I remember Mother actually buying it.
It was an Acme just like this one
http://maplestreet.co.uk/images/dh131l.jpg
Only saw a few years of service before mains electric arrived and a
Twin tub was obtained.

See quite a few of the much older iron framed ones as garden
ornaments though the wooden rollers are usually well past it.
The more modern ones like the Acme with steel construction and rubber
rollers will have disintegrated far more and even if they hadn't would
look like junk rather than old and interesting.

We don't have a large kitchen and I felt that the space could be
better utilised than having a washing machine in it. The easiest
option was one of those Plastic Keter garden storage units,they call
them a Store it Out now , located outside the bathroom window with
water and electric fed inside it.
Rain has never penetrated but just in case I used a weatherproof RCD
socket making it a double should we ever want to put a drier
alongside.
That was over ten years ago and the Hotpoint washing machine is still
reliable, had a bit of case corrosion at the very bottom which dealt
with this spring with the usual wire brush and Kurust treatment.
Washing goes straight onto the line about 6ft away , it's rare even in
Winter that there isn't a day or two in the week that you can't dry
things and I have never got around to purchasing a dryer.
Only two of us at home though, a family may struggle.

G.Harman

On Wednesday, 12 July 2017 12:00:28 UTC+1, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Tim Streater was thinking very hard :
And the mangle. Don't forget the mangle. Apart from the gas cooker, it
was the only kitchen appliance that we had when I was a child.

Wasn't the mangle something which was normally used in a backyard?

My parents first washing machine, a single tub English Electric, had a
powered mangle on top.

I still, but only just remember the tin bath in the garden.

"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Wednesday, 12 July 2017 12:00:28 UTC+1, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Tim Streater was thinking very hard :
And the mangle. Don't forget the mangle. Apart from the gas cooker, it
was the only kitchen appliance that we had when I was a child.

Wasn't the mangle something which was normally used in a backyard?

My parents first washing machine, a single tub English Electric, had a
powered mangle on top.

I still, but only just remember the tin bath in the garden.


That's more brass bands starting up.

michael adams

....

On 7/12/2017 3:51 PM, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 12 July 2017 12:00:28 UTC+1, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Tim Streater was thinking very hard :
And the mangle. Don't forget the mangle. Apart from the gas cooker, it
was the only kitchen appliance that we had when I was a child.

Wasn't the mangle something which was normally used in a backyard?

My parents first washing machine, a single tub English Electric, had a
powered mangle on top.

I still, but only just remember the tin bath in the garden.

We had a proper enamelled bath, with gas geyser over, in the home
counties. But going back to mother's family in Swansea for summer
holidays in the 1950's, they still had the tin bath. Not in the garden,
though, in the everyday living room in front of a coal fire / range.
There was a front parlour for Sundays, funerals, and posh visitors of
course.

Harry Bloomfield wrote
Tim Streater wrote

And the mangle. Don't forget the mangle. Apart from the gas cooker,
it was the only kitchen appliance that we had when I was a child.

Wasn't the mangle something which was normally used in a backyard?

Nope, in the laundry wherever I saw one.

My parents first washing machine, a single tub
English Electric, had a powered mangle on top.

On 12/07/2017 12:00, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Tim Streater was thinking very hard :
And the mangle. Don't forget the mangle. Apart from the gas cooker, it
was the only kitchen appliance that we had when I was a child.

Wasn't the mangle something which was normally used in a backyard?

My parents first washing machine, a single tub English Electric, had a
powered mangle on top.

Yeah and a lever on the side to smack if you got your tits caught.

--
Max Demian

On 12/07/17 12:00, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Tim Streater was thinking very hard :
And the mangle. Don't forget the mangle. Apart from the gas cooker, it
was the only kitchen appliance that we had when I was a child.

Wasn't the mangle something which was normally used in a backyard?

My parents first washing machine, a single tub English Electric, had a
powered mangle on top.

I remember that kind, but asingle tub Hoover as I remember it.

--
djc

(–€Ì¿Ä¹Ì¯–€Ì¿ Ì¿)
No low-hanging fruit, just a lot of small berries up a tall tree.

On Wednesday, 12 July 2017 21:16:38 UTC+1, DJC wrote:
My parents first washing machine, a single tub English Electric, had a
powered mangle on top.
I remember that kind, but asingle tub Hoover as I remember it.

Like this one?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/382152210520

Owain

On Wednesday, 12 July 2017 21:23:07 UTC+1, wrote:
On Wednesday, 12 July 2017 21:16:38 UTC+1, DJC wrote:
My parents first washing machine, a single tub English Electric, had a
powered mangle on top.
I remember that kind, but asingle tub Hoover as I remember it.

Like this one?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/382152210520

Owain

I reemebr my mum using a dual tub version , where yuo took the washing out of teh water section then into the spin dryer.

In message ,
whisky-dave writes

I reemebr my mum using a dual tub version , where yuo took the washing
out of teh water section then into the spin dryer.

Twin Tub. Yes, I had one when I bought my first house in 75. Great fun
having to remove the wet stuff from one tub, and dump in the spin tub.
I had a pair of wooden tongs for that job.
--
Graeme

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 02:44:11 -0700, whisky-dave wrote:

On Wednesday, 12 July 2017 21:23:07 UTC+1,
wrote:
On Wednesday, 12 July 2017 21:16:38 UTC+1, DJC wrote:
My parents first washing machine, a single tub English Electric,
had a powered mangle on top.
I remember that kind, but asingle tub Hoover as I remember it.

Like this one?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/382152210520

Owain

I reemebr my mum using a dual tub version , where yuo took the washing
out of teh water section then into the spin dryer.

Your mum? We used to have one (well, two).

When we married, we were living in a flat. It didn't come with a washing
machine and it was a very low rent (actual, altruistic landlady, even
gave us a nice wedding present).

One of our professors (well, two actually - the other being his wife)
gave us a secondhand twin tub machine. It lasted about 8 years, and then
was basically unrepairable. It was good because our kitchen was *tiny* -
we kept it under the stairs and wheeled it out for wash days.

When it broke, I managed to find a brand new one - so we got that (there
was *no* room for an automatic).

And we, too, had the wooden tongs for transferring washing to the spinner.



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"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .

And the mangle. Don't forget the mangle. Apart from the gas cooker, it
was the only kitchen appliance that we had when I was a child.

Indeed, Because your parents couldn't afford a fridge, could they Tim ?

And all this despite the Conservative Prime Minister of the time Harold MacMillan
claiming in July 1957 that

"most of our people have never had it so good"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...950s-boom.html

Despite the fact that by 1959, after 8 years of Conservative government

"But even in 1959, as we bounced back to prosperity, only 13 per cent of homes had a
refrigerator"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddr...he-fridge.html

Telegraph again. No socialist propaganda here,

So maybe what the Conservative Prime Minister Harold Macmillan really
meant to say back in 1957 was

"Most of out people have never had folding mangles before"

What do you think ?


michael adams

....

michael adams wrote:

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
. ..

And the mangle. Don't forget the mangle. Apart from the gas cooker, it
was the only kitchen appliance that we had when I was a child.

Indeed, Because your parents couldn't afford a fridge, could they Tim ?

My parents moved into their first house, newly built, in 1947. It
was a 2 bed semi. The dining kitchen had a coal fire with
attached oven. In the alcove to one side, with doors over it, was
the kitchen sink. On the drainer sat a two burner gas hob,
levelled with an offcut of timber.

The work surface was an old marble-topped dresser, and the larder
contained a wooden food safe with perforated metal sides.

In the garden sat what was allowed to have been built as a "wash
house" where the gas boiler and mangle stood, but also became my
dad's workshop.

Looks like the property has moved with the times:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/detailMatching.html/svr/2708;jsessionid=8E21BC04CA8E790FC305130ADAA487C3?p rop=38110574&sale=71036616&country=england

From memory we got TV in 54, and moved house in 56.

Gas cooker probably 57, washing machine 58, fridge 59, spin dryer
61, car 62, phone 63.

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Plant amazing Acers.

"Chris J Dixon" wrote in message
...
michael adams wrote:

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
...

And the mangle. Don't forget the mangle. Apart from the gas cooker, it
was the only kitchen appliance that we had when I was a child.

Indeed, Because your parents couldn't afford a fridge, could they Tim ?


My parents moved into their first house, newly built, in 1947. It
was a 2 bed semi. The dining kitchen had a coal fire with
attached oven. In the alcove to one side, with doors over it, was
the kitchen sink. On the drainer sat a two burner gas hob,
levelled with an offcut of timber.

The work surface was an old marble-topped dresser, and the larder
contained a wooden food safe with perforated metal sides.

In the garden sat what was allowed to have been built as a "wash
house" where the gas boiler and mangle stood, but also became my
dad's workshop.

Looks like the property has moved with the times:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/detailMatching.html/svr/2708;jsessionid=8E21BC04CA8E790FC305130ADAA487C3?p rop=38110574&sale=71036616&country=england

From memory we got TV in 54, and moved house in 56.

So do you agree with Harold Macmillan, the Conservative Prime
Minister who in 1957 claimed that, "our people have never had
it so good"

In your case your parents got the TV, but do you really think
Harold Macmillan really had a clue what he was taking about ?
When it turns out, that Conservative supporting Tim Straeter's
mum was stil doing the washing in the sink ?

There's a lot of fuss today about this leader of K&C Council
never having visited a tower block. Now as it happens, I've got
a lot of time for old Mac. He really did get wounded in WW1
more than once, and really did sit reading the small copy of
Aeschylus he carried everywhere, while stuck in a shell hole
waiting to rescued, he hoped, that night. And he did have to
keep a stiff upper lip while Boothby carried on with his
wife for years. Which everybody knew about. She was higher
born than him with no crofters in her background so
that was it.

However it was only reading of Tims inpoverished background
that the full import of his fellow Conservative's remark
really struck home. Did he really think people with folding
mangles who were still doing their washing in the sink
"had never had it so good ?".

michael adams

....







Gas cooker probably 57, washing machine 58, fridge 59, spin dryer
61, car 62, phone 63.

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Plant amazing Acers.

On 12/07/17 15:46, michael adams wrote:
"Chris J Dixon" wrote in message
...
michael adams wrote:

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .

And the mangle. Don't forget the mangle. Apart from the gas cooker, it
was the only kitchen appliance that we had when I was a child.

Indeed, Because your parents couldn't afford a fridge, could they Tim ?


My parents moved into their first house, newly built, in 1947. It
was a 2 bed semi. The dining kitchen had a coal fire with
attached oven. In the alcove to one side, with doors over it, was
the kitchen sink. On the drainer sat a two burner gas hob,
levelled with an offcut of timber.

The work surface was an old marble-topped dresser, and the larder
contained a wooden food safe with perforated metal sides.

In the garden sat what was allowed to have been built as a "wash
house" where the gas boiler and mangle stood, but also became my
dad's workshop.

Looks like the property has moved with the times:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/detailMatching.html/svr/2708;jsessionid=8E21BC04CA8E790FC305130ADAA487C3?p rop=38110574&sale=71036616&country=england

From memory we got TV in 54, and moved house in 56.

So do you agree with Harold Macmillan, the Conservative Prime
Minister who in 1957 claimed that, "our people have never had
it so good"

In your case your parents got the TV, but do you really think
Harold Macmillan really had a clue what he was taking about ?
When it turns out, that Conservative supporting Tim Straeter's
mum was stil doing the washing in the sink ?

There's a lot of fuss today about this leader of K&C Council
never having visited a tower block. Now as it happens, I've got
a lot of time for old Mac. He really did get wounded in WW1
more than once, and really did sit reading the small copy of
Aeschylus he carried everywhere, while stuck in a shell hole
waiting to rescued, he hoped, that night. And he did have to
keep a stiff upper lip while Boothby carried on with his
wife for years. Which everybody knew about. She was higher
born than him with no crofters in her background so
that was it.

However it was only reading of Tims inpoverished background
that the full import of his fellow Conservative's remark
really struck home. Did he really think people with folding
mangles who were still doing their washing in the sink
"had never had it so good ?".


Yes.

For most of us it was true. We had a house. It had a fire and we could
sometimes afford to light it. We had decent radio with the BBC. far
better than it is now.

The library was free and full of books.

We didnt die from polio diptheria cholera or TB any more.

Or buzz bombs or V1s.

School actually taught us something.

We didnt have to go outside for a ****.

WE mostly had three meals a day. They might not have been great, but we
had them.

Sometimes we even got new clothes to wear.

We knew our neighbours. They even talked English.

Some people even had Cars.

It got even better with decent meals three times a day and Central Heating.

And then Labour got in and it was crap for the next 50 years aprt from a
brief interlude around Thatchers time.



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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
news

We didnt have to go outside for a ****.

quote

But according to a 2010 article in The Guardian, it is estimated by the Halifax that
40,000
homes in the UK still have an outside loo: and attitudes are changing.

http://www.plumbworld.co.uk/blog/fall-rise-toilet/

/quote

Except that 53 years after "Our people have never had it so good", and 11
years of Thatcher it seems there are still 40,000 people having to go
outside for a ****.

That fact alone shows how much you really know about how some people
still have to live in this country, which is supposedly the 5th richest the world.


michael adams

....

On Wednesday, 12 July 2017 16:20:05 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 12/07/17 15:46, michael adams wrote:




The library was free and full of books.

They still exist.


We didnt die from polio diptheria cholera or TB any more.

We don't now.


Or buzz bombs or V1s.

well no, it's all terror now.


School actually taught us something.

Maybe, there's a madness song about that.


We didnt have to go outside for a ****.

WE mostly had three meals a day. They might not have been great, but we
had them.

Sometimes we even got new clothes to wear.

amazing.


We knew our neighbours. They even talked English.

Mine can talk English too, and they can speak other languages.


Some people even had Cars.

I bet some had bikes too.


It got even better with decent meals three times a day and Central Heating.

What year was this ?


And then Labour got in and it was crap for the next 50 years aprt from a
brief interlude around Thatchers time.


1945-1951: Clement Atlee (Labour)

1951-1955: Winston Churchill (Conservative)

1955-1957: Anthony Eden (Conservative)

1957-1963: Harold Macmillan (Conservative)

1963-1964: Alec Douglas-Home (Conservative)

1964-1970: Harold Wilson (Labour)

1970-1974: Edward Heath (Conservative)

1974-1976: Harold Wilson (Labour)

1976-1979: James Callaghan (Labour)

1979-1990: Margaret Thatcher (Conservative)

1990-1997: John Major (Conservative)

1997-2007: Tony Blair (Labour)

2007-2010: Gordon Brown (Labour)

2010-2016: David Cameron (Conservative)

Remind me who and when the NHS started and which party was in power.

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 16:19:55 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

And then Labour got in and it was crap for the next 50 years aprt from a
brief interlude around Thatchers time.

Apart from those trying to pay their mortgage.



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"michael adams" wrote in message
o.uk...

"Chris J Dixon" wrote in message
...
michael adams wrote:

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
t...

And the mangle. Don't forget the mangle. Apart from the gas cooker, it
was the only kitchen appliance that we had when I was a child.

Indeed, Because your parents couldn't afford a fridge, could they Tim ?


My parents moved into their first house, newly built, in 1947. It
was a 2 bed semi. The dining kitchen had a coal fire with
attached oven. In the alcove to one side, with doors over it, was
the kitchen sink. On the drainer sat a two burner gas hob,
levelled with an offcut of timber.

The work surface was an old marble-topped dresser, and the larder
contained a wooden food safe with perforated metal sides.

In the garden sat what was allowed to have been built as a "wash
house" where the gas boiler and mangle stood, but also became my
dad's workshop.

Looks like the property has moved with the times:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/detailMatching.html/svr/2708;jsessionid=8E21BC04CA8E790FC305130ADAA487C3?p rop=38110574&sale=71036616&country=england

From memory we got TV in 54, and moved house in 56.

So do you agree with Harold Macmillan, the Conservative Prime
Minister who in 1957 claimed that, "our people have never had
it so good"

In your case your parents got the TV, but do you really think
Harold Macmillan really had a clue what he was taking about ?

Yes, he clearly did.

When it turns out, that Conservative supporting Tim Straeter's
mum was stil doing the washing in the sink ?

But she would have had some things better than they had been,
most obviously with stuff like TV and electrical appliances like
vacuum cleaners and even really radical stuff like mixmasters etc.

There's a lot of fuss today about this leader of K&C Council
never having visited a tower block. Now as it happens, I've got a lot of
time for old Mac. He really did get wounded in WW1 more than once, and
really did sit reading the small copy of Aeschylus he carried everywhere,
while stuck in a shell hole waiting to rescued, he hoped, that night. And
he did have to keep a stiff upper lip while Boothby carried on with his
wife for years. Which everybody knew about. She was higher born than him
with no crofters in her background so that was it.

However it was only reading of Tims inpoverished background that the full
import of his fellow Conservative's remark really struck home. Did he
really think people with folding mangles who were still doing their
washing in the sink "had never had it so good ?".

Corse that was true even for them. Particularly with the massive
slum clearances after the war after the war bomb damage etc.

Gas cooker probably 57, washing machine 58, fridge 59, spin dryer
61, car 62, phone 63.

On 7/12/2017 8:27 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"michael adams" wrote in message
o.uk...

"Chris J Dixon" wrote in message
...
michael adams wrote:

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .

And the mangle. Don't forget the mangle. Apart from the gas cooker, it
was the only kitchen appliance that we had when I was a child.

Indeed, Because your parents couldn't afford a fridge, could they Tim ?


My parents moved into their first house, newly built, in 1947. It
was a 2 bed semi. The dining kitchen had a coal fire with
attached oven. In the alcove to one side, with doors over it, was
the kitchen sink. On the drainer sat a two burner gas hob,
levelled with an offcut of timber.

The work surface was an old marble-topped dresser, and the larder
contained a wooden food safe with perforated metal sides.

In the garden sat what was allowed to have been built as a "wash
house" where the gas boiler and mangle stood, but also became my
dad's workshop.

Looks like the property has moved with the times:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/detailMatching.html/svr/2708;jsessionid=8E21BC04CA8E790FC305130ADAA487C3?p rop=38110574&sale=71036616&country=england


From memory we got TV in 54, and moved house in 56.

So do you agree with Harold Macmillan, the Conservative Prime
Minister who in 1957 claimed that, "our people have never had
it so good"

In your case your parents got the TV, but do you really think
Harold Macmillan really had a clue what he was taking about ?

Yes, he clearly did.

When it turns out, that Conservative supporting Tim Straeter's
mum was stil doing the washing in the sink ?

But she would have had some things better than they had been,
most obviously with stuff like TV and electrical appliances like
vacuum cleaners and even really radical stuff like mixmasters etc.

There's a lot of fuss today about this leader of K&C Council
never having visited a tower block. Now as it happens, I've got a lot
of time for old Mac. He really did get wounded in WW1 more than once,
and really did sit reading the small copy of Aeschylus he carried
everywhere, while stuck in a shell hole waiting to rescued, he hoped,
that night. And he did have to keep a stiff upper lip while Boothby
carried on with his wife for years. Which everybody knew about. She
was higher born than him with no crofters in her background so that
was it.

+1

He did also say that there was nothing better than going to bed with a
good Trollope. And his comments, after the Miners' strike, to my mind
absolutely confirm him as a basically very decent man.

The only PM I have actually met, if you can count "met" as being tapped
on the shoulders by a piece of rolled up parchment.

"michael adams" wrote in message
news

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .

And the mangle. Don't forget the mangle. Apart from the gas cooker, it
was the only kitchen appliance that we had when I was a child.

Indeed, Because your parents couldn't afford a fridge, could they Tim ?

And all this despite the Conservative Prime Minister of the time Harold
MacMillan
claiming in July 1957 that

"most of our people have never had it so good"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...950s-boom.html

Despite the fact that by 1959, after 8 years of Conservative government

"But even in 1959, as we bounced back to prosperity, only 13 per cent of
homes had a
refrigerator"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddr...he-fridge.html

Telegraph again. No socialist propaganda here,

So maybe what the Conservative Prime Minister Harold Macmillan really
meant to say back in 1957 was

"Most of out people have never had folding mangles before"

What do you think ?

That he was right, most people had never had it so good,
even when they had no fridge and only had a mangle.

On 7/12/2017 11:44 AM, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Brian Gaff
wrote:

Its a cultural thing though , is it not? we have a tradition of the
washing machine being in the kitchen, and other countries tend to
have utility rooms for this sort of thing. Indeed we used to build
houses with a scullery for all sorts of things, including the water
boiling copper and the tin bath.

And the mangle. Don't forget the mangle. Apart from the gas cooker, it
was the only kitchen appliance that we had when I was a child.


+1. The mangle lived in the yard, of course. And I remember getting the
first washing machine, a second-hand single tub one without its own
mangle. And the KepKold (spelling?), about the same size as a two drawer
filing cabinet, but with two opening doors. Asbestos cement panels on
the top and sides, a reservoir on the top which you filled up with water
for evaporative cooling. 1930's 3 bed detatched house in Metroland, it
had a pantry on a North corner, with a concrete (not marble) slab, and
ventilator to the outside. First fridge came quite a bit later.

DHW from a pot-bellied cast iron coal stove in the kitchen, and an open
flue geyser over the bath. The stove had to go with the clean air act,
replaced by a Rayburn coke stove in the living room, galvanised riveted
hot water tank (uninsulated), and an immersion heater!

Jerome wrote:
Tim Streater wrote:

Don't forget the mangle. Apart from the gas cooker, it was
the only kitchen appliance that we had when I was a child.

You were lucky. When we got 'ome from us school our mam
would make us wring washin' out by 'and.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo