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I'm looking for the sort of thing I have on a worktop oven, knob which
you rotate to turn the power on and it winds down on clockwork, giving you a maximum of 1 hour power. Ideally capable of switching 13A, but it would be easy enough to add a relay. For reasons I won't bore you with, I'd rather not have anything electronic. TIA |
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On Tuesday, 11 July 2017 18:08:03 UTC+1, newshound wrote:
I'm looking for the sort of thing I have on a worktop oven, knob which you rotate to turn the power on and it winds down on clockwork, giving you a maximum of 1 hour power. Ideally capable of switching 13A, but it would be easy enough to add a relay. For reasons I won't bore you with, I'd rather not have anything electronic. TIA you need a dead microwave. NT |
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newshound has brought this to us :
I'm looking for the sort of thing I have on a worktop oven, knob which you rotate to turn the power on and it winds down on clockwork, giving you a maximum of 1 hour power. Ideally capable of switching 13A, but it would be easy enough to add a relay. For reasons I won't bore you with, I'd rather not have anything electronic. TIA Bull Electrical always used to be good for these types of unusual things.. http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/tutoria....uk/shops.html Their web site seems not to be well maintained now, numerous broken links. |
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On 11/07/2017 18:27, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
newshound has brought this to us : I'm looking for the sort of thing I have on a worktop oven, knob which you rotate to turn the power on and it winds down on clockwork, giving you a maximum of 1 hour power. Ideally capable of switching 13A, but it would be easy enough to add a relay. For reasons I won't bore you with, I'd rather not have anything electronic. TIA Bull Electrical always used to be good for these types of unusual things.. http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/tutoria....uk/shops.html Their web site seems not to be well maintained now, numerous broken links. Is this what you want, BUT made in HongKong and 2 pin. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AC220V-50H... RL4v7enlZbhtQ |
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On 11/07/2017 18:43, ss wrote:
On 11/07/2017 18:27, Harry Bloomfield wrote: newshound has brought this to us : I'm looking for the sort of thing I have on a worktop oven, knob which you rotate to turn the power on and it winds down on clockwork, giving you a maximum of 1 hour power. Ideally capable of switching 13A, but it would be easy enough to add a relay. For reasons I won't bore you with, I'd rather not have anything electronic. TIA Bull Electrical always used to be good for these types of unusual things.. http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/tutoria....uk/shops.html Their web site seems not to be well maintained now, numerous broken links. Is this what you want, BUT made in HongKong and 2 pin. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AC220V-50H... RL4v7enlZbhtQ Or this from B&Q................ http://www.diy.com/departments/diall...FUWhUQodkKMPOg |
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On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 18:07:59 +0100, newshound
wrote: I'm looking for the sort of thing I have on a worktop oven, knob which you rotate to turn the power on and it winds down on clockwork, giving you a maximum of 1 hour power. Ideally capable of switching 13A, but it would be easy enough to add a relay. For reasons I won't bore you with, I'd rather not have anything electronic. TIA Sounds like something they had in billiard halls for the lights. I wonder if those pneumatic light switches used in the common areas of flats can be adjusted or modified for 1 hour delay. -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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On Tuesday, 11 July 2017 18:08:03 UTC+1, newshound wrote:
I'm looking for the sort of thing I have on a worktop oven, knob which you rotate to turn the power on and it winds down on clockwork, giving you a maximum of 1 hour power. That exact thing is avaavailable from catering equiequipment spares suppliers eg http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131217553068 Owain |
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"newshound" wrote in message o.uk... I'm looking for the sort of thing I have on a worktop oven, knob which you rotate to turn the power on and it winds down on clockwork, giving you a maximum of 1 hour power. Ideally capable of switching 13A, but it would be easy enough to add a relay. For reasons I won't bore you with, I'd rather not have anything electronic. TIA dificult.... I managed to get a few mechanical ones at car boot sales but not retail....homebase did an electronic version which are ok .... |
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Well maybe a bomber is reading this...
Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! "newshound" wrote in message o.uk... I'm looking for the sort of thing I have on a worktop oven, knob which you rotate to turn the power on and it winds down on clockwork, giving you a maximum of 1 hour power. Ideally capable of switching 13A, but it would be easy enough to add a relay. For reasons I won't bore you with, I'd rather not have anything electronic. TIA |
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wrote in message ... On Tuesday, 11 July 2017 18:08:03 UTC+1, newshound wrote: I'm looking for the sort of thing I have on a worktop oven, knob which you rotate to turn the power on and it winds down on clockwork, giving you a maximum of 1 hour power. That exact thing is avaavailable from catering equiequipment spares suppliers eg http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131217553068 Pity about the price. |
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On Tuesday, 11 July 2017 18:27:06 UTC+1, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
newshound has brought this to us : Bull Electrical always used to be good for these types of unusual things.. http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/tutoria....uk/shops.html Their web site seems not to be well maintained now, numerous broken links. A total of 5 products listed. Everything else is broken or 3rd party links. They used to be useful decades ago, though hardly respectable. NT |
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"ss" wrote in message ... On 11/07/2017 18:27, Harry Bloomfield wrote: newshound has brought this to us : I'm looking for the sort of thing I have on a worktop oven, knob which you rotate to turn the power on and it winds down on clockwork, giving you a maximum of 1 hour power. Ideally capable of switching 13A, but it would be easy enough to add a relay. For reasons I won't bore you with, I'd rather not have anything electronic. TIA Bull Electrical always used to be good for these types of unusual things.. http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/tutoria....uk/shops.html Their web site seems not to be well maintained now, numerous broken links. Is this what you want, BUT made in HongKong and 2 pin. And AU plug. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AC220V-50H... RL4v7enlZbhtQ |
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On 7/11/2017 6:47 PM, ss wrote:
On 11/07/2017 18:43, ss wrote: On 11/07/2017 18:27, Harry Bloomfield wrote: newshound has brought this to us : I'm looking for the sort of thing I have on a worktop oven, knob which you rotate to turn the power on and it winds down on clockwork, giving you a maximum of 1 hour power. Ideally capable of switching 13A, but it would be easy enough to add a relay. For reasons I won't bore you with, I'd rather not have anything electronic. TIA Bull Electrical always used to be good for these types of unusual things.. http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/tutoria....uk/shops.html Their web site seems not to be well maintained now, numerous broken links. Is this what you want, BUT made in HongKong and 2 pin. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AC220V-50H... RL4v7enlZbhtQ Or this from B&Q................ http://www.diy.com/departments/diall...FUWhUQodkKMPOg Thanks, I really wanted something to be permanently wired in. Obviously, I could canibalise the Chinese one. |
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On 7/11/2017 7:11 PM, Brian Gaff wrote:
Well maybe a bomber is reading this... Brian Hadn't thought of that! ISTR a good example of lateral thinking from the 1970's when the IRA were using RS mercury tilt switches in car bombs like the one that got Airey Neave. So someone went and had a quiet word with RS sales and they passed copies of new orders to MI5, leading to the arrest of a bomb-maker. |
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On 7/11/2017 6:12 PM, Tim+ wrote:
newshound Wrote in message: I'm looking for the sort of thing I have on a worktop oven, knob which you rotate to turn the power on and it winds down on clockwork, giving you a maximum of 1 hour power. Ideally capable of switching 13A, but it would be easy enough to add a relay. For reasons I won't bore you with, I'd rather not have anything electronic. TIA I was gonna say, just cannibalise an old microwave but then it occured to me that most microwaves aren't as old as ours. ;-) Tumble dryer timer? Tim Very good point, forgotten about them. Might even have one in my huge box of "things which might come in useful one day". I certainly recycled a washing machine pressure switch from there into a Saniflo a few years ago. In fact here is one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-WH...0AAOSw~bFWQK4F I can always get down from 140 minutes to 60 by adding a cam. |
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newshound wrote:
a good example of lateral thinking from the 1970's when the IRA were using RS mercury tilt switches in car bombs like the one that got Airey Neave. So someone went and had a quiet word with RS sales and they passed copies of new orders to MI5, leading to the arrest of a bomb-maker. I think they were somewhat worried by the arrival of the ZN1034 timer chip. |
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On 11/07/2017 18:48, wrote:
On Tuesday, 11 July 2017 18:08:03 UTC+1, newshound wrote: I'm looking for the sort of thing I have on a worktop oven, knob which you rotate to turn the power on and it winds down on clockwork, giving you a maximum of 1 hour power. That exact thing is avaavailable from catering equiequipment spares suppliers eg http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131217553068 £30? looks like the one my £8 Argos steamer has. -- Max Demian |
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On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 18:47:51 +0100, Graham. wrote:
I wonder if those pneumatic light switches used in the common areas of flats can be adjusted or modified for 1 hour delay. They can be adjusted but at the longer end of the delay time are very sensitive to the adjustment screw. ie it'll change when fixed back to the wall box... Can you get motor driven 1 hour plug in timers? They are normally 24hr. Grab the guts of one of those and rewire the motor to the switched side. Turn it so it switches on, it'll run until it switches off. -- Cheers Dave. |
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writes newshound Wrote in message: I'm looking for the sort of thing I have on a worktop oven, knob which you rotate to turn the power on and it winds down on clockwork, giving you a maximum of 1 hour power. Ideally capable of switching 13A, but it would be easy enough to add a relay. For reasons I won't bore you with, I'd rather not have anything electronic. TIA I was gonna say, just cannibalise an old microwave but then it occured to me that most microwaves aren't as old as ours. ;-) Tumble dryer timer? Tim +1 -- bert |
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writes On 11/07/2017 18:43, ss wrote: On 11/07/2017 18:27, Harry Bloomfield wrote: newshound has brought this to us : I'm looking for the sort of thing I have on a worktop oven, knob which you rotate to turn the power on and it winds down on clockwork, giving you a maximum of 1 hour power. Ideally capable of switching 13A, but it would be easy enough to add a relay. For reasons I won't bore you with, I'd rather not have anything electronic. TIA Bull Electrical always used to be good for these types of unusual things.. http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/tutoria....uk/shops.html Their web site seems not to be well maintained now, numerous broken links. Is this what you want, BUT made in HongKong and 2 pin. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AC220V-50H...chanical-Timer -Switch-Countdown-Control-Socket-DY-/282387633103?var=&hash=item41bf9d5 3cf:m:mEyh0vu9y6RL4v7enlZbhtQ Or this from B&Q................ http://www.diy.com/departments/diall...er/800766_BQ.p rd?ecamp=Seapla&ppc_type=shopping&ds_kids=9270002 0189866510&gclid=EAIaIQ obChMI7bDno-SB1QIV67DtCh24kANlEAQYAiABEgIpD_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds .ds&dclid= CKK5xarkgdUCFUWhUQodkKMPOg Well their 24hr mechanical timers are ****e. -- bert |
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On 11/07/17 18:07, newshound wrote:
I'm looking for the sort of thing I have on a worktop oven, knob which you rotate to turn the power on and it winds down on clockwork, giving you a maximum of 1 hour power. Ideally capable of switching 13A, but it would be easy enough to add a relay. For reasons I won't bore you with, I'd rather not have anything electronic. TIA see if you can blag a skipped microwave. FWIW you can buy a switch like that with a (rather poor) microwave attached from tescos for £35 IIRC https://www.tesco.com/direct/tesco-s...e/204-8921.prd -- The lifetime of any political organisation is about three years before its been subverted by the people it tried to warn you about. Anon. |
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On 11/07/17 18:48, wrote:
On Tuesday, 11 July 2017 18:08:03 UTC+1, newshound wrote: I'm looking for the sort of thing I have on a worktop oven, knob which you rotate to turn the power on and it winds down on clockwork, giving you a maximum of 1 hour power. That exact thing is avaavailable from catering equiequipment spares suppliers eg http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131217553068 Owain Vheaper to pop down to tescos and buy their microwave -- The lifetime of any political organisation is about three years before its been subverted by the people it tried to warn you about. Anon. |
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On Tuesday, 11 July 2017 20:38:59 UTC+1, newshound wrote:
Very good point, forgotten about them. Might even have one in my huge box of "things which might come in useful one day". I certainly recycled a washing machine pressure switch from there into a Saniflo a few years ago. Why, have you added a "curry" setting to the saniflo??? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39176358 Owain |
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Wrote in message:
On Tuesday, 11 July 2017 20:38:59 UTC+1, newshound wrote: Very good point, forgotten about them. Might even have one in my huge box of "things which might come in useful one day". I certainly recycled a washing machine pressure switch from there into a Saniflo a few years ago. Why, have you added a "curry" setting to the saniflo??? Shurely shomewhat unneshecessary?! -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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The Natural Philosopher Wrote in message:
On 11/07/17 18:48, wrote: On Tuesday, 11 July 2017 18:08:03 UTC+1, newshound wrote: I'm looking for the sort of thing I have on a worktop oven, knob which you rotate to turn the power on and it winds down on clockwork, giving you a maximum of 1 hour power. That exact thing is avaavailable from catering equiequipment spares suppliers eg http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131217553068 Owain Vheaper to pop down to tescos and buy their microwave NSS -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 11/07/17 18:07, newshound wrote:
I'm looking for the sort of thing I have on a worktop oven, knob which you rotate to turn the power on and it winds down on clockwork, giving you a maximum of 1 hour power. Ideally capable of switching 13A, but it would be easy enough to add a relay. For reasons I won't bore you with, I'd rather not have anything electronic. TIA Timer Relay, 0 †’ 120 min, DPDT, 250 V ac - £20 http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/time-d...elays/5362779/ -- Adrian C |
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On 7/12/2017 11:33 PM, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
On 11/07/17 18:07, newshound wrote: I'm looking for the sort of thing I have on a worktop oven, knob which you rotate to turn the power on and it winds down on clockwork, giving you a maximum of 1 hour power. Ideally capable of switching 13A, but it would be easy enough to add a relay. For reasons I won't bore you with, I'd rather not have anything electronic. TIA Timer Relay, 0 †’ 120 min, DPDT, 250 V ac - £20 http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/time-d...elays/5362779/ Well spotted, thanks! I didn't think to look in there! |
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Graham. wrote:
I wonder if those pneumatic light switches used in the common areas of flats can be adjusted or modified for 1 hour delay. There are these which are pneumatic and factory-set, apparently go up to 90 mins: http://www.green-plug.co.uk/ They work OK. Though I'd say their advantages are more in the sense of having a plug that's reasonably obvious to use and can't be trivially defeated by the user, rather than the superiority of pneumatics over electronics. (the site has a certain degree of greenwash too) Theo |
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Graham. wrote: I wonder if those pneumatic light switches used in the common areas of flats can be adjusted or modified for 1 hour delay. There are these which are pneumatic and factory-set, apparently go up to 90 mins: http://www.green-plug.co.uk/ They work OK. Though I'd say their advantages are more in the sense of having a plug that's reasonably obvious to use and can't be trivially defeated by the user, rather than the superiority of pneumatics over electronics. (the site has a certain degree of greenwash too) Theo RS do a run down mechanical 2 hour timer Can be set for shorter time periods. I use one for a bathroom fan. |
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On 7/13/2017 9:42 PM, Capitol wrote:
Theo wrote: Graham. wrote: I wonder if those pneumatic light switches used in the common areas of flats can be adjusted or modified for 1 hour delay. There are these which are pneumatic and factory-set, apparently go up to 90 mins: http://www.green-plug.co.uk/ They work OK. Though I'd say their advantages are more in the sense of having a plug that's reasonably obvious to use and can't be trivially defeated by the user, rather than the superiority of pneumatics over electronics. (the site has a certain degree of greenwash too) Theo RS do a run down mechanical 2 hour timer Can be set for shorter time periods. I use one for a bathroom fan. Yes thanks, someone else pointed that one out. It wasn't at all obvious that it could be set for shorter periods, that will make it ideal. |
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On 7/12/2017 9:52 PM, jim wrote:
Wrote in message: On Tuesday, 11 July 2017 20:38:59 UTC+1, newshound wrote: Very good point, forgotten about them. Might even have one in my huge box of "things which might come in useful one day". I certainly recycled a washing machine pressure switch from there into a Saniflo a few years ago. Why, have you added a "curry" setting to the saniflo??? Shurely shomewhat unneshecessary?! :-) The saniflo is switched on by water level rise in the reception tank, it turns out that a washing machine / dishwasher switch works fine. IIRC the "proper" one was either silly money or came with the electronics board, or just wasn't available. The "proper" one is a bit smaller, about 50 mm, but there is plenty of room for the standard 75 mm job. |
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writes Theo wrote: Graham. wrote: I wonder if those pneumatic light switches used in the common areas of flats can be adjusted or modified for 1 hour delay. There are these which are pneumatic and factory-set, apparently go up to 90 mins: http://www.green-plug.co.uk/ They work OK. Though I'd say their advantages are more in the sense of having a plug that's reasonably obvious to use and can't be trivially defeated by the user, rather than the superiority of pneumatics over electronics. (the site has a certain degree of greenwash too) Theo RS do a run down mechanical 2 hour timer Can be set for shorter time periods. I use one for a bathroom fan. Anyone got one which will automatically cut off the wife's phone calls after 59 minutes? -- bert |
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On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 21:56:24 +0100, newshound wrote:
On 7/12/2017 9:52 PM, jim wrote: Wrote in message: On Tuesday, 11 July 2017 20:38:59 UTC+1, newshound wrote: Very good point, forgotten about them. Might even have one in my huge box of "things which might come in useful one day". I certainly recycled a washing machine pressure switch from there into a Saniflo a few years ago. Why, have you added a "curry" setting to the saniflo??? Shurely shomewhat unneshecessary?! :-) The saniflo is switched on by water level rise in the reception tank, it turns out that a washing machine / dishwasher switch works fine. IIRC the "proper" one was either silly money or came with the electronics board, or just wasn't available. The "proper" one is a bit smaller, about 50 mm, but there is plenty of room for the standard 75 mm job. I wouldn't trust a Saniflo to manage a 75mm job! -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway |
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Or an old tumble dryer, mine has a month minute mechanical timer
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On 7/14/2017 8:23 AM, PeterC wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 21:56:24 +0100, newshound wrote: On 7/12/2017 9:52 PM, jim wrote: Wrote in message: On Tuesday, 11 July 2017 20:38:59 UTC+1, newshound wrote: Very good point, forgotten about them. Might even have one in my huge box of "things which might come in useful one day". I certainly recycled a washing machine pressure switch from there into a Saniflo a few years ago. Why, have you added a "curry" setting to the saniflo??? Shurely shomewhat unneshecessary?! :-) The saniflo is switched on by water level rise in the reception tank, it turns out that a washing machine / dishwasher switch works fine. IIRC the "proper" one was either silly money or came with the electronics board, or just wasn't available. The "proper" one is a bit smaller, about 50 mm, but there is plenty of room for the standard 75 mm job. I wouldn't trust a Saniflo to manage a 75mm job! It is tampons and wet-wipes that they don't like. DAMHIK. |
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On 7/13/2017 10:21 PM, bert wrote:
In article , Capitol writes Theo wrote: Graham. wrote: I wonder if those pneumatic light switches used in the common areas of flats can be adjusted or modified for 1 hour delay. There are these which are pneumatic and factory-set, apparently go up to 90 mins: http://www.green-plug.co.uk/ They work OK. Though I'd say their advantages are more in the sense of having a plug that's reasonably obvious to use and can't be trivially defeated by the user, rather than the superiority of pneumatics over electronics. (the site has a certain degree of greenwash too) Theo RS do a run down mechanical 2 hour timer Can be set for shorter time periods. I use one for a bathroom fan. Anyone got one which will automatically cut off the wife's phone calls after 59 minutes? Our phone bills went down when she discovered FB messenger. And, amazingly, she doesn't get through 1000 texts a month. |
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