was at a car boot sale today without my glasses and bought for a Fiver an
non-maintained emergency light ...any ideas what I could use it for? .....

On Wednesday, 28 June 2017 15:48:27 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
was at a car boot sale today without my glasses and bought for a Fiver an
non-maintained emergency light ...any ideas what I could use it for? .....

How about in a non-maintained emergency, that's what it's for.

On Wednesday, 28 June 2017 15:52:39 UTC+1, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 28 June 2017 15:48:27 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
was at a car boot sale today without my glasses and bought for a Fiver an
non-maintained emergency light ...any ideas what I could use it for? .....

How about in a non-maintained emergency, that's what it's for.

Indeed. Stick it over the stairs.


NT

Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
was at a car boot sale today without my glasses and bought for a
Fiver an non-maintained emergency light ...any ideas what I could use
it for? .....

Oh dear. Does it work?

Non-maintained emergency lighting is a luminaire made solely for emergency
use. It is designed to come on in the event of a mains power failure, making
sure all emergency exit routes are clearly illuminated, but will not be
active as your normal day-to-day lighting system.

Is this a serious question?
I'd have thought it was obvious.
Brian

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was at a car boot sale today without my glasses and bought for a Fiver an
non-maintained emergency light ...any ideas what I could use it for? .....

Jim GM4DHJ ... formulated the question :
was at a car boot sale today without my glasses and bought for a Fiver an
non-maintained emergency light ...any ideas what I could use it for? .....

Over your fuseboard connected, across the circuit which supplies the
light nearest the fuseboard, if that circuit trips or you lose all
mains supply it will then come on.

On 6/28/2017 5:38 PM, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Jim GM4DHJ ... formulated the question :
was at a car boot sale today without my glasses and bought for a Fiver
an non-maintained emergency light ...any ideas what I could use it
for? .....

Over your fuseboard connected, across the circuit which supplies the
light nearest the fuseboard, if that circuit trips or you lose all mains
supply it will then come on.

I have a Lidl rechargable torch in a holder on permanent trickle charge
in the hall next to the fusebox, this automatically comes on in a trip.
Under a tenner IIRC. Needless to say, I havn't had one since I bought it.

On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 15:48:23 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

was at a car boot sale today without my glasses and bought for a Fiver
an non-maintained emergency light ...any ideas what I could use it for?
.....

I have one on the stairs. It gives enough light to use the stairs safely
in an emrgency, and just enough for the hall and landing too.



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On Wednesday, 28 June 2017 15:48:27 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
was at a car boot sale today without my glasses and bought for a Fiver an
non-maintained emergency light ...any ideas what I could use it for?
.....

How about in a non-maintained emergency, that's what it's for.

Mmmm not in a house shirley? ....

"Mr Pounder Esquire" wrote in message
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Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
was at a car boot sale today without my glasses and bought for a
Fiver an non-maintained emergency light ...any ideas what I could use
it for? .....

Oh dear. Does it work?

Non-maintained emergency lighting is a luminaire made solely for emergency
use. It is designed to come on in the event of a mains power failure,
making sure all emergency exit routes are clearly illuminated, but will
not be active as your normal day-to-day lighting system.

that is why I asked .........no good to me for domestic use .....

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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Is this a serious question?
I'd have thought it was obvious.
Brian

what...stick it on ebay? ....

"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message
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Jim GM4DHJ ... formulated the question :
was at a car boot sale today without my glasses and bought for a Fiver an
non-maintained emergency light ...any ideas what I could use it for?
.....

Over your fuseboard connected, across the circuit which supplies the light
nearest the fuseboard, if that circuit trips or you lose all mains supply
it will then come on.

excelent harry never thought of that .....

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On 6/28/2017 5:38 PM, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Jim GM4DHJ ... formulated the question :
was at a car boot sale today without my glasses and bought for a Fiver
an non-maintained emergency light ...any ideas what I could use it for?
.....

Over your fuseboard connected, across the circuit which supplies the
light nearest the fuseboard, if that circuit trips or you lose all mains
supply it will then come on.

I have a Lidl rechargable torch in a holder on permanent trickle charge in
the hall next to the fusebox, this automatically comes on in a trip. Under
a tenner IIRC. Needless to say, I havn't had one since I bought it.

so not worth the bother then I have one like that in the hall .....lights up
pink

"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
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"Mr Pounder Esquire" wrote in message
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Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
was at a car boot sale today without my glasses and bought for a
Fiver an non-maintained emergency light ...any ideas what I could use
it for? .....

Oh dear. Does it work?

Non-maintained emergency lighting is a luminaire made solely for
emergency use. It is designed to come on in the event of a mains power
failure, making sure all emergency exit routes are clearly illuminated,
but will not be active as your normal day-to-day lighting system.

that is why I asked .........no good to me for domestic use .....


....except in a two storey HMO ......

Brian Gaff wrote:
Is this a serious question?
I'd have thought it was obvious.
Brian

was at a car boot sale today without my glasses and bought for a
Fiver an non-maintained emergency light ...any ideas what I could
use it for? .....

Jim is a refuge from uk.radio.amateur. If you know all about ham radios, you
are bright enough to know about emergency lighting.
I fear that he could be one of those posters that I have been warned about -
a troll!

"Mr Pounder Esquire" wrote in message
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Brian Gaff wrote:
Is this a serious question?
I'd have thought it was obvious.
Brian

was at a car boot sale today without my glasses and bought for a
Fiver an non-maintained emergency light ...any ideas what I could
use it for? .....

Jim is a refuge from uk.radio.amateur. If you know all about ham radios,
you are bright enough to know about emergency lighting.
I fear that he could be one of those posters that I have been warned
about - a troll!


believe me I know ALL about emergency lighting maintained or non-maintained
......I just feel stupid not to have read the box that the light came with
and now I am struggling to find a domestic use for it......honest not
trolling

On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 18:09:57 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

"Mr Pounder Esquire" wrote in message
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Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
was at a car boot sale today without my glasses and bought for a Fiver
an non-maintained emergency light ...any ideas what I could use it
for? .....

Oh dear. Does it work?

Non-maintained emergency lighting is a luminaire made solely for
emergency use. It is designed to come on in the event of a mains power
failure, making sure all emergency exit routes are clearly illuminated,
but will not be active as your normal day-to-day lighting system.

that is why I asked .........no good to me for domestic use .....

Why not?



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On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 15:48:23 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

was at a car boot sale today without my glasses and bought for a Fiver
an non-maintained emergency light ...any ideas what I could use it for?
.....

I have one on the stairs. It gives enough light to use the stairs safely
in an emrgency, and just enough for the hall and landing too.



naw the thing is too big and ugly I bought it to replace the outside light
at my static van ...........

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On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 18:09:57 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

"Mr Pounder Esquire" wrote in message
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Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
was at a car boot sale today without my glasses and bought for a Fiver
an non-maintained emergency light ...any ideas what I could use it
for? .....

Oh dear. Does it work?

Non-maintained emergency lighting is a luminaire made solely for
emergency use. It is designed to come on in the event of a mains power
failure, making sure all emergency exit routes are clearly illuminated,
but will not be active as your normal day-to-day lighting system.

that is why I asked .........no good to me for domestic use .....

Why not?



there are smaller more elegant domestic solutions.....this is the one I
use.....got it in a sale for under a tenner

http://www.lighthouse-torches.com/p/...y-Sensor-Light

On 28/06/2017 18:08, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Wednesday, 28 June 2017 15:48:27 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
was at a car boot sale today without my glasses and bought for a Fiver an
non-maintained emergency light ...any ideas what I could use it for?
.....

How about in a non-maintained emergency, that's what it's for.

Mmmm not in a house shirley? ....




I have three in my house. One in the cupboard under the stairs where the
consumer unit lives, one in the downstairs hall way and one on the
upstairs landing. The green glow from the LED indicating charging gives
enough light for nightly visits to the loo.

I had someone knock on my front door the last time there was a power cut
to see if I still had power as my house was lit up while everyone else
was in darkness.

The last all LED non-maintained that I purchased came from CPC when they
had an offer at around £12.

For a boot sale purchase I would be wary about the condition of the
rechargeable batteries as the unit being removed from the mains may have
just been left until Ni-Cad batteries had become flat and have become
short circuit.

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Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
"Mr Pounder Esquire" wrote in message
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Brian Gaff wrote:
Is this a serious question?
I'd have thought it was obvious.
Brian

was at a car boot sale today without my glasses and bought for a
Fiver an non-maintained emergency light ...any ideas what I could
use it for? .....

Jim is a refuge from uk.radio.amateur. If you know all about ham
radios, you are bright enough to know about emergency lighting.
I fear that he could be one of those posters that I have been warned
about - a troll!


believe me I know ALL about emergency lighting maintained or
non-maintained .....I just feel stupid not to have read the box that
the light came with and now I am struggling to find a domestic use
for it......honest not trolling

Yes, okay them.
I have a smoke detector in the hall. When activated it sounds the alarm and
two little lights come on. It's dead good.
I can't remember the last time I changed the two 9v batteries, nipping
outside now to the garage to find a cane to reach and test it......... Yes
it works.
It will probably start beeping now at 3am.

"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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Is this a serious question?
I'd have thought it was obvious.
Brian

what...stick it on ebay? ....

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Menvier-S...-/161367863964

waste of time only worth atenner ....

"alan_m" wrote in message
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On 28/06/2017 18:08, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Wednesday, 28 June 2017 15:48:27 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
was at a car boot sale today without my glasses and bought for a Fiver
an
non-maintained emergency light ...any ideas what I could use it for?
.....

How about in a non-maintained emergency, that's what it's for.

Mmmm not in a house shirley? ....




I have three in my house. One in the cupboard under the stairs where the
consumer unit lives, one in the downstairs hall way and one on the
upstairs landing. The green glow from the LED indicating charging gives
enough light for nightly visits to the loo.

I had someone knock on my front door the last time there was a power cut
to see if I still had power as my house was lit up while everyone else was
in darkness.

The last all LED non-maintained that I purchased came from CPC when they
had an offer at around £12.

For a boot sale purchase I would be wary about the condition of the
rechargeable batteries as the unit being removed from the mains may have
just been left until Ni-Cad batteries had become flat and have become
short circuit.

yes you are correct the battery will be knackered no doubt....I'll just pull
out the innards and use the case for something .....

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"alan_m" wrote in message
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On 28/06/2017 18:08, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Wednesday, 28 June 2017 15:48:27 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
was at a car boot sale today without my glasses and bought for a Fiver
an
non-maintained emergency light ...any ideas what I could use it for?
.....

How about in a non-maintained emergency, that's what it's for.

Mmmm not in a house shirley? ....




I have three in my house. One in the cupboard under the stairs where the
consumer unit lives, one in the downstairs hall way and one on the
upstairs landing. The green glow from the LED indicating charging gives
enough light for nightly visits to the loo.

I had someone knock on my front door the last time there was a power cut
to see if I still had power as my house was lit up while everyone else
was in darkness.

The last all LED non-maintained that I purchased came from CPC when they
had an offer at around £12.

For a boot sale purchase I would be wary about the condition of the
rechargeable batteries as the unit being removed from the mains may have
just been left until Ni-Cad batteries had become flat and have become
short circuit.

yes you are correct the battery will be knackered no doubt....I'll just
pull out the innards and use the case for something .....

the fitting instructions say 1992....but looks like new very old
stock...waste of £4

On 28/06/2017 18:09, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

Non-maintained emergency lighting is a luminaire made solely for emergency
use. It is designed to come on in the event of a mains power failure,
making sure all emergency exit routes are clearly illuminated, but will
not be active as your normal day-to-day lighting system.

that is why I asked .........no good to me for domestic use .....


It comes on when you have a power cut and/or the consumer unit is tripped.

It depends on which version has been purchased. Some models just side
illuminate a piece of perspex with an fire exit logo. Other models are
like bulkhead light fitting (approx 10W LED ) with an option of exit and
running man stickers.

It doesn't necessarily have to indicate an emergency exit. If the
stickers are not fitted it can be used as general purpose emergency
lighting to, say, illuminate your stairs. Maybe a good idea to fit if
someone has mobility problems so they can see what they are doing during
a power cut or as I have done to also illuminate the consumer unit if
the lighting has tripped.


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"alan_m" wrote in message
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On 28/06/2017 18:09, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

Non-maintained emergency lighting is a luminaire made solely for
emergency
use. It is designed to come on in the event of a mains power failure,
making sure all emergency exit routes are clearly illuminated, but will
not be active as your normal day-to-day lighting system.

that is why I asked .........no good to me for domestic use .....


It comes on when you have a power cut and/or the consumer unit is tripped.

It depends on which version has been purchased. Some models just side
illuminate a piece of perspex with an fire exit logo. Other models are
like bulkhead light fitting (approx 10W LED ) with an option of exit and
running man stickers.

It doesn't necessarily have to indicate an emergency exit. If the stickers
are not fitted it can be used as general purpose emergency lighting to,
say, illuminate your stairs. Maybe a good idea to fit if someone has
mobility problems so they can see what they are doing during a power cut
or as I have done to also illuminate the consumer unit if the lighting has
tripped.


this one no stickers full unit iluminates....waste of £4

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Menvier-S...-/161367863964

Jim GM4DHJ wrote:

whisky-dave wrote:

How about in a non-maintained emergency, that's what it's for.

Mmmm not in a house shirley? ....

I have two in the house (one in the cupboard under the stairs where the
CU is, the other in the cupboard above the upstairs where the UPS and IT
kit is, that's a maintained one operated by a wardrobe switch, so as as
you open the door, it comes on) and one in the shed.

alan_m wrote:

The last all LED non-maintained that I purchased came from CPC when they
had an offer at around £12.

The last one I got from CPC was switchable between
maintained/non-maintained by a wire link, the LED ones are noticeably
brighter than the T5(?) fluoro ones.

On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 17:38:33 +0100, Harry Bloomfield wrote:

was at a car boot sale today without my glasses and bought for a
Fiver
an non-maintained emergency light ...any ideas what I could use it
for?
Over your fuseboard connected, across the circuit which supplies the
light nearest the fuseboard, if that circuit trips or you lose all
mains supply it will then come on.

Yep, very handy, keep your 1st call standby stuff there as well.
Another place is above the stairs, so you don't fall down 'em, or
misjudge when you are at the bottom in the pitch dark of a power cut.

--
Cheers
Dave.

On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 19:38:35 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

The last one I got from CPC was switchable between
maintained/non-maintained by a wire link, the LED ones are noticeably
brighter than the T5(?) fluoro ones.

Bought one with the intention of using it in maintained mode in the
windowless boiler/meters/CUs room. Unfortunately it's "cool white"
which I hate, so have a warm white LED bulb and the emrgency light in
non-maintained mode.

Are there any "warm white" LED maintained emergency lights?

--
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Dave.

Dave Liquorice wrote:

Are there any "warm white" LED maintained emergency lights?

A pack of 100 warm LEDs from aliexpress for £2 and an evening's de-/re-
soldering?

https://aliexpress.com/item/LEDs/32697484434.html

On 28/06/2017 21:17, Dave Liquorice wrote:


Bought one with the intention of using it in maintained mode in the
windowless boiler/meters/CUs room. Unfortunately it's "cool white"
which I hate, so have a warm white LED bulb and the emrgency light in
non-maintained mode.

Are there any "warm white" LED maintained emergency lights?


How long do intend to stay in a windowless room in the company of the
boiler, meters and consumer unit? Surely it doesn't matter in that
location what the colour temperature for the light?

In real emergency a cool white may actually cut through smoke etc.
better than a warmer colour temperature.

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On 28/06/2017 15:48, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
was at a car boot sale today without my glasses and bought for a Fiver an
non-maintained emergency light ...any ideas what I could use it for? .....




Is it water proof?

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"ARW" wrote in message
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On 28/06/2017 15:48, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
was at a car boot sale today without my glasses and bought for a Fiver an
non-maintained emergency light ...any ideas what I could use it for?
.....




Is it water proof?

em may be shower proof under a bulkhead..why?

On Wednesday, 28 June 2017 21:34:42 UTC+1, alan_m wrote:
On 28/06/2017 21:17, Dave Liquorice wrote:


Bought one with the intention of using it in maintained mode in the
windowless boiler/meters/CUs room. Unfortunately it's "cool white"
which I hate, so have a warm white LED bulb and the emrgency light in
non-maintained mode.

Are there any "warm white" LED maintained emergency lights?


How long do intend to stay in a windowless room in the company of the
boiler, meters and consumer unit? Surely it doesn't matter in that
location what the colour temperature for the light?

In real emergency a cool white may actually cut through smoke etc.
better than a warmer colour temperature.

It doesn't, the French used yellow headlights because they gave better visbility in fog/rain.


NT

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On Wednesday, 28 June 2017 21:34:42 UTC+1, alan_m wrote:
On 28/06/2017 21:17, Dave Liquorice wrote:


Bought one with the intention of using it in maintained mode in the
windowless boiler/meters/CUs room. Unfortunately it's "cool white"
which I hate, so have a warm white LED bulb and the emrgency light in
non-maintained mode.

Are there any "warm white" LED maintained emergency lights?


How long do intend to stay in a windowless room in the company of the
boiler, meters and consumer unit? Surely it doesn't matter in that
location what the colour temperature for the light?

In real emergency a cool white may actually cut through smoke etc.
better than a warmer colour temperature.

It doesn't, the French used yellow headlights because they gave better
visbility in fog/rain.


NT

have they not stopped that now? ....

In article l.net,
"Dave Liquorice" writes:
On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 19:38:35 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

The last one I got from CPC was switchable between
maintained/non-maintained by a wire link, the LED ones are noticeably
brighter than the T5(?) fluoro ones.

Bought one with the intention of using it in maintained mode in the
windowless boiler/meters/CUs room. Unfortunately it's "cool white"
which I hate, so have a warm white LED bulb and the emrgency light in
non-maintained mode.

Are there any "warm white" LED maintained emergency lights?

Probably not because warm white LEDs are less efficient, so you
need higher power to achieve the light output.

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In article ,
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." writes:
was at a car boot sale today without my glasses and bought for a Fiver an
non-maintained emergency light ...any ideas what I could use it for? .....

Before you get too excited, do check it works.
It's probably been removed from an installation because battery
has got to replace-by date, and it's cheaper to replace the whole
thing than it is to get replacement batteries.

Such units can actually continue working fine, *providing* the
unit hasn't been left unpowered for a long time with the battery
flat.

Wire it up to charge for 24 hours, and then let it run for 3 hours.
If it dies significantly before 3 hours, probably not worth using,
although a couple of charge/discharge cycles might revive it.

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On 28/06/2017 15:48, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
was at a car boot sale today without my glasses and bought for a Fiver an
non-maintained emergency light ...any ideas what I could use it for? .....

Well if its non maintained, then you can use it for emergency lighting
and that is about it ;-)

Close to the CU is handy should you need to reset a MCB/RCD without lights.


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"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Wednesday, 28 June 2017 15:48:27 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
was at a car boot sale today without my glasses and bought for a Fiver
an
non-maintained emergency light ...any ideas what I could use it for?
.....

How about in a non-maintained emergency, that's what it's for.

Mmmm not in a house shirley? ....




I have three in my house. One in the cupboard under the stairs where the
consumer unit lives, one in the downstairs hall way and one on the
upstairs landing. The green glow from the LED indicating charging gives
enough light for nightly visits to the loo.

I had someone knock on my front door the last time there was a power cut
to see if I still had power as my house was lit up while everyone else
was in darkness.

The last all LED non-maintained that I purchased came from CPC when they
had an offer at around £12.

For a boot sale purchase I would be wary about the condition of the
rechargeable batteries as the unit being removed from the mains may have
just been left until Ni-Cad batteries had become flat and have become
short circuit.

yes you are correct the battery will be knackered no doubt....I'll just
pull out the innards and use the case for something .....

the fitting instructions say 1992....but looks like new very old
stock...waste of £4

TLC do the replacement batteries for some types...


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John.

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