I was quite impressed with a little job I saw the other day which had
used cold-lay tarmac and would like to replicate this on a few patches I
have. Talking to the blokey who did it, he said the secret was to heat
it up (kinda contradicts the name I know!), for which he used a roofing
torch.
Trouble is, it seems quite an investment to slash £100+ on a torch,
regulator and propane bottle just to lay a couple of £5 bags of tarmac,
especially as I don't have any felted roofs I could also use it on in
the near future, so I'm wondering if there are any viable alternatives
to getting all that clobber.
I always have a bottle of butane for the bbq, but it doesn't look
straighforward to adapt that for this use: Perhaps someone here knows
better though?

Cheers

On 5/13/2017 1:10 PM, GMM wrote:
I was quite impressed with a little job I saw the other day which had
used cold-lay tarmac and would like to replicate this on a few patches I
have. Talking to the blokey who did it, he said the secret was to heat
it up (kinda contradicts the name I know!), for which he used a roofing
torch.
Trouble is, it seems quite an investment to slash £100+ on a torch,
regulator and propane bottle just to lay a couple of £5 bags of tarmac,
especially as I don't have any felted roofs I could also use it on in
the near future, so I'm wondering if there are any viable alternatives
to getting all that clobber.
I always have a bottle of butane for the bbq, but it doesn't look
straighforward to adapt that for this use: Perhaps someone here knows
better though?

Cheers

Something like the bottom foot of a steel oil drum on the barbecue? Or a
drum cut in half lengthways, if it is a big one.

GMM wrote:

I was quite impressed with a little job I saw the other day which had
used cold-lay tarmac and would like to replicate this on a few patches I
have. Talking to the blokey who did it, he said the secret was to heat
it up

Wait for the missus to go out, and stick it in the oven?

On 13/05/2017 13:10, GMM wrote:
I was quite impressed with a little job I saw the other day which had
used cold-lay tarmac and would like to replicate this on a few patches I
have. Talking to the blokey who did it, he said the secret was to heat
it up (kinda contradicts the name I know!), for which he used a roofing
torch.
Trouble is, it seems quite an investment to slash £100+ on a torch,
regulator and propane bottle just to lay a couple of £5 bags of tarmac,
especially as I don't have any felted roofs I could also use it on in
the near future, so I'm wondering if there are any viable alternatives
to getting all that clobber.
I always have a bottle of butane for the bbq, but it doesn't look
straighforward to adapt that for this use: Perhaps someone here knows
better though?

ISTR machine mart did fairly cheap roofing torches... having said that
even a decent hand held torch with a 2" burner on it would do the job.

With propane cylinders you buy the first one, and then just buy the gas
each time you swap it. You may well sill be able to flog the cylinder
back to the supplier.



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Cheers,

John.

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On Saturday, 13 May 2017 13:10:10 UTC+1, GMM wrote:
I was quite impressed with a little job I saw the other day which had
used cold-lay tarmac and would like to replicate this on a few patches I
have. Talking to the blokey who did it, he said the secret was to heat
it up (kinda contradicts the name I know!), for which he used a roofing
torch.
Trouble is, it seems quite an investment to slash £100+ on a torch,
regulator and propane bottle just to lay a couple of £5 bags of tarmac,
especially as I don't have any felted roofs I could also use it on in
the near future, so I'm wondering if there are any viable alternatives
to getting all that clobber.
I always have a bottle of butane for the bbq, but it doesn't look
straighforward to adapt that for this use: Perhaps someone here knows
better though?

Cheers

Lay it cold then. The main difference is it takes days to set, keep traffic off until good & hard. To get good adhesion, paint the hole with bitumen paint before filling with cold-lay.


NT

wrote:

Lay it cold then. The main difference is it takes days to set, keep traffic off until good & hard. To get good adhesion, paint the hole with bitumen paint before filling with cold-lay.

No problem with the small area I've cold-laid, an aerosol of
spray-applied bitumen is convenient for sealing the edges beforehand.

In message , John
Rumm writes
On 13/05/2017 13:10, GMM wrote:
I was quite impressed with a little job I saw the other day which had
used cold-lay tarmac and would like to replicate this on a few patches I
have. Talking to the blokey who did it, he said the secret was to heat
it up (kinda contradicts the name I know!), for which he used a roofing
torch.
Trouble is, it seems quite an investment to slash £100+ on a torch,
regulator and propane bottle just to lay a couple of £5 bags of tarmac,
especially as I don't have any felted roofs I could also use it on in
the near future, so I'm wondering if there are any viable alternatives
to getting all that clobber.
I always have a bottle of butane for the bbq, but it doesn't look
straighforward to adapt that for this use: Perhaps someone here knows
better though?

ISTR machine mart did fairly cheap roofing torches... having said that
even a decent hand held torch with a 2" burner on it would do the job.

With propane cylinders you buy the first one, and then just buy the gas
each time you swap it. You may well sill be able to flog the cylinder
back to the supplier.

It has been suggested that an agricultural solution might be to pour on
some red diesel and set fire to it:-)

--
Tim Lamb

On Sat, 13 May 2017 13:10:07 +0100, GMM wrote:

I was quite impressed with a little job I saw the other day which had
used cold-lay tarmac and would like to replicate this on a few patches I
have. Talking to the blokey who did it, he said the secret was to heat
it up (kinda contradicts the name I know!), for which he used a roofing
torch.
Trouble is, it seems quite an investment to slash £100+ on a torch,
regulator and propane bottle just to lay a couple of £5 bags of tarmac,
especially as I don't have any felted roofs I could also use it on in
the near future, so I'm wondering if there are any viable alternatives
to getting all that clobber.
I always have a bottle of butane for the bbq, but it doesn't look
straighforward to adapt that for this use: Perhaps someone here knows
better though?

Cheers

Would one of those weed burners that crop up in Aldi promotions be any
use for this sort of thing?

On 13/05/2017 13:24, newshound wrote:
On 5/13/2017 1:10 PM, GMM wrote:
I was quite impressed with a little job I saw the other day which had
used cold-lay tarmac and would like to replicate this on a few patches
I have. Talking to the blokey who did it, he said the secret was to
heat it up (kinda contradicts the name I know!), for which he used a
roofing torch.
Trouble is, it seems quite an investment to slash £100+ on a torch,
regulator and propane bottle just to lay a couple of £5 bags of
tarmac, especially as I don't have any felted roofs I could also use
it on in the near future, so I'm wondering if there are any viable
alternatives to getting all that clobber.
I always have a bottle of butane for the bbq, but it doesn't look
straighforward to adapt that for this use: Perhaps someone here knows
better though?

Cheers

Something like the bottom foot of a steel oil drum on the barbecue? Or a
drum cut in half lengthways, if it is a big one.

I suspect my bbq would collase under the weight of a bag of cold
lay.....Maybe I need a new bbq!

On 13/05/2017 16:13, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , John
Rumm writes
On 13/05/2017 13:10, GMM wrote:
I was quite impressed with a little job I saw the other day which had
used cold-lay tarmac and would like to replicate this on a few patches I
have. Talking to the blokey who did it, he said the secret was to heat
it up (kinda contradicts the name I know!), for which he used a roofing
torch.
Trouble is, it seems quite an investment to slash £100+ on a torch,
regulator and propane bottle just to lay a couple of £5 bags of tarmac,
especially as I don't have any felted roofs I could also use it on in
the near future, so I'm wondering if there are any viable alternatives
to getting all that clobber.
I always have a bottle of butane for the bbq, but it doesn't look
straighforward to adapt that for this use: Perhaps someone here knows
better though?

ISTR machine mart did fairly cheap roofing torches... having said that
even a decent hand held torch with a 2" burner on it would do the job.

With propane cylinders you buy the first one, and then just buy the
gas each time you swap it. You may well sill be able to flog the
cylinder back to the supplier.

It has been suggested that an agricultural solution might be to pour on
some red diesel and set fire to it:-)

And who doesn't like a little danger in their work? :-)

On 13/05/2017 14:40, wrote:
On Saturday, 13 May 2017 13:10:10 UTC+1, GMM wrote:
I was quite impressed with a little job I saw the other day which had
used cold-lay tarmac and would like to replicate this on a few patches I
have. Talking to the blokey who did it, he said the secret was to heat
it up (kinda contradicts the name I know!), for which he used a roofing
torch.
Trouble is, it seems quite an investment to slash £100+ on a torch,
regulator and propane bottle just to lay a couple of £5 bags of tarmac,
especially as I don't have any felted roofs I could also use it on in
the near future, so I'm wondering if there are any viable alternatives
to getting all that clobber.
I always have a bottle of butane for the bbq, but it doesn't look
straighforward to adapt that for this use: Perhaps someone here knows
better though?

Cheers

Lay it cold then. The main difference is it takes days to set, keep traffic off until good & hard. To get good adhesion, paint the hole with bitumen paint before filling with cold-lay.


NT

I think the point is that warming it up allows the bitumen component to
flow a bit so you get better compaction when laying

On 13/05/2017 20:01, Steve wrote:
On Sat, 13 May 2017 13:10:07 +0100, GMM wrote:

I was quite impressed with a little job I saw the other day which had
used cold-lay tarmac and would like to replicate this on a few patches I
have. Talking to the blokey who did it, he said the secret was to heat
it up (kinda contradicts the name I know!), for which he used a roofing
torch.
Trouble is, it seems quite an investment to slash £100+ on a torch,
regulator and propane bottle just to lay a couple of £5 bags of tarmac,
especially as I don't have any felted roofs I could also use it on in
the near future, so I'm wondering if there are any viable alternatives
to getting all that clobber.
I always have a bottle of butane for the bbq, but it doesn't look
straighforward to adapt that for this use: Perhaps someone here knows
better though?

Cheers

Would one of those weed burners that crop up in Aldi promotions be any
use for this sort of thing?

Thanks - I'll try to look into that, though I wonder if they generate
enough heat for this sort of application.

GMM wrote:
I was quite impressed with a little job I saw the other day which had
used cold-lay tarmac and would like to replicate this on a few
patches I have. Talking to the blokey who did it, he said the secret
was to heat it up (kinda contradicts the name I know!), for which he
used a roofing torch.
Trouble is, it seems quite an investment to slash £100+ on a torch,
regulator and propane bottle just to lay a couple of £5 bags of
tarmac, especially as I don't have any felted roofs I could also use
it on in the near future, so I'm wondering if there are any viable
alternatives to getting all that clobber.
I always have a bottle of butane for the bbq, but it doesn't look
straighforward to adapt that for this use: Perhaps someone here knows
better though?

Cheers

It doesn't require much heat to get it to do it's thing. Just use a normal
heatgun that is used to strip paint (think a beefed up hairdryer) and this
will do the trick.

Saying that, I've laid lots of this stuff cold and never had a problem, the
trick, if it is one, is to bang it in with a lump hammer once you've got it
something like level

On Sun, 14 May 2017 19:49:29 +0100, Phil L wrote:

GMM wrote:
I was quite impressed with a little job I saw the other day which had
used cold-lay tarmac and would like to replicate this on a few patches
I have. Talking to the blokey who did it, he said the secret was to
heat it up (kinda contradicts the name I know!), for which he used a
roofing torch.
Trouble is, it seems quite an investment to slash £100+ on a torch,
regulator and propane bottle just to lay a couple of £5 bags of tarmac,
especially as I don't have any felted roofs I could also use it on in
the near future, so I'm wondering if there are any viable alternatives
to getting all that clobber.
I always have a bottle of butane for the bbq, but it doesn't look
straighforward to adapt that for this use: Perhaps someone here knows
better though?

Cheers

It doesn't require much heat to get it to do it's thing. Just use a
normal heatgun that is used to strip paint (think a beefed up hairdryer)
and this will do the trick.

Saying that, I've laid lots of this stuff cold and never had a problem,
the trick, if it is one, is to bang it in with a lump hammer once you've
got it something like level

and not to lay it too thick in one go - build it up gradually if its a
deepish hole.

On 13/05/2017 13:10, GMM wrote:
I was quite impressed with a little job I saw the other day which had
used cold-lay tarmac and would like to replicate this on a few patches I
have. Talking to the blokey who did it, he said the secret was to heat
it up (kinda contradicts the name I know!), for which he used a roofing
torch.
Trouble is, it seems quite an investment to slash £100+ on a torch,
regulator and propane bottle just to lay a couple of £5 bags of tarmac,
especially as I don't have any felted roofs I could also use it on in
the near future, so I'm wondering if there are any viable alternatives
to getting all that clobber.
I always have a bottle of butane for the bbq, but it doesn't look
straighforward to adapt that for this use: Perhaps someone here knows
better though?

Cheers

I have used this cold lay bitmac a few times now. If its really cold
just stick the whole bag in hot water before opening it.

Mike