I'm old enough to remember the joy of new potatoes, Jersey Royals,
Cyprus new, or whatever. Now everything tastes of ****, whether it's
from Waitrose or the farmers' market. The only decent tasting spuds are
frozen mash or McCain's Simply Gorgeous chips. I've grown the most
delicious crop in builders buckets outside my back door, so what's so
bloody difficult?
And don't get me started about apples......

In message , Stuart Noble
writes
I'm old enough to remember the joy of new potatoes, Jersey Royals,
Cyprus new, or whatever. Now everything tastes of ****, whether it's
from Waitrose or the farmers' market. The only decent tasting spuds are
frozen mash or McCain's Simply Gorgeous chips. I've grown the most
delicious crop in builders buckets outside my back door, so what's so
bloody difficult?
And don't get me started about apples......

Ping Chris H..

You may be remembering back to the time they were shipped packed in
soil. At the risk of alerting TNP, this might have something to do with
the EU and disease control.

--
Tim Lamb

In article ,
Stuart Noble wrote:
I'm old enough to remember the joy of new potatoes, Jersey Royals,
Cyprus new, or whatever. Now everything tastes of ****, whether it's
from Waitrose or the farmers' market. The only decent tasting spuds are
frozen mash or McCain's Simply Gorgeous chips. I've grown the most
delicious crop in builders buckets outside my back door, so what's so
bloody difficult?
And don't get me started about apples......

Last seasons Jersey Royals were just as tasty as ever, here. But so called
new anything like that if forced is often tasteless. Thinking of out of
season stawberries. Look great but taste of nothing.

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On 12/05/17 16:00, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Stuart Noble wrote:
I'm old enough to remember the joy of new potatoes, Jersey Royals,
Cyprus new, or whatever. Now everything tastes of ****, whether it's
from Waitrose or the farmers' market. The only decent tasting spuds are
frozen mash or McCain's Simply Gorgeous chips. I've grown the most
delicious crop in builders buckets outside my back door, so what's so
bloody difficult?
And don't get me started about apples......

Last seasons Jersey Royals were just as tasty as ever, here. But so called
new anything like that if forced is often tasteless. Thinking of out of
season stawberries. Look great but taste of nothing.

"Just as tasty as ever"? Then you've never tasted real Jersey Royals.

They lost their flavour at least 5 years ago - maybe 10 - when seaweed
stopped being used as a fertiliser. There may be some farmers who still
use it, and if so it might be worth looking for these.

Just Google "Jersey Royals" and "seaweed". You'll find numerous pages
and comments from those who miss the flavour that Jersey Royals used to
have.

--

Jeff

On 12/05/2017 15:05, Stuart Noble wrote:
I'm old enough to remember the joy of new potatoes, Jersey Royals,
Cyprus new, or whatever. Now everything tastes of ****, whether it's
from Waitrose or the farmers' market. The only decent tasting spuds are
frozen mash or McCain's Simply Gorgeous chips. I've grown the most
delicious crop in builders buckets outside my back door, so what's so
bloody difficult?
And don't get me started about apples......


+1

Its down to the public "demanding" class one fruit and veg necessitating
farmers to only plant varieties where taste has been sacrificed in
favour of the perfect colour and shape.

I've found recently that fruit from South Africa has had a far superior
taste to that grown by our partners in the EU. Most tasteless stuff
seems to be grown in France, Spain and Italy with perhaps the
Netherlands leading the way with tasteless salad crops.

And then there is the green fruit on sale that starts going rotten long
before it can ripen!

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On 12/05/2017 15:05, Stuart Noble wrote:
I'm old enough to remember the joy of new potatoes, Jersey Royals,
Cyprus new, or whatever. Now everything tastes of ****, whether it's
from Waitrose or the farmers' market. The only decent tasting spuds are
frozen mash or McCain's Simply Gorgeous chips. I've grown the most
delicious crop in builders buckets outside my back door, so what's so
bloody difficult?
And don't get me started about apples......

Lidl Jersey royals taste fine.

On 12/05/2017 16:22, dennis@home wrote:

Lidl Jersey royals taste fine.



I hope so as I purchased some from Lidl two hours ago

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On 12/05/2017 16:43, alan_m wrote:
On 12/05/2017 16:22, dennis@home wrote:

Lidl Jersey royals taste fine.



I hope so as I purchased some from Lidl two hours ago



Having just eaten some - just a hint of the taste I remember.

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On 12/05/2017 20:03, alan_m wrote:
On 12/05/2017 16:43, alan_m wrote:
On 12/05/2017 16:22, dennis@home wrote:

Lidl Jersey royals taste fine.



I hope so as I purchased some from Lidl two hours ago



Having just eaten some - just a hint of the taste I remember.


What you really want are Jersey mids but I haven't seen any this year.

On 12/05/2017 15:05, Stuart Noble wrote:
I'm old enough to remember the joy of new potatoes, Jersey Royals,
Cyprus new, or whatever. Now everything tastes of ****, whether it's
from Waitrose or the farmers' market. The only decent tasting spuds are
frozen mash or McCain's Simply Gorgeous chips. I've grown the most
delicious crop in builders buckets outside my back door, so what's so
bloody difficult?

They may well have been stored in a chilled nitrogen atmosphere for
heaven knows how long before being offered for sale.

Early new spuds are usually better than stored maincrop and locally
grown ones of any sort fresh from your own garden taste much better.

And don't get me started about apples......

Likewise. The apples sold in supermarkets at this time of year taste
like mushy cardboard and have been sat in nitrogen since harvest. A
major grower was done for H&S offences relating to their storage system:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-33200388

It isn't surprising that supermarket varieties largely chosen for
maximum yield, uniform size, robust handling thick skins and incredibly
long shelf life don't taste particularly good.

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On Friday, 12 May 2017 16:44:30 UTC+1, Martin Brown wrote:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-33200388

It isn't surprising that supermarket varieties largely chosen for
maximum yield, uniform size, robust handling thick skins and incredibly
long shelf life don't taste particularly good.

I don;t eat many apples but I'm pretty sure my mum that did used to say the goldern delicious had no taste and they came from France.

If there's anyone that knows about apples maybe they can give their top 5 and where they are grown.

On 12/05/2017 16:50, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 12 May 2017 16:44:30 UTC+1, Martin Brown wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-33200388

It isn't surprising that supermarket varieties largely chosen for
maximum yield, uniform size, robust handling thick skins and incredibly
long shelf life don't taste particularly good.

I don;t eat many apples but I'm pretty sure my mum that did used to say the goldern delicious had no taste and they came from France.

I haven't seen them for ages.

If there's anyone that knows about apples maybe they can give their top 5 and where they are grown.

Coxes are still available in season (just finished). Mostly English, but
sometimes New Zealand ones are available for a bit at the end of the season.

Gala is OK, but I'm not all that fussy.

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On Friday, 12 May 2017 19:39:12 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 12/05/2017 16:50, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 12 May 2017 16:44:30 UTC+1, Martin Brown wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-33200388

I don;t eat many apples but I'm pretty sure my mum that did used to say the goldern delicious had no taste and they came from France.

I haven't seen them for ages.

If there's anyone that knows about apples maybe they can give their top 5 and where they are grown.

Coxes are still available in season (just finished). Mostly English, but
sometimes New Zealand ones are available for a bit at the end of the season.

Gala is OK, but I'm not all that fussy.

Goldens are a bit bland, especially if French, but ok to eat. Discovery and red delicious are not. Cox, worcester pearmain, yum.


NT

On 12/05/2017 16:50, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 12 May 2017 16:44:30 UTC+1, Martin Brown wrote:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-33200388

It isn't surprising that supermarket varieties largely chosen for
maximum yield, uniform size, robust handling thick skins and incredibly
long shelf life don't taste particularly good.

I don;t eat many apples but I'm pretty sure my mum that did used to say the goldern delicious had no taste and they came from France.

If there's anyone that knows about apples maybe they can give their top 5 and where they are grown.



Dunns seedlings, UK, but hard to find and very short season.
Cox
Empire
Jazz
Braeburn
Comice pears

On 12/05/2017 16:50, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 12 May 2017 16:44:30 UTC+1, Martin Brown wrote:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-33200388

It isn't surprising that supermarket varieties largely chosen for
maximum yield, uniform size, robust handling thick skins and
incredibly long shelf life don't taste particularly good.

I don;t eat many apples but I'm pretty sure my mum that did used to
say the goldern delicious had no taste and they came from France.

Although even golden delicious has some taste if you grow it on a
rootstock that isn't designed to just pump them full of water.

If there's anyone that knows about apples maybe they can give their
top 5 and where they are grown.

Depends what you want them for. Some of the early ones are so fragile
that you pretty much have to eat them as they ripen off the tree. They
won't travel and they won't keep so commercially they are a no go.

Discovery, Katy or Beauty of Bath are OK as a early apples.
(They don't keep)
Egremont Russett is one of the better common storable varieties.
Sunset isn't a bad substitute for the more famous Cox's Orange Pippin.
And Bramley as a cooking apple.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

On 12/05/2017 16:44, Martin Brown wrote:
On 12/05/2017 15:05, Stuart Noble wrote:
I'm old enough to remember the joy of new potatoes, Jersey Royals,
Cyprus new, or whatever. Now everything tastes of ****, whether it's
from Waitrose or the farmers' market. The only decent tasting spuds are
frozen mash or McCain's Simply Gorgeous chips. I've grown the most
delicious crop in builders buckets outside my back door, so what's so
bloody difficult?

They may well have been stored in a chilled nitrogen atmosphere for
heaven knows how long before being offered for sale.


I reckon a lot of supermarket, and especially Lidl/Aldi, fruit and veg
arrives for sale from cold storage. It's not that good to start with,
and goes off very quickly.

Apart from things like carrots, onions and potato, most of the veg I buy
is frozen.

--
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In message , RJH writes
On 12/05/2017 16:44, Martin Brown wrote:
On 12/05/2017 15:05, Stuart Noble wrote:
I'm old enough to remember the joy of new potatoes, Jersey Royals,
Cyprus new, or whatever. Now everything tastes of ****, whether it's
from Waitrose or the farmers' market. The only decent tasting spuds are
frozen mash or McCain's Simply Gorgeous chips. I've grown the most
delicious crop in builders buckets outside my back door, so what's so
bloody difficult?

They may well have been stored in a chilled nitrogen atmosphere for
heaven knows how long before being offered for sale.


I reckon a lot of supermarket, and especially Lidl/Aldi, fruit and veg
arrives for sale from cold storage. It's not that good to start with,
and goes off very quickly.

Umm. My sister grew horticultural stuff for sale on a market stall.
There was a noticeable difference in the keeping performance of washed
and unwashed veg.

Apart from things like carrots, onions and potato, most of the veg I
buy is frozen.


--
Tim Lamb

On 13/05/2017 10:02, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , RJH writes
On 12/05/2017 16:44, Martin Brown wrote:
On 12/05/2017 15:05, Stuart Noble wrote:
I'm old enough to remember the joy of new potatoes, Jersey Royals,
Cyprus new, or whatever. Now everything tastes of ****, whether it's
from Waitrose or the farmers' market. The only decent tasting spuds are
frozen mash or McCain's Simply Gorgeous chips. I've grown the most
delicious crop in builders buckets outside my back door, so what's so
bloody difficult?

They may well have been stored in a chilled nitrogen atmosphere for
heaven knows how long before being offered for sale.


I reckon a lot of supermarket, and especially Lidl/Aldi, fruit and veg
arrives for sale from cold storage. It's not that good to start with,
and goes off very quickly.

Umm. My sister grew horticultural stuff for sale on a market stall.
There was a noticeable difference in the keeping performance of washed
and unwashed veg.


Ah OK, have to say I hadn't thought of that.


--
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On 13/05/2017 10:02, Tim Lamb wrote:

..

Umm. My sister grew horticultural stuff for sale on a market stall.
There was a noticeable difference in the keeping performance of washed
and unwashed veg.

There seems to be a 'fad' for selling tomatoes on the vine, leaving the
carrot leaves attached to the carrots, selling Brussel sprouts still on
the stalk, oranges with a stalk and two leaves etc. Often these are
sold at a premium price. In reality all these do is to reduce the
keeping life but removing moisture more quickly from the fruit/veg.


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"alan_m" wrote in message
...
On 13/05/2017 10:02, Tim Lamb wrote:

.

Umm. My sister grew horticultural stuff for sale on a market stall.
There was a noticeable difference in the keeping performance of washed
and unwashed veg.

There seems to be a 'fad' for selling tomatoes on the vine, leaving the
carrot leaves attached to the carrots, selling Brussel sprouts still on
the stalk, oranges with a stalk and two leaves etc. Often these are sold
at a premium price. In reality all these do is to reduce the keeping life
but removing moisture more quickly from the fruit/veg.

I don’t believe that with the tomatoes.

On Fri, 12 May 2017 15:05:00 +0100
Stuart Noble wrote:

I'm old enough to remember the joy of new potatoes, Jersey Royals,
Cyprus new, or whatever. Now everything tastes of ****, whether it's
from Waitrose or the farmers' market. The only decent tasting spuds
are frozen mash or McCain's Simply Gorgeous chips. I've grown the
most delicious crop in builders buckets outside my back door, so
what's so bloody difficult?
And don't get me started about apples......

The one that I can never find tasting any good now is the radish. When
I were little, they had a lovely 'bite', now they taste of nothing.
We find McCain's chips to be very good, certainly much better than the
local chippy's.

--
Davey.

On 12/05/2017 17:10, Davey wrote:
On Fri, 12 May 2017 15:05:00 +0100
Stuart Noble wrote:

I'm old enough to remember the joy of new potatoes, Jersey Royals,
Cyprus new, or whatever. Now everything tastes of ****, whether it's
from Waitrose or the farmers' market. The only decent tasting spuds
are frozen mash or McCain's Simply Gorgeous chips. I've grown the
most delicious crop in builders buckets outside my back door, so
what's so bloody difficult?
And don't get me started about apples......

The one that I can never find tasting any good now is the radish. When

They are dead easy to grow. Clear a bit of ground and put the seed in.

Water in and wait a while. More appropriate to urg but sort of DIY.

I were little, they had a lovely 'bite', now they taste of nothing.
We find McCain's chips to be very good, certainly much better than the
local chippy's.

Find a better less local chippy then!

--
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Martin Brown

On Fri, 12 May 2017 17:41:50 +0100
Martin Brown wrote:

I were little, they had a lovely 'bite', now they taste of nothing.
We find McCain's chips to be very good, certainly much better than
the local chippy's.

Find a better less local chippy then!

No point. They are all in different towns, and with McCain's at home,
why bother?

--
Davey.

On 12/05/2017 17:41, Martin Brown wrote:

I were little, they had a lovely 'bite', now they taste of nothing.
We find McCain's chips to be very good, certainly much better than the
local chippy's.

Find a better less local chippy then!


I don't like chip shop chips any more, there is one chippy near here
that does nice oven chips.

In message , Martin Brown
writes
On 12/05/2017 17:10, Davey wrote:
On Fri, 12 May 2017 15:05:00 +0100
Stuart Noble wrote:

I'm old enough to remember the joy of new potatoes, Jersey Royals,
Cyprus new, or whatever. Now everything tastes of ****, whether it's
from Waitrose or the farmers' market. The only decent tasting spuds
are frozen mash or McCain's Simply Gorgeous chips. I've grown the
most delicious crop in builders buckets outside my back door, so
what's so bloody difficult?
And don't get me started about apples......

The one that I can never find tasting any good now is the radish. When

They are dead easy to grow. Clear a bit of ground and put the seed in.

Water in and wait a while. More appropriate to urg but sort of DIY.

Hmm.. excellent slug/snail food. Not sure which group that fits.

I were little, they had a lovely 'bite', now they taste of nothing.
We find McCain's chips to be very good, certainly much better than the
local chippy's.

Find a better less local chippy then!


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"Stuart Noble" wrote in message
...
I'm old enough to remember the joy of new potatoes, Jersey Royals, Cyprus
new, or whatever. Now everything tastes of ****, whether it's from
Waitrose or the farmers' market. The only decent tasting spuds are frozen
mash or McCain's Simply Gorgeous chips. I've grown the most delicious crop
in builders buckets outside my back door, so what's so bloody difficult?
And don't get me started about apples......

Stuart Noble wrote

I'm old enough to remember the joy of new potatoes, Jersey Royals, Cyprus
new, or whatever. Now everything tastes of ****, whether it's from
Waitrose or the farmers' market.

The Desirees I use dont.

The only decent tasting spuds are frozen mash or McCain's Simply Gorgeous
chips.

I've grown the most delicious crop in builders buckets outside my back
door,

Interesting idea. I have a pile of pickers buckets, might try that.

so what's so bloody difficult?

They have to move the potatoes from where they are
grown to where they are sold and consumed, you dont.

And don't get me started about apples......

Mine are fine too. Usually eat granny smiths, but not exclusively.

In article ,
Stuart Noble wrote:
I'm old enough to remember the joy of new potatoes, Jersey Royals,
Cyprus new, or whatever. Now everything tastes of ****, whether it's
from Waitrose or the farmers' market. The only decent tasting spuds are
frozen mash or McCain's Simply Gorgeous chips. I've grown the most
delicious crop in builders buckets outside my back door, so what's so
bloody difficult?
And don't get me started about apples......

It always suprises me that people accept that all their other senses
deteriorate with age but then complain that food doesn't taste like it
used to. Just accept that you are getting older, your sense of taste is
less sensitive and so you need stronger flavourings to give the same
effect.

Alan

--


Using an ARMX6

In article ,
Alan Dawes wrote:
In article ,
Stuart Noble wrote:
I'm old enough to remember the joy of new potatoes, Jersey Royals,
Cyprus new, or whatever. Now everything tastes of ****, whether it's
from Waitrose or the farmers' market. The only decent tasting spuds are
frozen mash or McCain's Simply Gorgeous chips. I've grown the most
delicious crop in builders buckets outside my back door, so what's so
bloody difficult?
And don't get me started about apples......

It always suprises me that people accept that all their other senses
deteriorate with age but then complain that food doesn't taste like it
used to. Just accept that you are getting older, your sense of taste is
less sensitive and so you need stronger flavourings to give the same
effect.

It doesn't always work like that. I find that some foods are now too
strongly flavoured. Of course, it may be that they really are - but I can
now not cope with chilli.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England

On 13/05/2017 17:29, Alan Dawes wrote:

It always suprises me that people accept that all their other senses
deteriorate with age but then complain that food doesn't taste like it
used to. Just accept that you are getting older, your sense of taste is
less sensitive and so you need stronger flavourings to give the same
effect.


Yes the sense of taste do change BUT occasionally you can find that the
fruit/veg on sale do still taste as you remember it.

Part of the problem with many processed foods is the taste of the main
ingredients is masked with either salt or sugar.


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On 13/05/2017 17:29, Alan Dawes wrote:
In article ,
Stuart Noble wrote:
I'm old enough to remember the joy of new potatoes, Jersey Royals,
Cyprus new, or whatever. Now everything tastes of ****, whether it's
from Waitrose or the farmers' market. The only decent tasting spuds are
frozen mash or McCain's Simply Gorgeous chips. I've grown the most
delicious crop in builders buckets outside my back door, so what's so
bloody difficult?
And don't get me started about apples......

It always suprises me that people accept that all their other senses
deteriorate with age but then complain that food doesn't taste like it
used to. Just accept that you are getting older, your sense of taste is
less sensitive and so you need stronger flavourings to give the same
effect.

Alan


Quite the opposite. I'm acutely sensitive to whatever they're doing to
spuds (mould?), and I've never been a fan of strong flavours (unlike the
current generation, whose taste buds seem to be shot to pieces)

On Sun, 14 May 2017 09:32:03 +0100, Stuart Noble wrote:

On 13/05/2017 17:29, Alan Dawes wrote:
In article ,
Stuart Noble wrote:
I'm old enough to remember the joy of new potatoes, Jersey Royals,
Cyprus new, or whatever. Now everything tastes of ****, whether it's
from Waitrose or the farmers' market. The only decent tasting spuds
are frozen mash or McCain's Simply Gorgeous chips. I've grown the most
delicious crop in builders buckets outside my back door, so what's so
bloody difficult?
And don't get me started about apples......

It always suprises me that people accept that all their other senses
deteriorate with age but then complain that food doesn't taste like it
used to. Just accept that you are getting older, your sense of taste is
less sensitive and so you need stronger flavourings to give the same
effect.

Alan


Quite the opposite. I'm acutely sensitive to whatever they're doing to
spuds (mould?), and I've never been a fan of strong flavours (unlike the
current generation, whose taste buds seem to be shot to pieces)

Our sense of taste and smell (just variations on the same basic chemical
sensing of our environment) are, evolutionarily speaking, the most
ancient of all our senses. Without researching the subject, I rather
think our chemical sensory system is the most robust of the senses and
least likely to deteriorate with age.

This sense originated with our single celled ancestors long before
evolutionary pressure caused them to clump together to create the
earliest of Earth's multicellular life forms so it should come as no
surprise as to why odours and flavours will so often trigger early
memories thought lost to the mists of time.

I would agree that the experience of poorer flavours in modern
supermarket produce is more to do with the "Baby thrown out with the
bathwater" effect of breeding characteristics aimed at making such
produce more durable in storage rather than due to our sense of taste and
smell fading with age.

BTW, I've never known that abomination called "French Golden Delicious"
to taste of anything other than wet cardboard and always assumed that the
word "Delicious" in this context was being used sarcastically by the
French for their "For export to the UK only" class of produce. :-(

--
Johnny B Good

Johnny B Good wrote on 14/05/2017 :
Our sense of taste and smell (just variations on the same basic chemical
sensing of our environment) are, evolutionarily speaking, the most
ancient of all our senses. Without researching the subject, I rather
think our chemical sensory system is the most robust of the senses and
least likely to deteriorate with age.

I agree with that. I can't enjoy anything strongly flavoured at all,
curries, strong chilli's, raw onions are a complete no, no for me. I
always hated the taste or smell of vinegar. Could not even cope well
with anyone using it on their plate near me, but recently my taste must
have changed for now I have begun using it myself.

Food has certainly changed in flavour and taste in my lifetime, I judge
this by the fact that some food does have taste I remember, but some is
just bland. I used to love Jersey spuds, but they are tasteless now, no
better than any other spuds.

On 12/05/2017 15:05, Stuart Noble wrote:
I'm old enough to remember the joy of new potatoes, Jersey Royals,
Cyprus new, or whatever. Now everything tastes of ****, whether it's
from Waitrose or the farmers' market. The only decent tasting spuds
are frozen mash or McCain's Simply Gorgeous chips. I've grown the
most delicious crop in builders buckets outside my back door, so
what's so bloody difficult? And don't get me started about
apples......

I have found that with age my taste buds have deteriorated. I'm sure
yours have too.

I recall in my teens finding Stilton horribly strong and preferring
mild cheddar. Now ....................

On 14/05/2017 11:10, Fredxxx wrote:
On 12/05/2017 15:05, Stuart Noble wrote:
I'm old enough to remember the joy of new potatoes, Jersey Royals,
Cyprus new, or whatever. Now everything tastes of ****, whether it's
from Waitrose or the farmers' market. The only decent tasting spuds
are frozen mash or McCain's Simply Gorgeous chips. I've grown the
most delicious crop in builders buckets outside my back door, so
what's so bloody difficult? And don't get me started about
apples......

I have found that with age my taste buds have deteriorated. I'm sure
yours have too.

I recall in my teens finding Stilton horribly strong and preferring
mild cheddar. Now ....................

Chilli and chorizo with everything just masks a multitude of sins. On
cutting a boiled spud in half I've detected a spongey texture which
looks and tastes most unpleasant, but might just be edible if smothered
in a jar of Lloyd Grossman.

In message , Stuart Noble
writes
On 14/05/2017 11:10, Fredxxx wrote:
On 12/05/2017 15:05, Stuart Noble wrote:
I'm old enough to remember the joy of new potatoes, Jersey Royals,
Cyprus new, or whatever. Now everything tastes of ****, whether it's
from Waitrose or the farmers' market. The only decent tasting spuds
are frozen mash or McCain's Simply Gorgeous chips. I've grown the
most delicious crop in builders buckets outside my back door, so
what's so bloody difficult? And don't get me started about
apples......

I have found that with age my taste buds have deteriorated. I'm sure
yours have too.

I recall in my teens finding Stilton horribly strong and preferring
mild cheddar. Now ....................

Chilli and chorizo with everything just masks a multitude of sins. On
cutting a boiled spud in half I've detected a spongey texture which
looks and tastes most unpleasant, but might just be edible if smothered
in a jar of Lloyd Grossman.

Different spuds have different growing/eating/cooking/disease resistance
characteristics.

Growers are looking for yield/shape/size/marketability/disease
resistance. I don't think eating quality rates very high:-(

Have a look he-

http://varieties.ahdb.org.uk/


--
Tim Lamb

On 14/05/2017 11:57, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Stuart Noble
writes
On 14/05/2017 11:10, Fredxxx wrote:
On 12/05/2017 15:05, Stuart Noble wrote:
I'm old enough to remember the joy of new potatoes, Jersey Royals,
Cyprus new, or whatever. Now everything tastes of ****, whether it's
from Waitrose or the farmers' market. The only decent tasting spuds
are frozen mash or McCain's Simply Gorgeous chips. I've grown the
most delicious crop in builders buckets outside my back door, so
what's so bloody difficult? And don't get me started about
apples......

I have found that with age my taste buds have deteriorated. I'm sure
yours have too.

I recall in my teens finding Stilton horribly strong and preferring
mild cheddar. Now ....................

Chilli and chorizo with everything just masks a multitude of sins. On
cutting a boiled spud in half I've detected a spongey texture which
looks and tastes most unpleasant, but might just be edible if
smothered in a jar of Lloyd Grossman.

Different spuds have different growing/eating/cooking/disease resistance
characteristics.

Growers are looking for yield/shape/size/marketability/disease
resistance. I don't think eating quality rates very high:-(

They are all quality.
Quality does not equate to taste only in fit for the purpose that they
have decided on.
It is a common mistake to think quality is taste when it is not. Taste
is one of many qualities.


Have a look he-

http://varieties.ahdb.org.uk/

On Sun, 14 May 2017 13:05:34 +0100, dennis@home wrote:

====snip====


They are all quality.
Quality does not equate to taste only in fit for the purpose that they
have decided on.
It is a common mistake to think quality is taste when it is not. Taste
is one of many qualities.

I rather think you accidentally left out the word "only" in that last
sentence.


Have a look he-

http://varieties.ahdb.org.uk/


I had a quick look at that web page but couldn't see any obvious
references to flavour related quality. Were there any or was that the
point you were trying to make?

--
Johnny B Good

Fredxxx wrote on 14/05/2017 :
I recall in my teens finding Stilton horribly strong and preferring
mild cheddar. Now ....................

I still cannot enjoy any but the very mild cheeses.

I have never had Brie before, but my partner asked me to collect some
recently, because she said she liked it.

It stank the fridge out, then despite being triple bagged - it stank
the entire house out, such was the strength of the pong - I had to
throw it in the bin outside. Still triple wrapped - The fridge had to
be washed out and I could still smell it 50 yards away at the far end
of the garden.

On 16/05/2017 22:22, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Fredxxx wrote on 14/05/2017 :
I recall in my teens finding Stilton horribly strong and preferring
mild cheddar. Now ....................

I still cannot enjoy any but the very mild cheeses.

I have never had Brie before, but my partner asked me to collect some
recently, because she said she liked it.

It stank the fridge out, then despite being triple bagged - it stank the
entire house out, such was the strength of the pong - I had to throw it
in the bin outside. Still triple wrapped - The fridge had to be washed
out and I could still smell it 50 yards away at the far end of the garden.

Doesn't sound like Brie to me!