hTrying to phone my neighbour,. No reply. eventually phoned him on te
landline, and invited him for dinner.

"Why didn't you answer your I phone?"
"It didn't ring"

Sure enough, it doesn't ring.

Went through every single menu, discover hundreds of combinations of 'I
don't want this phone to ring' and turn them all off.

It still doesn't ring.

two and half hours later I google "My ****ing i-phone won't ring"

And discover that unlike *EVERY OTHER FUNCTION* on the i-phone, there
is a PHYSICAL SWITCH to turn the ringer off. Nothing in any menu
indicated it was turned off. Nor did it come with any manual.

There are people here who say that the linux command line is old
fashioned and opaque. They have obviously never set up an I phone.

So that's 5 hours in total trying to solve basic simple problems like
'how the **** do I insert the sim card? and 'How the **** do I get this
heap of unadulterated wombat turds to do the MOST BASIC THING, like ring...

Even my nokia 102 is crap. The old nokias had a green telephone that you
pressed to answer a call, and a red telephone that you pressed to end
the call. Pretty obvious really. the 102 doesn't. It has an unside down
bath symbol and what looks like a speedometer. They bear no relationship
to making a call whatsoever. I am after over a year still not sure which
one does what and often cuts people off instead of answering the
phone.But that doesnt happen much anyway, because its got a vodaphone
sim in, and there is **** all vodaphone coverage.

What a delight now me mate has gone home and I know that if I want the
internet, I have a well thougfht out Linux machine that actually works
with a reasonably sane user interface, and a telepone handset connected
to copper that always ring and always gets me connected to the person I
am calling...

....Unless they have an I-phone of course.



--
The biggest threat to humanity comes from socialism, which has utterly
diverted our attention away from what really matters to our existential
survival, to indulging in navel gazing and faux moral investigations
into what the world ought to be, whilst we fail utterly to deal with
what it actually is.

On Friday, 5 May 2017 23:16:27 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
hTrying to phone my neighbour,. No reply. eventually phoned him on te
landline, and invited him for dinner.

"Why didn't you answer your I phone?"
"It didn't ring"

Sure enough, it doesn't ring.

Went through every single menu, discover hundreds of combinations of 'I
don't want this phone to ring' and turn them all off.

It still doesn't ring.

two and half hours later I google "My ****ing i-phone won't ring"

And discover that unlike *EVERY OTHER FUNCTION* on the i-phone, there
is a PHYSICAL SWITCH to turn the ringer off. Nothing in any menu
indicated it was turned off. Nor did it come with any manual.

There are people here who say that the linux command line is old
fashioned and opaque. They have obviously never set up an I phone.

So that's 5 hours in total trying to solve basic simple problems like
'how the **** do I insert the sim card? and 'How the **** do I get this
heap of unadulterated wombat turds to do the MOST BASIC THING, like ring....

Even my nokia 102 is crap. The old nokias had a green telephone that you
pressed to answer a call, and a red telephone that you pressed to end
the call. Pretty obvious really. the 102 doesn't. It has an unside down
bath symbol and what looks like a speedometer. They bear no relationship
to making a call whatsoever. I am after over a year still not sure which
one does what and often cuts people off instead of answering the
phone.But that doesnt happen much anyway, because its got a vodaphone
sim in, and there is **** all vodaphone coverage.

What a delight now me mate has gone home and I know that if I want the
internet, I have a well thougfht out Linux machine that actually works
with a reasonably sane user interface, and a telepone handset connected
to copper that always ring and always gets me connected to the person I
am calling...

...Unless they have an I-phone of course.

Lol. Iphones are if anything better than the others in this respect. And you can't really blame the iphone for the fact that you didn't RTFM. Mobiles are squarely marketed at kids, and are a whole lot of fancy crap over functionality. I suppose that the phone UI isn't something that has been established & settled over the years to the same extent that desktop winlin has.


NT

On 06/05/2017 00:06, wrote:
On Friday, 5 May 2017 23:16:27 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
hTrying to phone my neighbour,. No reply. eventually phoned him on te
landline, and invited him for dinner.

"Why didn't you answer your I phone?"
"It didn't ring"

Sure enough, it doesn't ring.

Went through every single menu, discover hundreds of combinations of 'I
don't want this phone to ring' and turn them all off.

It still doesn't ring.

two and half hours later I google "My ****ing i-phone won't ring"

And you have now learned that you should have done that two hours and 25
minutes earlier.

On 06/05/2017 00:31, Clive George wrote:
On 06/05/2017 00:06, wrote:
On Friday, 5 May 2017 23:16:27 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
hTrying to phone my neighbour,. No reply. eventually phoned him on te
landline, and invited him for dinner.

"Why didn't you answer your I phone?"
"It didn't ring"

Sure enough, it doesn't ring.

Went through every single menu, discover hundreds of combinations of 'I
don't want this phone to ring' and turn them all off.

It still doesn't ring.

two and half hours later I google "My ****ing i-phone won't ring"

And you have now learned that you should have done that two hours and 25
minutes earlier.

The switch on the side to mute the phone is one of its best features.
Extremely user-friendly. Of course I read the manual when I first used
the phone, which is only sensible. There's a very good user guide on the
phone as well.

Bill

On 06/05/17 02:57, Bill Wright wrote:
On 06/05/2017 00:31, Clive George wrote:
On 06/05/2017 00:06, wrote:
On Friday, 5 May 2017 23:16:27 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
hTrying to phone my neighbour,. No reply. eventually phoned him on te
landline, and invited him for dinner.

"Why didn't you answer your I phone?"
"It didn't ring"

Sure enough, it doesn't ring.

Went through every single menu, discover hundreds of combinations of 'I
don't want this phone to ring' and turn them all off.

It still doesn't ring.

two and half hours later I google "My ****ing i-phone won't ring"

And you have now learned that you should have done that two hours and 25
minutes earlier.

The switch on the side to mute the phone is one of its best features.
Extremely user-friendly. Of course I read the manual when I first used
the phone, which is only sensible. There's a very good user guide on the
phone as well.

No there isn't any manual
On or off the phone.

Bill


--
"What do you think about Gay Marriage?"
"I don't."
"Don't what?"
"Think about Gay Marriage."

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
news
On 06/05/17 02:57, Bill Wright wrote:
On 06/05/2017 00:31, Clive George wrote:
On 06/05/2017 00:06, wrote:
On Friday, 5 May 2017 23:16:27 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
hTrying to phone my neighbour,. No reply. eventually phoned him on te
landline, and invited him for dinner.

"Why didn't you answer your I phone?"
"It didn't ring"

Sure enough, it doesn't ring.

Went through every single menu, discover hundreds of combinations of
'I
don't want this phone to ring' and turn them all off.

It still doesn't ring.

two and half hours later I google "My ****ing i-phone won't ring"

And you have now learned that you should have done that two hours and 25
minutes earlier.

The switch on the side to mute the phone is one of its best features.
Extremely user-friendly. Of course I read the manual when I first used
the phone, which is only sensible. There's a very good user guide on the
phone as well.

No there isn't any manual
On or off the phone.

Wrong, as always.
http://help.apple.com/iphone/10/

En el artículo , The Natural Philosopher
escribió:

No there isn't any manual
On or off the phone

Oh, yes there is. It's installed at the factory. You're just too
stupid to find it. An it's online he

http://help.apple.com/iphone/10/

Your issue is a classic case of going at a problem like a bull in a
china shop farting about with the settings 'cos you think you know it
all. If you'd R the FM in the first place you wouldn't have made
yourself look a prat, would you?

--
(\_/)
(='.'=) "Between two evils, I always pick
(")_(") the one I never tried before." - Mae West

On Sat, 6 May 2017 07:54:20 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:


hTrying to phone my neighbour,. No reply. eventually phoned him on te
landline, and invited him for dinner.

"Why didn't you answer your I phone?"
"It didn't ring"

Sure enough, it doesn't ring.

Went through every single menu, discover hundreds of combinations of 'I
don't want this phone to ring' and turn them all off.

It still doesn't ring.

two and half hours later I google "My ****ing i-phone won't ring"


The switch on the side to mute the phone is one of its best features.
Extremely user-friendly. Of course I read the manual when I first used
the phone, which is only sensible. There's a very good user guide on the
phone as well.

No there isn't any manual
On or off the phone.


Bought both ours 2nd hand so no manual, the volume controls and mute
switch are fairly obvious and were about the first items found when
looking at them.
Surprised that you did not try some fingerpoken on any controls
first or have both your neighbour and yourself got so conditioned to
software controlled devices that trying anything like a physical
button to see what it does no longer comes naturally.

Perhaps you had better become the Unnatural Philosopher.

Sure your neighbour wasn't looking for an excuse not to experience
your cooking?

G.Harman

wrote in message
...
On Friday, 5 May 2017 23:16:27 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
hTrying to phone my neighbour,. No reply. eventually phoned him on te
landline, and invited him for dinner.

"Why didn't you answer your I phone?"
"It didn't ring"

Sure enough, it doesn't ring.

Went through every single menu, discover hundreds of combinations of 'I
don't want this phone to ring' and turn them all off.

It still doesn't ring.

two and half hours later I google "My ****ing i-phone won't ring"

And discover that unlike *EVERY OTHER FUNCTION* on the i-phone, there
is a PHYSICAL SWITCH to turn the ringer off. Nothing in any menu
indicated it was turned off. Nor did it come with any manual.

There are people here who say that the linux command line is old
fashioned and opaque. They have obviously never set up an I phone.

So that's 5 hours in total trying to solve basic simple problems like
'how the **** do I insert the sim card? and 'How the **** do I get this
heap of unadulterated wombat turds to do the MOST BASIC THING, like
ring...

Even my nokia 102 is crap. The old nokias had a green telephone that you
pressed to answer a call, and a red telephone that you pressed to end
the call. Pretty obvious really. the 102 doesn't. It has an unside down
bath symbol and what looks like a speedometer. They bear no relationship
to making a call whatsoever. I am after over a year still not sure which
one does what and often cuts people off instead of answering the
phone.But that doesnt happen much anyway, because its got a vodaphone
sim in, and there is **** all vodaphone coverage.

What a delight now me mate has gone home and I know that if I want the
internet, I have a well thougfht out Linux machine that actually works
with a reasonably sane user interface, and a telepone handset connected
to copper that always ring and always gets me connected to the person I
am calling...

...Unless they have an I-phone of course.

Lol. Iphones are if anything better than the others in this respect.

Yep, much more consistent UI and much less configurable so you can't
end up with a situation where someone has accidently or deliberately
configured it so you can't work out what they have done easily.

I have in fact been caught by that problem myself. It isnt hard to
accidentally turn the physical switch off and not realise you have
done that. And there is no obvious indication of that on the screen.

And you can't really blame the iphone for the fact that you didn't RTFM.

A device with as much effort put into the UI as iphones have had
shouldnt require you to RTFM to use them and iphones mostly
dont with stuff as basic as working out why it doesnt ring.

Mobiles are squarely marketed at kids, and are
a whole lot of fancy crap over functionality.

This clearly isnt an example of that.

I suppose that the phone UI isn't something that has been established
& settled over the years to the same extent that desktop winlin has.

In fact there is nothing even remotely like settled with the desktop UI.

XP is nothing like Win10.

En el artículo , Rod Speed
escribió:

And there is no obvious indication of that on the screen.

Oh, that'll be why it pops up a "Ringer on/off" thing on the display
whenever I operate the switch, then. Even when it's in standby.

--
(\_/)
(='.'=) "Between two evils, I always pick
(")_(") the one I never tried before." - Mae West

On 06/05/17 09:17, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artÃ*culo , Rod Speed
escribió:

And there is no obvious indication of that on the screen.

Oh, that'll be why it pops up a "Ringer on/off" thing on the display
whenever I operate the switch, then. Even when it's in standby.

I have no idea whether an alert popped up when my elderly neighbour
nudged it presumably with his finger while ansering a call. .

I certainly did not notice that when I turned it back on.

My point being that there is no PERMANENT rather than volatile
indication of the state.Like te little moon thing that comes up when you
put it into lunatic mode.


If I try and drive my car with the handbrake on, it shows me that the
handbrake is on. I dont need to be looking at the dashboard just at the
instant I put the handbrake on. Curiously enough that is the one time
when I KNOW I just put the handbrake on, and don't need reminding

In fact you have totally proved my point. Having an alert to tell you
you have just done something that you know you have just done, because
you just did it, is the most useless and superfluous piece of crap
programming yet.

Unless the whole point is to bedazzle the user with the cleverness and
complexity of the product by disguising the ****tiness of the underlying
hardware and software.

In your case its obvipously worked.


--
Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have
guns, why should we let them have ideas?

Josef Stalin

On Saturday, 6 May 2017 09:38:57 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 06/05/17 09:17, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artÃ*culo , Rod Speed
escribió:

And there is no obvious indication of that on the screen.

Oh, that'll be why it pops up a "Ringer on/off" thing on the display
whenever I operate the switch, then. Even when it's in standby.

I have no idea whether an alert popped up when my elderly neighbour
nudged it presumably with his finger while ansering a call. .

I certainly did not notice that when I turned it back on.

My point being that there is no PERMANENT rather than volatile
indication of the state.Like te little moon thing that comes up when you
put it into lunatic mode.


If I try and drive my car with the handbrake on, it shows me that the
handbrake is on. I dont need to be looking at the dashboard just at the
instant I put the handbrake on. Curiously enough that is the one time
when I KNOW I just put the handbrake on, and don't need reminding

In fact you have totally proved my point. Having an alert to tell you
you have just done something that you know you have just done, because
you just did it, is the most useless and superfluous piece of crap
programming yet.

Unless the whole point is to bedazzle the user with the cleverness and
complexity of the product by disguising the ****tiness of the underlying
hardware and software.

In your case its obvipously worked.

It's a painless way to educate beginner users re what does what.
Iphones don't get everything right, and can be frustrating like any other computer, but they are a lot better than the competition in that respect.


NT

In message , The Natural Philosopher
writes

Unless the whole point is to bedazzle the user with the cleverness and
complexity of the product by disguising the ****tiness of the
underlying hardware and software.

Is that not true of the vast majority of electrical/electronic devices
on the market today? When did it take off? Perhaps today's 'smart'
phone is the direct descendent of all those awful 1980s 'hi fis' that
had a million useless knobs and switches that didn't really do very
much, were rarely necessary and were only there to impress the boys, and
disguise the crapiness of the underlying product.
--
Graeme

Mike Tomlinson wrote
Rod Speed wrote

And there is no obvious indication of that on the screen.

Oh, that'll be why it pops up a "Ringer on/off" thing on the display
whenever I operate the switch, then. Even when it's in standby.

That's a very short term indication, when you actually switch it,
which isnt any help when you manage to switch it accidentally
when you are getting it out of your pocket and can't actually
see the screen when you manage to move the switch.

I meant there is no continuing indication in the status bar
that is visible quite a bit of the time. There is for do not
disturb, but not for the position of that physical switch.

Not clear why there isnt, there is enough room for it.

But then someone who isnt familiar with an iphone
having just got one may not realise what the icon
means. Tho a speaker with a bar thru it should be rather
obvious to anyone who isnt as stupid as the turnip.

"pamela" wrote in message
...
On 09:17 6 May 2017, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

En el artículo , Rod Speed
escribió:

And there is no obvious indication of that on the screen.

Oh, that'll be why it pops up a "Ringer on/off" thing on the
display whenever I operate the switch, then. Even when it's in
standby.


I wonder what the neighbour thought that switch was actually for all
this time he had the phone.

Likely just ignored it.

"pamela" wrote in message
...
On 17:09 6 May 2017, Tim Streater wrote:

In article , pamela
wrote:

On 09:17 6 May 2017, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

En el artÃ*culo , Rod Speed
escribió:

And there is no obvious indication of that on the screen.

Oh, that'll be why it pops up a "Ringer on/off" thing on the
display whenever I operate the switch, then. Even when it's
in standby.

I wonder what the neighbour thought that switch was actually for
all this time he had the phone.

He's prolly no different from the mass of consumers, who when
using e.g. Word see all these items in the menus and never think
to wonder what they are or try them.


Yes but there are only 3 buttons on that side of the phone.
Two are for volume. The only other button on the case is the
on-off switch. Surely that unknown button piqued some interest?

Clearly it didn’t with those two.

As the mystery button is right next to the volume
buttons then it wouldn't be too hard to guess it
might be connected with the volume of something.

That’s one of those easy to be wise after the event things.

Corse they could have got real radical and read the ****ing manual.

Rod Speed wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Friday, 5 May 2017 23:16:27 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
hTrying to phone my neighbour,. No reply. eventually phoned him on te
landline, and invited him for dinner.

"Why didn't you answer your I phone?"
"It didn't ring"

Sure enough, it doesn't ring.

Went through every single menu, discover hundreds of combinations of 'I
don't want this phone to ring' and turn them all off.

It still doesn't ring.

two and half hours later I google "My ****ing i-phone won't ring"

And discover that unlike *EVERY OTHER FUNCTION* on the i-phone, there
is a PHYSICAL SWITCH to turn the ringer off. Nothing in any menu
indicated it was turned off. Nor did it come with any manual.

There are people here who say that the linux command line is old
fashioned and opaque. They have obviously never set up an I phone.

So that's 5 hours in total trying to solve basic simple problems like
'how the **** do I insert the sim card? and 'How the **** do I get this
heap of unadulterated wombat turds to do the MOST BASIC THING, like
ring...

Even my nokia 102 is crap. The old nokias had a green telephone that you
pressed to answer a call, and a red telephone that you pressed to end
the call. Pretty obvious really. the 102 doesn't. It has an unside down
bath symbol and what looks like a speedometer. They bear no relationship
to making a call whatsoever. I am after over a year still not sure which
one does what and often cuts people off instead of answering the
phone.But that doesnt happen much anyway, because its got a vodaphone
sim in, and there is **** all vodaphone coverage.

What a delight now me mate has gone home and I know that if I want the
internet, I have a well thougfht out Linux machine that actually works
with a reasonably sane user interface, and a telepone handset connected
to copper that always ring and always gets me connected to the person I
am calling...

...Unless they have an I-phone of course.

Lol. Iphones are if anything better than the others in this respect.

Yep, much more consistent UI and much less configurable so you can't
end up with a situation where someone has accidently or deliberately
configured it so you can't work out what they have done easily.

Except if they change the language

I have in fact been caught by that problem myself. It isnt hard to
accidentally turn the physical switch off and not realise you have
done that. And there is no obvious indication of that on the screen.

And you can't really blame the iphone for the fact that you didn't RTFM.

A device with as much effort put into the UI as iphones have had
shouldnt require you to RTFM to use them and iphones mostly
dont with stuff as basic as working out why it doesnt ring.

Mobiles are squarely marketed at kids, and are
a whole lot of fancy crap over functionality.

This clearly isnt an example of that.

I suppose that the phone UI isn't something that has been established
& settled over the years to the same extent that desktop winlin has.

In fact there is nothing even remotely like settled with the desktop UI.

XP is nothing like Win10.

"FMurtz" wrote in message
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Rod Speed wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Friday, 5 May 2017 23:16:27 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
hTrying to phone my neighbour,. No reply. eventually phoned him on te
landline, and invited him for dinner.

"Why didn't you answer your I phone?"
"It didn't ring"

Sure enough, it doesn't ring.

Went through every single menu, discover hundreds of combinations of 'I
don't want this phone to ring' and turn them all off.

It still doesn't ring.

two and half hours later I google "My ****ing i-phone won't ring"

And discover that unlike *EVERY OTHER FUNCTION* on the i-phone, there
is a PHYSICAL SWITCH to turn the ringer off. Nothing in any menu
indicated it was turned off. Nor did it come with any manual.

There are people here who say that the linux command line is old
fashioned and opaque. They have obviously never set up an I phone.

So that's 5 hours in total trying to solve basic simple problems like
'how the **** do I insert the sim card? and 'How the **** do I get this
heap of unadulterated wombat turds to do the MOST BASIC THING, like
ring...

Even my nokia 102 is crap. The old nokias had a green telephone that
you
pressed to answer a call, and a red telephone that you pressed to end
the call. Pretty obvious really. the 102 doesn't. It has an unside down
bath symbol and what looks like a speedometer. They bear no
relationship
to making a call whatsoever. I am after over a year still not sure
which
one does what and often cuts people off instead of answering the
phone.But that doesnt happen much anyway, because its got a vodaphone
sim in, and there is **** all vodaphone coverage.

What a delight now me mate has gone home and I know that if I want the
internet, I have a well thougfht out Linux machine that actually works
with a reasonably sane user interface, and a telepone handset connected
to copper that always ring and always gets me connected to the person
I
am calling...

...Unless they have an I-phone of course.

Lol. Iphones are if anything better than the others in this respect.

Yep, much more consistent UI and much less configurable so you can't
end up with a situation where someone has accidently or deliberately
configured it so you can't work out what they have done easily.

Except if they change the language

It isnt hard to change it back to what you understand.

I have in fact been caught by that problem myself. It isnt hard to
accidentally turn the physical switch off and not realise you have
done that. And there is no obvious indication of that on the screen.

And you can't really blame the iphone for the fact that you didn't RTFM.

A device with as much effort put into the UI as iphones have had
shouldnt require you to RTFM to use them and iphones mostly
dont with stuff as basic as working out why it doesnt ring.

Mobiles are squarely marketed at kids, and are
a whole lot of fancy crap over functionality.

This clearly isnt an example of that.

I suppose that the phone UI isn't something that has been established
& settled over the years to the same extent that desktop winlin has.

In fact there is nothing even remotely like settled with the desktop UI.

XP is nothing like Win10.

On 06/05/17 00:06, wrote:
On Friday, 5 May 2017 23:16:27 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
hTrying to phone my neighbour,. No reply. eventually phoned him on
te landline, and invited him for dinner.

"Why didn't you answer your I phone?" "It didn't ring"

Sure enough, it doesn't ring.

Went through every single menu, discover hundreds of combinations
of 'I don't want this phone to ring' and turn them all off.

It still doesn't ring.

two and half hours later I google "My ****ing i-phone won't ring"

And discover that unlike *EVERY OTHER FUNCTION* on the i-phone,
there is a PHYSICAL SWITCH to turn the ringer off. Nothing in any
menu indicated it was turned off. Nor did it come with any manual.

There are people here who say that the linux command line is old
fashioned and opaque. They have obviously never set up an I phone.

So that's 5 hours in total trying to solve basic simple problems
like 'how the **** do I insert the sim card? and 'How the **** do I
get this heap of unadulterated wombat turds to do the MOST BASIC
THING, like ring....

Even my nokia 102 is crap. The old nokias had a green telephone
that you pressed to answer a call, and a red telephone that you
pressed to end the call. Pretty obvious really. the 102 doesn't. It
has an unside down bath symbol and what looks like a speedometer.
They bear no relationship to making a call whatsoever. I am after
over a year still not sure which one does what and often cuts
people off instead of answering the phone.But that doesnt happen
much anyway, because its got a vodaphone sim in, and there is ****
all vodaphone coverage.

What a delight now me mate has gone home and I know that if I want
the internet, I have a well thougfht out Linux machine that
actually works with a reasonably sane user interface, and a
telepone handset connected to copper that always ring and always
gets me connected to the person I am calling...

...Unless they have an I-phone of course.

Lol. Iphones are if anything better than the others in this respect.
And you can't really blame the iphone for the fact that you didn't
RTFM.

There was no ****ing manual!

At least Unix came with an online manual.


Mobiles are squarely marketed at kids, and are a whole lot of
fancy crap over functionality. I suppose that the phone UI isn't
something that has been established & settled over the years to the
same extent that desktop winlin has.

When apple made the first macintosh. OS/9 or whatever it was at least
had a consistent look and feel and some sort of logic to it.

And it came with a manual.


NT



--
"What do you think about Gay Marriage?"
"I don't."
"Don't what?"
"Think about Gay Marriage."

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
news
On 06/05/17 00:06, wrote:
On Friday, 5 May 2017 23:16:27 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
hTrying to phone my neighbour,. No reply. eventually phoned him on
te landline, and invited him for dinner.

"Why didn't you answer your I phone?" "It didn't ring"

Sure enough, it doesn't ring.

Went through every single menu, discover hundreds of combinations
of 'I don't want this phone to ring' and turn them all off.

It still doesn't ring.

two and half hours later I google "My ****ing i-phone won't ring"

And discover that unlike *EVERY OTHER FUNCTION* on the i-phone,
there is a PHYSICAL SWITCH to turn the ringer off. Nothing in any
menu indicated it was turned off. Nor did it come with any manual.

There are people here who say that the linux command line is old
fashioned and opaque. They have obviously never set up an I phone.

So that's 5 hours in total trying to solve basic simple problems
like 'how the **** do I insert the sim card? and 'How the **** do I
get this heap of unadulterated wombat turds to do the MOST BASIC
THING, like ring....

Even my nokia 102 is crap. The old nokias had a green telephone
that you pressed to answer a call, and a red telephone that you
pressed to end the call. Pretty obvious really. the 102 doesn't. It
has an unside down bath symbol and what looks like a speedometer.
They bear no relationship to making a call whatsoever. I am after
over a year still not sure which one does what and often cuts
people off instead of answering the phone.But that doesnt happen
much anyway, because its got a vodaphone sim in, and there is ****
all vodaphone coverage.

What a delight now me mate has gone home and I know that if I want
the internet, I have a well thougfht out Linux machine that
actually works with a reasonably sane user interface, and a
telepone handset connected to copper that always ring and always
gets me connected to the person I am calling...

...Unless they have an I-phone of course.

Lol. Iphones are if anything better than the others in this respect.
And you can't really blame the iphone for the fact that you didn't
RTFM.

There was no ****ing manual!

Corse there is.
http://help.apple.com/iphone/10/

At least Unix came with an online manual.

So do iphones.

Mobiles are squarely marketed at kids, and are a whole lot of
fancy crap over functionality. I suppose that the phone UI isn't
something that has been established & settled over the years to the
same extent that desktop winlin has.

When apple made the first macintosh. OS/9 or whatever it was at least had
a consistent look and feel and some sort of logic to it.

So do iphones.

And it came with a manual.

So do iphones.

On 06/05/17 08:09, Hankat wrote:


"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
news
On 06/05/17 00:06, wrote:
On Friday, 5 May 2017 23:16:27 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
hTrying to phone my neighbour,. No reply. eventually phoned him on
te landline, and invited him for dinner.

"Why didn't you answer your I phone?" "It didn't ring"

Sure enough, it doesn't ring.

Went through every single menu, discover hundreds of combinations
of 'I don't want this phone to ring' and turn them all off.

It still doesn't ring.

two and half hours later I google "My ****ing i-phone won't ring"

And discover that unlike *EVERY OTHER FUNCTION* on the i-phone,
there is a PHYSICAL SWITCH to turn the ringer off. Nothing in any
menu indicated it was turned off. Nor did it come with any manual.

There are people here who say that the linux command line is old
fashioned and opaque. They have obviously never set up an I phone.

So that's 5 hours in total trying to solve basic simple problems
like 'how the **** do I insert the sim card? and 'How the **** do I
get this heap of unadulterated wombat turds to do the MOST BASIC
THING, like ring....

Even my nokia 102 is crap. The old nokias had a green telephone
that you pressed to answer a call, and a red telephone that you
pressed to end the call. Pretty obvious really. the 102 doesn't. It
has an unside down bath symbol and what looks like a speedometer.
They bear no relationship to making a call whatsoever. I am after
over a year still not sure which one does what and often cuts
people off instead of answering the phone.But that doesnt happen
much anyway, because its got a vodaphone sim in, and there is ****
all vodaphone coverage.

What a delight now me mate has gone home and I know that if I want
the internet, I have a well thougfht out Linux machine that
actually works with a reasonably sane user interface, and a
telepone handset connected to copper that always ring and always
gets me connected to the person I am calling...

...Unless they have an I-phone of course.

Lol. Iphones are if anything better than the others in this respect.
And you can't really blame the iphone for the fact that you didn't
RTFM.

There was no ****ing manual!

Corse there is.
http://help.apple.com/iphone/10/

At least Unix came with an online manual.

So do iphones.

Mobiles are squarely marketed at kids, and are a whole lot of
fancy crap over functionality. I suppose that the phone UI isn't
something that has been established & settled over the years to the
same extent that desktop winlin has.

When apple made the first macintosh. OS/9 or whatever it was at least
had a consistent look and feel and some sort of logic to it.

So do iphones.

And it came with a manual.

So do iphones.


No, they do not.

I actually opened the package. There was a sheet saying 'insert sim card'

It took me 2 hours to work out how to do that.

That was all it basically said.

This is not my phone, its an elderly neighbours phone.






--
"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign,
that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."

Jonathan Swift.

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
news

On 06/05/17 08:09, Hankat wrote:


"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
news
On 06/05/17 00:06, wrote:
On Friday, 5 May 2017 23:16:27 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
hTrying to phone my neighbour,. No reply. eventually phoned him on
te landline, and invited him for dinner.

"Why didn't you answer your I phone?" "It didn't ring"

Sure enough, it doesn't ring.

Went through every single menu, discover hundreds of combinations
of 'I don't want this phone to ring' and turn them all off.

It still doesn't ring.

two and half hours later I google "My ****ing i-phone won't ring"

And discover that unlike *EVERY OTHER FUNCTION* on the i-phone,
there is a PHYSICAL SWITCH to turn the ringer off. Nothing in any
menu indicated it was turned off. Nor did it come with any manual.

There are people here who say that the linux command line is old
fashioned and opaque. They have obviously never set up an I phone.

So that's 5 hours in total trying to solve basic simple problems
like 'how the **** do I insert the sim card? and 'How the **** do I
get this heap of unadulterated wombat turds to do the MOST BASIC
THING, like ring....

Even my nokia 102 is crap. The old nokias had a green telephone
that you pressed to answer a call, and a red telephone that you
pressed to end the call. Pretty obvious really. the 102 doesn't. It
has an unside down bath symbol and what looks like a speedometer.
They bear no relationship to making a call whatsoever. I am after
over a year still not sure which one does what and often cuts
people off instead of answering the phone.But that doesnt happen
much anyway, because its got a vodaphone sim in, and there is ****
all vodaphone coverage.

What a delight now me mate has gone home and I know that if I want
the internet, I have a well thougfht out Linux machine that
actually works with a reasonably sane user interface, and a
telepone handset connected to copper that always ring and always
gets me connected to the person I am calling...

...Unless they have an I-phone of course.

Lol. Iphones are if anything better than the others in this respect.
And you can't really blame the iphone for the fact that you didn't
RTFM.

There was no ****ing manual!

Corse there is.
http://help.apple.com/iphone/10/

At least Unix came with an online manual.

So do iphones.

Mobiles are squarely marketed at kids, and are a whole lot of
fancy crap over functionality. I suppose that the phone UI isn't
something that has been established & settled over the years to the
same extent that desktop winlin has.

When apple made the first macintosh. OS/9 or whatever it was at least
had a consistent look and feel and some sort of logic to it.

So do iphones.

And it came with a manual.

So do iphones.


No, they do not.

I actually opened the package. There was a sheet saying 'insert sim card'

It took me 2 hours to work out how to do that.

That was all it basically said.

This is not my phone, its an elderly neighbours phone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXBwDa1ohck

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 06/05/17 08:09, Hankat wrote:


"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
news
On 06/05/17 00:06, wrote:
On Friday, 5 May 2017 23:16:27 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
hTrying to phone my neighbour,. No reply. eventually phoned him on
te landline, and invited him for dinner.

"Why didn't you answer your I phone?" "It didn't ring"

Sure enough, it doesn't ring.

Went through every single menu, discover hundreds of combinations
of 'I don't want this phone to ring' and turn them all off.

It still doesn't ring.

two and half hours later I google "My ****ing i-phone won't ring"

And discover that unlike *EVERY OTHER FUNCTION* on the i-phone,
there is a PHYSICAL SWITCH to turn the ringer off. Nothing in any
menu indicated it was turned off. Nor did it come with any manual.

There are people here who say that the linux command line is old
fashioned and opaque. They have obviously never set up an I phone.

So that's 5 hours in total trying to solve basic simple problems
like 'how the **** do I insert the sim card? and 'How the **** do I
get this heap of unadulterated wombat turds to do the MOST BASIC
THING, like ring....

Even my nokia 102 is crap. The old nokias had a green telephone
that you pressed to answer a call, and a red telephone that you
pressed to end the call. Pretty obvious really. the 102 doesn't. It
has an unside down bath symbol and what looks like a speedometer.
They bear no relationship to making a call whatsoever. I am after
over a year still not sure which one does what and often cuts
people off instead of answering the phone.But that doesnt happen
much anyway, because its got a vodaphone sim in, and there is ****
all vodaphone coverage.

What a delight now me mate has gone home and I know that if I want
the internet, I have a well thougfht out Linux machine that
actually works with a reasonably sane user interface, and a
telepone handset connected to copper that always ring and always
gets me connected to the person I am calling...

...Unless they have an I-phone of course.

Lol. Iphones are if anything better than the others in this respect.
And you can't really blame the iphone for the fact that you didn't
RTFM.

There was no ****ing manual!

Corse there is.
http://help.apple.com/iphone/10/

At least Unix came with an online manual.

So do iphones.

Mobiles are squarely marketed at kids, and are a whole lot of
fancy crap over functionality. I suppose that the phone UI isn't
something that has been established & settled over the years to the
same extent that desktop winlin has.

When apple made the first macintosh. OS/9 or whatever it was at least
had a consistent look and feel and some sort of logic to it.

So do iphones.

And it came with a manual.

So do iphones.


No, they do not.

I actually opened the package. There was a sheet saying 'insert sim card'

It took me 2 hours to work out how to do that.

That was all it basically said.

This is not my phone, its an elderly neighbours phone.






There is probably a reason why the only iphones I have ever had were
given to me,I would never buy one.
Regarding the sim, ever wondered why all iphone employees have a paper
clip hanging off them somewhere?

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
news
On 06/05/17 08:09, Hankat wrote:


"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
news
On 06/05/17 00:06, wrote:
On Friday, 5 May 2017 23:16:27 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
hTrying to phone my neighbour,. No reply. eventually phoned him on
te landline, and invited him for dinner.

"Why didn't you answer your I phone?" "It didn't ring"

Sure enough, it doesn't ring.

Went through every single menu, discover hundreds of combinations
of 'I don't want this phone to ring' and turn them all off.

It still doesn't ring.

two and half hours later I google "My ****ing i-phone won't ring"

And discover that unlike *EVERY OTHER FUNCTION* on the i-phone,
there is a PHYSICAL SWITCH to turn the ringer off. Nothing in any
menu indicated it was turned off. Nor did it come with any manual.

There are people here who say that the linux command line is old
fashioned and opaque. They have obviously never set up an I phone.

So that's 5 hours in total trying to solve basic simple problems
like 'how the **** do I insert the sim card? and 'How the **** do I
get this heap of unadulterated wombat turds to do the MOST BASIC
THING, like ring....

Even my nokia 102 is crap. The old nokias had a green telephone
that you pressed to answer a call, and a red telephone that you
pressed to end the call. Pretty obvious really. the 102 doesn't. It
has an unside down bath symbol and what looks like a speedometer.
They bear no relationship to making a call whatsoever. I am after
over a year still not sure which one does what and often cuts
people off instead of answering the phone.But that doesnt happen
much anyway, because its got a vodaphone sim in, and there is ****
all vodaphone coverage.

What a delight now me mate has gone home and I know that if I want
the internet, I have a well thougfht out Linux machine that
actually works with a reasonably sane user interface, and a
telepone handset connected to copper that always ring and always
gets me connected to the person I am calling...

...Unless they have an I-phone of course.

Lol. Iphones are if anything better than the others in this respect.
And you can't really blame the iphone for the fact that you didn't
RTFM.

There was no ****ing manual!

Corse there is.
http://help.apple.com/iphone/10/

At least Unix came with an online manual.

So do iphones.

Mobiles are squarely marketed at kids, and are a whole lot of
fancy crap over functionality. I suppose that the phone UI isn't
something that has been established & settled over the years to the
same extent that desktop winlin has.

When apple made the first macintosh. OS/9 or whatever it was at least
had a consistent look and feel and some sort of logic to it.

So do iphones.

And it came with a manual.

So do iphones.


No, they do not.

Corse they do. I posted a link.

I actually opened the package. There was a sheet saying 'insert sim card'

It said a lot more than that.

It took me 2 hours to work out how to do that.

Yes, you are that terminal a ****wit.

That was all it basically said.

Like hell it was.

This is not my phone, its an elderly neighbours phone.

And you were too ****ing stupid to even be able to manage
to use the net and get some info on how to insert the sim card.

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 06/05/17 08:09, Hankat wrote:


"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
news
On 06/05/17 00:06, wrote:
On Friday, 5 May 2017 23:16:27 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
hTrying to phone my neighbour,. No reply. eventually phoned him on
te landline, and invited him for dinner.

"Why didn't you answer your I phone?" "It didn't ring"

Sure enough, it doesn't ring.

Went through every single menu, discover hundreds of combinations
of 'I don't want this phone to ring' and turn them all off.

It still doesn't ring.

two and half hours later I google "My ****ing i-phone won't ring"

And discover that unlike *EVERY OTHER FUNCTION* on the i-phone,
there is a PHYSICAL SWITCH to turn the ringer off. Nothing in any
menu indicated it was turned off. Nor did it come with any manual.

There are people here who say that the linux command line is old
fashioned and opaque. They have obviously never set up an I phone.

So that's 5 hours in total trying to solve basic simple problems
like 'how the **** do I insert the sim card? and 'How the **** do I
get this heap of unadulterated wombat turds to do the MOST BASIC
THING, like ring....

Even my nokia 102 is crap. The old nokias had a green telephone
that you pressed to answer a call, and a red telephone that you
pressed to end the call. Pretty obvious really. the 102 doesn't. It
has an unside down bath symbol and what looks like a speedometer.
They bear no relationship to making a call whatsoever. I am after
over a year still not sure which one does what and often cuts
people off instead of answering the phone.But that doesnt happen
much anyway, because its got a vodaphone sim in, and there is ****
all vodaphone coverage.

What a delight now me mate has gone home and I know that if I want
the internet, I have a well thougfht out Linux machine that
actually works with a reasonably sane user interface, and a
telepone handset connected to copper that always ring and always
gets me connected to the person I am calling...

...Unless they have an I-phone of course.

Lol. Iphones are if anything better than the others in this respect.
And you can't really blame the iphone for the fact that you didn't
RTFM.

There was no ****ing manual!

Corse there is.
http://help.apple.com/iphone/10/

At least Unix came with an online manual.

So do iphones.

Mobiles are squarely marketed at kids, and are a whole lot of
fancy crap over functionality. I suppose that the phone UI isn't
something that has been established & settled over the years to the
same extent that desktop winlin has.

When apple made the first macintosh. OS/9 or whatever it was at least
had a consistent look and feel and some sort of logic to it.

So do iphones.

And it came with a manual.

So do iphones.


No, they do not.

I actually opened the package. There was a sheet saying 'insert sim card'

It took me 2 hours to work out how to do that.

That was all it basically said.

This is not my phone, its an elderly neighbours phone.






They are not all that much different to android phones, but that little
switch caused me a lot more missed calls than I get with android but the
same problem happens if you accidently turn down ringer volume.
PS I did work out how to get at the sim without a manual but I am
inquisitive about inexplicable miniature holes.

En el artículo , The Natural Philosopher
escribió:

I actually opened the package. There was a sheet saying 'insert sim card'

It took me 2 hours to work out how to do that.

Why doesn't that surprise me?

--
(\_/)
(='.'=) "Between two evils, I always pick
(")_(") the one I never tried before." - Mae West

wrote in message
...
On Friday, 5 May 2017 23:16:27 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
hTrying to phone my neighbour,. No reply. eventually phoned him on te
landline, and invited him for dinner.

"Why didn't you answer your I phone?"
"It didn't ring"

Sure enough, it doesn't ring.

Went through every single menu, discover hundreds of combinations of 'I
don't want this phone to ring' and turn them all off.

It still doesn't ring.

two and half hours later I google "My ****ing i-phone won't ring"

And discover that unlike *EVERY OTHER FUNCTION* on the i-phone, there
is a PHYSICAL SWITCH to turn the ringer off. Nothing in any menu
indicated it was turned off. Nor did it come with any manual.

There are people here who say that the linux command line is old
fashioned and opaque. They have obviously never set up an I phone.

So that's 5 hours in total trying to solve basic simple problems like
'how the **** do I insert the sim card? and 'How the **** do I get this
heap of unadulterated wombat turds to do the MOST BASIC THING, like
ring...

Even my nokia 102 is crap. The old nokias had a green telephone that you
pressed to answer a call, and a red telephone that you pressed to end
the call. Pretty obvious really. the 102 doesn't. It has an unside down
bath symbol and what looks like a speedometer. They bear no relationship
to making a call whatsoever. I am after over a year still not sure which
one does what and often cuts people off instead of answering the
phone.But that doesnt happen much anyway, because its got a vodaphone
sim in, and there is **** all vodaphone coverage.

What a delight now me mate has gone home and I know that if I want the
internet, I have a well thougfht out Linux machine that actually works
with a reasonably sane user interface, and a telepone handset connected
to copper that always ring and always gets me connected to the person I
am calling...

...Unless they have an I-phone of course.

Lol. Iphones are if anything better than the others in this respect. And
you can't really blame the iphone for the fact that you didn't RTFM.

a manual!

in a box with a mobile phone?

you've got to be ****ing kidding!!

tim

On Saturday, 6 May 2017 11:54:14 UTC+1, tim... wrote:
tabbypurr wrote in message

Lol. Iphones are if anything better than the others in this respect. And
you can't really blame the iphone for the fact that you didn't RTFM.

a manual!

in a box with a mobile phone?

you've got to be ****ing kidding!!

tim

If you use whole sentences we might know what you're trying to say.


NT

En el artículo , The Natural Philosopher
escribió:

And discover that unlike *EVERY OTHER FUNCTION* on the i-phone, there
is a PHYSICAL SWITCH to turn the ringer off

PEBPAI.

Problem exists between phone and idiot.

--
(\_/)
(='.'=) "Between two evils, I always pick
(")_(") the one I never tried before." - Mae West

On Sat, 06 May 2017 05:11:15 +0100, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

En el artÃ*culo , The Natural Philosopher
escribió:

And discover that unlike *EVERY OTHER FUNCTION* on the i-phone, there
is a PHYSICAL SWITCH to turn the ringer off

PEBPAI.

Problem exists between phone and idiot.

Well, I guess they don't call them i-phones for nothing then. :-)

--
Johnny B Good

En el artículo , Johnny B Good
escribió:

Well, I guess they don't call them i-phones for nothing then. :-)

Heh. I'll remember that.

--
(\_/)
(='.'=) "Between two evils, I always pick
(")_(") the one I never tried before." - Mae West

On 05/05/2017 23:16, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
hTrying to phone my neighbour,. No reply. eventually phoned him on te
landline, and invited him for dinner.

"Why didn't you answer your I phone?"
"It didn't ring"

Sure enough, it doesn't ring.

Went through every single menu, discover hundreds of combinations of 'I
don't want this phone to ring' and turn them all off.

It still doesn't ring.

two and half hours later I google "My ****ing i-phone won't ring"

And discover that unlike *EVERY OTHER FUNCTION* on the i-phone, there
is a PHYSICAL SWITCH to turn the ringer off. Nothing in any menu
indicated it was turned off. Nor did it come with any manual.


Given there's only a couple of physical buttons on the thing, it
wouldn't normally take too much in the way of deduction to conclude what
it does - and it gives a screen indication of 'mute' when it's toggled.
Seems you and your friend missed that.

Also, in the 'Settings' app type 'ring' into the search dialogue - your
friend will see a variety of other options - vibration patterns, alerts,
visual cues.


--
Cheers, Rob

"RJH" wrote in message
news
On 05/05/2017 23:16, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
hTrying to phone my neighbour,. No reply. eventually phoned him on te
landline, and invited him for dinner.

"Why didn't you answer your I phone?"
"It didn't ring"

Sure enough, it doesn't ring.

Went through every single menu, discover hundreds of combinations of 'I
don't want this phone to ring' and turn them all off.

It still doesn't ring.

two and half hours later I google "My ****ing i-phone won't ring"

And discover that unlike *EVERY OTHER FUNCTION* on the i-phone, there
is a PHYSICAL SWITCH to turn the ringer off. Nothing in any menu
indicated it was turned off. Nor did it come with any manual.

Given there's only a couple of physical buttons on the thing, it wouldn't
normally take too much in the way of deduction to conclude what it does

That assumes you have enough of a clue to try them.

- and it gives a screen indication of 'mute' when it's toggled.

But if you manage to move it accidentally
when say getting it out of your pocket, you wont
necessarily be able to see that when you move it.

Seems you and your friend missed that.

Not surprising, I managed to myself.

Also, in the 'Settings' app type 'ring' into the search dialogue - your
friend will see a variety of other options - vibration patterns, alerts,
visual cues.

But wont necessarily know to do that in settings.

Makes a lot more sense for the turnip to do a search
on iphone doesnt ring on the net, but he's so stupid
that it took him hours to manage even something as
simple as that.

On 06/05/2017 15:44, pamela wrote:
On 08:12 6 May 2017, RJH wrote:

On 05/05/2017 23:16, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
hTrying to phone my neighbour,. No reply. eventually phoned him
on te landline, and invited him for dinner.

"Why didn't you answer your I phone?"
"It didn't ring"

Sure enough, it doesn't ring.

Went through every single menu, discover hundreds of
combinations of 'I don't want this phone to ring' and turn them
all off.

It still doesn't ring.

two and half hours later I google "My ****ing i-phone won't
ring"

And discover that unlike *EVERY OTHER FUNCTION* on the
i-phone, there is a PHYSICAL SWITCH to turn the ringer off.
Nothing in any menu indicated it was turned off. Nor did it
come with any manual.


Given there's only a couple of physical buttons on the thing, it
wouldn't normally take too much in the way of deduction to
conclude what it does - and it gives a screen indication of
'mute' when it's toggled. Seems you and your friend missed that.

It's almost beyond belief that it took several hours to discover what
that switch did. I wonder if this is all a troll?


Yes, you're probably right. One of them, maybe, but 2 adults (assuming),
highly unlikely they couldn't find it.


--
Cheers, Rob

On 06/05/2017 16:49, RJH wrote:

Yes, you're probably right. One of them, maybe, but 2 adults (assuming),
highly unlikely they couldn't find it.



Never underestimate how stupid people can be.
You have to assume there will be someone really stupid trying to use
your product.

On Saturday, 6 May 2017 20:06:50 UTC+1, dennis@home wrote:
On 06/05/2017 16:49, RJH wrote:

Yes, you're probably right. One of them, maybe, but 2 adults (assuming),
highly unlikely they couldn't find it.

Never underestimate how stupid people can be.
You have to assume there will be someone really stupid trying to use
your product.

Not really. You could cover every point in a huge manual, or cover enough for most people on one sheet. BT chose the latter.


NT

wrote in message
...
On Saturday, 6 May 2017 20:06:50 UTC+1, dennis@home wrote:
On 06/05/2017 16:49, RJH wrote:

Yes, you're probably right. One of them, maybe, but 2 adults
(assuming),
highly unlikely they couldn't find it.

Never underestimate how stupid people can be.
You have to assume there will be someone really stupid trying to use
your product.

Not really. You could cover every point in a huge manual,

And the most stupid wouldnt bother to read it.

They'd get whoever they got the phone from to do what
is necessary to make it useable at the time they buy it.

or cover enough for most people on one sheet. BT chose the latter.

"dennis@home" wrote in message
eb.com...
On 06/05/2017 16:49, RJH wrote:

Yes, you're probably right. One of them, maybe, but 2 adults (assuming),
highly unlikely they couldn't find it.



Never underestimate how stupid people can be.
You have to assume there will be someone really stupid trying to use your
product.

But it can make a lot more sense to realise that the
really stupid will get the operation they bought
the phone from to set it up so it can be used
than to try to explain to the most stupid who
don’t even understand what a sim is for how to
get something so small and fiddly into an iphone.

"pamela" wrote in message
...
On 08:12 6 May 2017, RJH wrote:

On 05/05/2017 23:16, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
hTrying to phone my neighbour,. No reply. eventually phoned him
on te landline, and invited him for dinner.

"Why didn't you answer your I phone?"
"It didn't ring"

Sure enough, it doesn't ring.

Went through every single menu, discover hundreds of
combinations of 'I don't want this phone to ring' and turn them
all off.

It still doesn't ring.

two and half hours later I google "My ****ing i-phone won't
ring"

And discover that unlike *EVERY OTHER FUNCTION* on the
i-phone, there is a PHYSICAL SWITCH to turn the ringer off.
Nothing in any menu indicated it was turned off. Nor did it
come with any manual.


Given there's only a couple of physical buttons on the thing, it
wouldn't normally take too much in the way of deduction to
conclude what it does - and it gives a screen indication of
'mute' when it's toggled. Seems you and your friend missed that.

It's almost beyond belief that it took several
hours to discover what that switch did.

Nope, he actually is that stupid. Too stupid to
even manage to google iphone manual either.

I wonder if this is all a troll?

Nope, he so defensive about his stupidity that it can't be that.

Also, in the 'Settings' app type 'ring' into the search dialogue
- your friend will see a variety of other options - vibration
patterns, alerts, visual cues.

On Friday, 5 May 2017 23:16:27 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
hTrying to phone my neighbour,. No reply. eventually phoned him on te
landline, and invited him for dinner.
"Why didn't you answer your I phone?"
"It didn't ring"

A friend has lost his password to his icloud thing for email.

Apple's idea of password recovery is "shall we email your new password to your icloud address?"

No, because that's the password he's lost.

Owain