I was looking for a drill angle adapter like this:
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Powe...ies/d80/p40354
But most of them have bad reviews - the angle bearing just does not last.
Can anyone recommend a decent one ?
Thanks,
Simon.

On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 18:48:00 -0700 (PDT), sm_jamieson wrote:

I was looking for a drill angle adapter like this:
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Powe...ies/d80/p40354
But most of them have bad reviews - the angle bearing just does not last.
Can anyone recommend a decent one ?
Thanks,
Simon.

Not a 'decent' one, but the one from Aldidl was rough as hell. I stripped,
cleaned and lubed it and it's been OK for the few times I've used it.

Look at Makita or Bosch's sites at a guess.
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

In message ,
sm_jamieson writes
I was looking for a drill angle adapter like this:
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Powe...ies/d80/p40354
But most of them have bad reviews - the angle bearing just does not last.
Can anyone recommend a decent one ?

No but.. Have you considered an angle drill driver? I was slightly
surprised to find my electrician using one with a 25mm wood bit creating
mouse holes through my house timber frame.

--
Tim Lamb

On 14/04/17 02:48, sm_jamieson wrote:
I was looking for a drill angle adapter like this:
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Powe...ies/d80/p40354
But most of them have bad reviews - the angle bearing just does not last.
Can anyone recommend a decent one ?
Thanks,
Simon.

How many times to you expect to use it? Surely this sort of accessory
would normally be used only very occasionally.

--

Jeff

I have that Toolstation one and have used it fairly often. It's been fine.
It's not the sort of thing that gets really heavy use, surely? And if it
is, the price is reasonable enough that it could be replaced if it did start
to give problems.

On Friday, April 14, 2017 at 10:13:44 AM UTC+1, Bert Coules wrote:
I have that Toolstation one and have used it fairly often. It's been fine.
It's not the sort of thing that gets really heavy use, surely? And if it
is, the price is reasonable enough that it could be replaced if it did start
to give problems.

I'll get it then - yes its only for light use. The bad reviews were obviously due to heavy use like drilling through joists, etc. I initially want to drill 5mm holes in chipboard !

I suppose it is cheap enough to replace, but a few replacements and you might as well have bought a right angle drill in the firt place.

Simon.

Simon, mine is used mainly for chipboard and MDF. And as I said, I've found
no problems so far.

Bert

On 14/04/2017 08:13, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message ,
sm_jamieson writes
I was looking for a drill angle adapter like this:
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Powe...ies/d80/p40354
But most of them have bad reviews - the angle bearing just does not last.
Can anyone recommend a decent one ?

No but.. Have you considered an angle drill driver? I was slightly
surprised to find my electrician using one with a 25mm wood bit creating
mouse holes through my house timber frame.


Don't electricians and plumbers spend quite a lot of time drilling holes
in joists? Given that the space between joists is around 14" there's
not much space for a conventional drill.

In article ,
Jeff Layman wrote:
On 14/04/17 02:48, sm_jamieson wrote:
I was looking for a drill angle adapter like this:
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Powe...ies/d80/p40354
But most of them have bad reviews - the angle bearing just does not last.
Can anyone recommend a decent one ?
Thanks,
Simon.

How many times to you expect to use it? Surely this sort of accessory
would normally be used only very occasionally.

Depends. If you're re-wiring, can be very useful to drill holes through
joists.

I've kept my ancient Wicks cordless drill because it has an excellent
right angle adpator. Even to the point of paying to have a battery
re-celled.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 14/04/2017 02:48, sm_jamieson wrote:
I was looking for a drill angle adapter like this:
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Powe...ies/d80/p40354
But most of them have bad reviews - the angle bearing just does not last.
Can anyone recommend a decent one ?

Not sure how good it is, but Rutlands were touting this the other day:

http://www.rutlands.co.uk/sp+angle-d...fessional+1305



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Cheers,

John.

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On 14/04/2017 02:48, sm_jamieson wrote:
I was looking for a drill angle adapter like this:
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Powe...ies/d80/p40354
But most of them have bad reviews - the angle bearing just does not last.
Can anyone recommend a decent one ?
Thanks,
Simon.

I had one and didn't find it much good. I kept an eye open and
eventually found a brand new mains angle-drill for less than £30 on
Ebay. That has been great for putting pipes and wiring through joists,
drilling extra holes for mounting things in my kit-car, even just
putting screws in or taking them out in confined spaces (it's variable
speed).

It's not something that most people use very often, but whenever it's
needed, it transforms the ease of a task.

SteveW

On 14/04/2017 12:13, Steve Walker wrote:
On 14/04/2017 02:48, sm_jamieson wrote:
I was looking for a drill angle adapter like this:
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Powe...ies/d80/p40354
But most of them have bad reviews - the angle bearing just does not last.
Can anyone recommend a decent one ?
Thanks,
Simon.

I had one and didn't find it much good. I kept an eye open and
eventually found a brand new mains angle-drill for less than £30 on
Ebay. That has been great for putting pipes and wiring through joists,
drilling extra holes for mounting things in my kit-car, even just
putting screws in or taking them out in confined spaces (it's variable
speed).

It's not something that most people use very often, but whenever it's
needed, it transforms the ease of a task.


Yep, agreed - I bought a £10 14V NiCad stock clearance one. Not that
powerful and the batteries on their last legs now - but well worth it.

--
Cheers, Rob

On 14/04/2017 11:11, GB wrote:
On 14/04/2017 08:13, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message ,
sm_jamieson writes
I was looking for a drill angle adapter like this:
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Powe...ies/d80/p40354
But most of them have bad reviews - the angle bearing just does not
last.
Can anyone recommend a decent one ?

No but.. Have you considered an angle drill driver? I was slightly
surprised to find my electrician using one with a 25mm wood bit creating
mouse holes through my house timber frame.


Don't electricians and plumbers spend quite a lot of time drilling holes
in joists? Given that the space between joists is around 14" there's
not much space for a conventional drill.

The numpties who did the first-fit electrics on my house (1976)
just drilled from below at an angle of about 30 degrees. where
two 65 mm joist were fitted side by side to support the upstairs
(block) wall they drilled up at 30 deg through one joist then
did the same from other side. They even drilled two 30 mm diam
holes side by side, so effectively took out a lump of timber
65 mm wide and similar depth out of a 9 inch joist.

They must have had fun pulling the 6 mm cooker cable though that
zig-zag hole.

On 14/04/2017 10:23, sm_jamieson wrote:
On Friday, April 14, 2017 at 10:13:44 AM UTC+1, Bert Coules wrote:
I have that Toolstation one and have used it fairly often. It's been fine.
It's not the sort of thing that gets really heavy use, surely? And if it
is, the price is reasonable enough that it could be replaced if it did start
to give problems.

I'll get it then - yes its only for light use. The bad reviews were obviously due to heavy use like drilling through joists, etc. I initially want to drill 5mm holes in chipboard !

I suppose it is cheap enough to replace, but a few replacements and you might as well have bought a right angle drill in the firt place.

Simon.


Is there enough space between the joists to use a plunge router ?.

On 14/04/2017 11:53, John Rumm wrote:
On 14/04/2017 02:48, sm_jamieson wrote:
I was looking for a drill angle adapter like this:
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Powe...ies/d80/p40354
But most of them have bad reviews - the angle bearing just does not last.
Can anyone recommend a decent one ?

Not sure how good it is, but Rutlands were touting this the other day:

http://www.rutlands.co.uk/sp+angle-d...fessional+1305



The main problem with angle drills is the lack of 'energy' you
can exert to make the bit chomp into the wood, when you are
standing, lying or kneeling at an awkward angle to start with.
And then you have to apply lateral force as well.

I usually have to resort to using various bits of timber as
levers to push the bit into the timber being drilled, else
you just apply a lateral force to wrong part of the angled
gearbox.

On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 11:44:41 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Jeff Layman wrote:
On 14/04/17 02:48, sm_jamieson wrote:
I was looking for a drill angle adapter like this:
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Powe...ies/d80/p40354
But most of them have bad reviews - the angle bearing just does not last.
Can anyone recommend a decent one ?
Thanks,
Simon.

How many times to you expect to use it? Surely this sort of accessory
would normally be used only very occasionally.

Depends. If you're re-wiring, can be very useful to drill holes through
joists.

I've kept my ancient Wicks cordless drill because it has an excellent
right angle adpator. Even to the point of paying to have a battery
re-celled.

My joists are nominally 16" spacing, so the 18V Bosch Pro with 22mm spade
bit at 12¾" long is OK. The Bosch Pro 10.8V will do the job (I don't rush it
at that size) and is an inch shorter.
The angled adapter gets used only if necessary.
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

On 14/04/2017 14:38, Andrew wrote:
On 14/04/2017 11:53, John Rumm wrote:
On 14/04/2017 02:48, sm_jamieson wrote:
I was looking for a drill angle adapter like this:
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Powe...ies/d80/p40354
But most of them have bad reviews - the angle bearing just does not
last.
Can anyone recommend a decent one ?

Not sure how good it is, but Rutlands were touting this the other day:

http://www.rutlands.co.uk/sp+angle-d...fessional+1305



The main problem with angle drills is the lack of 'energy' you
can exert to make the bit chomp into the wood, when you are
standing, lying or kneeling at an awkward angle to start with.
And then you have to apply lateral force as well.

The solution in that case if often a set of stubby auger bits - they are
ideal since they draw themselves through the wood and don't need pushing.

I have a cheap set like:

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p59839?table=no

and for occasional use they work well.

I usually have to resort to using various bits of timber as
levers to push the bit into the timber being drilled, else
you just apply a lateral force to wrong part of the angled
gearbox.

That's partly where a real angle drill helps since you are putting the
leverage on the case of the drill and not onto the gear path itself.


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Cheers,

John.

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PeterC wrote:
On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 11:44:41 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Jeff Layman wrote:
On 14/04/17 02:48, sm_jamieson wrote:
I was looking for a drill angle adapter like this:
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Powe...ies/d80/p40354
But most of them have bad reviews - the angle bearing just does not last.
Can anyone recommend a decent one ?
Thanks,
Simon.

How many times to you expect to use it? Surely this sort of accessory
would normally be used only very occasionally.

Depends. If you're re-wiring, can be very useful to drill holes through
joists.

I've kept my ancient Wicks cordless drill because it has an excellent
right angle adpator. Even to the point of paying to have a battery
re-celled.

My joists are nominally 16" spacing, so the 18V Bosch Pro with 22mm spade
bit at 12¾" long is OK. The Bosch Pro 10.8V will do the job (I don't rush it
at that size) and is an inch shorter.
The angled adapter gets used only if necessary.

Surely you don't need anything that big! I've quite happily drilled
1"/25mm holes in joist and similar with my 12v Metabo and I'm pretty
sure I've done it with my cheapo 10.8v Titan (Screwfix).

--
Chris Green
·

In article ,
Andrew wrote:
On 14/04/2017 11:53, John Rumm wrote:
On 14/04/2017 02:48, sm_jamieson wrote:
I was looking for a drill angle adapter like this:
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Powe...ies/d80/p40354
But most of them have bad reviews - the angle bearing just does not last.
Can anyone recommend a decent one ?

Not sure how good it is, but Rutlands were touting this the other day:

http://www.rutlands.co.uk/sp+angle-d...fessional+1305



The main problem with angle drills is the lack of 'energy' you
can exert to make the bit chomp into the wood, when you are
standing, lying or kneeling at an awkward angle to start with.
And then you have to apply lateral force as well.

I usually have to resort to using various bits of timber as
levers to push the bit into the timber being drilled, else
you just apply a lateral force to wrong part of the angled
gearbox.

When I wired our first house - 1964 - power drills weren't as widespread as
they are today. I used a brace & bit. A ratchet bit allowed this.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England

On Friday, April 14, 2017 at 2:48:02 AM UTC+1, sm_jamieson wrote:
I was looking for a drill angle adapter like this:
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Powe...ies/d80/p40354
But most of them have bad reviews - the angle bearing just does not last.
Can anyone recommend a decent one ?
Thanks,
Simon.

You'll never guess what - actually you will.

I went to put away the new toolstation angle adapter - in a drawer that is the obvious one for putting angle adaptors away in, but obviously not the obvious drawer for looking for one.

And there was an unopened Aldi one from who knows how many years ago! The Aldi one has a keyed chuck whereas the toolstation one is keyless.
But the body plastic moulding looks identical - and just like several other cheap ones on the market. Obviously all rebadged from China.

So now I have two.

Simon.

Chris Green wrote:
PeterC wrote:

My joists are nominally 16" spacing, so the 18V Bosch Pro with 22mm spade
bit at 12¾" long is OK

Surely you don't need anything that big!

I don't have a right-angle adapter (and my flexible drive is just for
light duty jobs) so when I need to drill holes in joists, I use a stubby
Wood Beaver in my impact driver (much shorter than my drill/driver) it
is very noisy, but damned fast ...

https://its.co.uk/pd/Wood-Beaver_ARMWWBNP4PCSET.htm

On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 15:03:30 +0100, Chris Green wrote:

My joists are nominally 16" spacing, so the 18V Bosch Pro with 22mm spade
bit at 12¾" long is OK. The Bosch Pro 10.8V will do the job (I don't rush it
at that size) and is an inch shorter.
The angled adapter gets used only if necessary.

Surely you don't need anything that big! I've quite happily drilled
1"/25mm holes in joist and similar with my 12v Metabo and I'm pretty
sure I've done it with my cheapo 10.8v Titan (Screwfix).

If it's the one that I'm using at the time... The 12V Mak would do it but is
longer; as I said, the 10.8V is OK as well.

Here you go:
https://its.co.uk/pd/DDA351Z5-Makita...AKDDA351Z5.htm
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 09:40:36 -0700 (PDT), sm_jamieson wrote:

On Friday, April 14, 2017 at 2:48:02 AM UTC+1, sm_jamieson wrote:
I was looking for a drill angle adapter like this:
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Powe...ies/d80/p40354
But most of them have bad reviews - the angle bearing just does not last.
Can anyone recommend a decent one ?
Thanks,
Simon.

You'll never guess what - actually you will.

I went to put away the new toolstation angle adapter - in a drawer that is the obvious one for putting angle adaptors away in, but obviously not the obvious drawer for looking for one.

And there was an unopened Aldi one from who knows how many years ago! The Aldi one has a keyed chuck whereas the toolstation one is keyless.
But the body plastic moulding looks identical - and just like several other cheap ones on the market. Obviously all rebadged from China.

So now I have two.

Simon.

Spontaneous reproduction - the Aldi one didn't exist until you got the TS
one.
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

sm_jamieson wrote:
I was looking for a drill angle adapter like this:
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Powe...ies/d80/p40354
But most of them have bad reviews - the angle bearing just does not last.
Can anyone recommend a decent one ?
Thanks,
Simon.

Have you considered putting a chuck on a 100 mm angle grinder I did and
it works, you can buy a cheap chuck with the same thread (internal)as
the grinder on ebay

On 16/04/2017 11:40, F Murtz wrote:
sm_jamieson wrote:
I was looking for a drill angle adapter like this:
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Powe...ies/d80/p40354
But most of them have bad reviews - the angle bearing just does not last.
Can anyone recommend a decent one ?
Thanks,
Simon.

Have you considered putting a chuck on a 100 mm angle grinder I did and
it works, you can buy a cheap chuck with the same thread (internal)as
the grinder on ebay

How fast does that spin?

You've never need reverse?

GB wrote:
On 16/04/2017 11:40, F Murtz wrote:
sm_jamieson wrote:
I was looking for a drill angle adapter like this:
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Powe...ies/d80/p40354
But most of them have bad reviews - the angle bearing just does not
last.
Can anyone recommend a decent one ?
Thanks,
Simon.

Have you considered putting a chuck on a 100 mm angle grinder I did and
it works, you can buy a cheap chuck with the same thread (internal)as
the grinder on ebay

How fast does that spin?

Too fast but depends on what you are drilling (I don't think I would use
hole saws )you can get variable speed angle grinders, has worked for me

You've never need reverse?
Very rarely, When do you use reverse?

On Sunday, 16 April 2017 12:28:36 UTC+1, F Murtz wrote:
GB wrote:
On 16/04/2017 11:40, F Murtz wrote:
sm_jamieson wrote:
I was looking for a drill angle adapter like this:
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Powe...ies/d80/p40354
But most of them have bad reviews - the angle bearing just does not
last.
Can anyone recommend a decent one ?
Thanks,
Simon.

Have you considered putting a chuck on a 100 mm angle grinder I did and
it works, you can buy a cheap chuck with the same thread (internal)as
the grinder on ebay

How fast does that spin?

Too fast but depends on what you are drilling (I don't think I would use
hole saws )you can get variable speed angle grinders, has worked for me

You've never need reverse?
Very rarely, When do you use reverse?

Maybe he wants a tool that will do every known job in the universe.

I did a job once where I had to fall back on a very old drill, and using an auger it required reverse. With a glove on it's not hard to rotate it a turn or so by hand.


NT

On 16/04/2017 13:07, wrote:
On Sunday, 16 April 2017 12:28:36 UTC+1, F Murtz wrote:
GB wrote:
On 16/04/2017 11:40, F Murtz wrote:
sm_jamieson wrote:
I was looking for a drill angle adapter like this:
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Powe...ies/d80/p40354
But most of them have bad reviews - the angle bearing just does not
last.
Can anyone recommend a decent one ?
Thanks,
Simon.

Have you considered putting a chuck on a 100 mm angle grinder I did and
it works, you can buy a cheap chuck with the same thread (internal)as
the grinder on ebay

How fast does that spin?

Too fast but depends on what you are drilling (I don't think I would use
hole saws )you can get variable speed angle grinders, has worked for me

You've never need reverse?
Very rarely, When do you use reverse?

Maybe he wants a tool that will do every known job in the universe.

I don't think the right angle drive adapters work well, and proper right
angle drills are very expensive. So, this seems quite a neat bodge, as
the chucks are just over a fiver on ebay.

Please forgive me for thinking of a couple of possible drawbacks and
asking Mr Murtz about those before buying.



I did a job once where I had to fall back on a very old drill, and using an auger it required reverse. With a glove on it's not hard to rotate it a turn or so by hand.


NT

In article ,
GB wrote:
I don't think the right angle drive adapters work well, and proper right
angle drills are very expensive.

Which is why I've hung on to that Wicks cordless drill. You remove the
chuck (one hand fixing), fit the adaptor which locks to the drill body in
a variety of positions, and fit the chuck to it. So the combination can be
used one handed if needed. It is a bit more unwieldy than a pukka right
angle drill, but generally does what I want it for.

--
*Plagiarism saves time *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"GB" wrote in message
news
On 16/04/2017 13:07, wrote:
On Sunday, 16 April 2017 12:28:36 UTC+1, F Murtz wrote:
GB wrote:
On 16/04/2017 11:40, F Murtz wrote:
sm_jamieson wrote:
I was looking for a drill angle adapter like this:
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Powe...ies/d80/p40354
But most of them have bad reviews - the angle bearing just does not
last.
Can anyone recommend a decent one ?
Thanks,
Simon.

Have you considered putting a chuck on a 100 mm angle grinder I did
and
it works, you can buy a cheap chuck with the same thread (internal)as
the grinder on ebay

How fast does that spin?

Too fast but depends on what you are drilling (I don't think I would use
hole saws )you can get variable speed angle grinders, has worked
for me

You've never need reverse?
Very rarely, When do you use reverse?

Maybe he wants a tool that will do every known job in the universe.

I don't think the right angle drive adapters work well, and proper right
angle drills are very expensive. So, this seems quite a neat bodge, as the
chucks are just over a fiver on ebay.

Please forgive me for thinking of a couple of possible drawbacks and
asking Mr Murtz about those before buying.

A Jap would at least have the decency to disembowel itself.

Dont make a mess of the carpet.

I did a job once where I had to fall back on a very old drill, and using
an auger it required reverse. With a glove on it's not hard to rotate it
a turn or so by hand.