Hi

I want to replace the R80 downlighters in our bathroom with IP65 LED units.

Is this notifiable work under Part P? (I am not a certified electrician).

Best regards

David

On 28/01/2017 11:19, wrote:
Hi

I want to replace the R80 downlighters in our bathroom with IP65 LED units.

Is this notifiable work under Part P? (I am not a certified electrician).

No, like for like replacement is fine.




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Hi

I want to replace the R80 downlighters in our bathroom with IP65 LED units.

Is this notifiable work under Part P? (I am not a certified electrician).

No, like for like replacement is fine.


Hi John

Thanks for your answer, so would replacing R80 halogen with IP65 LED integrated unit count as like-for-like?

Best regards

David

On 1/28/2017 3:32 PM, wrote:
Hi

I want to replace the R80 downlighters in our bathroom with IP65 LED units.

Is this notifiable work under Part P? (I am not a certified electrician).

No, like for like replacement is fine.


Hi John

Thanks for your answer, so would replacing R80 halogen with IP65 LED integrated unit count as like-for-like?

Best regards

David


"Like for like" is sometimes difficult to define (the same sort of
criterion is also used in other industries). However, the fact that you
understand IP65 and thought to ask the question gives me confidence in
your ability. More to the point, who is to know!

On 28/01/17 11:19, wrote:
Hi

I want to replace the R80 downlighters in our bathroom with IP65 LED units.


My LED replacement cheapskate alternative, keeping the existing
downlighter fitting.

https://app.box.com/s/v8uzwrmi1qoj0nhh0mb1dieb3ijd7t4m

This is using a Golf Ball styled E14/SES 3W LED bulb from Poundland with
an ES/SES adaptor from Amazon poked through a enlarged hole (circular
sheet punch) in a scrap freebie CD, that was persuaded (er, bent
crazily) through the fixture opening.

Wanway E27 to E14 Socket Converter, ES to SES
(97p free delivery on the slow boat from china)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0076W21CA

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Adrian C

On Saturday, 28 January 2017 15:32:17 UTC, wrote:
Hi

I want to replace the R80 downlighters in our bathroom with IP65 LED units.

Is this notifiable work under Part P? (I am not a certified electrician).

No, like for like replacement is fine.


Hi John

Thanks for your answer, so would replacing R80 halogen with IP65 LED integrated unit count as like-for-like?

Best regards

David

I suspect few diyers would care.

On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 11:10:28 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Saturday, 28 January 2017 15:32:17 UTC, wrote:
Hi

I want to replace the R80 downlighters in our bathroom with IP65 LED units.

Is this notifiable work under Part P? (I am not a certified electrician).

No, like for like replacement is fine.


Hi John

Thanks for your answer, so would replacing R80 halogen with IP65 LED integrated unit count as like-for-like?

Best regards

David

I suspect few diyers would care.

I suspect that translates to 'I don't know'.

On 28/01/2017 15:32, wrote:
Hi

I want to replace the R80 downlighters in our bathroom with IP65 LED units.

Is this notifiable work under Part P? (I am not a certified electrician).

No, like for like replacement is fine.


Hi John

Thanks for your answer, so would replacing R80 halogen with IP65 LED integrated unit count as like-for-like?

Yes... replacing one light fitting with another would be like for like.

Extending the circuit by adding and additional fitting would not be a
like for like change.

Given I have never met anyone who has notified LABC for an electrical
only job[1], the whole question seems to be a bit of a moot point.

[1] I asked a local BCO once how many building notices they get for
electrical jobs on their own (i.e. not part of other building work). He
thought for a bit and said "none so far"!

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On 29/01/2017 06:45, John Rumm wrote:

Extending the circuit by adding and additional fitting would not be a
like for like change.


And even that would probably not be notifiable.

https://www.niceic.com/Niceic.com/me...-Factsheet.pdf

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Adam

On 29/01/2017 10:12, ARW wrote:
On 29/01/2017 06:45, John Rumm wrote:

Extending the circuit by adding and additional fitting would not be a
like for like change.


And even that would probably not be notifiable.

https://www.niceic.com/Niceic.com/me...-Factsheet.pdf

Even with the reductions in scope, I would have thought this particular
example would be caught by

"C) Any addition or alteration to existing circuits in a special location"

As a bathroom remains a special location.


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On 29/01/2017 14:36, John Rumm wrote:
On 29/01/2017 10:12, ARW wrote:
On 29/01/2017 06:45, John Rumm wrote:

Extending the circuit by adding and additional fitting would not be a
like for like change.


And even that would probably not be notifiable.

https://www.niceic.com/Niceic.com/me...-Factsheet.pdf


Even with the reductions in scope, I would have thought this particular
example would be caught by

"C) Any addition or alteration to existing circuits in a special location"

As a bathroom remains a special location.


Only the zones around the bath and shower are special locations. If the
ceiling is higher than 2.25m then it is outside the zones and is not
prat P notifiable.


Note that the link I gave does not call the room a bathroom but "a room
containing a bath or shower".


Cheers


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Adam

Thanks for all the replies to my question. Very helpful.

David