I've just been told by a bathroom company, somewhat to my surprise, that
current regs forbid washing machines in bathrooms.

I thought they were allowed assuming
- outside Zone 2
- No socket, wired in
- proper protection on the circuit.

Can someone confirm or deny this?

Andy

Vir Campestris wrote:
I've just been told by a bathroom company, somewhat to my surprise, that
current regs forbid washing machines in bathrooms.

I thought they were allowed assuming
- outside Zone 2
- No socket, wired in
- proper protection on the circuit.

Can someone confirm or deny this?

Andy

Since you have no other reply, I'll guess that it's because no-one has
yet tested a washing machine for ingress protection.

It's an interesting question though. I hope someone has a more
knowledgeable reply.

Vir Campestris wrote:
I've just been told by a bathroom company, somewhat to my surprise, that
current regs forbid washing machines in bathrooms.

I thought they were allowed assuming
- outside Zone 2
- No socket, wired in
- proper protection on the circuit.

Can someone confirm or deny this?

From the horse's mouth:

http://electrical.theiet.org/wiring-...-701/index.cfm

"Washing machines and tumble dryers may be installed in a bathroom
provided they a

* supplied from a switched fused flex outlet installed outside the
zones (socket outlets are only allowed 3 m horizontally from the
boundary of zone 1);
* protected by a 30 mA RCD;
* and permitted for such installation by the manufacturer."

It's the last one that's likely to give you trouble - unless the
manufacturer says it's OK in a bathroom, then it's not allowed.

Mike

On Monday, 23 January 2017 14:01:13 UTC, Mike Humphrey wrote:
* and permitted for such installation by the manufacturer."
It's the last one that's likely to give you trouble - unless the
manufacturer says it's OK in a bathroom, then it's not allowed.

If the manufacturer *doesn't* say it's *not* suitable, then it's allowed?

Or does such permission have to be actively given?

Owain

In article ,
Mike Humphrey wrote:
* and permitted for such installation by the manufacturer."

It's the last one that's likely to give you trouble - unless the
manufacturer says it's OK in a bathroom, then it's not allowed.

Yes. They'd last far better in some outside damp utility room.

I'd guess my kitchen has at least as 'unfriendly' atmospheric conditions
as my bathroom. The tiles certainly need cleaning more frequently.

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On Mon, 23 Jan 2017 14:01:11 -0000, Mike Humphrey wrote:

Vir Campestris wrote:
I've just been told by a bathroom company, somewhat to my surprise, that
current regs forbid washing machines in bathrooms.

I thought they were allowed assuming
- outside Zone 2
- No socket, wired in
- proper protection on the circuit.

Can someone confirm or deny this?

From the horse's mouth:

http://electrical.theiet.org/wiring-...-701/index.cfm

"Washing machines and tumble dryers may be installed in a bathroom
provided they a

* supplied from a switched fused flex outlet installed outside the
zones (socket outlets are only allowed 3 m horizontally from the
boundary of zone 1);
* protected by a 30 mA RCD;
* and permitted for such installation by the manufacturer."

It's the last one that's likely to give you trouble - unless the
manufacturer says it's OK in a bathroom, then it's not allowed.

If it's ok in a kitchen, it's ok in a bathroom. Both are equally damp and wet and steamy.

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On Sun, 22 Jan 2017 23:01:35 -0000, Vir Campestris wrote:

I've just been told by a bathroom company, somewhat to my surprise, that
current regs forbid washing machines in bathrooms.

I thought they were allowed assuming
- outside Zone 2
- No socket, wired in
- proper protection on the circuit.

Can someone confirm or deny this?

Andy

Ignore them and fit it yourself afterwards.

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James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2017 14:01:11 -0000, Mike Humphrey
wrote:
Vir Campestris wrote:
I've just been told by a bathroom company, somewhat to my surprise,
that current regs forbid washing machines in bathrooms.

I thought they were allowed assuming
- outside Zone 2
- No socket, wired in
- proper protection on the circuit.

Can someone confirm or deny this?

From the horse's mouth:

http://electrical.theiet.org/wiring-...-701/index.cfm

"Washing machines and tumble dryers may be installed in a bathroom
provided they a

* supplied from a switched fused flex outlet installed outside the
zones (socket outlets are only allowed 3 m horizontally from the
boundary of zone 1);
* protected by a 30 mA RCD;
* and permitted for such installation by the manufacturer."

It's the last one that's likely to give you trouble - unless the
manufacturer says it's OK in a bathroom, then it's not allowed.

If it's ok in a kitchen, it's ok in a bathroom. Both are equally
damp and wet and steamy.

I have never lived in a house that has a damp, wet and steamy kitchen.

On Mon, 23 Jan 2017 17:16:41 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2017 14:01:11 -0000, Mike Humphrey
wrote:
Vir Campestris wrote:
I've just been told by a bathroom company, somewhat to my surprise,
that current regs forbid washing machines in bathrooms.

I thought they were allowed assuming
- outside Zone 2
- No socket, wired in
- proper protection on the circuit.

Can someone confirm or deny this?

From the horse's mouth:

http://electrical.theiet.org/wiring-...-701/index.cfm

"Washing machines and tumble dryers may be installed in a bathroom
provided they a

* supplied from a switched fused flex outlet installed outside the
zones (socket outlets are only allowed 3 m horizontally from the
boundary of zone 1);
* protected by a 30 mA RCD;
* and permitted for such installation by the manufacturer."

It's the last one that's likely to give you trouble - unless the
manufacturer says it's OK in a bathroom, then it's not allowed.

If it's ok in a kitchen, it's ok in a bathroom. Both are equally
damp and wet and steamy.

I have never lived in a house that has a damp, wet and steamy kitchen.

Splashing while filling pots from the sink is possible. Steam from pans and kettles is possible, Just like a bathroom.

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On Sunday, 22 January 2017 23:01:35 UTC, Vir Campestris wrote:
I've just been told by a bathroom company, somewhat to my surprise, that
current regs forbid washing machines in bathrooms.

I thought they were allowed assuming
- outside Zone 2
- No socket, wired in
- proper protection on the circuit.

Can someone confirm or deny this?

Andy

I think the problem is the control panel switches on the washing machine.

When I first rented villas I was surprised to see washing machines in
bathrooms - but if there is space it makes more sense than a kitchen. Pants
down - in the washer.

On 23/01/2017 17:55, harry wrote:
On Sunday, 22 January 2017 23:01:35 UTC, Vir Campestris wrote:
I've just been told by a bathroom company, somewhat to my surprise, that
current regs forbid washing machines in bathrooms.

I thought they were allowed assuming
- outside Zone 2
- No socket, wired in
- proper protection on the circuit.

Can someone confirm or deny this?

Andy

I think the problem is the control panel switches on the washing machine.

Boilers are allowed in a bathroom as long as they are in a cupboard with
doors.

On 22/01/2017 23:01, Vir Campestris wrote:

I've just been told by a bathroom company, somewhat to my surprise, that
current regs forbid washing machines in bathrooms.

They don't explicitly. They did (until recently) forbid sockets - now
they are permitted but only in very large rooms since they need to be 3m
outside of zone 1.

I thought they were allowed assuming
- outside Zone 2
- No socket, wired in
- proper protection on the circuit.

That's usually the approach. However any appliance in a bathroom also
needs to be "appropriate" for the installation location. Not all
bathrooms are created equal. One that frequently gets wet from steam /
spray would be less suitable than one that remains ostensibly dry.


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On Mon, 23 Jan 2017 18:08:47 -0000, DerbyBorn wrote:

When I first rented villas I was surprised to see washing machines in
bathrooms - but if there is space it makes more sense than a kitchen. Pants
down - in the washer.

Seems a bit off a dirty idea to me, having it near a toilet. But I guess a shower is there too.

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On 23/01/2017 15:40, wrote:
On Monday, 23 January 2017 14:01:13 UTC, Mike Humphrey wrote:
* and permitted for such installation by the manufacturer."
It's the last one that's likely to give you trouble - unless the
manufacturer says it's OK in a bathroom, then it's not allowed.

If the manufacturer *doesn't* say it's *not* suitable, then it's allowed?

Or does such permission have to be actively given?


Won't these be the same washing machines that they fit in bathrooms
across the rest of the EU?

The same apart from theirs having silly plugs on:-)


--
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On 23/01/2017 10:38, Dan S. MacAbre wrote:
Vir Campestris wrote:
I've just been told by a bathroom company, somewhat to my surprise, that
current regs forbid washing machines in bathrooms.

I thought they were allowed assuming
- outside Zone 2
- No socket, wired in
- proper protection on the circuit.

Can someone confirm or deny this?

Andy

Since you have no other reply, I'll guess that it's because no-one has
yet tested a washing machine for ingress protection.

It's an interesting question though. I hope someone has a more
knowledgeable reply.

AFAIK IP ratings do not apply to items outside of zone 2.

--
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On 23/01/2017 18:14, Bod wrote:
On 23/01/2017 17:55, harry wrote:
On Sunday, 22 January 2017 23:01:35 UTC, Vir Campestris wrote:
I've just been told by a bathroom company, somewhat to my surprise, that
current regs forbid washing machines in bathrooms.

I thought they were allowed assuming
- outside Zone 2
- No socket, wired in
- proper protection on the circuit.

Can someone confirm or deny this?

Andy

I think the problem is the control panel switches on the washing machine.

Boilers are allowed in a bathroom as long as they are in a cupboard with
doors.

If boilers are allowed in cupboards then washing machines can also ,
IMO. They both have control panels.

On 23/01/2017 18:08, DerbyBorn wrote:
When I first rented villas I was surprised to see washing machines in
bathrooms - but if there is space it makes more sense than a kitchen. Pants
down - in the washer.


You have a point as I was told this over Christmas.

Lou "Adam, don't you ever again take your clothes off in my kitchen,
dump them on the floor and then walk naked past my me and parents[1]
saying "the washer need putting on I'm going for a bath""

[1] I did not know her parents were there until I opened the living room
door.


--
Adam

On Mon, 23 Jan 2017 19:42:55 -0000, ARW wrote:

On 23/01/2017 18:08, DerbyBorn wrote:
When I first rented villas I was surprised to see washing machines in
bathrooms - but if there is space it makes more sense than a kitchen. Pants
down - in the washer.


You have a point as I was told this over Christmas.

Lou "Adam, don't you ever again take your clothes off in my kitchen,
dump them on the floor and then walk naked past my me and parents[1]
saying "the washer need putting on I'm going for a bath""

[1] I did not know her parents were there until I opened the living room
door.

Got yerself a young un have you?

--
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James Wilkinson Sword wrote
DerbyBorn wrote

When I first rented villas I was surprised to see washing
machines in bathrooms - but if there is space it makes
more sense than a kitchen. Pants down - in the washer.

Seems a bit off a dirty idea to me, having it near a toilet.
But I guess a shower is there too.

Some jurisdictions don't allow a washing machine in the
kitchen, presumably in case you wash ****ty nappys in there.

On 23/01/2017 19:42, ARW wrote:
On 23/01/2017 18:08, DerbyBorn wrote:
When I first rented villas I was surprised to see washing machines in
bathrooms - but if there is space it makes more sense than a kitchen.
Pants
down - in the washer.


You have a point as I was told this over Christmas.

Lou "Adam, don't you ever again take your clothes off in my kitchen,
dump them on the floor and then walk naked past my me and parents[1]
saying "the washer need putting on I'm going for a bath""


Is there a pressure washer which Lou knows how to use? If yes, I think
you were very lucky indeed not to have experienced a much more
eye-watering response to your exhortation.

--
Robin
reply-to address is (intended to be) valid

On Monday, 23 January 2017 20:51:49 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
James Wilkinson Sword wrote
DerbyBorn wrote

When I first rented villas I was surprised to see washing
machines in bathrooms - but if there is space it makes
more sense than a kitchen. Pants down - in the washer.

Seems a bit off a dirty idea to me, having it near a toilet.
But I guess a shower is there too.

Some jurisdictions don't allow a washing machine in the
kitchen, presumably in case you wash ****ty nappys in there.

they consider washing powder to toxic for a kitchen.


NT

On Sun, 22 Jan 2017 23:01:35 +0000, Vir Campestris
wrote:

I've just been told by a bathroom company, somewhat to my surprise, that
current regs forbid washing machines in bathrooms.

I thought they were allowed assuming
- outside Zone 2
- No socket, wired in
- proper protection on the circuit.

Can someone confirm or deny this?

When I did this decades ago - and I think it may have changed - I was
told that the metal chassis of the washing machine required to be
separately earthed to the plumbing (as well as the electrical earth).
No socket was allowed. It was wired into a fused connection unit (13
amps).

On Mon, 23 Jan 2017 21:10:36 -0000, wrote:

On Monday, 23 January 2017 20:51:49 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
James Wilkinson Sword wrote
DerbyBorn wrote

When I first rented villas I was surprised to see washing
machines in bathrooms - but if there is space it makes
more sense than a kitchen. Pants down - in the washer.

Seems a bit off a dirty idea to me, having it near a toilet.
But I guess a shower is there too.

Some jurisdictions don't allow a washing machine in the
kitchen, presumably in case you wash ****ty nappys in there.

they consider washing powder to toxic for a kitchen.

This only goes to show rules should be ignored.

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wrote in message
...
On Monday, 23 January 2017 20:51:49 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
James Wilkinson Sword wrote
DerbyBorn wrote

When I first rented villas I was surprised to see washing
machines in bathrooms - but if there is space it makes
more sense than a kitchen. Pants down - in the washer.

Seems a bit off a dirty idea to me, having it near a toilet.
But I guess a shower is there too.

Some jurisdictions don't allow a washing machine in the
kitchen, presumably in case you wash ****ty nappys in there.

they consider washing powder to toxic for a kitchen.

Even sillier than you usually manage.

Dishwasher powder is much more toxic and is legally fine in kitchens.

In article ,
writes:
On Monday, 23 January 2017 20:51:49 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
James Wilkinson Sword wrote
DerbyBorn wrote

When I first rented villas I was surprised to see washing
machines in bathrooms - but if there is space it makes
more sense than a kitchen. Pants down - in the washer.

Seems a bit off a dirty idea to me, having it near a toilet.
But I guess a shower is there too.

Some jurisdictions don't allow a washing machine in the
kitchen, presumably in case you wash ****ty nappys in there.

they consider washing powder to toxic for a kitchen.

Many years ago, grandmother was staying at my parents' house
(it was probably over Christmas). She decided to make a cake
one afternoon. Fortunately, someone spotted her carefully
measuing out 4oz of dishwasher detergent powder on the scales,
before it went into the cake...

--
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On Mon, 23 Jan 2017 21:57:50 -0000, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

In article ,
writes:
On Monday, 23 January 2017 20:51:49 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
James Wilkinson Sword wrote
DerbyBorn wrote

When I first rented villas I was surprised to see washing
machines in bathrooms - but if there is space it makes
more sense than a kitchen. Pants down - in the washer.

Seems a bit off a dirty idea to me, having it near a toilet.
But I guess a shower is there too.

Some jurisdictions don't allow a washing machine in the
kitchen, presumably in case you wash ****ty nappys in there.

they consider washing powder to toxic for a kitchen.

Many years ago, grandmother was staying at my parents' house
(it was probably over Christmas). She decided to make a cake
one afternoon. Fortunately, someone spotted her carefully
measuing out 4oz of dishwasher detergent powder on the scales,
before it went into the cake...

It would have tasted wrong.

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On Monday, 23 January 2017 19:42:53 UTC, ARW wrote:
Lou "Adam, don't you ever again take your clothes off in my kitchen,
dump them on the floor and then walk naked past my me and parents[1]
saying "the washer need putting on I'm going for a bath""

Yeah, you should have put the washer on yourself.

(I mean the washing machine, not a c*ck ring)

Owain

On 1/23/2017 8:52 PM, Robin wrote:
On 23/01/2017 19:42, ARW wrote:
On 23/01/2017 18:08, DerbyBorn wrote:
When I first rented villas I was surprised to see washing machines in
bathrooms - but if there is space it makes more sense than a kitchen.
Pants
down - in the washer.


You have a point as I was told this over Christmas.

Lou "Adam, don't you ever again take your clothes off in my kitchen,
dump them on the floor and then walk naked past my me and parents[1]
saying "the washer need putting on I'm going for a bath""


Is there a pressure washer which Lou knows how to use? If yes, I think
you were very lucky indeed not to have experienced a much more
eye-watering response to your exhortation.


Reminds me of James Herriott's accounts (in the books, not the TV
series) of how, after a particularly messy experience with a cow, he
would strip off completely and have the farmer hose him down with cold
water.

Made sure the locals talked about him in the pub when he wasn't there.

On Mon, 23 Jan 2017 22:32:07 -0000, newshound wrote:

On 1/23/2017 8:52 PM, Robin wrote:
On 23/01/2017 19:42, ARW wrote:
On 23/01/2017 18:08, DerbyBorn wrote:
When I first rented villas I was surprised to see washing machines in
bathrooms - but if there is space it makes more sense than a kitchen.
Pants
down - in the washer.


You have a point as I was told this over Christmas.

Lou "Adam, don't you ever again take your clothes off in my kitchen,
dump them on the floor and then walk naked past my me and parents[1]
saying "the washer need putting on I'm going for a bath""


Is there a pressure washer which Lou knows how to use? If yes, I think
you were very lucky indeed not to have experienced a much more
eye-watering response to your exhortation.


Reminds me of James Herriott's accounts (in the books, not the TV
series) of how, after a particularly messy experience with a cow, he
would strip off completely and have the farmer hose him down with cold
water.

Made sure the locals talked about him in the pub when he wasn't there.

"Particularly messy experience with a cow" is ambiguous.

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On Mon, 23 Jan 2017 21:20:00 -0000, Scott wrote:

On Sun, 22 Jan 2017 23:01:35 +0000, Vir Campestris
wrote:

I've just been told by a bathroom company, somewhat to my surprise, that
current regs forbid washing machines in bathrooms.

I thought they were allowed assuming
- outside Zone 2
- No socket, wired in
- proper protection on the circuit.

Can someone confirm or deny this?

When I did this decades ago - and I think it may have changed - I was
told that the metal chassis of the washing machine required to be
separately earthed to the plumbing (as well as the electrical earth).

Overkill.

No socket was allowed. It was wired into a fused connection unit (13
amps).

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On Mon, 23 Jan 2017 17:55:36 -0000, harry wrote:

On Sunday, 22 January 2017 23:01:35 UTC, Vir Campestris wrote:
I've just been told by a bathroom company, somewhat to my surprise, that
current regs forbid washing machines in bathrooms.

I thought they were allowed assuming
- outside Zone 2
- No socket, wired in
- proper protection on the circuit.

Can someone confirm or deny this?

Andy

I think the problem is the control panel switches on the washing machine.

Which of course never get wet in a kitchen....

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On Mon, 23 Jan 2017 18:22:47 -0000, John Rumm wrote:

On 22/01/2017 23:01, Vir Campestris wrote:

I've just been told by a bathroom company, somewhat to my surprise, that
current regs forbid washing machines in bathrooms.

They don't explicitly. They did (until recently) forbid sockets - now
they are permitted but only in very large rooms since they need to be 3m
outside of zone 1.

Oops, my shaver socket....

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On Mon, 23 Jan 2017 18:43:22 -0000, ARW wrote:

On 23/01/2017 15:40, wrote:
On Monday, 23 January 2017 14:01:13 UTC, Mike Humphrey wrote:
* and permitted for such installation by the manufacturer."
It's the last one that's likely to give you trouble - unless the
manufacturer says it's OK in a bathroom, then it's not allowed.

If the manufacturer *doesn't* say it's *not* suitable, then it's allowed?

Or does such permission have to be actively given?


Won't these be the same washing machines that they fit in bathrooms
across the rest of the EU?

The same apart from theirs having silly plugs on:-)

Actually their plugs have two good features:
1) They yank out of the socket instead of damaging the cord when you pull the hoover too far.
2) They don't tend to lie on the floor prongs up in the air ready for your bare foot.

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On Monday, 23 January 2017 21:29:24 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
tabbypurr wrote in message
...
On Monday, 23 January 2017 20:51:49 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:

Some jurisdictions don't allow a washing machine in the
kitchen, presumably in case you wash ****ty nappys in there.

they consider washing powder to toxic for a kitchen.

Even sillier than you usually manage.

I didn't say I agreed with it

Dishwasher powder is much more toxic and is legally fine in kitchens.

On Monday, 23 January 2017 21:59:31 UTC, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
tabbypurr writes:
On Monday, 23 January 2017 20:51:49 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:

Some jurisdictions don't allow a washing machine in the
kitchen, presumably in case you wash ****ty nappys in there.

they consider washing powder to toxic for a kitchen.

Many years ago, grandmother was staying at my parents' house
(it was probably over Christmas). She decided to make a cake
one afternoon. Fortunately, someone spotted her carefully
measuing out 4oz of dishwasher detergent powder on the scales,
before it went into the cake...

I'll bet they watched every move after that.


NT

On Mon, 23 Jan 2017 23:00:36 -0000, wrote:

On Monday, 23 January 2017 21:59:31 UTC, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
tabbypurr writes:
On Monday, 23 January 2017 20:51:49 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:

Some jurisdictions don't allow a washing machine in the
kitchen, presumably in case you wash ****ty nappys in there.

they consider washing powder to toxic for a kitchen.

Many years ago, grandmother was staying at my parents' house
(it was probably over Christmas). She decided to make a cake
one afternoon. Fortunately, someone spotted her carefully
measuing out 4oz of dishwasher detergent powder on the scales,
before it went into the cake...

I'll bet they watched every move after that.

Use tablets. Easier to put in the dishwasher, and obvious when served as biscuits.

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eb.com...
On Mon, 23 Jan 2017 22:53:48 -0000, Birdbrain Macaw (now "James
Wilkinson"),
the pathological attention whore of all the uk ngs, blathered again:

* and permitted for such installation by the manufacturer."
It's the last one that's likely to give you trouble - unless the
manufacturer says it's OK in a bathroom, then it's not allowed.

If the manufacturer *doesn't* say it's *not* suitable, then it's
allowed?

Or does such permission have to be actively given?


Won't these be the same washing machines that they fit in bathrooms
across the rest of the EU?

The same apart from theirs having silly plugs on:-)

Actually their plugs have two good features:
1) They yank out of the socket instead of damaging the cord when you pull
the hoover too far.
2) They don't tend to lie on the floor prongs up in the air ready for
your bare foot.

Endlessly babbling idiot! LOL

I have to hand it to you for continually ****ing on the silly PHuckers
parade.
I don't have the patience.
Pity he can't find a job.

On Monday, 23 January 2017 23:00:40 UTC, wrote:
Many years ago, grandmother was staying at my parents' house
....
I'll bet they watched every move after that.

It's usually the children trying to poison off granny, not the other way about.

Owain

On 23/01/2017 21:20, Scott wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2017 23:01:35 +0000, Vir Campestris
wrote:

I've just been told by a bathroom company, somewhat to my surprise, that
current regs forbid washing machines in bathrooms.

I thought they were allowed assuming
- outside Zone 2
- No socket, wired in
- proper protection on the circuit.

Can someone confirm or deny this?

When I did this decades ago - and I think it may have changed - I was
told that the metal chassis of the washing machine required to be
separately earthed to the plumbing (as well as the electrical earth).
No socket was allowed. It was wired into a fused connection unit (13
amps).


You certainly would have had to have made the earth at the FCU part of
the supplementary bonding. Supplementary bonding was introduced with the
15th edition in 1981 and initially the bonding was misinterpreted. See
the 1st two pages of

http://electrical.theiet.org/wiring-...g.cfm?type=pdf

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