....specifically, the one made by Ninka and sold by B&Q:

http://www.diy.com/departments/it-ki...m/97701_BQ.prd

short version http://tinyurl.com/glljtn6

Has anyone here ever installed one? I confess to being baffled by the
single diagrammatic sheet of assembly instructions, and to judge by some of
the comments on the B&Q site I'm not alone.

Most of the procedure is pretty obvious, but the assembly at the base of the
column, the "brake/cam" has me defeated, at least temporarily. I simply
can't fathom how it should be orientated relative to the front of the
cabinet, and how it's supposed to function.

Many thanks.

Here are the instructions:

http://s246.photobucket.com/user/Ber...sel_2.jpg.html

short version http://tinyurl.com/jbadcoe

On 04/01/2017 20:54, Bert Coules wrote:
....specifically, the one made by Ninka and sold by B&Q:

http://www.diy.com/departments/it-ki...m/97701_BQ.prd


short version http://tinyurl.com/glljtn6

Has anyone here ever installed one? I confess to being baffled by the
single diagrammatic sheet of assembly instructions, and to judge by some
of the comments on the B&Q site I'm not alone.

Most of the procedure is pretty obvious, but the assembly at the base of
the column, the "brake/cam" has me defeated, at least temporarily. I
simply can't fathom how it should be orientated relative to the front of
the cabinet, and how it's supposed to function.

Many thanks.


Try Youtube for instructional videos.

Google youtube kitchen carousel

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jim k wrote:
"Bert Coules" Wrote in message:
...specifically, the one made by Ninka and sold by B&Q:

http://www.diy.com/departments/it-ki...m/97701_BQ.prd

short version http://tinyurl.com/glljtn6

Has anyone here ever installed one? I confess to being baffled by the
single diagrammatic sheet of assembly instructions, and to judge by some of
the comments on the B&Q site I'm not alone.

Most of the procedure is pretty obvious, but the assembly at the base of the
column, the "brake/cam" has me defeated, at least temporarily. I simply
can't fathom how it should be orientated relative to the front of the
cabinet, and how it's supposed to function.

Many thanks.



Preshumably the cam stops the thing rotating ad infinitum?

.... and why would you want to do that, it would simply be a nuisance
preventing it from going round and round.

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"Bert Coules" Wrote in message:
...specifically, the one made by Ninka and sold by B&Q:

http://www.diy.com/departments/it-ki...m/97701_BQ.prd

short version http://tinyurl.com/glljtn6

Has anyone here ever installed one? I confess to being baffled by the
single diagrammatic sheet of assembly instructions, and to judge by some of
the comments on the B&Q site I'm not alone.

Most of the procedure is pretty obvious, but the assembly at the base of the
column, the "brake/cam" has me defeated, at least temporarily. I simply
can't fathom how it should be orientated relative to the front of the
cabinet, and how it's supposed to function.

Many thanks.



Preshumably the cam stops the thing rotating ad infinitum?

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Chris Green Wrote in message:
jim k wrote:
"Bert Coules" Wrote in message:
...specifically, the one made by Ninka and sold by B&Q:

http://www.diy.com/departments/it-ki...m/97701_BQ.prd

short version http://tinyurl.com/glljtn6

Has anyone here ever installed one? I confess to being baffled by the
single diagrammatic sheet of assembly instructions, and to judge by some of
the comments on the B&Q site I'm not alone.

Most of the procedure is pretty obvious, but the assembly at the base of the
column, the "brake/cam" has me defeated, at least temporarily. I simply
can't fathom how it should be orientated relative to the front of the
cabinet, and how it's supposed to function.

Many thanks.



Preshumably the cam stops the thing rotating ad infinitum?

... and why would you want to do that, it would simply be a nuisance
preventing it from going round and round.


So you could shut the cupboard door?

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Thanks to everyone for the replies. I think the idea must be to provide a
stop position where the carousel shelves permit the doors to close, but I
still can't fathom out how this is meant to happen. If I can, I'll post
some pictures of the fittings later today.

I still can't fathom out how this is meant to happen. If I can, I'll post
some pictures of the fittings later today.

Go to B&Q and look at theirs, that's what I did with my Wickes ones, it worked!

Simon Mitchelmore wrote:

Go to B&Q and look at theirs, that's what I did with my Wickes ones, it
worked!

Yes, I think that's going to be the only way I'll work it out, though it
will probably have to involve some highly undignified lying on the floor
with a torch. Thanks.

On 05/01/2017 10:01, Bert Coules wrote:
Simon Mitchelmore wrote:

Go to B&Q and look at theirs, that's what I did with my Wickes ones,
it worked!

Yes, I think that's going to be the only way I'll work it out, though it
will probably have to involve some highly undignified lying on the floor
with a torch. Thanks.


What makes you think that the fitter at B&Q got it right?


It's worth reading the reviews:

rubbish instruction
the instructions that come with this item are utterly useless. they are
not worth the paper they are written on.

Easy to fit
Instructions not very clear, but once you get your head around it it's
pretty easy to install, even to retro-fit to old cupboard. Seems
reasonably robust...time will tell!

Instructions were incorrect for positioning of the spindle.


Good luck.

jim k wrote:
Chris Green Wrote in message:
jim k wrote:
"Bert Coules" Wrote in message:
...specifically, the one made by Ninka and sold by B&Q:

http://www.diy.com/departments/it-ki...m/97701_BQ.prd

short version http://tinyurl.com/glljtn6

Has anyone here ever installed one? I confess to being baffled by the
single diagrammatic sheet of assembly instructions, and to judge by some of
the comments on the B&Q site I'm not alone.

Most of the procedure is pretty obvious, but the assembly at the base of the
column, the "brake/cam" has me defeated, at least temporarily. I simply
can't fathom how it should be orientated relative to the front of the
cabinet, and how it's supposed to function.

Many thanks.



Preshumably the cam stops the thing rotating ad infinitum?

... and why would you want to do that, it would simply be a nuisance
preventing it from going round and round.


So you could shut the cupboard door?

But you just go through 360 degrees and back to where you started. If
you're getting something from right at the back it's easier and
quicker to continue turning in the same direction after getting what
you wanted.

--
Chris Green
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"GB" wrote:

It's worth reading the reviews..

I did, though not until after I'd bought it (which I did from a different
supplier, whose site didn't include reviews...).

With the cam device fitted in the only logical place for it to go (there are
moulded lugs with screw holes on the underside of the shelf) it's visible
when the unit is in position. I found a non-B&Q picture of the carousel in
place in a cabinet and it's not in evidence at all, which suggests that I'm
not the only one who's baffled. I think the odds are strong that the B&Q
fitter might, as you suggest, have taken the same approach.

This is the fitting in question. The lower plate isn't necessarily in the
correct position, since it's not yet screwed down:

http://s246.photobucket.com/user/Ber...tting.jpg.html

Short version http://tinyurl.com/h538n87

And here is a trade pictu

http://s246.photobucket.com/user/Ber...7fdd6.png.html

Short version http://tinyurl.com/gw4hzgw

On 05/01/2017 10:57, Bert Coules wrote:
This is the fitting in question. The lower plate isn't necessarily in
the correct position, since it's not yet screwed down:

http://s246.photobucket.com/user/Ber...tting.jpg.html


Short version http://tinyurl.com/h538n87

And here is a trade pictu

http://s246.photobucket.com/user/Ber...7fdd6.png.html


Short version http://tinyurl.com/gw4hzgw


The purpose of the cam is (I guess!) to hold the trays in the position
shown in your photo. So, you can close the doors without risk of the
carousels rotating into the way of the doors.

I can't see the shape of the cam, but at a guess the lug at the front of
your picture should engage with the cam to hold the carousel.

On 05/01/2017 11:10, GB wrote:
On 05/01/2017 10:57, Bert Coules wrote:
This is the fitting in question. The lower plate isn't necessarily in
the correct position, since it's not yet screwed down:

http://s246.photobucket.com/user/Ber...tting.jpg.html



Short version http://tinyurl.com/h538n87

And here is a trade pictu

http://s246.photobucket.com/user/Ber...7fdd6.png.html



Short version http://tinyurl.com/gw4hzgw


The purpose of the cam is (I guess!) to hold the trays in the position
shown in your photo. So, you can close the doors without risk of the
carousels rotating into the way of the doors.

I can't see the shape of the cam, but at a guess the lug at the front of
your picture should engage with the cam to hold the carousel.



I had a look at the instructions, and the lug at the front is referred
to as the cam. The bit at the bottom on the cabinet is referred to as
teh brake fitting plate. They are show in the instructions as lining up.
I think they need to do that when the carousel is in the right position
to close the doors.

Thanks for the new replies. I think the best approach is to temporarily fix
the braking plate (with a single screw) in what seems like the logical
position and see what the effect is.

Well that took a bit of doing but I seem to have got there. After carefully
measuring and calculating the right position of the braking moulding and
finding that the "correct" position wasn't actually correct at all, I set it
up by eye and now all appears well:

http://s246.photobucket.com/user/Ber...itted.jpg.html

Short version http://tinyurl.com/gs4jw3y

The hard-plastic cam slides across the softer-plastic brake and settles into
a central position. I suspect that in time things will wear and the
locating won't be as positive, but for now it works nicely, at least with
the shelves empty. It's possible that the minor jerk necessary to revolve
the shelves will make whatever's stored on them shake and rattle a shade but
that shouldn't matter.

Thanks to all for the thoughts and suggestions.

On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 10:13:44 AM UTC, GB wrote:
On 05/01/2017 10:01, Bert Coules wrote:
Simon Mitchelmore wrote:

Go to B&Q and look at theirs, that's what I did with my Wickes ones,
it worked!

Yes, I think that's going to be the only way I'll work it out, though it
will probably have to involve some highly undignified lying on the floor
with a torch. Thanks.


What makes you think that the fitter at B&Q got it right?


It's worth reading the reviews:

rubbish instruction
the instructions that come with this item are utterly useless. they are
not worth the paper they are written on.

Easy to fit
Instructions not very clear, but once you get your head around it it's
pretty easy to install, even to retro-fit to old cupboard. Seems
reasonably robust...time will tell!

Instructions were incorrect for positioning of the spindle.


Good luck.

We have had ours for ten years and it still works fine.

Jonathan

Jonathan, if you installed it yourself, did you have any problems puzzling
out the fitting?