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ATTN: Mr Pounder Esqui CO2 extinguisher weight
I've got a 2kg CO2, which says tare 2.93kg, gross 4.93kg on the side. It weighs (give or take 0.2kg) 4.2kg, which suggests it is 63.5% full. But shaking it makes no liquid sound. Do I have much in there or not? Should I hear the liquid? Is weight how they test them, or pressure? It says on the side you should recharge if below a certain weight, so I assume the pros weigh them.
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On Sunday, 1 January 2017 19:52:34 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
a kg in it that'll do. Any fire larger than that and I'd use the garden hose. I'm sure I remember hearing CO2 sloshing when it was full. We used to weigh them in our lab and you never heard any sloshing at all. |
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On Sun, 01 Jan 2017 20:29:41 -0000, Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 1 January 2017 19:52:34 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: a kg in it that'll do. Any fire larger than that and I'd use the garden hose. I'm sure I remember hearing CO2 sloshing when it was full. We used to weigh them in our lab and you never heard any sloshing at all. I could be thinking of camping gas. Maybe that's at a higher pressure. You'd think they'd put as much CO2 in as they could, or maybe then they become bombs if they get in the fire. -- Steve Ryder covering the US Masters: "Ballesteros felt much better today after a 69 yesterday." |
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Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 1 January 2017 19:52:34 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: a kg in it that'll do. Any fire larger than that and I'd use the garden hose. I'm sure I remember hearing CO2 sloshing when it was full. We used to weigh them in our lab and you never heard any sloshing at all. Correct Mr Mason. Liquid carbon dioxide does not slosh around, except in Mr Hucker's pathetic trolling attention seeking head. The extinguishers are filled to 70% capacity. The remainder is ullage. Part of the servicing procedure was to turn the extinguisher upside down and listen to anything that made a noise. This is because the syphon (spelling) tube could fall off. If this happens the extinguisher will not work. The tube falling off in a CO2 is almost unheard of. But, I have known it to be common in a certain manufacture of fire extinguisher. For many years I followed the servicing procedure for CO2s and heard nothing. ****! PHucker has baited me and I took the bait. |
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On Sun, 01 Jan 2017 21:13:52 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote: On Sunday, 1 January 2017 19:52:34 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: a kg in it that'll do. Any fire larger than that and I'd use the garden hose. I'm sure I remember hearing CO2 sloshing when it was full. We used to weigh them in our lab and you never heard any sloshing at all. Correct Mr Mason. Liquid carbon dioxide does not slosh around, except in Mr Hucker's pathetic trolling attention seeking head. The extinguishers are filled to 70% capacity. The remainder is ullage. Part of the servicing procedure was to turn the extinguisher upside down and listen to anything that made a noise. This is because the syphon (spelling) tube could fall off. If this happens the extinguisher will not work. The tube falling off in a CO2 is almost unheard of. But, I have known it to be common in a certain manufacture of fire extinguisher. For many years I followed the servicing procedure for CO2s and heard nothing. ****! PHucker has baited me and I took the bait. I did not. I was asking for information from someone I knew would know. It's about the only thing you do know about :-P -- The teacher wrote "Like I ain't had no fun in months" on the board and then she said, "Timmy, how should I correct that?" Timmy replied, "Maybe get a new boyfriend?" |
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James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jan 2017 21:13:52 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Simon Mason wrote: On Sunday, 1 January 2017 19:52:34 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: a kg in it that'll do. Any fire larger than that and I'd use the garden hose. I'm sure I remember hearing CO2 sloshing when it was full. We used to weigh them in our lab and you never heard any sloshing at all. Correct Mr Mason. Liquid carbon dioxide does not slosh around, except in Mr Hucker's pathetic trolling attention seeking head. The extinguishers are filled to 70% capacity. The remainder is ullage. Part of the servicing procedure was to turn the extinguisher upside down and listen to anything that made a noise. This is because the syphon (spelling) tube could fall off. If this happens the extinguisher will not work. The tube falling off in a CO2 is almost unheard of. But, I have known it to be common in a certain manufacture of fire extinguisher. For many years I followed the servicing procedure for CO2s and heard nothing. ****! PHucker has baited me and I took the bait. I did not. I was asking for information from someone I knew would know. It's about the only thing you do know about :-P Oh, why not ask your good friend Paul Pot? |
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On Sun, 01 Jan 2017 21:32:36 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2017 21:13:52 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Simon Mason wrote: On Sunday, 1 January 2017 19:52:34 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: a kg in it that'll do. Any fire larger than that and I'd use the garden hose. I'm sure I remember hearing CO2 sloshing when it was full. We used to weigh them in our lab and you never heard any sloshing at all. Correct Mr Mason. Liquid carbon dioxide does not slosh around, except in Mr Hucker's pathetic trolling attention seeking head. The extinguishers are filled to 70% capacity. The remainder is ullage. Part of the servicing procedure was to turn the extinguisher upside down and listen to anything that made a noise. This is because the syphon (spelling) tube could fall off. If this happens the extinguisher will not work. The tube falling off in a CO2 is almost unheard of. But, I have known it to be common in a certain manufacture of fire extinguisher. For many years I followed the servicing procedure for CO2s and heard nothing. ****! PHucker has baited me and I took the bait. I did not. I was asking for information from someone I knew would know. It's about the only thing you do know about :-P Oh, why not ask your good friend Paul Pot? I wasn't aware he'd worked with fire extinguishers. -- Warning: Do not attempt to stop chainsaw with testicles. |
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James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jan 2017 21:32:36 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2017 21:13:52 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Simon Mason wrote: On Sunday, 1 January 2017 19:52:34 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: a kg in it that'll do. Any fire larger than that and I'd use the garden hose. I'm sure I remember hearing CO2 sloshing when it was full. We used to weigh them in our lab and you never heard any sloshing at all. Correct Mr Mason. Liquid carbon dioxide does not slosh around, except in Mr Hucker's pathetic trolling attention seeking head. The extinguishers are filled to 70% capacity. The remainder is ullage. Part of the servicing procedure was to turn the extinguisher upside down and listen to anything that made a noise. This is because the syphon (spelling) tube could fall off. If this happens the extinguisher will not work. The tube falling off in a CO2 is almost unheard of. But, I have known it to be common in a certain manufacture of fire extinguisher. For many years I followed the servicing procedure for CO2s and heard nothing. ****! PHucker has baited me and I took the bait. I did not. I was asking for information from someone I knew would know. It's about the only thing you do know about :-P Oh, why not ask your good friend Paul Pot? I wasn't aware he'd worked with fire extinguishers. Don't lie. |
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James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jan 2017 22:08:23 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2017 21:32:36 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2017 21:13:52 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Simon Mason wrote: On Sunday, 1 January 2017 19:52:34 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: a kg in it that'll do. Any fire larger than that and I'd use the garden hose. I'm sure I remember hearing CO2 sloshing when it was full. We used to weigh them in our lab and you never heard any sloshing at all. Correct Mr Mason. Liquid carbon dioxide does not slosh around, except in Mr Hucker's pathetic trolling attention seeking head. The extinguishers are filled to 70% capacity. The remainder is ullage. Part of the servicing procedure was to turn the extinguisher upside down and listen to anything that made a noise. This is because the syphon (spelling) tube could fall off. If this happens the extinguisher will not work. The tube falling off in a CO2 is almost unheard of. But, I have known it to be common in a certain manufacture of fire extinguisher. For many years I followed the servicing procedure for CO2s and heard nothing. ****! PHucker has baited me and I took the bait. I did not. I was asking for information from someone I knew would know. It's about the only thing you do know about :-P Oh, why not ask your good friend Paul Pot? I wasn't aware he'd worked with fire extinguishers. Don't lie. All I know is he worked for you at some point, but I thought that was as a builder or something. You've done other things apart from extinguishers? Don't be silly. TTFN |
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On Sun, 01 Jan 2017 22:39:48 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2017 22:08:23 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2017 21:32:36 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2017 21:13:52 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Simon Mason wrote: On Sunday, 1 January 2017 19:52:34 UTC, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: a kg in it that'll do. Any fire larger than that and I'd use the garden hose. I'm sure I remember hearing CO2 sloshing when it was full. We used to weigh them in our lab and you never heard any sloshing at all. Correct Mr Mason. Liquid carbon dioxide does not slosh around, except in Mr Hucker's pathetic trolling attention seeking head. The extinguishers are filled to 70% capacity. The remainder is ullage. Part of the servicing procedure was to turn the extinguisher upside down and listen to anything that made a noise. This is because the syphon (spelling) tube could fall off. If this happens the extinguisher will not work. The tube falling off in a CO2 is almost unheard of. But, I have known it to be common in a certain manufacture of fire extinguisher. For many years I followed the servicing procedure for CO2s and heard nothing. ****! PHucker has baited me and I took the bait. I did not. I was asking for information from someone I knew would know. It's about the only thing you do know about :-P Oh, why not ask your good friend Paul Pot? I wasn't aware he'd worked with fire extinguishers. Don't lie. All I know is he worked for you at some point, but I thought that was as a builder or something. You've done other things apart from extinguishers? Don't be silly. TTFN I'm not being silly. I don't know that much about either of you. -- If you believe in creation as espoused in the Bible, then Adam and Eve's children would actually have had to have sex with one another for the earth to have become populated. This is surely proof positive that Alabama was at one time the Garden of Eden. |
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On Sunday, 1 January 2017 21:14:10 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Correct Mr Mason. Liquid carbon dioxide does not slosh around, except in Mr Hucker's pathetic trolling attention seeking head. He might have been thinking of the old water filled ones. http://www.firesafe.org.uk/types-use...guishers/#ext2 |
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On 01/01/2017 19:15, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
If you have not used it, yours has a slow leak. You are allowed 10% loss. ...... to BSI..... I think. You do not want to try thinking. There is a reason we say "do not to try to teach an old dog new tricks" -- Adam |
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Huge wrote:
On 2017-01-02, Phil L wrote: [256 lines snipped] Learn to snip you pair of pricks Oh, the irony. I C&P an extra 7kb of ****e into the reply so that they had to scroll for half an hour to read one line. That's not irony |
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On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 06:21:37 -0000, Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 1 January 2017 21:14:10 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Correct Mr Mason. Liquid carbon dioxide does not slosh around, except in Mr Hucker's pathetic trolling attention seeking head. He might have been thinking of the old water filled ones. http://www.firesafe.org.uk/types-use...guishers/#ext2 No, definitely compressed gas. Might not be an extinguisher though. I still don't see why they don't put far more CO2 in them (to liquid pressure) so they last longer. -- Be careful about reading health books, you may die of a misprint. -- Mark Twain |
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On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 17:56:10 -0000, Phil L wrote:
Huge wrote: On 2017-01-02, Phil L wrote: [256 lines snipped] Learn to snip you pair of pricks Oh, the irony. I C&P an extra 7kb of ****e into the reply so that they had to scroll for half an hour to read one line. That's not irony I've got a wheelmouse, it took a couple of seconds. And there's always CTRL-End. -- Collectively, humans have spent almost 13,261 years watching the Gangnam Style video. |
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On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 18:08:32 -0000, Huge wrote:
On 2017-01-02, Phil L wrote: Huge wrote: On 2017-01-02, Phil L wrote: [256 lines snipped] Learn to snip you pair of pricks Oh, the irony. I C&P an extra 7kb of ****e into the reply so that they had to scroll for half an hour to read one line. That's not irony No, indeed not. It's ****wittery of the highest order. Is there anybody (besides yourself) who you don't think is a ****wit? -- If European immigrants voluntarily went to America and it turned out like that, how come Britain sent a load of convicts to Australia and it turned out better? |
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James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 06:21:37 -0000, Simon Mason wrote: On Sunday, 1 January 2017 21:14:10 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Correct Mr Mason. Liquid carbon dioxide does not slosh around, except in Mr Hucker's pathetic trolling attention seeking head. He might have been thinking of the old water filled ones. http://www.firesafe.org.uk/types-use...guishers/#ext2 No, definitely compressed gas. Might not be an extinguisher though. I still don't see why they don't put far more CO2 in them (to liquid pressure) so they last longer. "Might not be an extinguisher though". WTF? Okay, I'll take the bait. But not for long. The 2 kg CO2 is sized and rated to hold 2kg of CO2 and is priced as such. The 5kg CO2 is sized and rated to hold 5kg of CO2 and is priced as such. Did I try to explain the word ullage to you? The ullage is the space in the cylinder that provides the pressure. It's old. But it may help you. http://www.crisis-response.com/forum...e;topic=5696.0 |
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On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 18:44:17 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 06:21:37 -0000, Simon Mason wrote: On Sunday, 1 January 2017 21:14:10 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Correct Mr Mason. Liquid carbon dioxide does not slosh around, except in Mr Hucker's pathetic trolling attention seeking head. He might have been thinking of the old water filled ones. http://www.firesafe.org.uk/types-use...guishers/#ext2 No, definitely compressed gas. Might not be an extinguisher though. I still don't see why they don't put far more CO2 in them (to liquid pressure) so they last longer. "Might not be an extinguisher though". WTF? My memory of sloshing compressed gas. Okay, I'll take the bait. But not for long. The 2 kg CO2 is sized and rated to hold 2kg of CO2 and is priced as such. The 5kg CO2 is sized and rated to hold 5kg of CO2 and is priced as such. Did I try to explain the word ullage to you? The ullage is the space in the cylinder that provides the pressure. It's old. But it may help you. http://www.crisis-response.com/forum...e;topic=5696.0 That says "Liquid fill is to 2/3 of the capacity of the cylinder" - so there IS liquid on there. A lot of it. -- Riots in Birmingham last month caused over £1 million worth of improvements. |
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James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 18:44:17 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 06:21:37 -0000, Simon Mason wrote: On Sunday, 1 January 2017 21:14:10 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Correct Mr Mason. Liquid carbon dioxide does not slosh around, except in Mr Hucker's pathetic trolling attention seeking head. He might have been thinking of the old water filled ones. http://www.firesafe.org.uk/types-use...guishers/#ext2 No, definitely compressed gas. Might not be an extinguisher though. I still don't see why they don't put far more CO2 in them (to liquid pressure) so they last longer. "Might not be an extinguisher though". WTF? My memory of sloshing compressed gas. Okay, I'll take the bait. But not for long. The 2 kg CO2 is sized and rated to hold 2kg of CO2 and is priced as such. The 5kg CO2 is sized and rated to hold 5kg of CO2 and is priced as such. Did I try to explain the word ullage to you? The ullage is the space in the cylinder that provides the pressure. It's old. But it may help you. http://www.crisis-response.com/forum...e;topic=5696.0 That says "Liquid fill is to 2/3 of the capacity of the cylinder" - so there IS liquid on there. A lot of it. The other 1/3 is ullage................. pressure. I have a CO2 which is full, I can tell by just picking it up. I can't hear the liquid CO2 sloshing about when I shake it. I have asked my Old Master your question. I admit that I do not know the answer. |
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On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 19:31:48 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 18:44:17 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 06:21:37 -0000, Simon Mason wrote: On Sunday, 1 January 2017 21:14:10 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Correct Mr Mason. Liquid carbon dioxide does not slosh around, except in Mr Hucker's pathetic trolling attention seeking head. He might have been thinking of the old water filled ones. http://www.firesafe.org.uk/types-use...guishers/#ext2 No, definitely compressed gas. Might not be an extinguisher though. I still don't see why they don't put far more CO2 in them (to liquid pressure) so they last longer. "Might not be an extinguisher though". WTF? My memory of sloshing compressed gas. Okay, I'll take the bait. But not for long. The 2 kg CO2 is sized and rated to hold 2kg of CO2 and is priced as such. The 5kg CO2 is sized and rated to hold 5kg of CO2 and is priced as such. Did I try to explain the word ullage to you? The ullage is the space in the cylinder that provides the pressure. It's old. But it may help you. http://www.crisis-response.com/forum...e;topic=5696.0 That says "Liquid fill is to 2/3 of the capacity of the cylinder" - so there IS liquid on there. A lot of it. The other 1/3 is ullage................. pressure. I have a CO2 which is full, I can tell by just picking it up. I can't hear the liquid CO2 sloshing about when I shake it. I have asked my Old Master your question. I admit that I do not know the answer. Well if it never sloshes it can't be liquid. Perhaps your link was incorrect? If it is, then I don't understand why they don't add more CO2 until it is liquid. Then you could put out a bigger fire. I can find nothing on google about it. -- When a woman wears leather clothing, a man's heart beats quicker, his throat gets dry, he goes weak in the knees, and he begins to think irrationally. Ever wonder why? She smells like a new truck! |
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James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 19:31:48 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 18:44:17 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 06:21:37 -0000, Simon Mason wrote: On Sunday, 1 January 2017 21:14:10 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Correct Mr Mason. Liquid carbon dioxide does not slosh around, except in Mr Hucker's pathetic trolling attention seeking head. He might have been thinking of the old water filled ones. http://www.firesafe.org.uk/types-use...guishers/#ext2 No, definitely compressed gas. Might not be an extinguisher though. I still don't see why they don't put far more CO2 in them (to liquid pressure) so they last longer. "Might not be an extinguisher though". WTF? My memory of sloshing compressed gas. Okay, I'll take the bait. But not for long. The 2 kg CO2 is sized and rated to hold 2kg of CO2 and is priced as such. The 5kg CO2 is sized and rated to hold 5kg of CO2 and is priced as such. Did I try to explain the word ullage to you? The ullage is the space in the cylinder that provides the pressure. It's old. But it may help you. http://www.crisis-response.com/forum...e;topic=5696.0 That says "Liquid fill is to 2/3 of the capacity of the cylinder" - so there IS liquid on there. A lot of it. The other 1/3 is ullage................. pressure. I have a CO2 which is full, I can tell by just picking it up. I can't hear the liquid CO2 sloshing about when I shake it. I have asked my Old Master your question. I admit that I do not know the answer. Well if it never sloshes it can't be liquid. Perhaps your link was incorrect? If it is, then I don't understand why they don't add more CO2 until it is liquid. Then you could put out a bigger fire. I can find nothing on google about it. If you could not even understand a sump plug, you are too stupid too understand a fire extinguisher. Good troll, bollock brains. Now, **** off to some other group and die. |
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On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 21:44:59 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 19:31:48 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 18:44:17 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 06:21:37 -0000, Simon Mason wrote: On Sunday, 1 January 2017 21:14:10 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Correct Mr Mason. Liquid carbon dioxide does not slosh around, except in Mr Hucker's pathetic trolling attention seeking head. He might have been thinking of the old water filled ones. http://www.firesafe.org.uk/types-use...guishers/#ext2 No, definitely compressed gas. Might not be an extinguisher though. I still don't see why they don't put far more CO2 in them (to liquid pressure) so they last longer. "Might not be an extinguisher though". WTF? My memory of sloshing compressed gas. Okay, I'll take the bait. But not for long. The 2 kg CO2 is sized and rated to hold 2kg of CO2 and is priced as such. The 5kg CO2 is sized and rated to hold 5kg of CO2 and is priced as such. Did I try to explain the word ullage to you? The ullage is the space in the cylinder that provides the pressure. It's old. But it may help you. http://www.crisis-response.com/forum...e;topic=5696.0 That says "Liquid fill is to 2/3 of the capacity of the cylinder" - so there IS liquid on there. A lot of it. The other 1/3 is ullage................. pressure. I have a CO2 which is full, I can tell by just picking it up. I can't hear the liquid CO2 sloshing about when I shake it. I have asked my Old Master your question. I admit that I do not know the answer. Well if it never sloshes it can't be liquid. Perhaps your link was incorrect? If it is, then I don't understand why they don't add more CO2 until it is liquid. Then you could put out a bigger fire. I can find nothing on google about it. If you could not even understand a sump plug, you are too stupid too understand a fire extinguisher. Good troll, bollock brains. Now, **** off to some other group and die. Oh dear, I was giving you a chance to impart your knowledge. It appears you do not know. -- Paddy takes his new wife to bed on their wedding night. She undresses, lies on the bed spread-eagled and says "You know what I want, don't you?" "Yeah," says Paddy. "The whole flipping bed by the looks of it!" |
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"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message news On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 19:31:48 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 18:44:17 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 06:21:37 -0000, Simon Mason wrote: On Sunday, 1 January 2017 21:14:10 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Correct Mr Mason. Liquid carbon dioxide does not slosh around, except in Mr Hucker's pathetic trolling attention seeking head. He might have been thinking of the old water filled ones. http://www.firesafe.org.uk/types-use...guishers/#ext2 No, definitely compressed gas. Might not be an extinguisher though. I still don't see why they don't put far more CO2 in them (to liquid pressure) so they last longer. "Might not be an extinguisher though". WTF? My memory of sloshing compressed gas. Okay, I'll take the bait. But not for long. The 2 kg CO2 is sized and rated to hold 2kg of CO2 and is priced as such. The 5kg CO2 is sized and rated to hold 5kg of CO2 and is priced as such. Did I try to explain the word ullage to you? The ullage is the space in the cylinder that provides the pressure. It's old. But it may help you. http://www.crisis-response.com/forum...e;topic=5696.0 That says "Liquid fill is to 2/3 of the capacity of the cylinder" - so there IS liquid on there. A lot of it. The other 1/3 is ullage................. pressure. I have a CO2 which is full, I can tell by just picking it up. I can't hear the liquid CO2 sloshing about when I shake it. I have asked my Old Master your question. I admit that I do not know the answer. Well if it never sloshes it can't be liquid. Plenty of liquids don't slosh audibly. Perhaps your link was incorrect? No its not. If it is, It isnt. then I don't understand why they don't add more CO2 until it is liquid. It is liquid. Then you could put out a bigger fire. I can find nothing on google about it. Yes, you are that hopeless. |
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Huge wrote:
On 2017-01-02, Phil L wrote: Huge wrote: On 2017-01-02, Phil L wrote: [256 lines snipped] Learn to snip you pair of pricks Oh, the irony. I C&P an extra 7kb of ****e into the reply so that they had to scroll for half an hour to read one line. That's not irony No, indeed not. It's ****wittery of the highest order. The ****wittery was already taking place, I doubled it in order to highlight the ****wittery that you called irony and then denied it was irony. Oh, the irony. |
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On Tue, 03 Jan 2017 16:14:12 -0000, Phil L wrote:
Huge wrote: On 2017-01-02, Phil L wrote: Huge wrote: On 2017-01-02, Phil L wrote: [256 lines snipped] Learn to snip you pair of pricks Oh, the irony. I C&P an extra 7kb of ****e into the reply so that they had to scroll for half an hour to read one line. That's not irony No, indeed not. It's ****wittery of the highest order. The ****wittery was already taking place, I doubled it in order to highlight the ****wittery that you called irony and then denied it was irony. Oh, the irony. If you see a murder taking place, do you murder two people to show it was wrong? -- Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus, Managers are from Uranus. |
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Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 18:44:17 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 06:21:37 -0000, Simon Mason wrote: On Sunday, 1 January 2017 21:14:10 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Correct Mr Mason. Liquid carbon dioxide does not slosh around, except in Mr Hucker's pathetic trolling attention seeking head. He might have been thinking of the old water filled ones. http://www.firesafe.org.uk/types-use...guishers/#ext2 No, definitely compressed gas. Might not be an extinguisher though. I still don't see why they don't put far more CO2 in them (to liquid pressure) so they last longer. "Might not be an extinguisher though". WTF? My memory of sloshing compressed gas. Okay, I'll take the bait. But not for long. The 2 kg CO2 is sized and rated to hold 2kg of CO2 and is priced as such. The 5kg CO2 is sized and rated to hold 5kg of CO2 and is priced as such. Did I try to explain the word ullage to you? The ullage is the space in the cylinder that provides the pressure. It's old. But it may help you. http://www.crisis-response.com/forum...e;topic=5696.0 That says "Liquid fill is to 2/3 of the capacity of the cylinder" - so there IS liquid on there. A lot of it. The other 1/3 is ullage................. pressure. I have a CO2 which is full, I can tell by just picking it up. I can't hear the liquid CO2 sloshing about when I shake it. I have asked my Old Master your question. I admit that I do not know the answer. Because the pressurised gaseous CO2 in the cylinder dampens any movement of the liquid CO2. |
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On Tue, 03 Jan 2017 16:57:10 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 18:44:17 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 06:21:37 -0000, Simon Mason wrote: On Sunday, 1 January 2017 21:14:10 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Correct Mr Mason. Liquid carbon dioxide does not slosh around, except in Mr Hucker's pathetic trolling attention seeking head. He might have been thinking of the old water filled ones. http://www.firesafe.org.uk/types-use...guishers/#ext2 No, definitely compressed gas. Might not be an extinguisher though. I still don't see why they don't put far more CO2 in them (to liquid pressure) so they last longer. "Might not be an extinguisher though". WTF? My memory of sloshing compressed gas. Okay, I'll take the bait. But not for long. The 2 kg CO2 is sized and rated to hold 2kg of CO2 and is priced as such. The 5kg CO2 is sized and rated to hold 5kg of CO2 and is priced as such. Did I try to explain the word ullage to you? The ullage is the space in the cylinder that provides the pressure. It's old. But it may help you. http://www.crisis-response.com/forum...e;topic=5696.0 That says "Liquid fill is to 2/3 of the capacity of the cylinder" - so there IS liquid on there. A lot of it. The other 1/3 is ullage................. pressure. I have a CO2 which is full, I can tell by just picking it up. I can't hear the liquid CO2 sloshing about when I shake it. I have asked my Old Master your question. I admit that I do not know the answer. Because the pressurised gaseous CO2 in the cylinder dampens any movement of the liquid CO2. I prefer this explanation I just fund on Google: "Why can't you here it slosh? Because it is a supercritical fluid under normal conditions, having the density properties of a fluid, but the flow characteristics of a gas, hence it won't slosh around if you shake it. If you cool a cylinder of CO2 enough, however, the liquid CO2 ceases to be supercritical and will then slosh around." -- A Woman's Rule of Thumb: If it has tyres or testicles, you're going to have trouble with it. |
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James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 03 Jan 2017 16:57:10 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 18:44:17 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 06:21:37 -0000, Simon Mason wrote: On Sunday, 1 January 2017 21:14:10 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Correct Mr Mason. Liquid carbon dioxide does not slosh around, except in Mr Hucker's pathetic trolling attention seeking head. He might have been thinking of the old water filled ones. http://www.firesafe.org.uk/types-use...guishers/#ext2 No, definitely compressed gas. Might not be an extinguisher though. I still don't see why they don't put far more CO2 in them (to liquid pressure) so they last longer. "Might not be an extinguisher though". WTF? My memory of sloshing compressed gas. Okay, I'll take the bait. But not for long. The 2 kg CO2 is sized and rated to hold 2kg of CO2 and is priced as such. The 5kg CO2 is sized and rated to hold 5kg of CO2 and is priced as such. Did I try to explain the word ullage to you? The ullage is the space in the cylinder that provides the pressure. It's old. But it may help you. http://www.crisis-response.com/forum...e;topic=5696.0 That says "Liquid fill is to 2/3 of the capacity of the cylinder" - so there IS liquid on there. A lot of it. The other 1/3 is ullage................. pressure. I have a CO2 which is full, I can tell by just picking it up. I can't hear the liquid CO2 sloshing about when I shake it. I have asked my Old Master your question. I admit that I do not know the answer. Because the pressurised gaseous CO2 in the cylinder dampens any movement of the liquid CO2. I prefer this explanation I just fund on Google: "Why can't you here it slosh? Because it is a supercritical fluid under normal conditions, having the density properties of a fluid, but the flow characteristics of a gas, hence it won't slosh around if you shake it. If you cool a cylinder of CO2 enough, however, the liquid CO2 ceases to be supercritical and will then slosh around." I also saw that, and also saw the answer being debunked. ("Here" in this case is spelt hear) Much as you would like to create another of your inane arguments with me Mr Hucker, I will not take your bait. Others probable will. My answer came from a man who for over 30 years was the biggest independent fire extinguisher operator in Lancashire, employing a lot of men. There is nothing that he does not know about fire extinguishers. End off. Go troll elsewhere. |
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On Tue, 03 Jan 2017 17:28:21 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Tue, 03 Jan 2017 16:57:10 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 18:44:17 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 06:21:37 -0000, Simon Mason wrote: On Sunday, 1 January 2017 21:14:10 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Correct Mr Mason. Liquid carbon dioxide does not slosh around, except in Mr Hucker's pathetic trolling attention seeking head. He might have been thinking of the old water filled ones. http://www.firesafe.org.uk/types-use...guishers/#ext2 No, definitely compressed gas. Might not be an extinguisher though. I still don't see why they don't put far more CO2 in them (to liquid pressure) so they last longer. "Might not be an extinguisher though". WTF? My memory of sloshing compressed gas. Okay, I'll take the bait. But not for long. The 2 kg CO2 is sized and rated to hold 2kg of CO2 and is priced as such. The 5kg CO2 is sized and rated to hold 5kg of CO2 and is priced as such. Did I try to explain the word ullage to you? The ullage is the space in the cylinder that provides the pressure. It's old. But it may help you. http://www.crisis-response.com/forum...e;topic=5696.0 That says "Liquid fill is to 2/3 of the capacity of the cylinder" - so there IS liquid on there. A lot of it. The other 1/3 is ullage................. pressure. I have a CO2 which is full, I can tell by just picking it up. I can't hear the liquid CO2 sloshing about when I shake it. I have asked my Old Master your question. I admit that I do not know the answer. Because the pressurised gaseous CO2 in the cylinder dampens any movement of the liquid CO2. I prefer this explanation I just fund on Google: "Why can't you here it slosh? Because it is a supercritical fluid under normal conditions, having the density properties of a fluid, but the flow characteristics of a gas, hence it won't slosh around if you shake it. If you cool a cylinder of CO2 enough, however, the liquid CO2 ceases to be supercritical and will then slosh around." I also saw that, and also saw the answer being debunked. ("Here" in this case is spelt hear) Much as you would like to create another of your inane arguments with me Mr Hucker, I will not take your bait. Others probable will. My answer came from a man who for over 30 years was the biggest independent fire extinguisher operator in Lancashire, employing a lot of men. There is nothing that he does not know about fire extinguishers. End off. Go troll elsewhere. I am not baiting, I am interested in the answer. I don't believe your master's one. Fitting them doesn't mean he knows how they are made. -- My wife sat down on the couch next to me as I was changing channels. She asked, what's on TV? I said, Dust. And then the fight started... |
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James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 03 Jan 2017 17:28:21 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Tue, 03 Jan 2017 16:57:10 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 18:44:17 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 06:21:37 -0000, Simon Mason wrote: On Sunday, 1 January 2017 21:14:10 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Correct Mr Mason. Liquid carbon dioxide does not slosh around, except in Mr Hucker's pathetic trolling attention seeking head. He might have been thinking of the old water filled ones. http://www.firesafe.org.uk/types-use...guishers/#ext2 No, definitely compressed gas. Might not be an extinguisher though. I still don't see why they don't put far more CO2 in them (to liquid pressure) so they last longer. "Might not be an extinguisher though". WTF? My memory of sloshing compressed gas. Okay, I'll take the bait. But not for long. The 2 kg CO2 is sized and rated to hold 2kg of CO2 and is priced as such. The 5kg CO2 is sized and rated to hold 5kg of CO2 and is priced as such. Did I try to explain the word ullage to you? The ullage is the space in the cylinder that provides the pressure. It's old. But it may help you. http://www.crisis-response.com/forum...e;topic=5696.0 That says "Liquid fill is to 2/3 of the capacity of the cylinder" - so there IS liquid on there. A lot of it. The other 1/3 is ullage................. pressure. I have a CO2 which is full, I can tell by just picking it up. I can't hear the liquid CO2 sloshing about when I shake it. I have asked my Old Master your question. I admit that I do not know the answer. Because the pressurised gaseous CO2 in the cylinder dampens any movement of the liquid CO2. I prefer this explanation I just fund on Google: "Why can't you here it slosh? Because it is a supercritical fluid under normal conditions, having the density properties of a fluid, but the flow characteristics of a gas, hence it won't slosh around if you shake it. If you cool a cylinder of CO2 enough, however, the liquid CO2 ceases to be supercritical and will then slosh around." I also saw that, and also saw the answer being debunked. ("Here" in this case is spelt hear) Much as you would like to create another of your inane arguments with me Mr Hucker, I will not take your bait. Others probable will. My answer came from a man who for over 30 years was the biggest independent fire extinguisher operator in Lancashire, employing a lot of men. There is nothing that he does not know about fire extinguishers. End off. Go troll elsewhere. I am not baiting, I am interested in the answer. I don't believe your master's one. Fitting them doesn't mean he knows how they are made. He manufactured them |
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On Tue, 03 Jan 2017 17:46:03 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Tue, 03 Jan 2017 17:28:21 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Tue, 03 Jan 2017 16:57:10 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 18:44:17 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 06:21:37 -0000, Simon Mason wrote: On Sunday, 1 January 2017 21:14:10 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Correct Mr Mason. Liquid carbon dioxide does not slosh around, except in Mr Hucker's pathetic trolling attention seeking head. He might have been thinking of the old water filled ones. http://www.firesafe.org.uk/types-use...guishers/#ext2 No, definitely compressed gas. Might not be an extinguisher though. I still don't see why they don't put far more CO2 in them (to liquid pressure) so they last longer. "Might not be an extinguisher though". WTF? My memory of sloshing compressed gas. Okay, I'll take the bait. But not for long. The 2 kg CO2 is sized and rated to hold 2kg of CO2 and is priced as such. The 5kg CO2 is sized and rated to hold 5kg of CO2 and is priced as such. Did I try to explain the word ullage to you? The ullage is the space in the cylinder that provides the pressure. It's old. But it may help you. http://www.crisis-response.com/forum...e;topic=5696.0 That says "Liquid fill is to 2/3 of the capacity of the cylinder" - so there IS liquid on there. A lot of it. The other 1/3 is ullage................. pressure. I have a CO2 which is full, I can tell by just picking it up. I can't hear the liquid CO2 sloshing about when I shake it. I have asked my Old Master your question. I admit that I do not know the answer. Because the pressurised gaseous CO2 in the cylinder dampens any movement of the liquid CO2. I prefer this explanation I just fund on Google: "Why can't you here it slosh? Because it is a supercritical fluid under normal conditions, having the density properties of a fluid, but the flow characteristics of a gas, hence it won't slosh around if you shake it. If you cool a cylinder of CO2 enough, however, the liquid CO2 ceases to be supercritical and will then slosh around." I also saw that, and also saw the answer being debunked. ("Here" in this case is spelt hear) Much as you would like to create another of your inane arguments with me Mr Hucker, I will not take your bait. Others probable will. My answer came from a man who for over 30 years was the biggest independent fire extinguisher operator in Lancashire, employing a lot of men. There is nothing that he does not know about fire extinguishers. End off. Go troll elsewhere. I am not baiting, I am interested in the answer. I don't believe your master's one. Fitting them doesn't mean he knows how they are made. He manufactured them Pressure of gas can't stop liquid sloshing. I'd like a website of a manufacturer with the explanation. -- god said: "The Divergence of the B Field = 0 The Curl of the E Field + the partial time derivative of the B field = 0 The Divergence of the D field = the charge density The Curl of the H field - the partial time derivative of the D field = the current density" and there was light, and he saw that it was good and of constant speed. |
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