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Is there such a things?
I.e. I'm looking for something like this:- http://www.screwfix.com/p/appleby-du...ning-box/60079 but for fitting into a plaster on brick/breezeblock wall. .... or is the technique simply to fit two metal boxes close next to each other? Either way with metal boxes the difficulty will be to finish properly between the two. Would it be permissable to fit a dry-lining box (like the one above) in a plaster/brick wall? It would need a bit of bodging to fix it but would finish properly between the two accessories. I haven't got enough space really to leave enough gap to avoid disintegration of the plaster between the two boxes. -- Chris Green · |
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Chris Green wrote:
... or is the technique simply to fit two metal boxes close next to each other? Either way with metal boxes the difficulty will be to finish properly between the two. Take two metal back boxes, screw on the faceplates, line them up, measure the gap between and cut a spacer of wood to that size. Blank faceplates would work well here as you could lay them on their front. Otherwise, IMO, there's no reason you couldn't use a plastic one or they'd not be legal for use in plasterboard. -- Scott Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket? |
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On 26/12/2016 10:06, Chris Green wrote:
Is there such a things? Yes. No doubt others but this is what I've used https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/AP540.html -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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On 26/12/2016 10:24, Robin wrote:
On 26/12/2016 10:06, Chris Green wrote: Is there such a things? Yes. No doubt others but this is what I've used https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/AP540.html That's a new one to me. Cheers. -- Adam |
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Robin wrote:
On 26/12/2016 10:06, Chris Green wrote: Is there such a things? Yes. No doubt others but this is what I've used https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/AP540.html Aha, thanks! I'd looked at Screwfix etc. but didn't think to try TLC. -- Chris Green · |
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On 26/12/2016 14:23, Chris Green wrote:
Robin wrote: On 26/12/2016 10:06, Chris Green wrote: Is there such a things? Yes. No doubt others but this is what I've used https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/AP540.html Aha, thanks! I'd looked at Screwfix etc. but didn't think to try TLC. Do please note though what they say about only using them with "White Accessories". -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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En el artículo , Robin
escribió: https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/AP540.html Smart. The two sides look isolated from each other, would it be permissible under the regs to use this for power (double socket) and data (e.g. ethernet)? -- (\_/) (='.'=) systemd: the Linux version of Windows 10 (")_(") |
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On Monday, 26 December 2016 16:57:20 UTC, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/AP540.html Smart. The two sides look isolated from each other, Looking closely I don't think they are would it be permissible under the regs to use this for power (double socket) and data (e.g. ethernet)? Yes if there's a divider or if both cables are insulated for the higher voltage. High-voltage ethernet cables should be available http://www.belden.com/blog/industria...iderations.cfm (American site) Owain |
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Chris Green wrote: Is there such a things? I.e. I'm looking for something like this:- http://www.screwfix.com/p/appleby-du...ning-box/60079 but for fitting into a plaster on brick/breezeblock wall. ... or is the technique simply to fit two metal boxes close next to each other? Either way with metal boxes the difficulty will be to finish properly between the two. Would it be permissable to fit a dry-lining box (like the one above) in a plaster/brick wall? It would need a bit of bodging to fix it but would finish properly between the two accessories. I haven't got enough space really to leave enough gap to avoid disintegration of the plaster between the two boxes. assuming you use socket plates with straight edges, you shouldn't see the gap between the two units, so just cut a big hole. Measure carefully when you install the boxes. You could always fill the gap between the two with something from a mastic gun afterwards if it bothers you. -- from KT24 in Surrey, England |
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On Monday, 26 December 2016 10:16:04 UTC, Chris Green wrote:
Is there such a things? I.e. I'm looking for something like this:- http://www.screwfix.com/p/appleby-du...ning-box/60079 but for fitting into a plaster on brick/breezeblock wall. ... or is the technique simply to fit two metal boxes close next to each other? Either way with metal boxes the difficulty will be to finish properly between the two. why? Would it be permissable to fit a dry-lining box (like the one above) in a plaster/brick wall? It would need a bit of bodging to fix it but would finish properly between the two accessories. I haven't got enough space really to leave enough gap to avoid disintegration of the plaster between the two boxes. Add PVA, reinforce it with metal or plastic mesh - or just cover it with gapless faceplates. NT |
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On 26/12/2016 10:06, Chris Green wrote:
Is there such a things? I.e. I'm looking for something like this:- http://www.screwfix.com/p/appleby-du...ning-box/60079 but for fitting into a plaster on brick/breezeblock wall. There are such things, but not that commonly used IME. ... or is the technique simply to fit two metal boxes close next to each other? That works. Either way with metal boxes the difficulty will be to finish properly between the two. Why so? You have plenty of depth in the gap, so its easy to pack with plaster or filler and have it stay put. Would it be permissable to fit a dry-lining box (like the one above) in a plaster/brick wall? It would need a bit of bodging to fix it but would finish properly between the two accessories. I haven't got enough space really to leave enough gap to avoid disintegration of the plaster between the two boxes. Can't see why it would disintegrate. You will need a 1cm gap or so to allow for the overlap of the face plates. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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Chris Green wrote: Is there such a things? I.e. I'm looking for something like this:- http://www.screwfix.com/p/appleby-du...ning-box/60079 but for fitting into a plaster on brick/breezeblock wall. ... or is the technique simply to fit two metal boxes close next to each other? Either way with metal boxes the difficulty will be to finish properly between the two. Would it be permissable to fit a dry-lining box (like the one above) in a plaster/brick wall? It would need a bit of bodging to fix it but would finish properly between the two accessories. I haven't got enough space really to leave enough gap to avoid disintegration of the plaster between the two boxes. TLC sell 'bridge' units that connect any two standard metal boxes together at the right spacing for the plates. -- *If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Monday, 26 December 2016 14:45:24 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
TLC sell 'bridge' units that connect any two standard metal boxes together at the right spacing for the plates. FSVO plates, possibly. Personally I dislike abutted flush faceplates. A couple of conduit bushes and a coupler will tie boxes together nicely. Owain |
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wrote: On Monday, 26 December 2016 14:45:24 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: TLC sell 'bridge' units that connect any two standard metal boxes together at the right spacing for the plates. FSVO plates, possibly. Personally I dislike abutted flush faceplates. A couple of conduit bushes and a coupler will tie boxes together nicely. Done that plenty of times on the surface. -- from KT24 in Surrey, England |
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In article ,
wrote: On Monday, 26 December 2016 14:45:24 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: TLC sell 'bridge' units that connect any two standard metal boxes together at the right spacing for the plates. FSVO plates, possibly. Not quite sure what FSVO is. Personally I dislike abutted flush faceplates. It's sometimes necessary. A couple of conduit bushes and a coupler will tie boxes together nicely. With surface mount metal boxes, yes. But with flush, why bother unless wanting the plates to touch? -- *White with a hint of M42* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Monday, 26 December 2016 15:21:12 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
FSVO plates, possibly. Not quite sure what FSVO is. For Some Value Of Owain |
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