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Zymurgy
 
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Ok, Help !

The vac is in bits as it won't do the vortex thing with the tube in.
Tube out (the flexible sucky thing) it works fine, put it back and the
vortex stops & no pickup (infact seems to chuck it out the front).

Can't see any obvious blockages, and the belt and filters are new.

Any ideas please.

Thanks

Paul.
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Zymurgy wrote:

Ok, Help !

The vac is in bits as it won't do the vortex thing with the tube in.
Tube out (the flexible sucky thing) it works fine, put it back and the
vortex stops & no pickup (infact seems to chuck it out the front).

Can't see any obvious blockages, and the belt and filters are new.

Any ideas please.



Take it to the skip like everyone else does and buy something that works :-)


Thanks

Paul.



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The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Take it to the skip like everyone else does and buy something that works
:-)


Hey! We've got two Dysons, and they both suck better than *any* other
vac I've ever tried, and I've tried a fair few.

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The Natural Philosopher wrote in message ...
Zymurgy wrote:

Ok, Help !

The vac is in bits as it won't do the vortex thing with the tube in.
Tube out (the flexible sucky thing) it works fine, put it back and the
vortex stops & no pickup (infact seems to chuck it out the front).

Can't see any obvious blockages, and the belt and filters are new.

Any ideas please.



Take it to the skip like everyone else does and buy something that works :-)


Thanks

Paul.

Well for summat that work and is well build try a Henry made by
Numatic there very efficiant.
Or go for an Oreck when they sold cheap on QVC

Jon.


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Grunff wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Take it to the skip like everyone else does and buy something that
works :-)



Hey! We've got two Dysons, and they both suck better than *any* other
vac I've ever tried, and I've tried a fair few.


Yeah. Nothing sucks like a dyson....;-)

So why not use nothing instead? :-)


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snip

99% of the blockages on my battle-weary DC01 have been at the
collector intake at the top, but that would mean the hose wouldn't
work either.

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witchy/binarydinosaurs


Also remove the lance / handle from the tube with a sharp pull while holding
the collar of the tube and blowing down the lance. A blockage in the lance
will stop it from working although it works in the standard beater position.

hth

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Dyson DC-01 works perfectly as long as it is maintained


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Witchy wrote
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Help !

Can't see any obvious blockages, and the belt and filters are new.


You have a blockage between the brushbar and the upright tube that
goes to the collector;


There was indeed. A great big plug of wadding, but I had to delve a
little deeeper into the innards to find it.

presumably you've checked the obvious thing behind the rubber flap at the
back of the dyson next to where the flexible tube connects?


Yes, I peered in there, but there was nothing obvious which is why I
panicked ;-)

99% of the blockages on my battle-weary DC01 have been at the
collector intake at the top


Mine too. I throw my 15mm pipe bender spring down to clear these out.

All happy and healthy again now. One more unto the breech.

Take it to the tip indeed.... Harrumph.

Cheers

Paul.
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Witchy wrote
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DC01

All happy and healthy again now. One more unto the breech.


I'm going to start visiting my local tip to resurrect 'dead' dysons I
think.


There's a bloke at Blackbushe market who does just that. Well, he
sells reconditioned ones which I think are factory (warranty) returns.
I doubt there are many casualties in the field, as from what I can see
they appear to be everlasting :-)

Beats trying to get another job in datacentre IT :-/


heh. The IT job market is picking up again. What's your speciality ?

Cheers,

Paul.


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Witchy wrote .
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Witchy wrote
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DC01


Beats trying to get another job in datacentre IT :-/


heh. The IT job market is picking up again. What's your speciality ?


Datacentres running Compaq hardware, be it AlphaServers, VAXen or
bloody peecees. Winduhs, OpenVMS and various flavours of unix.
2 jobs have come up in the last week though, neither involving compaq
but I've got the skills and the money int bad. Makes a change!


heh. I think we're getting way off the topic of DC01's, but i'm
originally a VMS specialist (started on 11/750's through 6XXX's,
4XXX's and Alphas) now working on various Unix variants myself.

Cheers,

Paul.
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On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 02:42:49 UTC, Andy Hall wrote:

heh. I think we're getting way off the topic of DC01's, but i'm
originally a VMS specialist (started on 11/750's through 6XXX's,
4XXX's and Alphas) now working on various Unix variants myself.


A latecomer, eH? I started on a 780...before the 750 existed!

Well, Vaxes are still a vacuum cleaner, and everybody knows that
Redmond ripped off the best bits of VMS into NT.


Well, they nicked the lead designer, since he had become unhappy at DEC.

VAXes are one of the ultimate CISC machines, and work quite nicely; I
have two!
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On 8 Feb 2004 09:18:58 GMT, "Bob Eager" wrote:

On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 02:42:49 UTC, Andy Hall wrote:

heh. I think we're getting way off the topic of DC01's, but i'm
originally a VMS specialist (started on 11/750's through 6XXX's,
4XXX's and Alphas) now working on various Unix variants myself.


A latecomer, eH? I started on a 780...before the 750 existed!

Well, Vaxes are still a vacuum cleaner, and everybody knows that
Redmond ripped off the best bits of VMS into NT.


Well, they nicked the lead designer, since he had become unhappy at DEC.


.... and IIRC, he didn't last long at Bill's place either.


VAXes are one of the ultimate CISC machines, and work quite nicely; I
have two!



780s? Where do you keep them? Who pays for the electricity?


..andy

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On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 10:24:25 UTC, Andy Hall wrote:

VAXes are one of the ultimate CISC machines, and work quite nicely; I
have two!


780s? Where do you keep them? Who pays for the electricity?


No, MicroVAXes...but the leccy bill is bad with all the PCs...

Gas powered PCs anyone. I bet even IMM hasn't got solar panels on each
one yet...

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On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 13:36:02 UTC, Andy Hall wrote:

One of the ones with the paddle switches to put in the IPL?


Not allowed to say IPL on a DEC machine! :-)
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On 8 Feb 2004 14:44:20 GMT, "Bob Eager" wrote:

On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 13:36:02 UTC, Andy Hall wrote:

One of the ones with the paddle switches to put in the IPL?


Not allowed to say IPL on a DEC machine! :-)


Oh of course. That's an IBMism. What did DEC call it?


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"Bob Eager" wrote
Andy Hall wrote:

heh. I think we're getting way off the topic of DC01's, but i'm
originally a VMS specialist (started on 11/750's through 6XXX's,
4XXX's and Alphas) now working on various Unix variants myself.


A latecomer, eH? I started on a 780...before the 750 existed!


Well, i've worked on all the early stuff TBH, the only thing i didn't
touch was a PDP/11 or a MicroVAX 1. Had a MicroVAX 2 though !

Still a youngster, me .. ;-)

P.
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On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 15:31:14 UTC, Andy Hall wrote:

On 8 Feb 2004 14:44:20 GMT, "Bob Eager" wrote:

On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 13:36:02 UTC, Andy Hall wrote:

One of the ones with the paddle switches to put in the IPL?


Not allowed to say IPL on a DEC machine! :-)


Oh of course. That's an IBMism. What did DEC call it?


Key-in bootstrap....I think.
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On 8 Feb 2004 14:44:20 GMT, "Bob Eager" wrote:

On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 10:24:25 UTC, Andy Hall wrote:

VAXes are one of the ultimate CISC machines, and work quite nicely; I
have two!


780s? Where do you keep them? Who pays for the electricity?


No, MicroVAXes...but the leccy bill is bad with all the PCs...


How many PCs...?

cheers,
Pete.
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On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 18:47:14 UTC, Pete C
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No, MicroVAXes...but the leccy bill is bad with all the PCs...


How many PCs...?


Five permanently on...others on demand, no more than 3 or 4 more at once
though.

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"Zymurgy" wrote
| "Bob Eager" wrote
| Andy Hall wrote:
| heh. I think we're getting way off the topic of DC01's, but
| i'm originally a VMS specialist (started on 11/750's through
| 6XXX's, 4XXX's and Alphas) now working on various Unix
| variants myself.
| A latecomer, eH? I started on a 780...before the 750 existed!

I remember sharing a Vax 11/780 with about 6MB of RAM with forty-odd other
students at university ... it was slow, even by the standards of the day.

Oh, the joys of word-processing on Vecce.

| Well, i've worked on all the early stuff TBH, the only thing i
| didn't touch was a PDP/11 or a MicroVAX 1. Had a MicroVAX 2 though !

I had a Dragon 32 :-(

But it was still faster than sharing a Vax 11/780 with about 6MB of RAM with
forty-odd other students :-)

I also remember a secondhand Honeywell 6080 at Aber that used to belong to
NASA and them just introducing a new thing called TSS - Time Sharing
Service - as though a stack of cards wasn't too good for students already.

Owain


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On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 23:51:32 +0000, Witchy
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Dave Cutler was one of the 3 original VMS programming team members
(though he wasn't there for that long) and went to Ken Olsen with the
idea of a desktop OS for personal computers, but since Ken is famously
quoted as saying 'I don't believe there's a reason for anyone to have
a computer in the home' amongst other things the idea was rebuffed so
Dave upped sticks and went to uncle bill. Where apparently he didn't
last too long either.


I've worked with VMS for 20-odd years, but despite this I still haven't come
across what looks to be an entirely reliable biography of the guy. While he
did write a lot of the original VMS kernel, he left the team after V1.0 and
there has been a hell of a lot of development since then. So, he sowed some
great seeds but there are many other talented O/S engineers to thank. He
did not contribute to the development of clustering, for example, an area
where VMS still stands head and shoulders above the rest. Imho...

Afaik, he fell out with DEC management over the cancellation of Mica, the
possible VMS successor on new RISC hardware codenamed Prism (pretty ironic
given that the Alpha eventually supplanted Vax). History tells us he moved
to Microsoft in 1988.

Although some sources claim he left MS in 95, I know one NT kernel developer
who started there after that and Cutler was definitely still around a few
years later. Although he did seem to have a somewhat loose and creative
contractural arrangement - when supposed to be at work he would sometimes be
on vacation, and while supposedly on vacation could often be found in at
weekends rewriting someone else's code :-)

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On 9 Feb 2004 11:57:34 GMT, "Bob Eager" wrote:

I agree...but in fact the PDP-8 did have something called
'microprogramming' which is where the confusion probably arises.


Whatever. I remember thumbing those plastic toggle switches on the
PDP8 to enter the program. 12 bit words as I recall.....

PoP

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On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 17:16:55 UTC, PoP wrote:

On 9 Feb 2004 11:57:34 GMT, "Bob Eager" wrote:

I agree...but in fact the PDP-8 did have something called
'microprogramming' which is where the confusion probably arises.


Whatever. I remember thumbing those plastic toggle switches on the
PDP8 to enter the program. 12 bit words as I recall.....


Yes....shades of yellow and brown on a PDP-8, red/maroon an a PDP-11,
blue on other (e.g. PDP-10 and 15). I have a picture of the toggle
switches on a PDP-10.... 36 of them, all in a row!

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On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 17:16:55 +0000, PoP wrote:

On 9 Feb 2004 11:57:34 GMT, "Bob Eager" wrote:

I agree...but in fact the PDP-8 did have something called
'microprogramming' which is where the confusion probably arises.


Whatever. I remember thumbing those plastic toggle switches on the
PDP8 to enter the program. 12 bit words as I recall.....


The you'd get to the last but one and realise the you'd made a
mistake.


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On 8 Feb 2004 19:10:39 GMT, "Bob Eager" wrote:

On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 18:47:14 UTC, Pete C
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No, MicroVAXes...but the leccy bill is bad with all the PCs...


How many PCs...?


Five permanently on...others on demand, no more than 3 or 4 more at once
though.


That's not too bad, though laptops make good secondary PCs, the two
here run at 20w and 12w

cheers,
Pete.
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"Bob Eager" wrote On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 10:24:25 UTC, Andy Hall
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VAXes are one of the ultimate CISC machines, and work quite nicely; I
have two!


780s? Where do you keep them? Who pays for the electricity?


No, MicroVAXes...but the leccy bill is bad with all the PCs...


Yep. I have a VaxStation 3100 M76. Powered it up the other day and was
amazed I still remembered the command $MCR AUTHORIZE ;-)

Cheers,

Paul.
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Witchy wrote
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"Bob Eager" wrote
Andy Hall wrote:

A latecomer, eH? I started on a 780...before the 750 existed!


Well, i've worked on all the early stuff TBH, the only thing i didn't
touch was a PDP/11 or a MicroVAX 1. Had a MicroVAX 2 though !


Got a uVAX I here that I'm working on 'cos either its RD52 or RQDX1
has gone south


RD52 !! a very small scsi disk IIRC. I replaced the DEC firmware'd
disk in mine with a standard (bigger) SCSI disk. The Tagged Command
Queuing on the bus really confuses the hell out of the uVAX, but it
doesn't crash it...

Cheers,

Paul.
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I have a uVAX2. Doesn't use any more leccy than a PC, although I rarely
power it up any more.


I remember those. IIRC, they weren't bad running Unix either.


They are indestructible ! the one I managed refused to die. Does yours
have the vast capacity (!) TK50 in it ?

It lives next to my PDP11.


fx: Covers eyes and runs away quickly ... !

Cheers,

Paul.
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