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I'm getting some stick at the moment from HID, because she got new curtains for our sash windows (Scottish cottage so small pane) and there's condensation which is the probable cause of mould appearing at the foot of these curtains.

I don't want to go down the double glazed route, but what about secondary glazing ?

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On 09/10/16 22:05, Rob Graham wrote:
I'm getting some stick at the moment from HID, because she got new curtains for our sash windows (Scottish cottage so small pane) and there's condensation which is the probable cause of mould appearing at the foot of these curtains.

I don't want to go down the double glazed route, but what about secondary glazing ?

Rob

unlikely to be effective unless sashes are hermetically sealed. Advice
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On 09/10/16 22:05, Rob Graham wrote:
I'm getting some stick at the moment from HID, because she got new
curtains for our sash windows (Scottish cottage so small pane) and
there's condensation which is the probable cause of mould appearing at
the foot of these curtains.

I don't want to go down the double glazed route, but what about
secondary glazing ?


unlikely to be effective unless sashes are hermetically sealed. Advice
is to increase ventilation


Effective in which way? Helping with the condensation or helping with
draught proofing i.e. general comfort level within the room?

I ask, being in a similar position particularly at the front of the
house where we have four huge bay windows, two up and two down, all
original Victorian single glazed sash, all draughty and all subject to
condensation.

Whilst we too suffer from mould on the bottom of the curtains, it is the
cold that is the major consideration.
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On 09/10/16 22:05, Rob Graham wrote:
I'm getting some stick at the moment from HID, because she got new curtains for our sash windows (Scottish cottage so small pane) and there's condensation which is the probable cause of mould appearing at the foot of these curtains.

I don't want to go down the double glazed route, but what about secondary glazing ?

Rob

unlikely to be effective unless sashes are hermetically sealed. Advice
is to increase ventilation


If any physical measures are inconvenient to be done at the moment
then you can purchase absorbing strips at numerous places that will
absorb the pools of condensation rather than letting it actually run
on to the curtains if that is what is happening.
Eg.
http://www.wilko.com/insulation/wilk...m/invt/5641040

Obviously this is only a treatment not a cure but might indicate to
HID that you are on the case.

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Obviously this is only a treatment not a cure but might indicate to
HID that you are on the case.


Wifey bought one of these :

http://www.lakeland.co.uk/24546/The-...s-Condensation
-Squeegee

It works. Almost filled the reservoir (handle) this morning. No, it
does not help the problem, but is a straightforward way to deal with it.
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Rob Graham wrote:

sash windows (Scottish cottage so small pane) and there's condensation
what about secondary glazing ?


unlikely to be effective unless sashes are hermetically sealed. Advice
is to increase ventilation


If the sashes aren't well sealed he's already got ventilation, secondary
glazing would largely prevent the moist air coming into contact with the
coldest surface available (the glass) so it won't condense there, but
you don't want the frame to become a replacement cold surface, so avoid
aluminium.

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On Monday, 10 October 2016 07:48:34 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 09/10/16 22:05, Rob Graham wrote:


I'm getting some stick at the moment from HID, because she got new curtains for our sash windows (Scottish cottage so small pane) and there's condensation which is the probable cause of mould appearing at the foot of these curtains.

I don't want to go down the double glazed route, but what about secondary glazing ?


Did you have a specific question?

unlikely to be effective unless sashes are hermetically sealed. Advice
is to increase ventilation


I once fitted that cheap film stuff to old sliding sashes. It eliminated condensation completely, to my initial surprise.


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On Monday, 10 October 2016 07:48:34 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 09/10/16 22:05, Rob Graham wrote:


I'm getting some stick at the moment from HID, because she got new curtains for our sash windows (Scottish cottage so small pane) and there's condensation which is the probable cause of mould appearing at the foot of these curtains.

I don't want to go down the double glazed route, but what about secondary glazing ?


Did you have a specific question?

unlikely to be effective unless sashes are hermetically sealed. Advice
is to increase ventilation


I once fitted that cheap film stuff to old sliding sashes. It eliminated condensation completely, to my initial surprise.


NT


shrink to fit film , works, looks horrendous , but does work.

Improved central heating and seals on sashes worked even better and dosen`t look horrendous, cost was though.

https://www.reddiseals.com/product-c.../window-seals/

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On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 1:20:23 PM UTC+1, tabbypurr wrote:


I once fitted that cheap film stuff to old sliding sashes. It eliminated condensation completely, to my initial surprise.


shrink to fit film , works, looks horrendous , but does work.

Improved central heating and seals on sashes worked even better and dosen`t look horrendous, cost was though.

https://www.reddiseals.com/product-c.../window-seals/


It looks ok if done properly. The downsides are fragility & short lifetime.


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Rob Graham wrote:

I don't want to go down the double glazed route, but what about secondary glazing ?


You used to be able to get adhesive steel strips to stick to the
window surround, and flexible magnetic strip to stick to rigid
plastic sheet. Offer it up and it leaps into place. Not cheap,
but simple and effective.

You need to get the right plastic sheet - the cheap stuff goes
brittle after exposure to UV.

Chris
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