Bloody hilarious, i doubt he could tell you his birthdate let alone his
wifes name. Jumped up tea-boy.
Whadaya think, Dave? He started out as an unskilled worker.
Shadow chancellor in waiting? LMFAO
Dump Trident, borrow 100 billion quid after 8 years of deprivation? You must
have second thoughts, shirley?
Never mind, maybe Theresa (or Jeremy) will sort things out although I did
see their lips moving.
Statespersons?

On Tuesday, 27 September 2016 04:36:02 UTC+1, bm wrote:
Bloody hilarious, i doubt he could tell you his birthdate let alone his
wifes name. Jumped up tea-boy.
Whadaya think, Dave? He started out as an unskilled worker.
Shadow chancellor in waiting? LMFAO
Dump Trident, borrow 100 billion quid after 8 years of deprivation? You must
have second thoughts, shirley?
Never mind, maybe Theresa (or Jeremy) will sort things out although I did
see their lips moving.
Statespersons?

ALL socialists are brain dead pricks.
Remember John Prescot? The ex cabin steward?

"bm" wrote in message
b.com...
Bloody hilarious, i doubt he could tell you his birthdate let alone his
wifes name. Jumped up tea-boy.
Whadaya think, Dave? He started out as an unskilled worker.
Shadow chancellor in waiting? LMFAO
Dump Trident, borrow 100 billion quid after 8 years of deprivation? You
must have second thoughts, shirley?
Never mind, maybe Theresa (or Jeremy) will sort things out although I did
see their lips moving.
Statespersons?


I don't notice anything of the sort (though I didn't hear all of the speech)

I may not agree with his politics but I didn't hear him say anything that
will scare historical Labour voters.

If these lefties stuck just with the economic stuff, and kept away from
their nutty policies on Defence/Foreign relations ISTM that they have a
chance of winning, even if what they are promising is undeliverable.

Think about how "there will be no more Philip Greens" goes down with the
populace

If you can deliver it, it's a vote winner, is it not?

How will he deliver it, well that depends upon what he means by the Philip
Green analogy. But if he's referring to the fact that he runs his company
without living here he could easily change the non-dom rules to stop that.

Try a few of his other plans and see how "good" they sound to the average
worker, it isn't nutty at all

tim

tim... wrote:

"bm" wrote in message
b.com...
Bloody hilarious, i doubt he could tell you his birthdate let alone
his wifes name. Jumped up tea-boy.
Whadaya think, Dave? He started out as an unskilled worker.
Shadow chancellor in waiting? LMFAO
Dump Trident, borrow 100 billion quid after 8 years of deprivation?
You must have second thoughts, shirley?
Never mind, maybe Theresa (or Jeremy) will sort things out although I
did see their lips moving.
Statespersons?


I don't notice anything of the sort (though I didn't hear all of the
speech)

I may not agree with his politics but I didn't hear him say anything
that will scare historical Labour voters.

If these lefties stuck just with the economic stuff, and kept away from
their nutty policies on Defence/Foreign relations ISTM that they have a
chance of winning, even if what they are promising is undeliverable.

Think about how "there will be no more Philip Greens" goes down with the
populace

If you can deliver it, it's a vote winner, is it not?

How will he deliver it, well that depends upon what he means by the
Philip Green analogy. But if he's referring to the fact that he runs
his company without living here he could easily change the non-dom rules
to stop that.

Try a few of his other plans and see how "good" they sound to the
average worker, it isn't nutty at all

tim


I suppose it depends upon where you heard the excerpts. A sympathetic
media organisation might only reveal the more palatable bits.

"tim..." wrote in message
...

"bm" wrote in message
b.com...
Bloody hilarious, i doubt he could tell you his birthdate let alone his
wifes name. Jumped up tea-boy.
Whadaya think, Dave? He started out as an unskilled worker.
Shadow chancellor in waiting? LMFAO
Dump Trident, borrow 100 billion quid after 8 years of deprivation? You
must have second thoughts, shirley?
Never mind, maybe Theresa (or Jeremy) will sort things out although I did
see their lips moving.
Statespersons?


I don't notice anything of the sort (though I didn't hear all of the
speech)

I may not agree with his politics but I didn't hear him say anything that
will scare historical Labour voters.

If these lefties stuck just with the economic stuff, and kept away from
their nutty policies on Defence/Foreign relations ISTM that they have a
chance of winning, even if what they are promising is undeliverable.

Think about how "there will be no more Philip Greens" goes down with the
populace

If you can deliver it, it's a vote winner, is it not?

How will he deliver it, well that depends upon what he means by the Philip
Green analogy. But if he's referring to the fact that he runs his company
without living here he could easily change the non-dom rules to stop that.

Try a few of his other plans and see how "good" they sound to the average
worker, it isn't nutty at all

tim

Well, either he is nutty, you are nutty, or both.
He's good though, I didn't see any sign of a red face, it should've been
incandescent.
If he quits moving his lips he stands a small chance.

In article ,
tim... wrote:

"bm" wrote in message
b.com...
Bloody hilarious, i doubt he could tell you his birthdate let alone
his wifes name. Jumped up tea-boy. Whadaya think, Dave? He started
out as an unskilled worker. Shadow chancellor in waiting? LMFAO Dump
Trident, borrow 100 billion quid after 8 years of deprivation? You
must have second thoughts, shirley? Never mind, maybe Theresa (or
Jeremy) will sort things out although I did see their lips moving.
Statespersons?


I don't notice anything of the sort (though I didn't hear all of the
speech)

Interesting how these right wing bigots like bm ignore the achievements of
the poor. Obviously prefer those who go to Eton etc on the backs of rich
parents. Be very interesting to have details of 'bm's' education. Judging
by the above post, failed GSE English for a start.

McDonnell whose father was a bus driver did leave school without A levels,
etc, but studied for them at night school. Then attended Brunel
University, and took a Bachelor of Science degree in Government and
Politics. Next he completed his Master of Science in Politics and
Sociology at Birkbeck College, University of London. So not educated by
daddies chequebook.

I may not agree with his politics but I didn't hear him say anything
that will scare historical Labour voters.

I only saw his interview on NewsNight, where he certainly didn't say he
was in favour of abolishing Trident.

If these lefties stuck just with the economic stuff, and kept away from
their nutty policies on Defence/Foreign relations ISTM that they have a
chance of winning, even if what they are promising is undeliverable.

I'm still waiting to here just who or what Trident is protecting us from.
While allowing our conventional forces to get into the sorry state they
are. If there is a set amount for defence, what makes more sense to spend
it on?

Think about how "there will be no more Philip Greens" goes down with the
populace

If you can deliver it, it's a vote winner, is it not?

Not for the likes of the right wing. Who want the poorest possible
conditions of service for all - but them. And drool over Green's lifestyle
- regardless of who he screwed in the process.

How will he deliver it, well that depends upon what he means by the
Philip Green analogy. But if he's referring to the fact that he runs
his company without living here he could easily change the non-dom
rules to stop that.

Try a few of his other plans and see how "good" they sound to the
average worker, it isn't nutty at all

I find it amusing that the likes of May and IDS are now talking about
fairer shares for all post BEXIT, given their record on this before.

--
*A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kickboxing.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
tim... wrote:

"bm" wrote in message
b.com...
Bloody hilarious, i doubt he could tell you his birthdate let alone
his wifes name. Jumped up tea-boy. Whadaya think, Dave? He started
out as an unskilled worker. Shadow chancellor in waiting? LMFAO Dump
Trident, borrow 100 billion quid after 8 years of deprivation? You
must have second thoughts, shirley? Never mind, maybe Theresa (or
Jeremy) will sort things out although I did see their lips moving.
Statespersons?


I don't notice anything of the sort (though I didn't hear all of the
speech)

Interesting how these right wing bigots like bm ignore the achievements of
the poor. Obviously prefer those who go to Eton etc on the backs of rich
parents. Be very interesting to have details of 'bm's' education. Judging
by the above post, failed GSE English for a start.

McDonnell whose father was a bus driver did leave school without A levels,
etc, but studied for them at night school. Then attended Brunel
University, and took a Bachelor of Science degree in Government and
Politics. Next he completed his Master of Science in Politics and
Sociology at Birkbeck College, University of London. So not educated by
daddies chequebook.

I don't think I'm going to be a great fan of McDonnell, but I agree that
you can't complain about one load of politicians not living in the real
world (whatever that is), or having done a day's hard work, and then
criticise someone else for having humble beginnings.

In article ,
Chris Hogg wrote:
On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 13:42:20 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

Bachelor of Science degree in Government and
Politics. Next he completed his Master of Science in Politics and
Sociology at Birkbeck College, University of London.

Nothing to do with McDonnell as a person, a politician or his
policies, but a BSc in Government and Politics, and an MSc Politics
and Sociology? How sad, how very sad, that science degrees should be
so debased as to include Politics, Government and Sociology! No wonder
we are where we are!

I've said for many a year that the lack of status given to science and
engineering in this country is the cause of many of its problems.

--
*They call it PMS because Mad Cow Disease was already taken.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In message , Chris Hogg
writes
Nothing to do with McDonnell as a person, a politician or his policies,
but a BSc in Government and Politics, and an MSc Politics and
Sociology? How sad, how very sad, that science degrees should be so
debased as to include Politics, Government and Sociology! No wonder we
are where we are!

Ah, but are not engineering and art intimately related and concerned
with the creation of beautiful things, whereas science and politics are
really about making up new names for things we don't really understand.
--
Bill

On 27/09/16 15:37, Bill wrote:
In message , Chris Hogg
writes
Nothing to do with McDonnell as a person, a politician or his
policies, but a BSc in Government and Politics, and an MSc Politics
and Sociology? How sad, how very sad, that science degrees should be
so debased as to include Politics, Government and Sociology! No wonder
we are where we are!

Ah, but are not engineering and art intimately related and concerned
with the creation of beautiful things, whereas science and politics are
really about making up new names for things we don't really understand.

Scienmce used to be about arriving at models that worked, and politics
was about arriving at models everyone wanted to believe in enough to
get you elected.

Now of course science is about models that politicians can use to get
elected, and oligarchs can use to make obscene amounts of money out of.

And art is all about making ugly things. And engineering is about making
beautiful shiny things with no apparent purpose, but status symbols

NO Apple devices were used in the preparation of this post


--
Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have
guns, why should we let them have ideas?

Josef Stalin

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
snip

Interesting how these right wing bigots like bm ignore the achievements of
the poor. Obviously prefer those who go to Eton etc on the backs of rich
parents. Be very interesting to have details of 'bm's' education. Judging
by the above post, failed GSE English for a start.

I only have a BEng, not in English.

I'm no more right wing than you are, Dave.
At the mo it's a no-brainer, either Tories or Dummies and I can't see it
changing soon.
Actually, i've never voted Tory in ~50 years but 2020 may be different.

snip

On 27-Sep-16 1:42 PM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Interesting how these right wing bigots like bm ignore the achievements of
the poor. Obviously prefer those who go to Eton etc on the backs of rich
parents.

I went to a minor public school, and got quite a good (if hellish)
education. That, plus a lot of nights and weekends spent studying,
equipped me to win an open scholarship to Cambridge. Unfortunately, that
made me think I was God's own gift etc.

Fortunately, when I got to uni, I was paired for tutorials with another
winner of an open scholarship who had come through the state school
system. That young man was so much cleverer than me (and better
prepared, incidentally) that the tutorials were embarrassing.

It was quite a harrowing experience, but one I definitely benefited from.

Unfortunately, the very clever young man went into fusion reactor
research, and has spent his life battering his head against a brick wall
trying to solve a *really* difficult problem. So, he met his nemesis, too.

Incidentally, I had tutorials from Hermann Hauser.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
tim... wrote:

"bm" wrote in message
b.com...
Bloody hilarious, i doubt he could tell you his birthdate let alone
his wifes name. Jumped up tea-boy. Whadaya think, Dave? He started
out as an unskilled worker. Shadow chancellor in waiting? LMFAO Dump
Trident, borrow 100 billion quid after 8 years of deprivation? You
must have second thoughts, shirley? Never mind, maybe Theresa (or
Jeremy) will sort things out although I did see their lips moving.
Statespersons?


I don't notice anything of the sort (though I didn't hear all of the
speech)

Interesting how these right wing bigots like bm ignore the achievements of
the poor. Obviously prefer those who go to Eton etc on the backs of rich
parents. Be very interesting to have details of 'bm's' education. Judging
by the above post, failed GSE English for a start.

McDonnell whose father was a bus driver did leave school without A levels,
etc, but studied for them at night school. Then attended Brunel
University, and took a Bachelor of Science degree in Government and
Politics. Next he completed his Master of Science in Politics and
Sociology at Birkbeck College, University of London. So not educated by
daddies chequebook.

I may not agree with his politics but I didn't hear him say anything
that will scare historical Labour voters.

I only saw his interview on NewsNight, where he certainly didn't say he
was in favour of abolishing Trident.

If these lefties stuck just with the economic stuff, and kept away from
their nutty policies on Defence/Foreign relations ISTM that they have a
chance of winning, even if what they are promising is undeliverable.

I'm still waiting to here just who or what Trident is protecting us from.

You can say the same thing about the conventional forces.

While allowing our conventional forces to get into the sorry state they
are. If there is a set amount for defence, what makes more sense to spend
it on?

Other things like the NHS and nukes.

Think about how "there will be no more Philip Greens" goes down with the
populace

If you can deliver it, it's a vote winner, is it not?

Not for the likes of the right wing. Who want the poorest possible
conditions of service for all - but them. And drool over Green's lifestyle
- regardless of who he screwed in the process.

How will he deliver it, well that depends upon what he means by the
Philip Green analogy. But if he's referring to the fact that he runs
his company without living here he could easily change the non-dom
rules to stop that.

Try a few of his other plans and see how "good" they sound to the
average worker, it isn't nutty at all

I find it amusing that the likes of May and IDS are now talking about
fairer shares for all post BEXIT, given their record on this before.

On 9/27/2016 3:44 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:


And art is all about making ugly things. And engineering is about making
beautiful shiny things with no apparent purpose, but status symbols

Oh come on, don't you have an MA too?

In article ,
newshound wrote:
On 9/27/2016 3:44 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:


And art is all about making ugly things. And engineering is about making
beautiful shiny things with no apparent purpose, but status symbols

Oh come on, don't you have an MA too?

I do.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England

On 27/09/16 21:05, Rod Speed wrote:

Just to pick up on this:

... **** all of the voters want what that fool Corbyn wants.


Corbyn talks about equality, justice, opportunity, health care, peace,
community, compassion, investment, security, housing....
What kind of person is not interested in those things?

TW

TimW wrote
Rod Speed wrote

Just to pick up on this:

... **** all of the voters want what that fool Corbyn wants.

Corbyn talks about equality, justice, opportunity, health care,
peace, community, compassion, investment, security, housing....

And talks about renationalising everything.

What kind of person is not interested in those things?

Only a microscopic subset of the voters wants to nationalise everything.

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Huge
wrote:

On 2016-09-27, TimW wrote:
On 27/09/16 21:05, Rod Speed wrote:

Just to pick up on this:

... **** all of the voters want what that fool Corbyn wants.

Corbyn talks about equality, justice, opportunity, health care, peace,
community, compassion, investment, security, housing....
What kind of person is not interested in those things?

Jeremy Corbyn.

+1

Anyone remember Michael Dukakis, who stood against Bush Senior for US
Pres in 1988? Spoke all the right words at the right time, some of them
even in Spanish. But as Governor of Massachusetts he didn't do much.
After that election I saw on US Public TV a programme with a black
woman who had been the Socialist candidate for Pres in 1988. Apparently
she'd asked Dukakis at some earlier point why there was no adult
education programme in Massachusetts. Seems it hadn't crossed his mind
to have one. Following year there was one.

So the message for TimW is this: any fool can talk about stuff, just as
any fool can be "against" or "concerned about" things. But it takes
rather more than that to deliver the goods - and what has Corbyn
delivered in 35 years as an MP? Nothing other than 35 years of being a
backbencher, and 35 years of grandstanding at demos with a mike.

He was never in any position to deliver anything given
that he was a devotee of that fool Foot and the entire
party had been hijacked by Blair and Brown.

"charles" wrote in message
...
In article ,
newshound wrote:
On 9/27/2016 3:44 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:


And art is all about making ugly things. And engineering is about
making
beautiful shiny things with no apparent purpose, but status symbols

Oh come on, don't you have an MA too?

I do.

I trust that you'll both be very happy.
Heaven knows what Simon has, it must run to a complete punctuated sentence
if not a paragraph.

"bm" wrote in message
web.com...

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
snip

Interesting how these right wing bigots like bm ignore the achievements
of
the poor. Obviously prefer those who go to Eton etc on the backs of rich
parents. Be very interesting to have details of 'bm's' education. Judging
by the above post, failed GSE English for a start.

I only have a BEng, not in English.

I'm no more right wing than you are, Dave.
At the mo it's a no-brainer, either Tories or Dummies and I can't see it
changing soon.
Actually, i've never voted Tory in ~50 years but 2020 may be different.

snip

That's assuming that I actually make it to 72.
What's the normal lifespan of a Tory bigot?

"bm" wrote in message
web.com...

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
snip

Interesting how these right wing bigots like bm ignore the achievements
of
the poor. Obviously prefer those who go to Eton etc on the backs of rich
parents. Be very interesting to have details of 'bm's' education. Judging
by the above post, failed GSE English for a start.

I only have a BEng, not in English.

I'm no more right wing than you are, Dave.
At the mo it's a no-brainer, either Tories or Dummies and I can't see it
changing soon.
Actually, i've never voted Tory in ~50 years but 2020 may be different.

snip

OK, my latest post didn't work (as don't I, isn't retirement terrific,
pretty young things offering a seat on the bus etc?) I'll try again.

That's assuming that I actually make it to 72.
What's the normal lifespan of a Tory bigot?

On 27/09/16 22:54, Rod Speed wrote:
TimW wrote

Corbyn talks about equality, justice, opportunity, health care, peace,
community, compassion, investment, security, housing....

And talks about renationalising everything.

Actually no. And Rod there really isn't any point posting if you're just
going to make up any old **** that suits your argument.
TW

"TimW" wrote in message
...
On 27/09/16 22:54, Rod Speed wrote:
TimW wrote

Corbyn talks about equality, justice, opportunity, health care, peace,
community, compassion, investment, security, housing....

And talks about renationalising everything.

Actually no. And Rod there really isn't any point posting if you're just
going to make up any old **** that suits your argument.

O c'mon, that's what he does.
LMFAO.
Time for PHucker to interject if he can drag himself away from his parrot
crap.
Bring on the chuckle brothers, your audience awaits.

TimW wrote
Rod Speed wrote
TimW wrote

Corbyn talks about equality, justice, opportunity, health care, peace,
community, compassion, investment, security, housing....

And talks about renationalising everything.

Actually no.

Actually, yes. Have fun listing anything he doesn’t want to renationalise.

And Rod there really isn't any point posting if you're just going to make
up any old **** that suits your argument.

Nothing made up about renationalising, that's why there is no
possibility of any Labour govt with Corbyn as leader. **** all
of the voters are actually stupid enough to go for that now.

And there is no possibility of a Labour govt anyway
now that the whole of Scotland has been lost to the SNP.

If it wasn’t for Corbyn, there might be some remote possibility
of a Labour/SNP coalition govt, but with Corbyn, no chance,
for the same reason there was no chance with Foot either.
There just arent enough voters into that sort of hard left policy.

"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...
TimW wrote
Rod Speed wrote
TimW wrote

Corbyn talks about equality, justice, opportunity, health care, peace,
community, compassion, investment, security, housing....

And talks about renationalising everything.

Actually no.

Actually, yes. Have fun listing anything he doesn’t want to renationalise.

And Rod there really isn't any point posting if you're just going to make
up any old **** that suits your argument.

Nothing made up about renationalising, that's why there is no
possibility of any Labour govt with Corbyn as leader. **** all
of the voters are actually stupid enough to go for that now.

And there is no possibility of a Labour govt anyway
now that the whole of Scotland has been lost to the SNP.

If it wasn’t for Corbyn, there might be some remote possibility
of a Labour/SNP coalition govt, but with Corbyn, no chance,
for the same reason there was no chance with Foot either.
There just arent enough voters into that sort of hard left policy.

Hey Wodney, **** off to the jacuzzi FFS.

On Tuesday, 27 September 2016 13:45:15 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
tim... wrote:

"bm" wrote in message
b.com...
Bloody hilarious, i doubt he could tell you his birthdate let alone
his wifes name. Jumped up tea-boy. Whadaya think, Dave? He started
out as an unskilled worker. Shadow chancellor in waiting? LMFAO Dump
Trident, borrow 100 billion quid after 8 years of deprivation? You
must have second thoughts, shirley? Never mind, maybe Theresa (or
Jeremy) will sort things out although I did see their lips moving.
Statespersons?


I don't notice anything of the sort (though I didn't hear all of the
speech)

Interesting how these right wing bigots like bm ignore the achievements of
the poor. Obviously prefer those who go to Eton etc on the backs of rich
parents. Be very interesting to have details of 'bm's' education. Judging
by the above post, failed GSE English for a start.

McDonnell whose father was a bus driver did leave school without A levels,
etc, but studied for them at night school. Then attended Brunel
University, and took a Bachelor of Science degree in Government and
Politics. Next he completed his Master of Science in Politics and
Sociology at Birkbeck College, University of London. So not educated by
daddies chequebook.

I may not agree with his politics but I didn't hear him say anything
that will scare historical Labour voters.

I only saw his interview on NewsNight, where he certainly didn't say he
was in favour of abolishing Trident.

If these lefties stuck just with the economic stuff, and kept away from
their nutty policies on Defence/Foreign relations ISTM that they have a
chance of winning, even if what they are promising is undeliverable.

I'm still waiting to here just who or what Trident is protecting us from.
While allowing our conventional forces to get into the sorry state they
are. If there is a set amount for defence, what makes more sense to spend
it on?

Still on your usual brain dead lefty crap.

It is to DETER others with nuclear weapons from attacking us.
Neither Iraq or Ukraine would have been attacked if they had had nuclear weapons. Or Libya.

Nuclear weapons have only ever saved lives.

On Tuesday, 27 September 2016 21:54:35 UTC+1, TimW wrote:
On 27/09/16 21:05, Rod Speed wrote:

Just to pick up on this:

... **** all of the voters want what that fool Corbyn wants.


Corbyn talks about equality, justice, opportunity, health care, peace,
community, compassion, investment, security, housing....
What kind of person is not interested in those things?

TW

More undeliverable crap.
Telling the brain dead what they want to hear.

He has no clue what any of them means.

"harry" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, 27 September 2016 13:45:15 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
tim... wrote:

"bm" wrote in message
b.com...
Bloody hilarious, i doubt he could tell you his birthdate let alone
his wifes name. Jumped up tea-boy. Whadaya think, Dave? He started
out as an unskilled worker. Shadow chancellor in waiting? LMFAO Dump
Trident, borrow 100 billion quid after 8 years of deprivation? You
must have second thoughts, shirley? Never mind, maybe Theresa (or
Jeremy) will sort things out although I did see their lips moving.
Statespersons?


I don't notice anything of the sort (though I didn't hear all of the
speech)

Interesting how these right wing bigots like bm ignore the achievements
of
the poor. Obviously prefer those who go to Eton etc on the backs of rich
parents. Be very interesting to have details of 'bm's' education. Judging
by the above post, failed GSE English for a start.

McDonnell whose father was a bus driver did leave school without A
levels,
etc, but studied for them at night school. Then attended Brunel
University, and took a Bachelor of Science degree in Government and
Politics. Next he completed his Master of Science in Politics and
Sociology at Birkbeck College, University of London. So not educated by
daddies chequebook.

I may not agree with his politics but I didn't hear him say anything
that will scare historical Labour voters.

I only saw his interview on NewsNight, where he certainly didn't say he
was in favour of abolishing Trident.

If these lefties stuck just with the economic stuff, and kept away from
their nutty policies on Defence/Foreign relations ISTM that they have a
chance of winning, even if what they are promising is undeliverable.

I'm still waiting to here just who or what Trident is protecting us from.
While allowing our conventional forces to get into the sorry state they
are. If there is a set amount for defence, what makes more sense to spend
it on?

Still on your usual brain dead lefty crap.

It is to DETER others with nuclear weapons from attacking us.

And just who do you claim that is ? The frogs, or the russians ?

Neither Iraq or Ukraine would have been attacked
if they had had nuclear weapons. Or Libya.

Irrelevant to whether anyone is going to attack Britain.

Nuclear weapons have only ever saved lives.

Sure, but Britain doesnt need to have its own.

On 27/09/16 21:54, TimW wrote:
On 27/09/16 21:05, Rod Speed wrote:

Just to pick up on this:

... **** all of the voters want what that fool Corbyn wants.


Corbyn talks about equality, justice, opportunity, health care, peace,
community, compassion, investment, security, housing....
What kind of person is not interested in those things?


Oh we are interested all right.

But intelligent enough to understand that money talks and bull**** walks.

Corbyn is just another in a long line of cat-bellers.


Any idiot can stick a red rosette on and tell everybody how seriously he
takes the issues that are dear to their hearts.

And then spend the next 15 years in power achieving nothing of any value.

TW


--
"I am inclined to tell the truth and dislike people who lie consistently.
This makes me unfit for the company of people of a Left persuasion, and
all women"

On 27/09/16 21:32, charles wrote:
In article ,
newshound wrote:
On 9/27/2016 3:44 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:


And art is all about making ugly things. And engineering is about making
beautiful shiny things with no apparent purpose, but status symbols

Oh come on, don't you have an MA too?

I do.

me too

So what?



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Those who want slavery should have the grace to name it by its proper
name. They must face the full meaning of that which they are advocating
or condoning; the full, exact, specific meaning of collectivism, of its
logical implications, of the principles upon which it is based, and of
the ultimate consequences to which these principles will lead. They must
face it, then decide whether this is what they want or not.

Ayn Rand.

On 27/09/16 22:24, Huge wrote:
On 2016-09-27, TimW wrote:
On 27/09/16 21:05, Rod Speed wrote:

Just to pick up on this:

... **** all of the voters want what that fool Corbyn wants.


Corbyn talks about equality, justice, opportunity, health care, peace,
community, compassion, investment, security, housing....
What kind of person is not interested in those things?

Jeremy Corbyn.


Ah. I see what you did there. Well of coutse he has most of that already.


--
Those who want slavery should have the grace to name it by its proper
name. They must face the full meaning of that which they are advocating
or condoning; the full, exact, specific meaning of collectivism, of its
logical implications, of the principles upon which it is based, and of
the ultimate consequences to which these principles will lead. They must
face it, then decide whether this is what they want or not.

Ayn Rand.

En el artículo . com,
bm escribió:

Hey Wodney, **** off to the jacuzzi FFS.

Australian jacuzzi: fart in the bath.

And this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-37481251

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(='.'=) Bunny says: Windows 10? Nein danke!
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On 28/09/16 09:24, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
[...]

Corbyn is just another in a long line of cat-bellers.

[...]

A 'cat-beller'??

Now that I am interested in. Do, please, explain. Is that Brum? or
Northants?

Tim W

En el artículo , Mike Tomlinson
escribió:

And this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-37481251

And this:

https://www.theguardian.com/australi...uth-australia-
braces-for-storm-that-could-be-most-severe-in-50-years

"South Australia was weathering a statewide blackout on Wednesday night
after one of the most extreme weather systems in decades cut power to
the entire state"

A mate is in Adelaide right now. No power, warm beer, roads at
gridlock, chaos, no idea when power will return. And he's due in
Melbourne for a wedding.

Notable that the power outage is a direct result of "green" energy.

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(='.'=) Bunny says: Windows 10? Nein danke!
(")_(")

En el artículo . com,
bm escribió:

What's the normal lifespan of a Tory bigot?

Depends how many rent boys they shag on the q.t.

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(='.'=) Bunny says: Windows 10? Nein danke!
(")_(")

En el artículo , GB
escribió:

Incidentally, I had tutorials from Hermann Hauser.

Was the weak tea scenario in Micro Men accurate, then?

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"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message
...
En el artículo . com,
bm escribió:

Hey Wodney, **** off to the jacuzzi FFS.

Australian jacuzzi: fart in the bath.

And this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-37481251

"for a second time."
That takes practice.

On 28/09/16 12:12, TimW wrote:
On 28/09/16 09:24, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
[...]

Corbyn is just another in a long line of cat-bellers.

[...]

A 'cat-beller'??

Now that I am interested in. Do, please, explain. Is that Brum? or
Northants?

Mediaeval

Google 'Belling the cat'

Tim W


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"When one man dies it's a tragedy. When thousands die it's statistics."

Josef Stalin

On Tuesday, 27 September 2016 21:54:35 UTC+1, TimW wrote:
On 27/09/16 21:05, Rod Speed wrote:

Just to pick up on this:

... **** all of the voters want what that fool Corbyn wants.


Corbyn talks about equality, justice, opportunity, health care, peace,
community, compassion, investment, security, housing....
What kind of person is not interested in those things?

TW

Everyone that's the problem, who's intrested in teh lastest mobile or watch,
see the problem is the more things you have that are wanted the more likely you are to have it taken from you.
Other than religion this is where most wars start.

On 28/09/16 12:36, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 12:12:01 +0100, TimW wrote:

On 28/09/16 09:24, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
[...]

Corbyn is just another in a long line of cat-bellers.

[...]

A 'cat-beller'??

Now that I am interested in. Do, please, explain. Is that Brum? or
Northants?

Tim W

It describes the process of advancing extremely desirable solutions to
problems without any thought as to whether those solutions are
practical. A favourite and much-used technique of the greens.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belling_the_cat

wonderful. I don't think I had ever heard that.
TW